Re: [MBZ] crankcase oil
Christopher McCann wrote: Don't have the link for the new list http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/biodiesel_striplin.net
[MBZ] 603 .971 engine base
In May 2004, I purchased a 603.971 ( a 603.970 rebuilt) engine from Mercedes at a cost of $ 5,745 delivered to my warehouse. Part No. 603-010 -30-02-88 It works very well, the oil consumption is now 1 liter in 4,200 miles (thats when the low light goes on-so I fill it with one liter which brings it up the the midpoint between min and max). The fuel consumption is also improving. I now get 450 miles per tankful. Every other tankful I note an improvement. I am convinced that this purchase was very cost effective. I also had a very substantial amount of support from the good listmembers. Much of this is at www.scaffolding.com/mb Constantine
Re: [MBZ] why do I have to pour gas down my carbs to get my 250 to start?
yep, will give that a try. Kevin wrote: On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:50:07PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Got a 69 250 and have not messed with it too much since I have had it. Used to start it very once in a while and it would usually fire right up. Then it got to where you had to pump the hell out of the pedal then crank it and it would start. Now you have to pour a little gas down the carbs a couple of times then it will start and run. Shut if off and try to restart right away and no start. Dont know a thing about carbs but anybody have any idea what the problem could be? Need to see about a procedure for going thru and setting the carbs up correct. For all I know they might need to be rebuilt. Sound all gummed up to me, and like everyone else said, you probably have old gas in the tank which isn't making anything any better. Provided there aren't soft parts inside the carb, and provided you have dealt with the stale gas issue, blasting the snot out of both carbs with carb cleaner will likely solve the problem. DO NOT DO THIS IF PARTS OF THE CARB AREN'T FRIENDLY WITH CARB CLEANER, like a variable venturi ford, and don't ask how I know that (at least it wasn't me or my car, I was just making sure the beer didn't get warm). The fact that it will continue to run after gas was poured down it rules out a fuel pump, the engine would die immediately after running the carb dry if it was the fuel pump. The problem is either the carbs themselves being dirty, or bad fuel. K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] trans leak
You have to look as see what area looks really clean compared to the others. On my SDL, the B2 piston cover was leaking and the area below it and above the pan was really clean. Check for things like that. Luther Gulseth wrote: my '83 SD has been eating trans fluidseems to be about 1/2 pint every 1000 miles, maybe more, I'm not sure. WHare are the possible locations for the leak? My pan gasket looks clean so I'm clueless about where to look now. Are there common leak points on these trans? TIA all, -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] crankcase oil
click the unsubscribe link at the bottom, then scroll down to the link that says overview of all lists. Will be listed there. Christopher McCann wrote: Gabriel, Don't have the link for the new list Don't know of ANYONE who has attempted a 50/50 diesel petro oil mix...uncharted waters I would NOT use crankcase oil that was not filtered down to 5 microns I would start out with far less than 50/50 Marshall mentioned that synthetics oils, when added to fuel in small quantities (quart to tank) do not have the same tonic effect that mineral oils have... Christopher --- Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: first of all, what is the name of the to SVO list? Can I run my old M1 15w 50 staight from crankcase to fuel tank of im doing a 50/50 mix? -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] trans leak
Leaking cooler lines (drip up front), leaking front pump seal (drip off the bell housing front edge), servo leak (drips off the side) or overfilled and running out the vent (also down one side, but obviously from the top of the tranny). Most likely front seal or cooler lines. I would also check the vacuum modulator line, they have been known to leak and cause fluid to be pulled into the vac pump -- this will cause serious deterioration of the vac line rubber connectors and fill the crankcase with tranny fluid -- have you been making engine oil? Peter
Re: [MBZ] crankcase oil
The main problems with burning engine oil have to do with excessive residue (oil ash) collecting on the pistons and particulate material damaging the injection pump. Recycle the oil, it can be re-refined into usable motor oil and burn diesel fuel. Peter
Re: [MBZ] why do I have to pour gas down my carbs to get my 250 to start?
REALLY old gasoline consists of residual dye (gas is actually clear -- remember white gas for Coleman stoves?), detergent, and the heavy ends (diesel fuel). Badly evaporated enough, and it won't even light with a match! Needless to say, it won't burn worth diddly, nor will the engine start without some help. It also reacts with brass to make oxidized slops and can even (although I've only seen it lately in very old engines) varnish -- sheets of clean, plastic like stuff that looks for all the world just like the skin off the varnish in a old can. Try draining out the old fuel (or filling up with fresh) and see if that helps. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who paid for Al's flight? And what did he put on it? I haven't heard anything about that. Please tell me more. There's not much coverage. He apparently declined to talk to the press about it, because he didn't want to politicize it. Here's one brief article: http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_72002.asp Al Gore Paid For Refugees' Flight To Chattanooga posted September 6, 2005 The refugees who were flown from New Orleans to Chattanooga on Sunday had a well-known person along. Former Vice President Al Gore and his son were on the chartered flight. I understand that Vice President Gore paid for everything, Todd Womack of the mayor's office said. Sheriff John Cupp said he spoke briefly with Mr. Gore. He said, He was not visiting with the media. He was busy working to help the refugees. Sheriff Cupp said it was an American Airlines plane, and he said a number of American Airlines attendants were along to help. There's a few more details here, though from a less official source: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/5/183618/3893
Re: [MBZ] hard to start cold
Peter, where does one find a CO meter? I've heard of some motorcycle forums using an 02 sensor to dial in the carbs. Will that work? any details on how to set it up? Mike, I noticed it's not temp dependant. Happend again after work. Temp was in the upper 90's. Fired right up when I remove the air filter. I cleaned the air filter with compressed air over the weekend. Wasn't too dirty. Any chance I could be running to rich? Thanks -- Original message -- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Typically the chokes should be closed at 70 F. They must close completely, but unload at full throttle part way open (so you can keep it from flooding). Check fast idle cam (this won't affect starting, but will cause it to stall til it warms up from too low idle), chokes (both carbs), mixture (too lean and it won't start, set with a CO meter) and carb balance. Also verify that you have proper accelerator pump delivery -- if they aren't working right, it will be hard to start. Dead gas must be drained or driven out, too Verify that you have equal vaccum on both carbs and that the valves are adjusted correctly. One of the best things about fuel injection is that you avoid the vast majority of the cold start problems carbs give you. Peter On Tuesday, September 6, 2005, at 10:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This morning I attempted to start my car cold, about 75' this morning and I had a miserable time. I eventualy got tired of trying to crank it, took off the air filter , opened the choke to disable the fast idle and she was able to start ok-ish. Stalled until she hit about 180 on the gauge. I think the choke housing is on too tight and making it run too rich. Over the past few weeks I have not had any problem firing it up in the upper 90's - 100's in the afternoon without the filter on. Now with the filter and the colder temp is when the problem occurs. She is running the the vacuum line on advance if that makes any difference. How tight should the choke be at that temp? should it be closed all the way(2.4 mm openening) 72 250 M130 W114 George ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] hard to start cold
CO meters are getting hard to find, and yes, an O2 sensor will work just as well -- I believe there are kits that use them. Must be installed in the exhaust, of course, so you need to find someone to weld the fitting on. Check around, you can probably find an auto shop that still has a CO meter sitting around. They turn up on eBay all the time, but $600 plus shipping 100lbs (for the shop style) is beyond my means -- I have my friend use his. It's quite possible you are running too rich -- pull a couple plugs and see what color they are. Black = too rich, dark brown is marginal, brown to greyish brown is right, white is too lean. Get a new air filter, too Peter
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
OK, but she can buy all the shoes she wants until they declare the money is headed this way. Made it sound as if the folks were beating down the door even before the last rain drop fell On Tuesday, September 6, 2005, at 04:12 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: redghost wrote: WTF is Condi even getting involved in a DOMESTIC issue? With all the countries offering aid, it's her job to coordinate with them. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Steering Vibration
Thanks for that information, Dave and Marshall. I replaced the steering damper and that made a tremendous improvement. The old steering damper can produce about the same amount of resistance as the new one. But the old damper has about 1/2 of very loose play before that resistance starts. And I always thought that damper didn't do much.. Still seems like I probably have at least one, and probably more, out of round tires. I'll deal with those tires, next. Ned Kleinhenz 95 E300D x2
Re: [MBZ] a secret message for Chuck Landenberger
Only going to vote for people on the List, that means Chuck On Tuesday, September 6, 2005, at 04:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So what favor will you do for me if I vote for you? :) -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] crankcase oil
Gabriel S. wrote: Can I run my old M1 15w 50 staight from crankcase to fuel tank of im doing a 50/50 mix? A continuous diet of #2 diesel and engine oil mix (even at 1 or 2%) WILL cause injector coking and injector maintenance requirements will substantially increase. The engine is NOT optimized for that mix. Mobil 1 does NOT burn well in Mercedes diesels (conventional oil burns better) but I'm NOT sure why. It MAY be that it burns slower so isn't completely burned without modifying the engine. An occasional shot of dino engine oil in a 1-2% mix CAN act as a tonic (although it will cause mild coking but that will be quickly dispelled once the oil is gone and the engine is driven at highway speeds), but the oil fuel mix should NOT be repeated more than every 10-20 tankfuls. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] OT: finding hydraulic fluid
A farm store will have it - all those tractor accessories need it. On 9/6/05, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to find it at a NAPA or Pep Boys. My local Canadian Tire carries hyraulic oil exactly as you're looking for. Check aroundshould be easy to find! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
[MBZ] Idle curiousity about the CHMSL
My '83 300D Turbo has a CHMSL, also known as a 3rd brake light. It looks kind of tacked on and generally un-German, to me. Was this something someone added at a later date, or were they coming with them already in '83? The wiring is tapped off the left brake lamp.
Re: [MBZ] Idle curiousity about the CHMSL
David Brodbeck wrote: My '83 300D Turbo has a CHMSL, also known as a 3rd brake light. It looks kind of tacked on and generally un-German, to me. Was this something someone added at a later date, or were they coming with them already in '83? The wiring is tapped off the left brake lamp. I do NOT believe the 3rd brake lite was required before 1986! The 123 chassis car was not equipped with a 3rd brake lite from the factory. Not sure if the factory ever supplied retrofit kits. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers
You do to have 115 body parts.you just have to come get them.DUH! On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:57:43 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I dont have any early 115 body parts. Plenty of later ones though. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8693 By Ben Stein Published 9/2/2005 11:59:59 PM A few truths, for those who have ears and eyes and care to know the truth: 1.) The hurricane that hit New Orleans and Mississippi and Alabama was an astonishing tragedy. The suffering and loss of life and peace of mind of the residents of those areas is acutely horrifying. 2.) George Bush did not cause the hurricane. Hurricanes have been happening for eons. George Bush did not create them or unleash this one. 3.) George Bush did not make this one worse than others. There have been far worse hurricanes than this before George Bush was born. 4.) There is no overwhelming evidence that global warming exists as a man-made phenomenon. There is no clear-cut evidence that global warming even exists. There is no clear evidence that if it does exist it makes hurricanes more powerful or makes them aim at cities with large numbers of poor people. 5.) If global warming is a real phenomenon, which it may well be, it started long before George Bush was inaugurated, and would not have been affected at all by the Kyoto treaty, considering that Kyoto does not cover the world's worst polluters -- China, India, and Brazil. In a word, George Bush had zero to do with causing this hurricane. To speculate otherwise is belief in sorcery. 6.) George Bush had nothing to do with the hurricane contingency plans for New Orleans. Those are drawn up by New Orleans and Louisiana. In any event, the plans were perfectly good: mandatory evacuation. It is in no way at all George Bush's fault that about 20 percent of New Orleans neglected to follow the plan. It is not his fault that many persons in New Orleans were too confused to realize how dangerous the hurricane would be. They were certainly warned. It's not George Bush's fault that there were sick people and old people and people without cars in New Orleans. His job description does not include making sure every adult in America has a car, is in good health, has good sense, and is mobile. 7.) George Bush did not cause gangsters to shoot at rescue helicopters taking people from rooftops, did not make gang bangers rape young girls in the Superdome, did not make looters steal hundreds of weapons, in short make New Orleans into a living hell. 8.) George Bush is the least racist President in mind and soul there has ever been and this is shown in his appointments over and over. To say otherwise is scandalously untrue. 9.) George Bush is rushing every bit of help he can to New Orleans and Mississippi and Alabama as soon as he can. He is not a magician. It takes time to organize huge convoys of food and now they are starting to arrive. That they get in at all considering the lawlessness of the city is a miracle of bravery and organization. 10.) There is not the slightest evidence at all that the war in Iraq has diminished the response of the government to the emergency. To say otherwise is pure slander. 11.) If the energy the news media puts into blaming Bush for an Act of God worsened by stupendous incompetence by the New Orleans city authorities and the malevolence of the criminals of the city were directed to helping the morale of the nation, we would all be a lot better off. 12.) New Orleans is a great city with many great people. It will recover and be greater than ever. Sticking pins into an effigy of George Bush that does not resemble him in the slightest will not speed the process by one day. 13.) The entire episode is a dramatic lesson in the breathtaking callousness of government officials at the ground level. Imagine if Hillary Clinton had gotten her way and they were in charge of your health care. God bless all of those dear people who are suffering so much, and God bless those helping them, starting with George Bush. UPDATE: Sunday, Sept. 4, 2005, 2:13 p.m.: More Mysteries of Katrina: Why is it that the snipers who shot at emergency rescuers trying to save people in hospitals and shelters are never mentioned except in passing, and Mr. Bush, who is turning over heaven and earth to rescue the victims of the storm, is endlessly vilified? What church does Rev. Al Sharpton belong to that believes in passing blame and singling out people by race for opprobrium and hate? What special abilities does the media have for deciding how much blame goes to the federal government as opposed to the city government of New Orleans for the aftereffects of Katrina? If able-bodied people refuse to obey a mandatory evacuation order for a city, have they not assumed the risk that ill effects will happen to them? When the city government simply ignores its own sick and hospitalized and elderly people in its evacuation order, is Mr. Bush to blame for that? Is there any problem in the
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:57 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 050905 2.898 2.900 2.977 2.993 2.853 2.843 2.833 2.976 3.149 3.250 050829 2.590 2.564 2.649 2.654 2.518 2.532 2.508 2.726 2.920 3.045 050822 2.588 2.564 2.642 2.654 2.519 2.540 2.512 2.679 2.897 3.037 050815 2.567 2.544 2.618 2.633 2.499 2.524 2.481 2.615 2.891 3.042 050808 2.407 2.386 2.492 2.484 2.334 2.336 2.323 2.486 2.801 2.943 050801 2.348 2.356 2.488 2.465 2.297 2.292 2.279 2.421 2.594 2.657 050725 2.342 2.365 2.508 2.481 2.303 2.292 2.278 2.405 2.530 2.578 050718 2.392 2.412 2.535 2.521 2.354 2.361 2.331 2.430 2.530 2.589 050711 2.408 2.427 2.533 2.524 2.377 2.384 2.355 2.408 2.526 2.589 050704 2.348 2.370 2.485 2.475 2.315 2.328 2.290 2.328 2.467 2.554 050627 2.336 2.368 2.476 2.461 2.318 2.314 2.288 2.288 2.433 2.522 050620 2.313 2.348 2.442 2.451 2.296 2.294 2.274 2.236 2.391 2.476 050613 2.276 2.308 2.399 2.399 2.261 2.248 2.247 2.210 2.364 2.457 050606 2.234 2.263 2.353 2.343 2.221 2.198 2.213 2.191 2.339 2.421 050530 2.160 2.188 2.320 2.284 2.134 2.111 2.117 2.179 2.317 2.367 050523 2.156 2.181 2.338 2.292 2.119 2.097 2.112 2.207 2.339 2.373 050516 2.189 2.204 2.380 2.315 2.141 2.129 2.141 2.267 2.397 2.432 050509 2.227 2.237 2.389 2.342 2.179 2.157 2.173 2.318 2.481 2.518 050502 2.262 2.264 2.410 2.366 2.207 2.194 2.209 2.355 2.530 2.561 050425 2.289 2.287 2.413 2.382 2.234 2.230 2.231 2.371 2.549 2.570 050418 2.259 2.260 2.418 2.373 2.197 2.194 2.180 2.379 2.554 2.582 050411 2.316 2.306 2.434 2.423 2.244 2.263 2.251 2.399 2.585 2.625 050404 2.303 2.299 2.427 2.412 2.238 2.258 2.240 2.361 2.541 2.581 050328 2.249 2.248 2.374 2.360 2.189 2.203 2.182 2.326 2.483 2.512 050321 2.244 2.245 2.355 2.358 2.186 2.196 2.180 2.313 2.471 2.482 050314 2.194 2.197 2.320 2.309 2.137 2.140 2.130 2.260 2.442 2.418 050307 2.168 2.163 2.288 2.280 2.102 2.113 2.100 2.229 2.450 2.408 050228 2.118 2.117 2.241 2.233 2.056 2.064 2.035 2.174 2.412 2.376 050221 2.020 2.027 2.198 2.154 1.957 1.953 1.943 2.087 2.321 2.259 050214 1.986 2.013 2.197 2.150 1.938 1.935 1.915 2.011 2.190 2.196 050207 1.983 2.025 2.222 2.159 1.950 1.938 1.938 1.967 2.113 2.144 050131 1.992 2.048 2.225 2.172 1.979 1.954 1.940 1.946 2.085 2.126 050124 1.959 2.014 2.180 2.140 1.945 1.928 1.919 1.884 2.027 2.068 050117 1.952 2.009 2.168 2.127 1.944 1.928 1.908 1.877 2.001 2.023 050110 1.934 1.999 2.163 2.133 1.926 1.911 1.876 1.877 1.973 2.014 050103 1.957 2.025 2.180 2.163 1.952 1.929 1.887 1.934 2.011 2.063 041227 1.987 2.045 2.196 2.161 1.982 1.959 1.928 1.961 2.040 2.097 041220 1.984 2.052 2.199 2.171 1.988 1.944 1.922 1.988 2.047 2.087 041213 1.997 2.063 2.206 2.184 1.998 1.953 1.910 2.049 2.097 2.138 041206 2.069 2.111 2.234 2.220 2.053 2.033 1.995 2.124 2.181 2.225 041129 2.116 2.141 2.258 2.252 2.082 2.086 2.053 2.171 2.233 2.287 041122 2.116 2.143 2.258 2.251 2.086 2.083 2.048 2.170 2.242 2.299 041115 2.132
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 13.) The entire episode is a dramatic lesson in the breathtaking callousness of government officials at the ground level. Imagine if Hillary Clinton had gotten her way and they were in charge of your health care. Pardon me, while I go throw up. mac
Re: [MBZ] W124 sunroof kaput
I would like to hear that story, I'm trying to decide what to do with my sunroof as well. On 9/6/05, Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go ahead Marshall, you tell him.. ...Kevin Dave M. wrote: Hi all, I just had a sickening experience... hearing unnatural noises when trying to open my sunroof (down back) from a popped-up state. Something is broken but I can't tell what exactly. There's a bar that goes across the width, on the rear of the opening... the left side moves back, the right side stays put. Right now it's stuck/jammed in the popped-up state, which I guess is better than wide open, but still doesn't make the car useful in wet weather. Fiddling with it, I can get the left side to lower partially but not the right. Anyone have tips on how to get it closed without screwing things up worse? At the moment I'd be content with getting it shut and then disconnecting the motor. I know the general wisdom is to NOT attempt a DIY repair, and take it directly to a shop that knows how to fix this type of sunroof (very different than the simple, old W123 style). I'm probably going to end up doing that but not right away, if possible. I looked up the prices for some of the parts, and if it needs a new frame (eek), cost of everything will be $1000 *wholesale* - plus labor!!! (The old frame was superceded to a new style, which requires a half-dozen extra updated items, hence the higher cost.) BTW - this is on my 87 300D. The updated sunroofs started, I think, in late 1987 model year. Hmm... maybe I could rape the sunroof mechanism from my parts car! Anyone attemped a DIY repair on these and lived to tell the story? :-( ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
Craig McCluskey wrote: http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8693 By Ben Stein snip Ben Stein does a great job inventing a bunch of straw men, then arguing against them. I can see why Tricky Dick hired him as a speech writer.
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 13.) The entire episode is a dramatic lesson in the breathtaking callousness of government officials at the ground level. Imagine if Hillary Clinton had gotten her way and they were in charge of your health care. Pardon me, while I go throw up. When you're done, you can consider that your health care is actually in the hands of insurance company bureaucrats, who are accountable only to shareholders, and are required by their responsibility to them to be breathtakingly callous.
Re: [MBZ] Idle curiousity about the CHMSL
Marshall Booth wrote: I do NOT believe the 3rd brake lite was required before 1986! The 123 chassis car was not equipped with a 3rd brake lite from the factory. Not sure if the factory ever supplied retrofit kits. Thanks. I was just curious. It has a sort of flimsy, J.C. Whitney, aftermarket look to it. It needs a new bulb; I'll probably fix it, just because I do think CHMSLs are a good idea.
Re: [MBZ] a secret message for Chuck Landenberger/MBCA Vote.
In a message dated 9/6/2005 4:45:39 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what favor will you do for me if I vote for you? :) -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK Kaleb, and all, Chuck is en route to the Mercedes Rally back east and may not check in for a day or two. For those that are wondering, Chuck is one of six running for Director at Large in the Mercedes Club. Every vote counts, even yours, if you are a current member of MBCA. My ballot arrived today, watch for yours! It occurs to me that if we want Chuck to win, we SHOULD NOT vote for the allowable 4 candidates as that will dilute Chuck's results. Just put one mark in the DAL section, that being Chuck Landenberger. Thanks Kaleb, for the opening. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Idle curiousity about the CHMSL
I'd fix it -- my coupe was rear-ended during the afternoon rush a couple years ago. Maybe a brake light at eye level might have averted it. Then again, who knows. Russ Maki Ixonia, Wis. David Brodbeck wrote: Thanks. I was just curious. It has a sort of flimsy, J.C. Whitney, aftermarket look to it. It needs a new bulb; I'll probably fix it, just because I do think CHMSLs are a good idea. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm
Re: [MBZ] Idle curiousity about the CHMSL
Russ Maki wrote: I'd fix it -- my coupe was rear-ended during the afternoon rush a couple years ago. Maybe a brake light at eye level might have averted it. Then again, who knows. Yeah, with the sudden freeway backups that happen around here, I think I need to give people behind me as many chances as possible to see me.
[MBZ] SD Glow Plug Light Blinking
The dash light for the glow plug in my 1980 SD blinks for 15-30 seconds after the car starts. I don't know when it started doing this, since the car is now being driven by my son. Does not seem to have any effect on the car, but I'm wondering if it's some kind of code. Anyone know? TIA
Re: [MBZ] trans leak
Check the lines to/from the transmission cooler. Check the vacuum modulator line to see if there is transmission fluid in it. If there is, the modulator may have failed. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:48 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] trans leak my '83 SD has been eating trans fluidseems to be about 1/2 pint every 1000 miles, maybe more, I'm not sure. WHare are the possible locations for the leak? My pan gasket looks clean so I'm clueless about where to look now. Are there common leak points on these trans? TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W124 sunroof kaput
I have no story to tell because I heeded the advice of the wise. It's just that from time to time, across the 3 mercedes diesel lists that I've been on for these last many years, every time someone asks my W124 sunroof isn't straight/doesn't close/needs adjustment/needs work Marshall chimes in with I know of too many people that attempted repair only to humbly take the parts in a basket to the dealer for proper repair. (Apologies Marshall, but I gave you your lead in and you didn't take it..) ...Kevin Gabriel S. said: I would like to hear that story, I'm trying to decide what to do with my sunroof as well. On 9/6/05, Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go ahead Marshall, you tell him.. ...Kevin Dave M. wrote: Hi all, I just had a sickening experience... hearing unnatural noises when trying to open my sunroof (down back) from a popped-up state. Something is broken but I can't tell what exactly. There's a bar that goes across the width, on the rear of the opening... the left side moves back, the right side stays put. Right now it's stuck/jammed in the popped-up state, which I guess is better than wide open, but still doesn't make the car useful in wet weather. Fiddling with it, I can get the left side to lower partially but not the right. Anyone have tips on how to get it closed without screwing things up worse? At the moment I'd be content with getting it shut and then disconnecting the motor. I know the general wisdom is to NOT attempt a DIY repair, and take it directly to a shop that knows how to fix this type of sunroof (very different than the simple, old W123 style). I'm probably going to end up doing that but not right away, if possible. I looked up the prices for some of the parts, and if it needs a new frame (eek), cost of everything will be $1000 *wholesale* - plus labor!!! (The old frame was superceded to a new style, which requires a half-dozen extra updated items, hence the higher cost.) BTW - this is on my 87 300D. The updated sunroofs started, I think, in late 1987 model year. Hmm... maybe I could rape the sunroof mechanism from my parts car! Anyone attemped a DIY repair on these and lived to tell the story? :-( ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] crankcase oil
Reading a second bio of Dr. Diesel right now (fascinating). His plan for the get go was to create an engine that would burn locally available fuels. To accomplish this, he would redesign the IP's and injectors to handle different fuels. So it is true that he ran engines on lard, animal fats, crude oil, etc, but the injection systems were always modified. SO, although it is true that a DIESEL ENGINE will burn about anything, the rub is getting the fuel IN the engine successfully over long periods of time. This may be why Elsbett (www.elsbett.de) makes a diesel engine SPECIFICALLY for veg oil. I have definitely been rethinking some of MY test fuel ideas in light of Doktor Diesel's (Rudolf, not Marshall - well, hell, Marshall too) original intent and method. My 2 cents. --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: Can I run my old M1 15w 50 staight from crankcase to fuel tank of im doing a 50/50 mix? A continuous diet of #2 diesel and engine oil mix (even at 1 or 2%) WILL cause injector coking and injector maintenance requirements will substantially increase. The engine is NOT optimized for that mix. Mobil 1 does NOT burn well in Mercedes diesels (conventional oil burns better) but I'm NOT sure why. It MAY be that it burns slower so isn't completely burned without modifying the engine. An occasional shot of dino engine oil in a 1-2% mix CAN act as a tonic (although it will cause mild coking but that will be quickly dispelled once the oil is gone and the engine is driven at highway speeds), but the oil fuel mix should NOT be repeated more than every 10-20 tankfuls. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] crankcase oil
particulate matter can be removed with a centrifugal pump. Ash is another matter. CM --- Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main problems with burning engine oil have to do with excessive residue (oil ash) collecting on the pistons and particulate material damaging the injection pump. Recycle the oil, it can be re-refined into usable motor oil and burn diesel fuel. Peter ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/
Re: [MBZ] a secret message for Chuck Landenberger/MBCA Vote.
Chuck is one of eleven running for four positions. Yes, as Jim says, please vote for the candidate(s) of your choice. Len -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] a secret message for Chuck Landenberger/MBCA Vote. In a message dated 9/6/2005 4:45:39 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what favor will you do for me if I vote for you? :) -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK Kaleb, and all, Chuck is en route to the Mercedes Rally back east and may not check in for a day or two. For those that are wondering, Chuck is one of six running for Director at Large in the Mercedes Club. Every vote counts, even yours, if you are a current member of MBCA. My ballot arrived today, watch for yours! It occurs to me that if we want Chuck to win, we SHOULD NOT vote for the allowable 4 candidates as that will dilute Chuck's results. Just put one mark in the DAL section, that being Chuck Landenberger. Thanks Kaleb, for the opening. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
Re: [MBZ] crankcase oil
no coffee yet - centrifugal FILTER - EXTREMELY efective. CM --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: particulate matter can be removed with a centrifugal pump. Ash is another matter. CM Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] W124 sunroof kaput
Gabriel, Mine went about two years ago, same symptoms. Fixed it myself, but the parts aren't inexpensive. Look at the sunroof RR procedure in the manual, it'll get you far enough into removal so you can see what's wrong, and how to remove the sunroof. ( This involves popping the sunroof headliner loose at the front with a flat bladed object, and sliding it forward til it's free). IIRC, the failed parts appear to be approximately $5 worth of plastic, namely an item that serves as a ramp for the pop-up feature (probably the angle bracket, although I don't have the parts catalog. You should buy and install both sides at the same time, as you don't want to do this job twice. I think I wound up with a parts cost of $300-$400, from EMB in Fairfax, VA, at good prices. The only problem I had was that one of the parts came fully dressed, i.e., with piece parts attached, and I had ordered the piece parts as well, due to the uncertainty caused by the part number/nomenclature changes associated with the new design. I found I was able to work around the special tool requirement (I believe a screw and wedges served the function), but I also scribed the position of every adjustment bolt to aid in its reassembly/adjustment. Exclusive of awaiting parts time, this repair consumed the better part of an entire day (once you've removed the headliner, you should be able to figure out how to lower the roof-I remember removing the roof panel, removing the broken brackets, then re-inserting the roof panel, shimming at the front sides to match the outside contour, and taping it shut for about a week til I ordered parts). Maybe I'll get it done it in 1/2 the time when my 300 sdl sunroof goes. Maybe not, judging by how little I can recall now! Mike Boerner 87 300sdl, 87 300d, 01 320ml
Re: [MBZ] crankcase oil
Old Fiat and Renault engines (the little ones) had centrifugal oil filters mounted to the end of the crank. They always had a lot of compacted sludge collected! On 9/7/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no coffee yet - centrifugal FILTER - EXTREMELY efective. CM -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] crankcase oil
exactly, you clean that out rather than change filters. Not an expert on it, but I bet they are better than conventional filters. CM --- OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Old Fiat and Renault engines (the little ones) had centrifugal oil filters mounted to the end of the crank. They always had a lot of compacted sludge collected! On 9/7/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no coffee yet - centrifugal FILTER - EXTREMELY efective. CM -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] 85 300SD Brake Job
Hello all, I'm getting ready to do a brake job on all four wheels of my Mercedes. What parts can I expect to replace? I haven't been into it before. Thanks Mike Piles
[MBZ] W123 Ignition Switch Mechanism
Hello All, I can't recall if it is the W123's or later or all of the Benz's that have the problem with the ignition switch seizing up and having to be drilled out. Mine is acting a little temperamental. Thanks, Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 84kmi
Re: [MBZ] a secret message for Chuck Landenberger/MBCA Vote.
There are eight Directors at Large on the MBCA board. Four are elected each year for two year terms. The top four vote getters are elected. You get to vote for four because you are electing four people. If you live in the Central Region, i.e. KY, TN, and parts of OH, IN, IL, MS and MO, you are also electing a Regional Director. There are two candidates there and you are to vote for one of them since only one will be elected. Len -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:11 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] a secret message for Chuck Landenberger/MBCA Vote. why do they allow you to vote for up to 4 anyways, I never really understood that
Re: [MBZ] W124 sunroof kaput
Bravo! I knew there had to be folks who could and did tackle this job. The German in me says it should be possible for non-factory trained souls, but I'm too afraid to leave a gaping hole in the roof of my Mom's 300E to be a pioneer in this endeavor.. ...Kevin Mike Boerner said: Gabriel, Mine went about two years ago, same symptoms. Fixed it myself, but the parts aren't inexpensive. Look at the sunroof RR procedure in the manual, it'll get you far enough into removal so you can see what's wrong, and how to remove the sunroof. ( This involves popping the sunroof headliner loose at the front with a flat bladed object, and sliding it forward til it's free). IIRC, the failed parts appear to be approximately $5 worth of plastic, namely an item that serves as a ramp for the pop-up feature (probably the angle bracket, although I don't have the parts catalog. You should buy and install both sides at the same time, as you don't want to do this job twice. I think I wound up with a parts cost of $300-$400, from EMB in Fairfax, VA, at good prices. The only problem I had was that one of the parts came fully dressed, i.e., with piece parts attached, and I had ordered the piece parts as well, due to the uncertainty caused by the part number/nomenclature changes associated with the new design. I found I was able to work around the special tool requirement (I believe a screw and wedges served the function), but I also scribed the position of every adjustment bolt to aid in its reassembly/adjustment. Exclusive of awaiting parts time, this repair consumed the better part of an entire day (once you've removed the headliner, you should be able to figure out how to lower the roof-I remember removing the roof panel, removing the broken brackets, then re-inserting the roof panel, shimming at the front sides to match the outside contour, and taping it shut for about a week til I ordered parts). Maybe I'll get it done it in 1/2 the time when my 300 sdl sunroof goes. Maybe not, judging by how little I can recall now! Mike Boerner 87 300sdl, 87 300d, 01 320ml
Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers
You got some of those from me - On 9/7/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the early 115's are different than the later ones, the hood, grille, fenders, bumpers are different. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] a secret message for Chuck Landenberger/MBCA Vote.
In a message dated 9/7/2005 6:32:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chuck is one of eleven running for four positions. Yes, as Jim says, please vote for the candidate(s) of your choice. Len Thanks, Len, At my age you should never try to go by memory! Even though the ballot was recently perused, I blew it badly. Jim
Re: [MBZ] W123 Ignition Switch Mechanism
Change it NOW so you don't have to do the drilling. They are relatively easy to change. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 7:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] W123 Ignition Switch Mechanism Hello All, I can't recall if it is the W123's or later or all of the Benz's that have the problem with the ignition switch seizing up and having to be drilled out. Mine is acting a little temperamental. Thanks, Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 84kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W123 Ignition Switch Mechanism
Dan, I hesitated and now have to drill the darn thing. Change it out now and save yourself the aggravation. -Scott Levengood -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 7:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] W123 Ignition Switch Mechanism Hello All, I can't recall if it is the W123's or later or all of the Benz's that have the problem with the ignition switch seizing up and having to be drilled out. Mine is acting a little temperamental. Thanks, Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 84kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Production Figures
Does anyone know of a site that contains production numbers for Mercedes chassis? Particularly I need the number of cars produced with the Type II ACC system (US prod. nums if possible as it was standard in the US), which ran from 1976-1981. I googled it, but didn't have much luck. I did find worldwide W123 numbers, which will work just fine... It would be nicer to have more of the chassis though :) If you're wondering why http://www.ece.msstate.edu/courses/design/ece4532/2005_fall/climate_control/index.php Thanks for the help!! John '79 300SD
[MBZ] RustyQ 2005
It has been quite a tumultuous year here at BuyMBparts. First my father-in-law committed suicide the week of Christmas 2004. My wife was named Executrix of the estate and it has been pure hell dealing with groveling siblings the last 8 months. Then our son got married in July and once again Mama was stressed to the max. And finally, we were told last month that my wife's 48 year old brother has 3 to 4 months to live. So. Needless to say she and I are kinda worn out. We have decided to skip one year for the RustyQ, so we can settle down and gain some control in our lives. I am very sorry since this would have been our 8th cookout. I can promise that next year will be a GREAT one. If anyone wants to step up and have a gathering in lieu of this one please come forward. Again, it has really been fun and we have such a neat collection of people, but I really don't think my heart is in it for this year. I look forward to having a nice blast next year around the middle of October. Thanks for your understanding in this matter. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252
Re: [MBZ] W123 Ignition Switch Mechanism
Yep. That would be the W123, perhaps with others following suit. On 07-Sep-2005 08:04:09 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I can't recall if it is the W123's or later or all of the Benz's that have the problem with the ignition switch seizing up and having to be drilled out. Mine is acting a little temperamental. Thanks, Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 84kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] a secret message for Chuck Landenberger/MBCA Vote.
got ya Len Sokoloff wrote: There are eight Directors at Large on the MBCA board. Four are elected each year for two year terms. The top four vote getters are elected. You get to vote for four because you are electing four people. If you live in the Central Region, i.e. KY, TN, and parts of OH, IN, IL, MS and MO, you are also electing a Regional Director. There are two candidates there and you are to vote for one of them since only one will be elected. Len -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers
I know I got a fender which I already sold, I know I got a hood but I thought that was off a later 115. Think I got a front bumper as well but I have not seen it in a while. OK Don wrote: You got some of those from me - On 9/7/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the early 115's are different than the later ones, the hood, grille, fenders, bumpers are different. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers
what do I know about 115? On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 09:10:06 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the early 115's are different than the later ones, the hood, grille, fenders, bumpers are different. Luther Gulseth wrote: You do to have 115 body parts.you just have to come get them.DUH! On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:57:43 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I dont have any early 115 body parts. Plenty of later ones though. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD Brake Job
At the minimum, pads. At most, brake lines, brake fluid, pads, rotors, calipers, and a master cylinder. On 9/7/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm getting ready to do a brake job on all four wheels of my Mercedes. What parts can I expect to replace? I haven't been into it before. Thanks Mike Piles ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD Brake Job
When I did the first rotor replacement on my 1994 S350, I had to remove rolled steel pins from the axle that had no matching hole in the replacement rotor. Three were quite stubborn. I ended up removing the hub, tack welding a short round rod inside the pin, and hammering them out from behind with a 3-pounder. -Dave Walton On 9/7/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm getting ready to do a brake job on all four wheels of my Mercedes. What parts can I expect to replace? I haven't been into it before. Thanks Mike Piles ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Production Figures
http://home.concepts.nl/~vlimmere/the_facts.HTM Does this help? Christopher --- John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a site that contains production numbers for Mercedes chassis? Particularly I need the number of cars produced with the Type II ACC system (US prod. nums if possible as it was standard in the US), which ran from 1976-1981. I googled it, but didn't have much luck. I did find worldwide W123 numbers, which will work just fine... It would be nicer to have more of the chassis though :) If you're wondering why http://www.ece.msstate.edu/courses/design/ece4532/2005_fall/climate_control/index.php Thanks for the help!! John '79 300SD ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/
Re: [MBZ] Production Figures
I can only find the production numbers for the 107 in SLC form: http://fly.hiwaay.net/~gbf/107/slc.htm There are a LOT more SL's though. I am VERY interested in the results of your project - keep us informed of the progress! On 9/7/05, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a site that contains production numbers for Mercedes chassis? Particularly I need the number of cars produced with the Type II ACC system (US prod. nums if possible as it was standard in the US), which ran from 1976-1981. I googled it, but didn't have much luck. I did find worldwide W123 numbers, which will work just fine... It would be nicer to have more of the chassis though :) If you're wondering why http://www.ece.msstate.edu/courses/design/ece4532/2005_fall/climate_control/index.php Thanks for the help!! John '79 300SD -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Production Figures
Anyone have the MSRP for the various W126s and years? Regards, Trampas Stern -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:53 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Production Figures http://home.concepts.nl/~vlimmere/the_facts.HTM Does this help? Christopher --- John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a site that contains production numbers for Mercedes chassis? Particularly I need the number of cars produced with the Type II ACC system (US prod. nums if possible as it was standard in the US), which ran from 1976-1981. I googled it, but didn't have much luck. I did find worldwide W123 numbers, which will work just fine... It would be nicer to have more of the chassis though :) If you're wondering why http://www.ece.msstate.edu/courses/design/ece4532/2005_fall/climate_control/ index.php Thanks for the help!! John '79 300SD ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Production Figures
I'd like to see that too. I think my SD was about $37,000...fun to plug into an inflation calculator. When my wife complains about money I spend on the car, I tell her, somewhat fallaciously, that I paid $2,700 for a $68,000 car, so don't complain. :-) Christopher --- Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have the MSRP for the various W126s and years? Regards, Trampas Stern -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:53 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Production Figures http://home.concepts.nl/~vlimmere/the_facts.HTM Does this help? Christopher --- John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a site that contains production numbers for Mercedes chassis? Particularly I need the number of cars produced with the Type II ACC system (US prod. nums if possible as it was standard in the US), which ran from 1976-1981. I googled it, but didn't have much luck. I did find worldwide W123 numbers, which will work just fine... It would be nicer to have more of the chassis though :) If you're wondering why http://www.ece.msstate.edu/courses/design/ece4532/2005_fall/climate_control/ index.php Thanks for the help!! John '79 300SD ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/
Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD Brake Job
II was looking for what parts that normally need replacement, especially micellaneous pins, shims, clips ect. I don't know when it was last done or when the rotors were replaced, so I'm expecting pads, rotors, brake lines. Thanks Mike Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the minimum, pads. At most, brake lines, brake fluid, pads, rotors, calipers, and a master cylinder. On 9/7/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello all, I'm getting ready to do a brake job on all four wheels of my Mercedes. What parts can I expect to replace? I haven't been into it before. Thanks Mike Piles ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers
I know this is a bit late but I've been getting on average 28mpg since I put the snowtires on last December. Before that the best ever tank was 31.7mpg. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 244kmi Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:54:15 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed What kind of fuel mileage are you getting with your cars? What about stick drivers? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers
Curt, That's nearly 30 percent better fuel mileage than I get! What am I doing wrong or what are you doing right? -Scott Levengood _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers I know this is a bit late but I've been getting on average 28mpg since I put the snowtires on last December. Before that the best ever tank was 31.7mpg. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 244kmi Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:54:15 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin http://us.f328.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]YY=14373ord er=downsort=datepos=1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers To: Mercedes mailing list http://us.f328.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]YY=14373 order=downsort=datepos=1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: http://us.f328.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]Y Y=14373order=downsort=datepos=1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed What kind of fuel mileage are you getting with your cars? What about stick drivers? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Production Figures
That is kind of the argument I would like to make as well Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:50 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Production Figures I'd like to see that too. I think my SD was about $37,000...fun to plug into an inflation calculator. When my wife complains about money I spend on the car, I tell her, somewhat fallaciously, that I paid $2,700 for a $68,000 car, so don't complain. :-) Christopher --- Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have the MSRP for the various W126s and years? Regards, Trampas Stern -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:53 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Production Figures http://home.concepts.nl/~vlimmere/the_facts.HTM Does this help? Christopher --- John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a site that contains production numbers for Mercedes chassis? Particularly I need the number of cars produced with the Type II ACC system (US prod. nums if possible as it was standard in the US), which ran from 1976-1981. I googled it, but didn't have much luck. I did find worldwide W123 numbers, which will work just fine... It would be nicer to have more of the chassis though :) If you're wondering why http://www.ece.msstate.edu/courses/design/ece4532/2005_fall/climate_control/ index.php Thanks for the help!! John '79 300SD ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] M130 drain holes
Hi all, I am planning to doing a flush fill on my 72 250 and the manual does not go into too many details on where the drain holes are located. Anybody have any ideal? also how much torque is required to put the drain back? I have a bad habbit of snapping bolt heads so Ft-LBS would be appriciated. Thanks George
Re: [MBZ] SD Glow Plug Light Blinking
Thanks. I thought it might, but I have had bad glow plugs before with no blinking, on this car too. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: it means you have a bad glow plug. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The dash light for the glow plug in my 1980 SD blinks for 15-30 seconds after the car starts. I don't know when it started doing this, since the car is now being driven by my son. Does not seem to have any effect on the car, but I'm wondering if it's some kind of code. Anyone know? TIA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
Wow...the TRUTH at last, you would stake your favorite MB on these FACTS ?? :-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Disaster Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 22:55:20 -0600 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 19 http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8693 By Ben Stein Published 9/2/2005 11:59:59 PM A few truths, for those who have ears and eyes and care to know the truth: 1.) The hurricane that hit New Orleans and Mississippi and Alabama was an astonishing tragedy. The suffering and loss of life and peace of mind of the residents of those areas is acutely horrifying. 2.) George Bush did not cause the hurricane. Hurricanes have been happening for eons. George Bush did not create them or unleash this one. Yata,Yata,Yata
Re: [MBZ] Drainholos?????
I'd really like to see a chart of the numerous dranholes in my 126 300sdl Wow...the TRUTH at last, you would stake your favorite MB on these FACTS ?? :-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Disaster Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 22:55:20 -0600 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 19 http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8693 By Ben Stein Published 9/2/2005 11:59:59 PM A few truths, for those who have ears and eyes and care to know the truth: 1.) The hurricane that hit New Orleans and Mississippi and Alabama was an astonishing tragedy. The suffering and loss of life and peace of mind of the residents of those areas is acutely horrifying. 2.) George Bush did not cause the hurricane. Hurricanes have been happening for eons. George Bush did not create them or unleash this one. Yata,Yata,Yata ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] SD Glow Plug Light Blinking
Kevin, You may want to chk to see if it's blinking because *more* than just one is bad. Just a thought. Jerry Ö¿Ö ~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Beswick Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:54 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] SD Glow Plug Light Blinking Thanks. I thought it might, but I have had bad glow plugs before with no blinking, on this car too. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: it means you have a bad glow plug. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The dash light for the glow plug in my 1980 SD blinks for 15-30 seconds after the car starts. I don't know when it started doing this, since the car is now being driven by my son. Does not seem to have any effect on the car, but I'm wondering if it's some kind of code. Anyone know? TIA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net