Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Blair Davis]

  
  
GFCI's are to detect and prevent leakage currents.

They monitor the current in the hot and the neutral lines.

Ever stood barefoot on the ground and held a drill or saw and gotten
shocked?  A GFCI, working properly, will prevent that from killing
you, or even shocking you for more than a few mS

In properly working equipment, basic electrical theory shows that
the current in the hot line and current in the neutral lines must be
equal.

If the currents are not equal, then current is 'leaking;' out of the
circuit.  

The GFCI senses the imbalance and interrupts the circuit to stop the
leakage.

They are not perfect, though.

You can hook up an old 2 prong hair dryer and drop it in a bathtub
full of water without tripping the GFCI if you know how.

I was an electrician for the Navy for years...

I won't plug a tower into one.  Every time the lighting flashes for
30 miles around, they trip...



On 3/16/2012 11:45 AM, DJ Anderson wrote:
I thought GFCI's were to protect circuits from
  moisture mainly, AFAIK they do not provide any type of protection
  for devices other than cutting the circuit if it senses a ground
  fault. 
  
  DJ Anderson

  Shelby Broadband



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Ben
  West 
  wrote:
  
To add to the anecdotal evidence against cheap GFCI outlets,
I had to remove one in a building when spontaneous trips
started occurring randomly (e.g. once every couple weeks)
after an adjacent building received a direct lightening
strike.

  

For that matter, the GFCI contributed nothing to
  lightening protection, still lost a bunch of equipment.
  
  
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  Ben West
  http://gowasabi.net
b...@gowasabi.net
  


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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Troy Settle]

Next stupid outage at a different site.

 

Specs:

 

Generac 8KW generator

Automatic Transfer Switch

APC 450 rack mount UPS

Mikrotik RB1200

Mikrotik RB435 (3x 802.11n sectors)

Dragonwave Compact Horizon #1

Dragonwave Compact Horizon #2

 

(I don't know how many horses, chickens, goats, pigs, and other critters are
onsite, but I don't think they're an issue).

 

Total load on the UPS is at 44%, estimated run is 25 minutes (long enough
for the generator and switch to do their thing).

 

Radios grounded to the tower, tower grounded and bonded to the shack.  Shack
has two rods (panel -> Rod -> Rod -> Generator).

 

Everything inside is bonded as well, including the drain wires on all the
Cat-5.

 

Yesterday, the Dragonwaves rebooted several times during the storm, but
neither RB lost power even once.

 

Any guesses?  I'm sleeping on it over the weekend, but probably need to get
it figured out before too many more storms come over the mountains.

 

Thanks,

 

-Troy

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Troy Settle
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:05 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

 

Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.  One
of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just
to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).

 

Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without
violating code?

 

Thanks,

 

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  The Wired Road Authority

  1117 E. Stuart Dr.

  Galax, VA 24333

  (276) 238-0049 (office)

  (276) 237-3890 (cell)

  tset...@thewiredroad.net

 

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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Travis Johnson]

So they crammed five Rockets into a single case? LOL

Travis


On 3/16/2012 1:39 PM, wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
> It is widely suspected that UBNT is announcing a gigabit licensed link next 
> week.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Forbes Mercy"
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 12:07:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
>
>
> I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost 
> radio business? Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be quality of 
> equipment reasons?
>
> Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day,
>
> Forbes
>
> On 3/16/2012 7:11 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop.
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
>
> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings
> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 
> 1Gbps.
>
>
> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>
>
> Hop 1: 2 miles
> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>
>
> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>
>
> Please call my Cell listed below.
>
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[wispawireless]

It is widely suspected that UBNT is announcing a gigabit licensed link next 
week.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: "Forbes Mercy" 
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 12:07:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.


I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost radio 
business? Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be quality of 
equipment reasons? 

Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day, 

Forbes 

On 3/16/2012 7:11 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: 

Hi, 

Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop. 

Travis 


On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: 

I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings 
for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. 


I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. 


Hop 1: 2 miles 
Hop 2: 2.8 miles 
Hop 3: 5.6 miles 
Hop 4: 2.6 miles 
Hop 5: 2.6 miles 


Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 


Please call my Cell listed below. 


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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Jeromie Reeves]

We put in a enclosure and that let us say it was 'indoors' and drop
the gfci requirement.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Troy Settle  wrote:
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.  One
> of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just
> to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>
>
>
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without
> violating code?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> --
>
>   Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>
>   The Wired Road Authority
>
>   1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>
>   Galax, VA 24333
>
>   (276) 238-0049 (office)
>
>   (276) 237-3890 (cell)
>
>   tset...@thewiredroad.net
>
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Daniel White]

Snaplink makes an upconverted Atheros based radio in the 24GHz band that is
TDD. before buying one I'd find another WISP user that has deployed one and
ask them how well it performs :-)

 

>From a price perspective I think they are pretty close to a SAF Freemile
link anyways.

 

http://www.snaplinkradio.com  

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Jenkins
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

 

I assume its probably because wifi chips wont meet the spectrum masks
required. Also 24ghz requires a transmit channel and a receive channel be
many hundred mhz apart.

On 03/16/2012 10:35 AM, Kyle Duren wrote: 

Along those same lines, what is keeping them from making 24ghz unlicensed
p2p radios? 

 

-Kyle Duren

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Forbes Mercy
 wrote:

I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost
radio business?  Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be quality
of equipment reasons?

Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day,

Forbes 

 

 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Matt Jenkins]

  
  
I assume its probably because wifi chips wont meet the spectrum
masks required. Also 24ghz requires a transmit channel and a receive
channel be many hundred mhz apart.

On 03/16/2012 10:35 AM, Kyle Duren wrote:
Along those same lines, what is keeping them from
  making 24ghz unlicensed p2p radios?
  
  
  -Kyle Duren

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM,
  Forbes Mercy 
  wrote:
  
 I'm just curious what
  is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost radio
  business?  Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't
  be quality of equipment reasons?
  
  Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day,
  
  Forbes
  

  

  

  

  
  

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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Kyle Duren]

Along those same lines, what is keeping them from making 24ghz unlicensed
p2p radios?

-Kyle Duren

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Forbes Mercy  wrote:

>  I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost
> radio business?  Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be quality
> of equipment reasons?
>
> Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day,
>
> Forbes
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Forbes Mercy]

I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost 
radio business?  Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be 
quality of equipment reasons?


Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day,

Forbes

On 3/16/2012 7:11 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:

Hi,

Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop.

Travis


On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their 
offerings
for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps 
to 1Gbps.


I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.

Hop 1: 2 miles
Hop 2: 2.8 miles
Hop 3: 5.6 miles
Hop 4: 2.6 miles
Hop 5: 2.6 miles

Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8

Please call my Cell listed below.

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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Josh Luthman]

But that doesn't include a bird eating the wire :)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 1:02 PM, "Daniel White"  wrote:

> Five 9’s with 23GHz at 256QAM is easy for most of these links… the 6 mile
> link is either 18GHz or 23GHz depending on preferences
>
> ** **
>
> Daniel White
>
> (303) 746-3590
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 10:57 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
>
> ** **
>
> Licensed and a ptp600?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 16, 2012 12:36 PM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
> Ohh and 5 9's is required..
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ryan Ghering  wrote:*
> ***
>
> As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180
> at the top of the tower.
>
> ** **
>
> Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA
>
> ** **
>
> Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
> room to spare.
>
> ** **
>
> Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep
> pockets..
>
> ** **
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
> Like what? :)
>
> ** **
>
> Ryan
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
> offerings
>
> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to
> 1Gbps.
>
> ** **
>
> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>
> ** **
>
> Hop 1: 2 miles
>
> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
>
> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
>
> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
>
> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>
> ** **
>
> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>
> ** **
>
> Please call my Cell listed below.
> 
>
> ** **
>
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Daniel White]

Five 9's with 23GHz at 256QAM is easy for most of these links. the 6 mile
link is either 18GHz or 23GHz depending on preferences

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

 

Licensed and a ptp600?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 16, 2012 12:36 PM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

Ohh and 5 9's is required..

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ryan Ghering  wrote:

As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at
the top of the tower.

 

Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA

 

Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
room to spare.

 

Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep
pockets..

 

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

Like what? :)

 

Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

Need to share a lot more information for that quote.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
offerings

for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to
1Gbps.

 

I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.

 

Hop 1: 2 miles

Hop 2: 2.8 miles

Hop 3: 5.6 miles

Hop 4: 2.6 miles

Hop 5: 2.6 miles

 

Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8

 

Please call my Cell listed below.


 

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Network Operations - Plains.Net
Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879

 

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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Josh Luthman]

Licensed and a ptp600?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 12:36 PM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

> Ohh and 5 9's is required..
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ryan Ghering  wrote:
>
>> As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180
>> at the top of the tower.
>>
>> Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA
>>
>> Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
>> room to spare.
>>
>> Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty
>> deep pockets..
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>>
 Like what? :)

 Ryan

 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
>> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
>> offerings
>> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps
>> to 1Gbps.
>>
>> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>>
>> Hop 1: 2 miles
>> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
>> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
>> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
>> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>>
>> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>>
>> Please call my Cell listed below.
>>
>> --
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>> Network Operations - Plains.Net
>> Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Troy Settle]

Thanks Matt!

Yeah, the outlet itself is on a post next to the tower foundation and a
dropcord feeds into a NEMA box mounted on the tower (no shack).  We have a
few sites set up like this, and I think I'm going to hardwire everything
before we get much further into lightning season.

Since posting, I spoke with an electrician who has done some other work for
us, and he also suggested yanking the GFCI.

I don't know why this was installed this way.  I'm thinking that the
electrician who did the original work was thinking more residential than
industrial.  I'll leave the GFCI outlet in place as a convenience outlet to
provide the extra protection when we're out there working.


-Troy

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Hoppes [mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:09 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Cc: Troy Settle
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
> 
> You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
> regulation before.
> 
> A few thoughts come to mind:
> 
> * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
> for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
> keeps you from having an outage.
> 
> * Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
> your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
> have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.
> 
> If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
> plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
> hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?
> 
> On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> > Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> > One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> > miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
> >
> > Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> > without violating code?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Ryan Ghering]

Ohh and 5 9's is required..

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ryan Ghering  wrote:

> As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180
> at the top of the tower.
>
> Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA
>
> Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
> room to spare.
>
> Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep
> pockets..
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>
>>> Like what? :)
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Need to share a lot more information for that quote.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
> offerings
> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps
> to 1Gbps.
>
> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>
> Hop 1: 2 miles
> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>
> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>
> Please call my Cell listed below.
>
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Josh Luthman]

There you go, send your coordinates and get some CFIP Luminas.  Run
fiber for data and cat5 for power.  I know first hand it works quite
well.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Daniel White  wrote:
> I appreciate the shout out either way!
>
> Should anyone else be interested, below is my SAF contact info.
>
> Daniel White – Sales Manager Western US
> SAF Tehnika JSC
>
> Cell:   +1 303-746-3590
> SAF office:     +371 67046840
> Skype: danieldwhite
> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:00 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
>
> Daniel White is with SAF.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Zach Mann  wrote:
>> Email Daniel White w Baltic.
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>>
>>> They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list..
>>> That's why I Asked folks to contact me..
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman
>>>  wrote:

 No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without
 coordinates.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
> As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up
> to 180 at the top of the tower.
>
> Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a
> NDA
>
> Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish
> with room to spare.
>
> Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has
> pretty deep pockets..
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman
>  wrote:
>>
>> Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Like what? :)
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman
>>>  wrote:

 Need to share a lot more information for that quote.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of
> their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles
> solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps.
>
> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>
> Hop 1: 2 miles
> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>
> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>
> Please call my Cell listed below.
>
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Daniel White]

I appreciate the shout out either way!

Should anyone else be interested, below is my SAF contact info.

Daniel White – Sales Manager Western US
SAF Tehnika JSC

Cell:   +1 303-746-3590
SAF office: +371 67046840
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:00 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

Daniel White is with SAF.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Zach Mann  wrote:
> Email Daniel White w Baltic.
>
> On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>
>> They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list..
>> That's why I Asked folks to contact me..
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without 
>>> coordinates.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

 As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up 
 to 180 at the top of the tower.

 Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a 
 NDA

 Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish 
 with room to spare.

 Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has 
 pretty deep pockets..

 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman 
  wrote:
>
> Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>
>> Like what? :)
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

 I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of 
 their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles 
 solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps.

 I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.

 Hop 1: 2 miles
 Hop 2: 2.8 miles
 Hop 3: 5.6 miles
 Hop 4: 2.6 miles
 Hop 5: 2.6 miles

 Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8

 Please call my Cell listed below.

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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Fred Goldstein]

At 3/16/2012 11:45 AM, JoshL wrote:


No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates.


I suspect he'll volunteer coordinates to a bona fide offeror. Just 
not to the list.


It looks like some of the shorter hops could be handled with 24 GHz 
unlicensed, if only marginally fast enough.  Maybe faster with 80 GHz 
licensed, albeit with a 0.4 degree beam width to maintain.  60 GHz 
unlicened wouldn't hack it. The longer hop might work at 18 GHz 
licensed.  The radios (say, Dragonwave, SAF or Bridgewave) aren't 
terribly expensive (well, a lot more than Ubiquitis), but will need 
precise installation. I assume he has identified clear paths.


On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, "Ryan Ghering" 
<rgher...@gmail.com> wrote:
As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 
180 at the top of the tower.


Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA

Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish 
with room to spare.


Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has 
pretty deep pockets..


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:


Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering" 
<rgher...@gmail.com> wrote:

Like what? :)

Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:


Need to share a lot more information for that quote.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering" 
<rgher...@gmail.com> wrote:

I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings
for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 
100Mbps to 1Gbps.


I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.

Hop 1: 2 miles
Hop 2: 2.8 miles
Hop 3: 5.6 miles
Hop 4: 2.6 miles
Hop 5: 2.6 miles

Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8

Please call my Cell listed below.


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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Matt Hoppes]

E-Mail Jon Hoeweler with Streakwave.

jon [at] streakwave.com

Tell him Matt sent you.


On 3/16/12 11:59 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Daniel White is with SAF.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Zach Mann  wrote:
>> Email Daniel White w Baltic.
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>>
>>> They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list..
>>> That's why I Asked folks to contact me..
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman
>>>   wrote:

 No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without
 coordinates.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
> As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180
> at the top of the tower.
>
> Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA
>
> Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
> room to spare.
>
> Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty
> deep pockets..
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman
>   wrote:
>>
>> Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Like what? :)
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman
>>>   wrote:

 Need to share a lot more information for that quote.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
> offerings
> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of
> 100Mbps to 1Gbps.
>
> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>
> Hop 1: 2 miles
> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>
> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>
> Please call my Cell listed below.
>
> --
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> Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Ben West]

This is true.  The GFCI outlet happened to already be in the building when
I installed equipment.  It turns out the GFCI outlet itself could have
benefited from lightening isolation.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM, DJ Anderson  wrote:

> I thought GFCI's were to protect circuits from moisture mainly, AFAIK they
> do not provide any type of protection for devices other than cutting the
> circuit if it senses a ground fault.
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Josh Luthman]

Daniel White is with SAF.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Zach Mann  wrote:
> Email Daniel White w Baltic.
>
> On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>
>> They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list..
>> That's why I Asked folks to contact me..
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without
>>> coordinates.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

 As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180
 at the top of the tower.

 Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA

 Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
 room to spare.

 Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty
 deep pockets..

 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman
  wrote:
>
> Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>
>> Like what? :)
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

 I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
 offerings
 for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of
 100Mbps to 1Gbps.

 I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.

 Hop 1: 2 miles
 Hop 2: 2.8 miles
 Hop 3: 5.6 miles
 Hop 4: 2.6 miles
 Hop 5: 2.6 miles

 Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8

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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Zach Mann]

Email Daniel White w Baltic.
On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

> They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list..
> That's why I Asked folks to contact me..
>
> Ryan
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without
>> coordinates.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>
>>> As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180
>>> at the top of the tower.
>>>
>>> Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA
>>>
>>> Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
>>> room to spare.
>>>
>>> Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty
>>> deep pockets..
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

> Like what? :)
>
> Ryan
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>
>>> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
>>> offerings
>>> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of
>>> 100Mbps to 1Gbps.
>>>
>>> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>>>
>>> Hop 1: 2 miles
>>> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
>>> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
>>> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
>>> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>>>
>>> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>>>
>>> Please call my Cell listed below.
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Ryan Ghering]

They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list..
That's why I Asked folks to contact me..

Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
>> As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180
>> at the top of the tower.
>>
>> Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA
>>
>> Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
>> room to spare.
>>
>> Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty
>> deep pockets..
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>>
 Like what? :)

 Ryan

 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
>> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
>> offerings
>> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps
>> to 1Gbps.
>>
>> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>>
>> Hop 1: 2 miles
>> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
>> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
>> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
>> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>>
>> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>>
>> Please call my Cell listed below.
>>
>> --
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>> Network Operations - Plains.Net
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[DJ Anderson]

I thought GFCI's were to protect circuits from moisture mainly, AFAIK they
do not provide any type of protection for devices other than cutting the
circuit if it senses a ground fault.

DJ Anderson
Shelby Broadband



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Ben West  wrote:

> To add to the anecdotal evidence against cheap GFCI outlets, I had to
> remove one in a building when spontaneous trips started occurring randomly
> (e.g. once every couple weeks) after an adjacent building received a direct
> lightening strike.
>
> For that matter, the GFCI contributed nothing to lightening protection,
> still lost a bunch of equipment.
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Josh Luthman]

No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

> As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180
> at the top of the tower.
>
> Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA
>
> Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
> room to spare.
>
> Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep
> pockets..
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>
>>> Like what? :)
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Need to share a lot more information for that quote.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
> offerings
> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps
> to 1Gbps.
>
> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>
> Hop 1: 2 miles
> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>
> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>
> Please call my Cell listed below.
>
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Matt Hoppes]

Without coordinates you aren't going to get anything from a lot of 
people, myself included.  I can't promise anything is going to work if I 
don't know where the towers are, what the terrain is like, etc.

There are hops I have between 180 foot towers that require an 
intermediate hop to make it work.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 3/16/12 11:39 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
> As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180
> at the top of the tower.
>
> Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA
>
> Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
> room to spare.
>
> Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty
> deep pockets..
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman
> mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>
> Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  > wrote:
>
> Like what? :)
>
> Ryan
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman
>  > wrote:
>
> Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  > wrote:
>
> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on
> any of their offerings
> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for
> BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps.
>
> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>
> Hop 1: 2 miles
> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>
> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>
> Please call my Cell listed below.
>
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Ryan Ghering]

As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at
the top of the tower.

Coords? well thats not necessary  and I can't give out, due to a NDA

Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
room to spare.

Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep
pockets..

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
>> Like what? :)
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>>
 I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
 offerings
 for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps
 to 1Gbps.

 I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.

 Hop 1: 2 miles
 Hop 2: 2.8 miles
 Hop 3: 5.6 miles
 Hop 4: 2.6 miles
 Hop 5: 2.6 miles

 Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8

 Please call my Cell listed below.

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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Ben West]

To add to the anecdotal evidence against cheap GFCI outlets, I had to
remove one in a building when spontaneous trips started occurring randomly
(e.g. once every couple weeks) after an adjacent building received a direct
lightening strike.

For that matter, the GFCI contributed nothing to lightening protection,
still lost a bunch of equipment.

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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Matt Hoppes]

I'll do it for $50.  No uptime requirements were given.


On 3/16/12 11:35 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
> that 6 mile has a 180 foot tower on one end and a 40 foot on the other..
> lol..
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman
> mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>
> You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6
> mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Travis Johnson  > wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop.
>  >
>  > Travis
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
>  >
>  > I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
>  > offerings
>  > for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of
> 100Mbps to
>  > 1Gbps.
>  >
>  > I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>  >
>  > Hop 1: 2 miles
>  > Hop 2: 2.8 miles
>  > Hop 3: 5.6 miles
>  > Hop 4: 2.6 miles
>  > Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>  >
>  > Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>  >
>  > Please call my Cell listed below.
>  >
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Ryan Ghering]

that 6 mile has a 180 foot tower on one end and a 40 foot on the other..
lol..

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6
> mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop.
> >
> > Travis
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
> >
> > I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
> > offerings
> > for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to
> > 1Gbps.
> >
> > I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
> >
> > Hop 1: 2 miles
> > Hop 2: 2.8 miles
> > Hop 3: 5.6 miles
> > Hop 4: 2.6 miles
> > Hop 5: 2.6 miles
> >
> > Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
> >
> > Please call my Cell listed below.
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Bret Clark]

On 03/16/2012 11:27 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

That's what breakers are for - shorts.
GFCIs are for quick blows for things like dropping something in
water.   I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower
building.


I agree, there's  fuse panel, why the heck is a GFCI needed too at a 
tower site? Are you sure this is code? My guess is some inspector has 
completely misread the code and is applying house code to a tower site!
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Justin Wilson]

My point was if Code actually requires it, which in this case it may 
not,
don't replace it because it's an inconvenience.  You are potentially
liable if something were to happen if you are the one who went against
code. Instead find a workaround.  If code doesn't require it, get an
inspector to sign off.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Matt Hoppes 
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:27:40 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Cc: Justin Wilson 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

>That's what breakers are for - shorts.
>GFCIs are for quick blows for things like dropping something in
>water.   I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower
>building.
>
>On 3/16/12 11:11 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>> But what happens if something shorts and it's traced down to the fact
>> you removed the GFCI. I would not want to bet my business on it. I would
>> have an outlet hardwired into a nema box. That should satisfy code, but
>> I would check.
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)" > >
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List > >
>> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:00:39 -0700
>> To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>>
>> Yeah. Drop the GFCI.
>> If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him
>> he'll have to meet you at the site every time it goes down because
>> the GFCI technology is so worthless. It won't take but 2 trips and
>> he'll beg you to take them out!
>> And if you think it's bad now. Just wait till you have to put in arc
>> fault breakers everywhere. The whole house has to have them
>> nowadays. Can't even run a shop vac in my house if it's in one of
>> the rooms with an arc fault. Half my skill saws won't work etc.
>> Good ideas, both. Rotten overly sensitive implementation.
>> The market for used arc faults will be huge sooner than later. Every
>> homeowner with a screw driver will pull them all out and put in
>> normal breakers :-).
>> The NEC is getting to be worse than the dept. of ecology!
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Troy Settle 
>> *To:* wireless@wispa.org 
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM
>> *Subject:* [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>>
>> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our
>> towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to
>> put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have
>> been much worse).
>>
>> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from
>> happening without violating code?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>>
>> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>>
>> The Wired Road Authority
>>
>> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>>
>> Galax, VA 24333
>>
>> (276) 238-0049 (office)
>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Greg Ihnen]

Just replace it. It's probably failing. They're a pain when they start failing 
but when you get a good one they're fine.

Greg

On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Troy Settle wrote:

> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.  One of 
> them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to 
> push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>  
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without 
> violating code?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
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>   1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>   Galax, VA 24333
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Matt Hoppes]

That's what breakers are for - shorts.
GFCIs are for quick blows for things like dropping something in 
water.   I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower 
building.

On 3/16/12 11:11 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
> But what happens if something shorts and it's traced down to the fact
> you removed the GFCI. I would not want to bet my business on it. I would
> have an outlet hardwired into a nema box. That should satisfy code, but
> I would check.
>
> Justin
>
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)"  >
> Reply-To: WISPA General List  >
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:00:39 -0700
> To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>
> Yeah. Drop the GFCI.
> If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him
> he'll have to meet you at the site every time it goes down because
> the GFCI technology is so worthless. It won't take but 2 trips and
> he'll beg you to take them out!
> And if you think it's bad now. Just wait till you have to put in arc
> fault breakers everywhere. The whole house has to have them
> nowadays. Can't even run a shop vac in my house if it's in one of
> the rooms with an arc fault. Half my skill saws won't work etc.
> Good ideas, both. Rotten overly sensitive implementation.
> The market for used arc faults will be huge sooner than later. Every
> homeowner with a screw driver will pull them all out and put in
> normal breakers :-).
> The NEC is getting to be worse than the dept. of ecology!
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Troy Settle 
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org 
> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our
> towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to
> put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have
> been much worse).
>
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from
> happening without violating code?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>
> The Wired Road Authority
>
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>
> Galax, VA 24333
>
> (276) 238-0049 (office)
>
> (276) 237-3890 (cell)
>
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Justin Wilson]

But what happens if something shorts and it's traced down to the fact you
removed the GFCI.  I would not want to bet my business on it.  I would have
an outlet hardwired into a nema box.  That should satisfy code, but I would
check.

Justin

From:  "Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)" 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:00:39 -0700
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

> Yeah.  Drop the GFCI.
>  
> If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him he'll have to
> meet you at the site every time it goes down because the GFCI technology is so
> worthless.  It won't take but 2 trips and he'll beg you to take them out!
>  
> And if you think it's bad now.  Just wait till you have to put in arc fault
> breakers everywhere.  The whole house has to have them nowadays.  Can't even
> run a shop vac in my house if it's in one of the rooms with an arc fault.
> Half my skill saws won't work etc.
>  
> Good ideas, both.  Rotten overly sensitive implementation.
>  
> The market for used arc faults will be huge sooner than later.  Every
> homeowner with a screw driver will pull them all out and put in normal
> breakers :-).
>  
> The NEC is getting to be worse than the dept. of ecology!
>  
> marlon
>  
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>>  
>> From:  Troy  Settle 
>>  
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>>  
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM
>>  
>> Subject: [WISPA] Preventing stupid  outages
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of  our towers.  One
>> of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on  some 80 miles just
>> to push a button (yes, it could have been much  worse).
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from  happening without
>> violating code?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -- 
>>  
>>   Troy Settle, Network  Administrator
>>  
>>   The Wired Road Authority
>>  
>>   1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>>  
>>   Galax, VA 24333
>>  
>>   (276) 238-0049 (office)
>>  
>>   (276) 237-3890 (cell)
>>  
>>   tset...@thewiredroad.net
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900

[Steve Barnes]

Blair, how is this setup working?  Is this a real Option for future 
deployments?  I have a grain Leg that would be perfect 25 homes within a 2 mile 
radius, however, light to moderate woods at 1 Mile almost 100% around the Gran 
leg.  Backhaul not a problem from top but without 900 I cant get 1 mile and 
only 3 house.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Blair Davis
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900

opps!  V-pol on chain 1

On 3/13/2012 9:02 PM, Blair Davis wrote:
Reverse them.  Put the H-pol omni on chain 0 and the V-pol on chain.  Works 
much better.

Not sure why, but my field testing proved it.



On 3/13/2012 5:42 PM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
We are looking into a situation like this, using a 900 Vertical Omni with on 
chain 0 and a Horizontal Omni on chain 1
with about 10 foot pf spacing between the two. I too would like to know if 
anyone else has done this..

Ryan

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Jason Bailey 
mailto:j284...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
What I did was connect the omni to one port,connected a h-pol 9db panel and 
pointed it toward the majority of customers.

--- On Tue, 3/13/12, Eduardo 
mailto:edua...@webjogger.net>> wrote:

From: Eduardo mailto:edua...@webjogger.net>>
Subject: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 5:26 PM

I have some customers inside a 1 mile radius of a POP. We want to use a rocket 
M900 with an omni antenna and put a dummy load on the other RPSMA lead, since 
we couldn't find any MIMO 900MHz omni available.

Does anyone have any experience doing this?

Thanks,
Eduardo
Webjogger Internet Services
www.webjogger.net


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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)]

I like the digital loggers products a LOT better than dataprobe.

Never had a DL unit start turning it's self off when it's not supposed to.  I 
have had that with an iboot.

marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jay DeBoer 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages


  http://dataprobe.com/remote-reboot.html

  I've used some of their older 'iboots' havent' used their phone devices.



  On 3/16/2012 9:40, Victoria Proffer wrote: 
Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?



i.e. 

strip   pstn > my computer



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages



We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI 
outlets for my 
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically 
after a few mins..

Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes  
wrote:

You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
regulation before.

A few thoughts come to mind:

* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
keeps you from having an outage.

* Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.

If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?


On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> without violating code?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>
> The Wired Road Authority
>
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>
> Galax, VA 24333
>
> (276) 238-0049 (office)
>
> (276) 237-3890 (cell)
>
> tset...@thewiredroad.net
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)]

Yeah.  Drop the GFCI.

If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him he'll have to 
meet you at the site every time it goes down because the GFCI technology is so 
worthless.  It won't take but 2 trips and he'll beg you to take them out!

And if you think it's bad now.  Just wait till you have to put in arc fault 
breakers everywhere.  The whole house has to have them nowadays.  Can't even 
run a shop vac in my house if it's in one of the rooms with an arc fault.  Half 
my skill saws won't work etc.

Good ideas, both.  Rotten overly sensitive implementation.

The market for used arc faults will be huge sooner than later.  Every homeowner 
with a screw driver will pull them all out and put in normal breakers :-).

The NEC is getting to be worse than the dept. of ecology!

marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Troy Settle 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages


  Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.  One of 
them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to 
push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).

   

  Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without 
violating code?

   

  Thanks,

   

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1117 E. Stuart Dr.

Galax, VA 24333

(276) 238-0049 (office)

(276) 237-3890 (cell)

tset...@thewiredroad.net

   



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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Josh Luthman]

I thought $15k was including next day installation with your crew!  I
can supply the extra hard hat if you need it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> I'm not doing it... I just put a number out there so he could realize
> there is way more to it than posting a distance. :)
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/16/2012 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6
>> mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet!
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
>>>
>>> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
>>> offerings
>>> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to
>>> 1Gbps.
>>>
>>> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>>>
>>> Hop 1: 2 miles
>>> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
>>> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
>>> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
>>> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>>>
>>> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>>>
>>> Please call my Cell listed below.
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Victoria Proffer]

Oh, yeah ... I see, so than you have to reset the circuit, which requires a
flip.

 

Victoria Proffer

  STLWiMAX, LLC

314-974-5600

 

From: Chuck Hogg [mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:24 AM
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
Cc: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

 

I don't think you understand.  A GFCI outlet is a "mechanical" device.  You
can't reboot it.


Regards,
Chuck



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer
 wrote:

Can you set it on an auto-ping?

 

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC  

314-974-5600

 

From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

 

The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or
breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it's an auto reset
device.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Victoria Proffer
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

 

Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?

 

i.e. 

strip   pstn > my computer

 

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC  

314-974-5600

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

 

We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI
outlets for my 
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically
after a few mins..

Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
regulation before.

A few thoughts come to mind:

* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
keeps you from having an outage.

* Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.

If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?


On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> without violating code?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>
> The Wired Road Authority
>
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>
> Galax, VA 24333
>
> (276) 238-0049   (office)
>
> (276) 237-3890   (cell)
>
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>
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Travis Johnson]

I'm not doing it... I just put a number out there so he could realize 
there is way more to it than posting a distance. :)

Travis

On 3/16/2012 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6
> mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
>>
>> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
>> offerings
>> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to
>> 1Gbps.
>>
>> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>>
>> Hop 1: 2 miles
>> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
>> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
>> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
>> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>>
>> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>>
>> Please call my Cell listed below.
>>
>> --
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>> Network Operations - Plains.Net
>> Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Josh Luthman]

One of these

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=gfci+outlet&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=16532274097447588363&sa=X&ei=Ik5jT6H-Nubk0QHnkZWZCA&ved=0CIoBEPICMAI

Where did you one that auto resets, Ryan?

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
> I don't think you understand.  A GFCI outlet is a "mechanical" device.  You
> can't reboot it.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer
>  wrote:
>>
>> Can you set it on an auto-ping?
>>
>>
>>
>> Victoria Proffer
>>
>> STLWiMAX, LLC
>>
>> 314-974-5600
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM
>> To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>>
>>
>>
>> The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or
>> breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it’s an auto reset
>> device.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Victoria Proffer
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?
>>
>>
>>
>> i.e.
>>
>> strip   pstn > my computer
>>
>>
>>
>> Victoria Proffer
>>
>> STLWiMAX, LLC
>>
>> 314-974-5600
>>
>>
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>>
>>
>>
>> We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI
>> outlets for my
>> Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically
>> after a few mins..
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
>> regulation before.
>>
>> A few thoughts come to mind:
>>
>> * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
>> for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
>> keeps you from having an outage.
>>
>> * Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
>> your shack.    You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
>> have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.
>>
>> If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
>> plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
>> hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?
>>
>>
>> On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
>> > Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
>> > One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
>> > miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>> >
>> > Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
>> > without violating code?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>> >
>> > The Wired Road Authority
>> >
>> > 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>> >
>> > Galax, VA 24333
>> >
>> > (276) 238-0049 (office)
>> >
>> > (276) 237-3890 (cell)
>> >
>> > tset...@thewiredroad.net
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Chuck Hogg]

I don't think you understand.  A GFCI outlet is a "mechanical" device.  You
can't reboot it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer <
victo...@stlbroadband.com> wrote:

> Can you set it on an auto-ping?
>
> ** **
>
> Victoria Proffer
>
> STLWiMAX, LLC 
>
> 314-974-5600
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM
> *To:* victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>
> ** **
>
> The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or
> breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it’s an auto reset
> device.
>
> ** **
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Victoria Proffer
> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>
> ** **
>
> Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?
>
> ** **
>
> i.e. 
>
> strip   pstn > my computer
>
> ** **
>
> Victoria Proffer
>
> STLWiMAX, LLC 
>
> 314-974-5600
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering
> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>
> ** **
>
> We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI
> outlets for my
> Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically
> after a few mins..
>
> Ryan
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:
>
> You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
> regulation before.
>
> A few thoughts come to mind:
>
> * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
> for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
> keeps you from having an outage.
>
> * Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
> your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
> have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.
>
> If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
> plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
> hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?
>
>
> On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> > Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> > One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> > miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
> >
> > Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> > without violating code?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> >
> > Troy Settle, Network Administrator
> >
> > The Wired Road Authority
> >
> > 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
> >
> > Galax, VA 24333
> >
> > (276) 238-0049 (office)
> >
> > (276) 237-3890 (cell)
> >
> > tset...@thewiredroad.net
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Victoria Proffer]

Can you set it on an auto-ping?

 

Victoria Proffer

  STLWiMAX, LLC

314-974-5600

 

From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

 

The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or
breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it's an auto reset
device.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Victoria Proffer
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

 

Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?

 

i.e. 

strip   pstn > my computer

 

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC  

314-974-5600

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

 

We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI
outlets for my 
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically
after a few mins..

Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
regulation before.

A few thoughts come to mind:

* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
keeps you from having an outage.

* Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.

If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?


On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> without violating code?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>
> The Wired Road Authority
>
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>
> Galax, VA 24333
>
> (276) 238-0049   (office)
>
> (276) 237-3890   (cell)
>
> tset...@thewiredroad.net
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Josh Luthman]

You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6
mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop.
>
> Travis
>
>
>
> On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
>
> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
> offerings
> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to
> 1Gbps.
>
> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>
> Hop 1: 2 miles
> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>
> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>
> Please call my Cell listed below.
>
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Travis Johnson]

Hi,

Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop.

Travis


On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their 
offerings
for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps 
to 1Gbps.


I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.

Hop 1: 2 miles
Hop 2: 2.8 miles
Hop 3: 5.6 miles
Hop 4: 2.6 miles
Hop 5: 2.6 miles

Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8

Please call my Cell listed below.

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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Josh Luthman]

Vertical heights.  Coordinates.  Wind load restriction.  Rough budget.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

> Like what? :)
>
> Ryan
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>>
>>> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
>>> offerings
>>> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to
>>> 1Gbps.
>>>
>>> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>>>
>>> Hop 1: 2 miles
>>> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
>>> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
>>> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
>>> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>>>
>>> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>>>
>>> Please call my Cell listed below.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ryan Ghering
>>> Network Operations - Plains.Net
>>> Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Matt Hoppes]

Coordinates and tower heights would be a good start.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 3/16/12 10:03 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
> Like what? :)
>
> Ryan
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman
> mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>
> Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  > wrote:
>
> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of
> their offerings
> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of
> 100Mbps to 1Gbps.
>
> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>
> Hop 1: 2 miles
> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>
> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>
> Please call my Cell listed below.
>
> --
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> Office: 970-848-0475  - Cell: 970-630-1879
> 
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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Ryan Ghering]

Like what? :)

Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:
>
>> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
>> offerings
>> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to
>> 1Gbps.
>>
>> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>>
>> Hop 1: 2 miles
>> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
>> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
>> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
>> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>>
>> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>>
>> Please call my Cell listed below.
>>
>> --
>> Ryan Ghering
>> Network Operations - Plains.Net
>> Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Brian Webster]

The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or
breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it's an auto reset
device.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Victoria Proffer
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

 

Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?

 

i.e. 

strip   pstn > my computer

 

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC  

314-974-5600

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

 

We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI
outlets for my 
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically
after a few mins..

Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
regulation before.

A few thoughts come to mind:

* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
keeps you from having an outage.

* Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.

If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?


On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> without violating code?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>
> The Wired Road Authority
>
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>
> Galax, VA 24333
>
> (276) 238-0049   (office)
>
> (276) 237-3890   (cell)
>
> tset...@thewiredroad.net
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Josh Luthman]

Need to share a lot more information for that quote.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, "Ryan Ghering"  wrote:

> I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
> offerings
> for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to
> 1Gbps.
>
> I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
>
> Hop 1: 2 miles
> Hop 2: 2.8 miles
> Hop 3: 5.6 miles
> Hop 4: 2.6 miles
> Hop 5: 2.6 miles
>
> Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8
>
> Please call my Cell listed below.
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[WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

[Ryan Ghering]

I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
offerings
for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to
1Gbps.

I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.

Hop 1: 2 miles
Hop 2: 2.8 miles
Hop 3: 5.6 miles
Hop 4: 2.6 miles
Hop 5: 2.6 miles

Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8

Please call my Cell listed below.

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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Jay DeBoer]

http://dataprobe.com/remote-reboot.html

I've used some of their older 'iboots' havent' used their phone devices.



On 3/16/2012 9:40, Victoria Proffer wrote:


Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?

i.e.

strip   pstn > my computer

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC 

314-974-5600

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering

*Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting 
GFCI outlets for my
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset 
automatically after a few mins..


Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes 
mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>> wrote:


You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
regulation before.

A few thoughts come to mind:

* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
keeps you from having an outage.

* Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.

If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?


On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> without violating code?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>
> The Wired Road Authority
>
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>
> Galax, VA 24333
>
> (276) 238-0049  (office)
>
> (276) 237-3890  (cell)
>
> tset...@thewiredroad.net 
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Victoria Proffer]

Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?

 

i.e. 

strip   pstn > my computer

 

Victoria Proffer

  STLWiMAX, LLC

314-974-5600

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

 

We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI
outlets for my 
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically
after a few mins..

Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
regulation before.

A few thoughts come to mind:

* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
keeps you from having an outage.

* Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.

If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?


On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> without violating code?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>
> The Wired Road Authority
>
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>
> Galax, VA 24333
>
> (276) 238-0049   (office)
>
> (276) 237-3890   (cell)
>
> tset...@thewiredroad.net
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900

[Stuart Pierce]

You could always use a LocoM900 with the omni, but don't expect 
to go very far through trees but better than 2.4.

-- Original Message --
From: Eduardo 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:26:14 -0400

>I have some customers inside a 1 mile radius of a POP. We want 
to use a rocket M900 with an omni antenna and put a dummy load 
on the other RPSMA lead, since we couldn't find any MIMO 900MHz 
omni available.
>
>Does anyone have any experience doing this?
>
>Thanks,
>Eduardo
>Webjogger Internet Services
>www.webjogger.net
>
>
>
 





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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Ryan Ghering]

We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI
outlets for my
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically
after a few mins..

Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
> regulation before.
>
> A few thoughts come to mind:
>
> * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
> for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
> keeps you from having an outage.
>
> * Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
> your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
> have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.
>
> If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
> plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
> hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?
>
> On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> > Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> > One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> > miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
> >
> > Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> > without violating code?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> >
> > Troy Settle, Network Administrator
> >
> > The Wired Road Authority
> >
> > 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
> >
> > Galax, VA 24333
> >
> > (276) 238-0049 (office)
> >
> > (276) 237-3890 (cell)
> >
> > tset...@thewiredroad.net
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Matt Hoppes]

You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that 
regulation before.

A few thoughts come to mind:

* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page 
for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it 
keeps you from having an outage.

* Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside 
your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't 
have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.

If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just 
plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a 
hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?

On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> without violating code?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>
> The Wired Road Authority
>
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>
> Galax, VA 24333
>
> (276) 238-0049 (office)
>
> (276) 237-3890 (cell)
>
> tset...@thewiredroad.net
>
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[WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Troy Settle]

Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.  One
of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just
to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).

 

Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without
violating code?

 

Thanks,

 

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  The Wired Road Authority

  1117 E. Stuart Dr.

  Galax, VA 24333

  (276) 238-0049 (office)

  (276) 237-3890 (cell)

  tset...@thewiredroad.net

 

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