Re: Subversion 1.7 support?

2012-05-27 Thread Rob Rye
Your words were well said and not too long at all. I for one have been using a 
competitor's product for quite a while but have been holding out hope that 
Versions will again be the svn GUI of choice. I actively watch for progress 
whether it is in what is said on this list or in new releases. What you said 
was encouraging. I will continue to look to come back if and when Versions 
meets my needs better than the competitor's product. I have been down the road 
of trying to support what ended up becoming abandon-ware (ZigVersion), and I am 
glad to hear that Versions is far from that. 

Rob
On May 27, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Daniel Pasco wrote:

> I realize that this may seem like a disproportionately long response compared 
> to the comment that spurred it, but we've been talking internally for quite 
> awhile about this situation is and what we can do about it. My previous email 
> was effectively a brain dump of what we've been discussing within our group.
> 
> -Daniel
> 
> On May 27, 2012, at 5:20 AM, Daniel Pasco  wrote:
> 
>> We bought this software to continue updating it and make it even greater 
>> than it already is.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, disclosing our product roadmap is not an option. Jack is in 
>> the unenviable position of being the public face for this product - please 
>> at least divert your frustration to me personally, because he is just 
>> conveying the message that our team members have all internally agreed to 
>> stand by: we give a damn what people think, our product group is very busy, 
>> and we can't talk about when we'll release products or what will be in the 
>> those releases until they have shipped.
>> 
>> If people are upset about that, it's understandable. All that I can say is, 
>> we didn't acquire this product to kill it or sit on it.
>> 
>> The gist of this is as follows:
>> 
>> * We can't miss a deadline we don't announce (on at least one product, we 
>> would have missed our proposed deadline multiple times if we'd kept telling 
>> people when we planned to ship. Unfortunately, really producing a polished 
>> product takes a lot of time, and we agreed internally that we'd rather take 
>> longer to make something better than just push something out the door that 
>> would make people upset).
>> * If we don't announce the features in our next planned release, we can't 
>> get flamed for postponing support for that feature in the release if it 
>> looks like it's not ready to make it into the build yet).
>> * Our competitors (and there are many out there) - can't jump the gun on us 
>> if we don't announce an upcoming feature before it goes live.
>> 
>> All three of these factors are important, and the last one may only be 
>> important to us, but it's a critical one: our product team is young and 
>> totally buried working on applications - if we lose market share simply 
>> because we announce something before it's ready, and someone else is capable 
>> of responding to the announcement before we ship, it's going to really hurt 
>> our ability to even break even on what we're working on - which means that 
>> it will become even harder for our team to ship great updates to these apps.
>> 
>> My personal focus for almost the last year has been on putting absolutely 
>> all of my energy into our product team. These apps are large, complex, great 
>> things, and we're committed to doing great work on everything we ship. Since 
>> our product team currently consists of about five full time developers and 
>> four full time designers, and we have taken on five different applications. 
>> Moving forward with these apps *and* doing a great job on them takes time.
>> 
>> Our company is investing heavily in the product group, currently at a net 
>> loss. Hopefully, at some point in the future we will at least break even on 
>> our work. At the present, please try to take the following points to heart:
>> 
>> * We are crazily in love with our apps
>> * We are working our butts off
>> * We have already turned down offers to acquire our company, as well as 
>> offers to acquire individual products, because we want to see these apps 
>> *ship* and we want them to be amazing. 
>> * We are absolutely not sitting on these apps and happily collecting revenue 
>> from them - we're using the revenue to pay for the work our product team is 
>> doing and our company is sinking considerably more than those apps are 
>> making into the product group in order to pay for the other people that the 
>> direct revenue doesn't cover.
>> 
>> At this point, as I've told Jack (who has expressed support for our stance 
>> of silence, but also really been uncomfortable with the fact that it doesn't 
>> leave him in a very good position on the support front), the only thing we 
>> can do is shut up and ship something great. Which is what we're trying to do.
>> 
>> If we lose customers in the interim, those are lumps we will have to take. 
>> Hopefully as our apps do ship, they will be compelling enough th

Re: Expand Icon in Lion off screen

2012-05-25 Thread Rob Rye
Strange. I have had Versions running with Lion for a while now and do not see 
this behavior.
On May 25, 2012, at 7:37 AM, David Storms wrote:

> See the image. The expand and collapse icon since upgrading to Lion is off 
> the screen. Is this something that will be taken care of when a full Lion 
> compatible update arrives? Are you waiting for mountain lion?
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Re: transferring license to new machine

2011-09-14 Thread Rob Rye
For those frustrated by the lack of support for Versions these days there is an 
excellent alternative to Versions on Mac - 

Cornerstone

http://www.zennaware.com/cornerstone/index.php

Actually, Cornerstone is light years better than Versions. And no, I have no 
connection whatsoever with the developers of Cornerstone. I just gave up on 
Versions, switched, and am delighted.

Rob
On Sep 14, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Mike Combs wrote:

> Thanks for the news; I hadn't heard that. I've been meaning to move to Git, I 
> guess it's about that time.
> 
> On 9/14/11 5:09 PM, Rob Rye wrote:
>> I don't believe they are defunct, strictly speaking. However, I do seem to 
>> recall that Facebook purchased Sofa (the development company behind 
>> Versions) about 3 months ago. I would be stunned if that purchase did not 
>> considerably reduce the developers' commitment to supporting Versions and 
>> the other software developed, or at least owned, by Sofa. After all, 
>> Facebook certainly did not buy the company so that the talent in it could 
>> continue doing what they were doing before.
>> 
>> Rob
>> On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Mike Combs wrote:
>> 
>>> FWIW, I haven't seen any official replies to requests for help on this list 
>>> either. Maybe they're defunct?
>>> 
>>> On 9/14/11 11:02 AM, laura wrote:
>>>> i recently bought a new computer and used time machine to transfer all
>>>> my files/settings. this worked well, but i ended up having to recreate
>>>> my user manually since i had also ported over a bunch of crud from my
>>>> old machine :\
>>>> 
>>>> so when i tried to launch versions, it gave me the popup that my
>>>> evaluation period has expired. i hit 'register', entered my name/
>>>> registration key, and got a message 'thanks for registering'. but, the
>>>> popup that says my trial has expired does not go away and i cannot
>>>> launch the app.
>>>> 
>>>> i've emailed support several times and got no response. this is making
>>>> me regret ever giving my money to a company that completely ignores
>>>> emails from its customers.
>>>> 
>>>> anyone run into this? i'm beyond frustrated...
>>>> 
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Re: transferring license to new machine

2011-09-14 Thread Rob Rye
I don't believe they are defunct, strictly speaking. However, I do seem to 
recall that Facebook purchased Sofa (the development company behind Versions) 
about 3 months ago. I would be stunned if that purchase did not considerably 
reduce the developers' commitment to supporting Versions and the other software 
developed, or at least owned, by Sofa. After all, Facebook certainly did not 
buy the company so that the talent in it could continue doing what they were 
doing before.

Rob
On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Mike Combs wrote:

> FWIW, I haven't seen any official replies to requests for help on this list 
> either. Maybe they're defunct?
> 
> On 9/14/11 11:02 AM, laura wrote:
>> i recently bought a new computer and used time machine to transfer all
>> my files/settings. this worked well, but i ended up having to recreate
>> my user manually since i had also ported over a bunch of crud from my
>> old machine :\
>> 
>> so when i tried to launch versions, it gave me the popup that my
>> evaluation period has expired. i hit 'register', entered my name/
>> registration key, and got a message 'thanks for registering'. but, the
>> popup that says my trial has expired does not go away and i cannot
>> launch the app.
>> 
>> i've emailed support several times and got no response. this is making
>> me regret ever giving my money to a company that completely ignores
>> emails from its customers.
>> 
>> anyone run into this? i'm beyond frustrated...
>> 
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Re: Installed version vs. Update version

2011-02-05 Thread Rob Rye
Dirk,

I saw the identical message to yours.

Rob
On Feb 5, 2011, at 4:23 AM, Dirk Stoop wrote:

> I just re-downloaded 1.1.4 and this is what was presented to me:
> 
> http://a.yfrog.com/img614/3425/hmn1.png
> 
> Can you send us a screenshot of what you're getting over to
> versi...@madebysofa.com?
> 
> Thanks,
> - Dirk
> 
> On Feb 5, 12:40 am, TheDigitalOrchard 
> wrote:
>> Every time Versions tells me about a new update that's available, it
>> always gets the version number wrong.
>> 
>> It says that version 1.1.4 has been downloaded and is ready to be
>> installed, but that's the version I'm already running. It's actually
>> referring to version 1.1.5, which does indeed get installed. Confirmed
>> after relaunch.
>> 
>> Is this a known issue? I've seen it happen for the last few updates at
>> least.
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Re: merge

2010-11-17 Thread Rob Rye

On Nov 13, 2010, at 2:24 AM, Chris Muktar wrote:

>  No GUI app supports
> this very well, but it would be the killer feature of Versions if it
> did- even cornerstone doesn't have that. As teams grow, using merge
> becomes ESSENTIAL and there needs to be a GUI for doing it (even if
> it's just basic merge operations) as doing it on the command line is
> hairy.
> 

What is wrong with Cornerstone's support of merge? It seems to be quite 
effective to me.

Rob

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Re: Diff with Kaleidoscope

2010-11-17 Thread Rob Rye
I have licenses for both. I don't really see any significant difference in the 
support for using Kaleidoscope in Cornerstone as compared with Versions. 

Rob
On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Marijn wrote:

> My trial copy of CS expired so I cannot confirm for 100% but as I
> remember it has a "Compare with" option on a per file bases.
> 
> Exactly what we need in Versions...
> 
> On Nov 8, 10:04 pm, Dirk Stoop  wrote:
>> Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how does Cornerstone have
>> better support for Kaleidoscope than Versions?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> - Dirk
>> 
>> On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Marijn  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Funny, the competition has better support for using Kaleidoscope than
>>> Sofa itself...
>> 
>>> http://www.zennaware.com/cornerstone
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 4:49 pm, Quinn Taylor  wrote:
>> 
 Don't assume it won't be in the future. This email group is not the only 
 way to get the devs' attention, or to judge what will and won't be 
 supported. Check out the FAQ and email them directly here:
>> 
 http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/support
>> 
  - Quinn
>> 
 On Oct 17, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Marijn wrote:
>> 
> Well I take it this is not supported and given the lack of team
> response it won't be in the future either...
>> 
> On Oct 11, 7:08 pm, Quinn Taylor  wrote:
>> It's true, no merge on the feature list.
>> 
>> http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/
>> 
>> Notice the emphasis on *spotting* changes quickly. Merge is not yet 
>> supported, but I imagine it will have to in order to survive and thrive 
>> amid competitors which *do* support merging.
>> 
>>  - Quinn
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2010, at 9:58 AM, pSouper wrote:
>> 
>>> really? Kaleidoscope doesn't merge? what good is a diff tool that
>>> can't merge? i'd be surpised and shocked i it didn't allow you to
>>> merge files - i've just bought it but haven't got around to opening
>>> yet so i'd go as far as being discussted... i'm popping off to test it
>>> now.
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 6:43 am, Marijn  wrote:
 *cough*
>> 
 On Sep 29, 5:17 pm, Marijn  wrote:
>> 
> I'm having a little workflow problem with Kaleidoscope.
>> 
> Unfortunately Kaleidoscope doesn't have merge support (WTF).
> I often need to merge changes, so I'll have to do that with good ol'
> filemerge.
> How do I switch easily between filemerge and kaleidoscope as diff
> viewer from the interface in Versions?
> Going into the preference pane every time seems a bit cumbersome...
>> 
> Kindest regards,
>> 
> Marijn
>> 
>>  smime.p7s
>> 4KViewDownload
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Re: Google Groups Alternatives?

2010-11-12 Thread Rob Rye
I have a fair bit of experience moderating groups on Yahoo! Groups (I inherited 
all these groups from other moderators and am stuck with them as the 
communities that use them are unwilling to contemplate migrating to anything 
better). I find the spam recognition features capricious. The file management 
set up is annoying as well. I definitely would not recommend it for anything 
other than a social group that just wants to have a convenient group email 
system - and doesn't mind having the occasional member email labeled as spam 
for no good reason at all.

Rob
On Nov 12, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Rob Lewis wrote:

> Not really an expert on these things, but what about Yahoo? Used it a
> few years ago and it seemed pretty good.
> 
> On Nov 12, 5:43 am, Dirk Stoop  wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Because Google Groups is slowly dropping features – and it wasn't that
>> great to begin with – we'd like to eventually find a better place to
>> host this mailing list / online forum.
>> 
>> I'd like to ask all of you for suggestions about where to go.
>> 
>> From my point of view (the company's and the moderator's) we'd need at
>> least the following features:
>> 
>> - Moderation for posts from new members (there's quite a bit of spam
>> that would reach the group without this)
>> - Ways to both view and respond to discussions on the web, as well as
>> through email
>> - Ability for members to upload files
>> 
>> Beyond this it doesn't have to be super powerful, as long as it's easy
>> for people to join, read and write to it, I think we've met our goals.
>> 
>> We want this to be a place where people can talk about the app and
>> related topics, help eachother and exchange experiences. Something
>> like getsatisfaction.com (emphasis on feature requests, and voting) or
>> tenderapp.com (emphasis on support tickets, not open discussion) would
>> definitely not fit the bill.
>> 
>> Any feedback, either suggestions for a good place or piece of software
>> to run this on, or about requirements I didn't mention but you think
>> should be part of the evaluation, is very welcome.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> - Dirk
>> 
>> the Versions team
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Re: Easier way of adding

2010-11-10 Thread Rob Rye
I am a bit unclear on what you are asking:

Do you want to know if there is a way to have Versions prompt you 
(automatically) with a message that there are unversioned files within the 
directory tree you have selected to commit and to have the prompt include the 
option to add all those files so they can be committed? 

The short answer to that question is no. So far as I can tell, Versions lacks 
this functionality, but Cornerstone has it.

The fastest way to see such unversioned files in Versions is to have the 
Versions browser show "changed" files instead of "all." Then one has to select 
all the unversioned files, add them, and then you can finally commit. I agree 
that that is too many steps, but I don't see any faster way to do it with 
Versions.

Rob
On Nov 10, 2010, at 9:28 AM, louis w wrote:

> Either I am missing something or Versions needs an improved way of
> adding files in a repo.
> 
> Presently when I am working on a project and get read to commit
> changes (after adding files throughout) and hit commit, there is no
> indication that files have been added. Previous SVN clients
> (SubEclipse) I have used have automatically prompted me to add these
> missing files. Instead what I have to do i manually navigate
> throughout the directory structure adding each file which needs it.
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Re: Diff with Kaleidoscope

2010-11-08 Thread Rob Rye
You got me on that one...
On Nov 8, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Dirk Stoop wrote:

> Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how does Cornerstone have
> better support for Kaleidoscope than Versions?
> 
> Thanks,
> - Dirk
> 
> On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Marijn  wrote:
>> Funny, the competition has better support for using Kaleidoscope than
>> Sofa itself...
>> 
>> http://www.zennaware.com/cornerstone
>> 
>> On Oct 17, 4:49 pm, Quinn Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Don't assume it won't be in the future. This email group is not the only 
>>> way to get the devs' attention, or to judge what will and won't be 
>>> supported. Check out the FAQ and email them directly here:
>> 
>>> http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/support
>> 
>>>  - Quinn
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Marijn wrote:
>> 
 Well I take it this is not supported and given the lack of team
 response it won't be in the future either...
>> 
 On Oct 11, 7:08 pm, Quinn Taylor  wrote:
> It's true, no merge on the feature list.
>> 
> http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/
>> 
> Notice the emphasis on *spotting* changes quickly. Merge is not yet 
> supported, but I imagine it will have to in order to survive and thrive 
> amid competitors which *do* support merging.
>> 
>  - Quinn
>> 
> On Oct 11, 2010, at 9:58 AM, pSouper wrote:
>> 
>> really? Kaleidoscope doesn't merge? what good is a diff tool that
>> can't merge? i'd be surpised and shocked i it didn't allow you to
>> merge files - i've just bought it but haven't got around to opening
>> yet so i'd go as far as being discussted... i'm popping off to test it
>> now.
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 6:43 am, Marijn  wrote:
>>> *cough*
>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 5:17 pm, Marijn  wrote:
>> 
 I'm having a little workflow problem with Kaleidoscope.
>> 
 Unfortunately Kaleidoscope doesn't have merge support (WTF).
 I often need to merge changes, so I'll have to do that with good ol'
 filemerge.
 How do I switch easily between filemerge and kaleidoscope as diff
 viewer from the interface in Versions?
 Going into the preference pane every time seems a bit cumbersome...
>> 
 Kindest regards,
>> 
 Marijn
>> 
>  smime.p7s
> 4KViewDownload
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Re: Quicktime files are marked as changed in Versions, after being opened only for playback by other applications

2010-07-30 Thread Rob Rye
Exactly. Sorry I did not make that explicit.
On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Quinn Taylor wrote:

> Reverting files doesn't cause any extra data traffic — Subversion stores the 
> latest server version of each file locally in a hidden directory. You can 
> revert without even having a connection to the repository.
> 
>   - Quinn
> 
> On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Guz wrote:
> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> At least that will not make my repository bigger, but will still
>> generate a lot of extra data traffic.
>> Not a big problem, but rather anoying, because you have to manually go
>> through all the changed files.
>> 
>> I think I will try to make my media files read-only or something.. :)
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 5:18 pm, Rob Rye  wrote:
>>> I am not familiar with the specific problem you cite. Nonetheless, you are 
>>> probably correct in your guess about the header.
>>> 
>>> One quick solution, annoying as it would be, would be to use the revert 
>>> command (button) in Versions every time there is a change you know is not 
>>> substantive (e.g. just a change in a header indicating that the video has 
>>> been played again). This procedure should revert the working copy version 
>>> to the version on the repository.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Guz wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Does anyone else have this problem or know a cure?
>>> 
>>>> If quicktime video files that I have in my repository are touched by
>>>> another program, Versions will mark them as changed and wants to
>>>> update it to the repository.
>>> 
>>>> I am very sure the video's where not changed. Perhaps quicktime stores
>>>> a little info in the header (perhaps a timestamp or something).
>>>> Or could it be that files on mac somehow store information about the
>>>> applications that use the file?
>>> 
>>>> If I check the finder, the creation date is that of the last checkout,
>>>> and the file change date is that of the last time the quicktime was
>>>> opened.
>>> 
>>>> I don't want to store muliple copies of large video files if they
>>>> really aren't changed.
>>>> Does anyone know a solution?
>>> 
>>>> Perhaps the next gen SVN handles large files better - not storing
>>>> whole files, but only the changes in large files! :)
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Re: Quicktime files are marked as changed in Versions, after being opened only for playback by other applications

2010-07-30 Thread Rob Rye
I am not familiar with the specific problem you cite. Nonetheless, you are 
probably correct in your guess about the header.

One quick solution, annoying as it would be, would be to use the revert command 
(button) in Versions every time there is a change you know is not substantive 
(e.g. just a change in a header indicating that the video has been played 
again). This procedure should revert the working copy version to the version on 
the repository.

On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Guz wrote:

> Does anyone else have this problem or know a cure?
> 
> If quicktime video files that I have in my repository are touched by
> another program, Versions will mark them as changed and wants to
> update it to the repository.
> 
> I am very sure the video's where not changed. Perhaps quicktime stores
> a little info in the header (perhaps a timestamp or something).
> Or could it be that files on mac somehow store information about the
> applications that use the file?
> 
> If I check the finder, the creation date is that of the last checkout,
> and the file change date is that of the last time the quicktime was
> opened.
> 
> I don't want to store muliple copies of large video files if they
> really aren't changed.
> Does anyone know a solution?
> 
> Perhaps the next gen SVN handles large files better - not storing
> whole files, but only the changes in large files! :)
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Re: Can I do a partial commit?

2010-07-03 Thread Rob Rye
You can make the commit as fine grained as you like (down to a single file).

Simply select those files you wish to commit and click on commit. You can 
select multiple (non-consecutive) files using command-click.


On Jul 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Daniel Israel wrote:

> I'm working with Versions for the first time and so far I like it.
> However, I'm wondering if there is a way to do a partial commit?
> 
> I have several changes, but I only want to commit some of them and
> can't figure out how this is done.  I'm coming from TortoiseSVN on
> windows where you can select which of the files you want to commit.
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
> 
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Re: VVersions not libAdMob.a not being added to SVN

2010-06-01 Thread Rob Rye
Ah. Yes, my approach is the sledgehammer and yours is the flyswatter. Given the 
desire to check in a single .a file I would guess the flyswatter is much more 
appropriate. I am glad to have learned of the flyswatter myself.

Thanks,

Rob


On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:21 PM, Kieren wrote:

> Alternatively you can see  all the ignored items in a given "working copy" 
> folder by choosing the view menu then "show ignored items" 
> You will then see all the ignored items including .a files .DSstore etc
> Then right click the item you want and choose add then do your commit and 
> your fille will be in the repo.
> then you can hide the ignored items again
> 
> Took me a while with this too ;)
> 
> HTH
> 
> Kieren
> On 02/06/2010, at 1:38 PM, Rob Rye wrote:
> 
>> The problem is almost certainly outside of Versions purview. Your 
>> global-ignores list, which is not accessible from within Version (or any 
>> other subversion GUI I know of) almost certainly includes *.a (that is true 
>> by default on my machine anyway)
>> 
>> To check, go to the config file for your username for subversion In your 
>> home directory:
>> 
>> ~/.subversion/config (i.e. /Users/yourusername/.subverison/config)
>> 
>> Because the folder name starts with "." the folder .subverison is hidden. 
>> 
>> It can be accessed most easily via the terminal (I use emacs, but you could 
>> use vi, and you can do the same thing in TextWrangler, BBEdit, or any other 
>> GUI that can see hidden files):
>> 
>> 1) cd ~/.subversion
>> 
>> 2) emacs config
>> 
>> 1a) (or simply type: emacs ~/.subversion/config)
>> 
>> 3) scroll down to line 94 or so (the exact line number may vary depending on 
>> your OS version etc. for all I know). You should find a line that starts
>> 
>>  global-ignores
>> 
>> If this line is uncommented, then subversion will, by default ignore .a 
>> files. This is true not just for Versions but for all interfaces for 
>> subversion by default on Macs, so far as I know. 
>> 
>> 4) To enable subversion to see .a files simply remove the entry for 
>> 
>>  *.a
>> 
>> from the global-ignores list and save. You may need to restart Versions or 
>> simply hit Update to alert it to the change in the global-ignores list but 
>> this should do the trick.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Hardy Macia wrote:
>> 
>>> Does  Versions ignore all .a files?  I'm trying to add libAdMob.a to my svn 
>>> on beanstalkapp.com, but it keeps disappearing….or I thought it did. It 
>>> seems that Versions ignores the .a file and therefore never adds it to the 
>>> SVN. 
>>> 
>>> I checked the ignore list and libAdMob.a isn't being ignored.
>>> If I change the name to zlibAdMob.a Versions still doesn't see it.
>>> If I change the name to libAdMob.b then Versions sees it.
>>> 
>>> How to I get the .a file checked in, or is there a setting in Versions that 
>>> I can flip so it will check in this file?
>>> 
>>> -- Hardy
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Re: VVersions not libAdMob.a not being added to SVN

2010-06-01 Thread Rob Rye
The problem is almost certainly outside of Versions purview. Your 
global-ignores list, which is not accessible from within Version (or any other 
subversion GUI I know of) almost certainly includes *.a (that is true by 
default on my machine anyway)

To check, go to the config file for your username for subversion In your home 
directory:

~/.subversion/config (i.e. /Users/yourusername/.subverison/config)

Because the folder name starts with "." the folder .subverison is hidden. 

It can be accessed most easily via the terminal (I use emacs, but you could use 
vi, and you can do the same thing in TextWrangler, BBEdit, or any other GUI 
that can see hidden files):

1) cd ~/.subversion

2) emacs config

1a) (or simply type: emacs ~/.subversion/config)

3) scroll down to line 94 or so (the exact line number may vary depending on 
your OS version etc. for all I know). You should find a line that starts

global-ignores

If this line is uncommented, then subversion will, by default ignore .a files. 
This is true not just for Versions but for all interfaces for subversion by 
default on Macs, so far as I know. 

4) To enable subversion to see .a files simply remove the entry for 

*.a

from the global-ignores list and save. You may need to restart Versions or 
simply hit Update to alert it to the change in the global-ignores list but this 
should do the trick.


Cheers,

Rob


On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Hardy Macia wrote:

> Does  Versions ignore all .a files?  I'm trying to add libAdMob.a to my svn 
> on beanstalkapp.com, but it keeps disappearing….or I thought it did. It seems 
> that Versions ignores the .a file and therefore never adds it to the SVN. 
> 
> I checked the ignore list and libAdMob.a isn't being ignored.
> If I change the name to zlibAdMob.a Versions still doesn't see it.
> If I change the name to libAdMob.b then Versions sees it.
> 
> How to I get the .a file checked in, or is there a setting in Versions that I 
> can flip so it will check in this file?
> 
> -- Hardy
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Re: How to change repository location?

2010-05-19 Thread Rob Rye
So far as I know this is because the working copy itself is pointing to the old 
location (inside those mysterious .svn folders).

I don't know if Versions actually has the capacity to do "svn switch"

I have always done this sort of thing on the command line using the command svn 
switch:

See

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.ref.svn.c.switch.html

for the syntax and method of execution.

Rob
On May 17, 2010, at 3:48 PM, cperkins wrote:

> Under my bookmarks menu I have a repository with several
> subdirectories.  Our SVN repository was moved to a new location today
> and has a new IP.
> 
> I used "Edit Bookmark" to edit the main repository and have entered in
> the new IP address and username and password. It seems to connect
> fine.
> 
> But when I click one of my subdirectories and try to commit them, they
> try to connect to the old IP address, not the new.  How do I update
> these directories to use the address of the parent repository?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris
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Re: Versions Release Schedule

2010-05-09 Thread Rob Rye
If it is still available, Zigversion handled merge fine for me. I miss it. The 
last stable version (1.2.3) was built against svn 1.4.x and svn 1.5.x, if 
memory serves. I had long thought of it as abandon-ware. However, the developer 
put up a pre-release of version 1.3 in December that worked with svn 1.6. I 
have it, but have been nervous about using it for my main client because it is 
a pre-release rather than a stable version. If you are desperate enough for the 
merge functionality though, you might try it on a sort of an emergency basis. 
Unfortunately, the zigversion website is not responding right this minute, so I 
don't know if that indicates that Erik finally abandoned the project or if it 
just happens to be down for a bit. It is free for academics so I don't actually 
know what it cost for the stable releases...

Cheers

Rob


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Re: Getting Started Question

2009-11-18 Thread Rob Rye

My pleasure. I don't contribute as much to the group as I would like to. So, 
the least I can do is catch the sort of typos that are common in my own emails 
;-)

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On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Kevin Powick wrote:

> 
> 
> On Nov 18, 1:06 pm, Quinn Taylor  wrote:
>> True. I was about to write the same thing, but I realized he got it right 
>> the second time at the bottom of the email.  :-)
> 
> Fat fungers and the two keys are next to each other. :-)
> 
> Thanks for correcting it, Rob.
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Re: Getting Started Question

2009-11-18 Thread Rob Rye

The subversion website is 

http://subversion.tigris.org (note there is no u but rather a second i in 
tigris).
On Nov 18, 2009, at 5:40 AM, Kevin Powick wrote:

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> A lot of good information can be found at subversion.tigrus.org.  I'm
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> really about Versions and how it interacts with Subversion (SVN), so
> it's assumed that users probably have at least basic familiarity with
> SVN.

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Re: unable to install

2009-09-16 Thread Rob Rye
My apologies if I have misunderstood your question, but it seems like  
you are asking a general question about where folders like Application  
Support lie...

Mac OS X provides a standard set of locations for preferences and  
other supporting information for applications. Basically, any  
information that is not static and is needed for the proper operation  
of the application is supposed to go into one of two folders called  
"Application Support". Information that is specific to a particular  
user generally goes in:

/Library/Application Support/ (actually  
the full path is : /Users//Library/Application Support/ 
) -

you can get there from your home icon. Click on your 
username/house  
icon, click on Library, click on Application Support, eh voila.

Those that apply to all users typically go into

/Library/Application Support/

you can get there by clicking on the hard disk icon in your 
sidebar  
and burrowing down through Library/Application Support/

There are some variations on that theme. For instance, all of the  
iWork applications are found under /Application Suport/iWork/ 
.

User or machine-specific information that helps an application  
function is often in a folder with the application's name in one of  
the two Application Support folders. These folders should be treated  
carefully if you are unfamiliar with how it works, but in extreme  
situations wherein you cannot get the application to function at all,  
it makes sense to drag the application's folder from Application  
Support to the Desktop and restart the application. Don't just throw  
it away, until you know it is corrupted. If the problem resided in the  
Preferences, etc. the problem will be fixed but your information will  
not be in place. You can then try to restore the files that have your  
saved information in them. If the problem was not in the Application  
Support files then you should probably re-install and copy your  
information back from the Desktop to the Application Support folder.

Many applications cannot function at all without properly set  
preferences, etc. Often, when there is a problem wherein an  
application refuses to function properly (or at all) the problem lies  
in a preferences file or in some other Application Support file. Most  
applications automatically regenerate a copy of their Application  
Support folder or any key files inside it with the default values when  
the folder is absent. Thus, moving the folder (or a corrupted  
preferences file) to the Desktop often solves the problem when an  
application simply will not function but leaves you with no saved  
information (e.g. bookmarks). Because this removes your saved  
information, one only resorts to this solution when one either has no  
choice or has a backup of bookmarks etc. as these files tend to  
contain all the user information you have stored on the computer  
related to that application.

Rob
On Sep 16, 2009, at 5:33 AM, Dirk Jan Menkveld wrote:

> Michael,
>
> I've no such Versions folder, only Versions.app and also no  
> 'Application Support' folder, where can i find it?
>
> Or did i missed something?
>
> Dirk
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Michael Barrish  
>  wrote:
>
> A follow-up: I solved my particular problem by trashing the Versions
> folder in Application Support. Given that I hadn't yet used the
> program, this didn't cost me any lost bookmarks, etc. Here's the
> thread that gave me the idea to try this:
> http://groups.google.com/group/versions/browse_thread/thread/5ec4e7fe4b8705d0/9d762f3eb468e4f9?lnk=gst&q=application+support#9d762f3eb468e4f9
>  
> .
>
> Frankly it sucks that the tech folks never responded to my problem,
> which after all prevented me from using the program. Not a great way
> to start off.
>
>
>
>
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