Re: [Zope-dev] Error message traceback

2001-02-22 Thread Erik Enge

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

> how do I turn off this annoying traceback that is always printed out when an 
> error occurrs? 

Start Zope with out the debugging switch; "-D".  Look in your z2.py file
for expalation of it, and in start (or start.bat on Windows?) to remove
it.


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[Zope-dev] What's the use of defining permissions for ZClass definition

2001-02-22 Thread Dirksen

Hi,

ZClass definition has a 'Define Permissions' tab. Yet any modification there doesn't 
seem
to affect the ZClass instance's security profile at all. What's the use of that?

Cheers
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[Zope-dev] Error message traceback

2001-02-22 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

Hi there,

how do I turn off this annoying traceback that is always printed out when an 
error occurrs? 

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Re: [Zope-dev] Setting vars in expression eval() namespace

2001-02-22 Thread Dieter Maurer

Julio Maia writes:
 > I'm trying to create a tag to evaluate the expression passed to it, adding in the 
 >expression eval namespace a variable that contains the result of dtml processing of 
 >the tag's block. For instance, the following construct:
 > 
 > 
 >some text 
 > 
 > 
 > would invoke the expression "foo(a=1)" with a variable named 'block' set to 'some 
 >text 3' in the expression's namespace (btw, is it possible to achieve this using 
 >regular dtml?).
What a construction! I do not like it.

 > However, I couldn't find a way to set a variable in the namespace used in the 
 >evaluation of the expression. I've tried to insert an entry in the mappings passed to 
 >the expression eval() method as follows:
Push a new mapping onto the namespace (with its "push" method).
Do not forget, to pop it after your tag.


Dieter

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog Lazy Results

2001-02-22 Thread Dieter Maurer

Tres Seaver writes:
 > 'getObject' forces you to "wake up" the catalogued object;
 > in a large enough result set, the price is pretty punitive,
 > compared to serving the results as cached metadata.
You can batch large result sets: "getObject" would just be
applied to the objects in the batch.

The objects are cached, too (ZODB cache).



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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog madness. (Must log in as emergencyuser.)

2001-02-22 Thread Chris McDonough

You can get the object, but you can't do anything with it.

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> Chris McDonough wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure why this isn't in 2.3.1b1, but yes, the code in getobject
was
> > changed to use unrestrictedTraverse for this very reason.
>
> Does that open up a security hole?
>
> Can I get to an object via the getobject method of ZCatalog that I can't
get to otherwise?
>
> I thought that was the reason it was changed to restrictedTraverse in the
first place.
>
>
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Re: [Zope-dev] initializing objects in ZPatterns

2001-02-22 Thread Steve Alexander

Christian Scholz wrote:

>
> I've now tried
> 
> WHEN OBJECT ADDED CALL
>   
>self.propertysheets.data.manage_changeProperties(company_address=self.company_address)
> 
> which gives me some Unauthorized error on the method call.

Give your skinscript an appropriate proxy role.

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Re: [Zope-dev] initializing objects in ZPatterns

2001-02-22 Thread Christian Scholz

Hi!

> To get company_address stored, you can probably do something like:
> 
>   your_object.manage_changeProperties(company_address=your_object.company_address)
> 
> or possibly your_object.propertysheets.NameOfSheet.manage_changeProperties...
> depending on what kind of object you're using.

I've now tried

WHEN OBJECT ADDED CALL
  
self.propertysheets.data.manage_changeProperties(company_address=self.company_address)

which gives me some Unauthorized error on the method call.

(when doing it manually in some dtml method after newItem() it works ok, though.
And I am logged in as Manager..)

Sometimes I wish Zope would print more about the details of such an response,
e.g. which permissions might be missing..

Anyway, I will keep experimenting with it (also tried to subclass directly from
DataSkin, to override some method which create the company address) but then
I noticed that it always needs to be a ZClass (except I would also implement my
own Rack, I guess..)
Wonder when the basic app will be running.. ;-)

ok, nice evening everybody! :)

-- christian


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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog madness. (Must log in as emergencyuser.)

2001-02-22 Thread Steve Alexander

Chris McDonough wrote:

> I'm not sure why this isn't in 2.3.1b1, but yes, the code in getobject was
> changed to use unrestrictedTraverse for this very reason.

Does that open up a security hole?

Can I get to an object via the getobject method of ZCatalog that I can't get to 
otherwise?

I thought that was the reason it was changed to restrictedTraverse in the first place.


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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog stuff

2001-02-22 Thread Andy McKay

> Well hell, what's good enough for Perl is good enough
> for... *slaps self silly*
> 
> C'mon, are you really seriously gonna back up
> reasoning for Zope features by quoting Larry Wall???
> 8^)

Why not ? (sometimes) he makes sense ;) 

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog madness. (Must log in as emergencyuser.)

2001-02-22 Thread Chris McDonough

I'm not sure why this isn't in 2.3.1b1, but yes, the code in getobject was
changed to use unrestrictedTraverse for this very reason.

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Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 10:33 AM
Subject: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog madness. (Must log in as emergencyuser.)


> Right.
>
> This is the traceback I get, after doing a search (searchResults) - which
> goes fine by teh way - and then trying to do an
> getobject(x.data_record_id_) as a non-emergencyuser user get up an login
> box and press escape:
>
> Unauthorized
>
> Sorry, a Zope error occurred.
>
> Traceback (innermost last):
>   File
> /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
> 222, in publish_module
>   File
> /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
> 187, in publish
>   File
> /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
> 171, in publish
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py,
> line 160, in mapply
> (Object: candidate_search)
>   File
> /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
> 112, in call_object
> (Object: candidate_search)
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py,
> line 189, in __call__
> (Object: candidate_search)
>   File
>
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py,
> line 538, in __call__
> (Object: candidate_search)
>   File
> /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py,
> line 702, in renderwob
> (Object: candidateEngine(REQUEST))
> Unauthorized: 0
>
> Right.  Your average unauthorized I should think.  Next, if I log in as
> the emergencyuser, this is what I get:
>
> Traceback (innermost last):
>   File
> /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
> 222, in publish_module
>   File
> /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
> 187, in publish
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py,
> line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook
> (Object: Traversable)
>   File
> /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
> 171, in publish
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py,
> line 160, in mapply
> (Object: candidate_search)
>   File
> /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
> 112, in call_object
> (Object: candidate_search)
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py,
> line 189, in __call__
> (Object: candidate_search)
>   File
>
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py,
> line 538, in __call__
> (Object: candidate_search)
>   File
> /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py,
> line 711, in renderwob
> (Object: candidateEngine(REQUEST))
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/OFS/Traversable.py,
> line 107, in absolute_url
> (Object: CatalogAware)
> AttributeError: (see above)
>
> Error Type: AttributeError
> Error Value: 'string' object has no attribute 'get'
>
>
> The get thing is probably from me trying to call absolute_url on the
> objects it returns.  Calling atributes works, though.
>
> Strange.  Doing getobject as a non-emergencyuser doesn't owrk, and when I
> have logged in the objects I get seems to be somewhat fubar.
>
> Help is greatly appretiated.
>
> (PS.  I seem to recall a checkin in hte CVS about unrestrictedTraverse in
> one of the files belonging to the Catalog, could this has something to do
> with it?)
>
> Zope 2.3.1b1 on Linux.
>
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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog stuff

2001-02-22 Thread Casey Duncan

--- Andy McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I disagree but it's not worth arguing about.
> However, the people who pay
> my
> > salary feel that way which means I care ;-)
> 
> Ive been taking the Larry Wall approach to this when
> people tell me the
> correct way to do things:
> 
> "A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done
> before your boss fires
> you."
> 
[snip]

Well hell, what's good enough for Perl is good enough
for... *slaps self silly*

C'mon, are you really seriously gonna back up
reasoning for Zope features by quoting Larry Wall???
8^)


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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog stuff

2001-02-22 Thread Andy McKay

> I disagree but it's not worth arguing about. However, the people who pay
my
> salary feel that way which means I care ;-)

Ive been taking the Larry Wall approach to this when people tell me the
correct way to do things:

"A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done before your boss fires
you."

The simple fact is many non-technical users dont give a hoot about the
underlying python reasons or computer science, its just common to see a
case-insensitive sort.

And yes it can be done in ZCatalog and dtml-in with a little fiddling.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Storing part of an object on the file system

2001-02-22 Thread Andy McKay

> That is, they would require some sort of shared network drive for all 
> ZEO clients to functions correctly.

Im no expert on ZEO, but I believe that is the case.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Storing part of an object on the file system

2001-02-22 Thread John D. Heintz

Andy,

I'm just checking an assumption that I'm making about the Ext* Products:
They do no work out of the box with ZEO, right?

That is, they would require some sort of shared network drive for all 
ZEO clients to functions correctly.

Thanks,
John

Andy McKay wrote:

> Actually just follow up I realised I never told you how I solved this
> problem. I compacted all data types into File, Image or DTML Document. Since
> I had ExtFile and ExtImage I chopped those into one class called it
> ExtThing, and the wrote classes off it. ExtFile and ExtImage I cut and
> pasted (not complete) for the most part.
> 
> Then I wrote a class that called ExtHTML that is a DTML Document that
> overrides the munge() and read() read functions. Instead I passed those onto
> ExtThing. And there you go a DTML Document that has the main body stored on
> the local file system.
> 
> Thanks McGregor.
> --
>   Andy McKay.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andy McKay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 4:15 PM
> Subject: [Zope-dev] Storing part of an object on the file system
> 
> 
> 
>> Ok whack idea #34... Well sort of, the idea was sparked by ExtFile (yes
> 
> its
> 
>> all his fault honest). We want to have files on the file system for many
>> reasons which I won't go into now, just take it for granted. But we also
>> want some of the objects information to be in the standard data.fs, so we
>> can catalog it use acquisition provide a simple interface to it and so on.
>> So far you are saying thats ExtFile and you are right.
>> 
>> But we want to extend it to any object anywhere, instead of storing the
> 
> data
> 
>> attribute in the object and pickling it in the ZODB I want to be able to
>> store the data attribute on the file system. This gives us loads of
>> advantages we also thought this would be extremely useful to other people.
>> We've bounced around ideas on how to do this and here the only two so far:
>> 
>> -we could overload the data attribute with a class that on Pickling
> 
> into
> 
>> the ZODB instead writes it on to the filesystem...
>> -we could in the ZODB put a hack to say if pickling something with so
>> and so attribute do this instead...
>> 
>> I feel like this something I should just not be doing, but it would be
> 
> great
> 
>> if I could get it work...
>> 
>> --
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>> 
>> 
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Re: [Zope-dev] initializing objects in ZPatterns

2001-02-22 Thread Christian Scholz

Hi!

> > I just encountered another problem with ZPatterns (well not exactly with ZPatterns
> > but the way I use it.. ;-)
> > 
> > I have some Specialist with a normal rack which stores data persistently in the 
>ZODB.
> > Everytime I am creating a new object I want to create an object of another 
>specialist
> > on the fly and store it's id inside my first object.
> > 
> > Thus I have setup a SkinScript with the following content:
> > 
> > 
> >   INITIALIZE OBJECT WITH company_address=addresses.createAddress()
> > 
> >   WITH addresses.getItem(self.company_address) COMPUTE company_addr=RESULT
> > 
> >   STORE company_address IN SELF
> > 
> > The createAddress is called actually and it returns the ID of the new object
> > (thus the object is created). Unfortunately the id is not stored inside
> > company_address. After reading the new object again this value is still empty
> > (and thus also no address object is return by the address specialist). Same happens
> > when just using some dummy property and filling it with a fixed string. This
> > also disappears..
> 
> To get company_address stored, you can probably do something like:
> 
>   your_object.manage_changeProperties(company_address=your_object.company_address)
> 
> or possibly your_object.propertysheets.NameOfSheet.manage_changeProperties...
> depending on what kind of object you're using.
> 
> You could have this as a trigger:
> 
> WHEN OBJECT ADDED CALL
>   self.manage_changeProperties(company_address=self.company_address)

Well, the first one seems to work, but the SkinScript trigger does not unfortunately.
So I will try to incorporate this into my other code (which is a bit more tricky
as I automated all the property handling stuff). But thanks anyway!

> As for whether it is a bug, the implementation of the INITALIZE clause just puts
> its attributes directly into the DataSkin's attribute-cache. It appears to be
> designed for the behaviour that you see.
> 
> You could get the behaviour that you want by making the implementation actually
> set the attributes instead. I'm not sure what the other implications of doing
> that are, though.
> 
> If you're interested, the code is in
> 
>   lib/python/Products/ZPatterns/SkinScript/Components.py
> about line 71.

ok, thanks, will have a look at that.

cheers,
  Christian


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[Zope-dev] ZCatalog madness. (Must log in as emergencyuser.)

2001-02-22 Thread Erik Enge

Right.

This is the traceback I get, after doing a search (searchResults) - which
goes fine by teh way - and then trying to do an
getobject(x.data_record_id_) as a non-emergencyuser user get up an login
box and press escape:

Unauthorized

Sorry, a Zope error occurred.

Traceback (innermost last):
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
222, in publish_module
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
187, in publish
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
171, in publish
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py,
line 160, in mapply
(Object: candidate_search)
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
112, in call_object
(Object: candidate_search)
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py,
line 189, in __call__
(Object: candidate_search)
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py,
line 538, in __call__
(Object: candidate_search)
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py,
line 702, in renderwob
(Object: candidateEngine(REQUEST))
Unauthorized: 0

Right.  Your average unauthorized I should think.  Next, if I log in as
the emergencyuser, this is what I get: 

Traceback (innermost last):
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
222, in publish_module
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
187, in publish
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py,
line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook
(Object: Traversable)
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
171, in publish
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py,
line 160, in mapply
(Object: candidate_search)
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
112, in call_object
(Object: candidate_search)
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py,
line 189, in __call__
(Object: candidate_search)
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py,
line 538, in __call__
(Object: candidate_search)
  File
/usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py,
line 711, in renderwob
(Object: candidateEngine(REQUEST))
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.1b1-linux2-x86/lib/python/OFS/Traversable.py,
line 107, in absolute_url
(Object: CatalogAware)
AttributeError: (see above)

Error Type: AttributeError
Error Value: 'string' object has no attribute 'get'


The get thing is probably from me trying to call absolute_url on the
objects it returns.  Calling atributes works, though.

Strange.  Doing getobject as a non-emergencyuser doesn't owrk, and when I
have logged in the objects I get seems to be somewhat fubar.

Help is greatly appretiated. 

(PS.  I seem to recall a checkin in hte CVS about unrestrictedTraverse in
one of the files belonging to the Catalog, could this has something to do
with it?)

Zope 2.3.1b1 on Linux.


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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog stuff

2001-02-22 Thread Tres Seaver

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Chris Withers wrote:

> Tres Seaver wrote:
> > 
> > Chris, this necrohippophilic sadism has to stop!
> 
> Erm? I think my education is lacking... what does that mean? :-S

"Beating a dead horse". :)

> > "most humeans"
> > does *not* map to "English speakers who prefer case-insensitive
> > collation."
> 
> I disagree but it's not worth arguing about. However, the
> people who pay my salary feel that way which means I care ;-)
> 
> > case-insensitive search / sort, then create a method on your
> > object which does the approprate case-flattening, and index that
> > instead of the "real" attribute.
> 
> Thanks, I always forget the flexibility of ZCatalog :-) That
> said, how hard would it be to alter ZCatalog so you could
> override the comparison function it uses? It feels like a
> ,cmp=cmp argument to the added search index consructor, then a
> self._cmp = cmp in the constructor, followed by a query and
> replace on cmp with self._cmp in the search index source. But I
> might be completely wrong :-(

The comparison function is built into the structure the  of the
index, and is not swappable "on-the-fly".  When the catalog
allows "drop-in" indexes, then you could define a
CaseInsensitifeUnIndex class which implemented the semantics you
prefer (but I still think it should be done at the application
level, as I described above).
 
> Apart from that, any ideas how I'd search for a record where
> the indexed attribute is blank or the secondary sort stuff?

"Trust the source, Luke!" is the best answer I've got.

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog stuff

2001-02-22 Thread Steve Alexander

Chris Withers wrote:

> Tres Seaver wrote:
> 
>> Chris, this necrohippophilic sadism has to stop!
> 
> 
> Erm? I think my education is lacking... what does that mean? :-S

necrohippo philic sadism
dead-horse-loving act of deliberate harm upon

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog stuff

2001-02-22 Thread Chris Withers

Tres Seaver wrote:
> 
> Chris, this necrohippophilic sadism has to stop!

Erm? I think my education is lacking... what does that mean? :-S

> "most humeans"
> does *not* map to "English speakers who prefer case-insensitive
> collation."

I disagree but it's not worth arguing about. However, the people who pay my
salary feel that way which means I care ;-)

> case-insensitive search / sort, then create a method on your
> object which does the approprate case-flattening, and index that
> instead of the "real" attribute.

Thanks, I always forget the flexibility of ZCatalog :-) That said, how hard
would it be to alter ZCatalog so you could override the comparison function it
uses? It feels like a ,cmp=cmp argument to the added search index consructor,
then a self._cmp = cmp in the constructor, followed by a query and replace on
cmp with self._cmp in the search index source. But I might be completely wrong
:-(

Apart from that, any ideas how I'd search for a record where the indexed
attribute is blank or the secondary sort stuff?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog stuff

2001-02-22 Thread Tres Seaver

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Chris Withers wrote:

> I think this is _exactly_ what I've been looking for for ages,
> especially, I'm guessing, that if you don't specify 'used'
> then:

No, 'used' has *no* effect on the processing of the search;  it
exists only to allow keeping track of the indices used in
searches across catalogs.

> Okay while I'm here, one final one.
> 
> We have the sort_on and sort_order parameters, they'll return
> stuff ordered like:
> 
> Aardvark
> Badger
> anteater
> bird
> 
> Whereas most humans would think the following would be more
> readable:
> 
> Aardvark
> anteater
> Badger
> bird

Chris, this necrohippophilic sadism has to stop!  "most humeans"
does *not* map to "English speakers who prefer case-insensitive
collation."

Case-flattening is a lossy operation;  there is *no way* you are
going to get it by default.  If you want the catalog to do a
case-insensitive search / sort, then create a method on your
object which does the approprate case-flattening, and index that
instead of the "real" attribute.

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog Lazy Results

2001-02-22 Thread Tres Seaver

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Johan Carlsson wrote:

> > Casey Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yes, you always get all the meta-data. However, does
> > > anyone know how the "used" argument of
> > > ZCatalog.searchResults works, or why you would use it?
> > 
> > 'used' tells you the names of the indexes which actually
> > participated in the search (as distinct from those you
> > asked for).
> 
> What does this meen?
> 
> Example, What's the different between:
> 
>   searchResults(used=(index1,index2), index1='kalle', index2='kaviar')
> 
> and;
> 
>   searchResults(index1='kalle', index2='kaviar')

There is no practical difference, unless you are "federating"
queries across multiple catalogs;  the 'used' parameter is there
solely to accumulate a record of the indices used in the search.
 
> (Are used supposed to be a tuple?)

It should be something supporting the mapping interface.  Here is
how it is used (from 'lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/Catalog.py'):

  if used is None: used={}
  for i in self.indexes.keys():
  try:
  index = self.indexes[i].__of__(self)
  if hasattr(index,'_apply_index'):
  r=index._apply_index(args)
  if r is not None:
  r, u = r
  for name in u:
  used[name]=1

In other words, "Nothing to see here;  move along." :)

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[Zope-dev] Java and Zope

2001-02-22 Thread Phil Harris

Hi all,

Over the last few weeks there have been a few questions asked as to whether
Zope can play with Java or not.

Until now the answer has been a resounding 'NO'.

Until now that is,  I've done some rudimentary tests, NT4 + Zope2.3.0 +
JDK1.3, that indicate to the contrary.

If you're interested take a look at
http://media-1.ml.uwcm.ac.uk:12380/index_html.  This page is calling an
external method that imports (in the Python sense) the java.lang.String
module, and then does a dir() on that module.

Theere are still some issues to iron out, the JVM needs to be created on the
python thread that is currently executing, this sometimes goes awry and the
jvm is not available for the current thread.  This is my focus at the
moment.

Nothing earth shattering right now, but things will get more interesting.

Thing is I'm in no way a Java bod, and can't really test this properly,
anyone up for testing it?

I have the stuff you need, win32 binaries etc, if you want to play Java +
Zope stuff.

Thanks for listening

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[Zope-dev] ZCatalog stuff

2001-02-22 Thread Chris Withers

Johan Carlsson wrote:
> 
> > Casey Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, you always get all the meta-data. However, does
> > > anyone know how the "used" argument of
> > > ZCatalog.searchResults works, or why you would use it?
> >
> > 'used' tells you the names of the indexes which actually
> > participated in the search (as distinct from those you
> > asked for).
> 
> What does this meen?
> 
> Example, What's the different between:
> 
>   searchResults(used=(index1,index2), index1='kalle', index2='kaviar')
> 
> and;

Damn, where's this documented?
I think this is _exactly_ what I've been looking for for ages, especially, I'm
guessing, that if you don't specify 'used' then:

1. It's assumed all indexes take part in the search
2. All parameters that aren't supplied are assumed to be blank, and therefore
will match anything?

Am I on the right track?

Furthermore, is there any way I can tell ZCatalog that nothing means nothing,
not everything?

For example, if I do searchResults(age=''), I want only records with a blank age
record, _not_ all the records.

Okay while I'm here, one final one.

We have the sort_on and sort_order parameters, they'll return stuff ordered
like:

Aardvark
Badger
anteater
bird

Whereas most humans would think the following would be more readable:

Aardvark
anteater
Badger
bird

I guess ZCatalog uses cmp somewhere along the line. IS there any way I can pass
in a different cmp function for a given index?

Hah, just thought of one last one ;-)

Okay, we have sort_on, which lets me sort on one index. Is there any way I can
provide a secondary sort key?

something like
searchResults(age='',sort_on=(('lastname','normal'),('firstname','normal'),'('salary','reverse')))
would eb a dream.

Wow, that turned into a ZCatalog wishlist... any ideas if any of it is
available, and if not, hwo hard it would be to achieve?

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope-dev] ZClass -> Python Product

2001-02-22 Thread Tom Deprez

Hi,

Is there a way to convert a running application with ZClass to Python
Products without loosing data?

Even better :

Is there a tool which converts a ZClass in a rough Python Product Code? So
that we've already the python source code and only have to make to code
cleaner?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog Lazy Results

2001-02-22 Thread Johan Carlsson

> Casey Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, you always get all the meta-data. However, does
> > anyone know how the "used" argument of
> > ZCatalog.searchResults works, or why you would use it?
> 
> 'used' tells you the names of the indexes which actually
> participated in the search (as distinct from those you
> asked for).

What does this meen?

Example, What's the different between:

  searchResults(used=(index1,index2), index1='kalle', index2='kaviar')

and;

  searchResults(index1='kalle', index2='kaviar')


(Are used supposed to be a tuple?)

TIA,
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[Zope-dev] Bugs in Zope Membership Component 0.8.0b1

2001-02-22 Thread Dirksen

Hi Bill,

All PythonScripts in ZMC 0.8.0b1 look like a direct port from Python Methods, so I 
found
some bugs due to the incompatibility between these two version of scripts.

1. In 'passwordForm', 'import string' should be added.
2. In 'passwordPolicy', 'self' should be ommited in the parameters list.
3. 'register', I think, should be proxy to 'Manager', like the original version.

There's another bug: anonymous user can access account's manageMe method! Say if 
there's
an account 'dummy', anyone can open 'www.dumy.com/test/acl_users/dummy/manageMe'. I 
think
the permission to view 'manageMe' should be hooked up to that of viewing management
screen. I see that you have made some special arrangements in the 'Define Permission' 
tab
of 'Portal Member' ZClass definition, but that doesn't seem to protect its instance,
which is a puzzle to me: what's the use to define permissions in ZClass definition or
products?

Cheers,
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Re: [Zope-dev] Acquisition muddleness solved!

2001-02-22 Thread richard

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A simple enough scenario:
> Python 1.5.2 (#1, Sep 30 2000, 18:08:36)  [GCC 2.95.3 19991030
> (prerelease)] on linux-i386
> Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam
> >>> import ExtensionClass
> >>> import Acquisition
> >>> class A(ExtensionClass.Base):
> ...  def foo(self):
> ...   print repr(self), type(self)
> ...
> >>> class B(Acquisition.Implicit):
> ...  pass
> ...
> >>> a=A()
> >>> print repr(a), type(a)
>  
> >>> a.b=B()
> >>> print repr(a.b), type(a.b)
>   Acquisition.ImplicitAcquirerWrapper at 401460e0>
> >>> a.b.foo()
>  
> 
> Now, I would've expected to see a.b.foo() print out exactly the same
> information as repr(a.b), type(a.b). In fact, I even scrounged up the
> Acquisition doc (it really isn't that easy to find these days...) and I can
> quote from it in support of what I believe should be happening:
> 
> '''
>   Acquisition and methods
> 
> Python methods of objects that support acquisition can use
> acquired attributes as in the 'report' method of the first example
> above.  When a Python method is called on an object that is
> wrapped by an acquisition wrapper, the wrapper is passed to the
> method as the first argument.  This rule also applies to
> user-defined method types and to C methods defined in pure mix-in
> classes.
> '''

OK, I figured it out. The method foo requires an instance of A to work, and
a.b isn't one, but a is.

Makes life a little more difficult, but at least we know how it works now.


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[Zope-dev] usability bug concerning database connections?

2001-02-22 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner

Hi,

regarding Zope 2.3.0:

I removed a database connection from a top level
(there is a second one).

All my ZSQL methods were connected to the first one.
The user interface now looks like if the second one is
connected (it is shown as Connection Id). This is confusing.

It would be better to have some indicator for the broken
status of the ZSQL methods.

Just a small bug report :-)

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[Zope-dev] usability bug concerning database connections?

2001-02-22 Thread Jim Penny

> regarding Zope 2.3.0:

> I removed a database connection from a top level
> (there is a second one).

> All my ZSQL methods were connected to the first one.
> The user interface now looks like if the second one is
> connected (it is shown as Connection Id). This is confusing.

> It would be better to have some indicator for the broken
> status of the ZSQL methods.

> Just a small bug report :-)

> Jan

Seconded, and it would be really nice to be able to search
by connection ID!  Then if you were changing DA's, you could
find the ones that needed to be changed rather than waiting
for breakage.

Jim Penny


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Re: [Zope-dev] FTP error messages

2001-02-22 Thread richard

Chris Withers wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I've now added the ability to set the message to be sent back to the FTP
> > client on FTPResponse. The patch is attached. We'll be using it and I hope
> > that it, or something similar, makes it into the 2.3.1.
> 
> Please, please, please put this in the collector :-)
> 
> I'd always assumed those messages couldn't be changed on the client side, but if
> your patch works, it'd make FTP _SO_ much more usuable...

   Yeah, we've already found it invaluable. Will submit to collector.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Setting vars in expression eval() namespace

2001-02-22 Thread Steve Alexander

Julio Maia wrote:

> 
> This is not going to be handy once the block is composed by a large dtml
> block. I wonder if dtml-var shouldn't support the syntax I've described
> above.

I suggest instead using a PythonScript, and using the DTML class that you
can import from the Products.PythonScripts.standard module.

You can use this to render DTML on the fly, as you wish.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Setting vars in expression eval() namespace

2001-02-22 Thread Julio Maia

On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:24:57PM +, Steve Alexander wrote:
> Julio Maia wrote:
> 
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > I'm trying to create a tag to evaluate the expression passed to it,
>  > adding in the expression eval namespace a variable that contains
>  > the result of dtml processing of the tag's block. For instance, the
>  >  following construct:
>  >
>  > 
>  >   some text 
>  > 
>  >
>  > would invoke the expression "foo(a=1)" with a variable named 'block'
>  >  set to 'some text 3' in the expression's namespace (btw, is it
>  > possible to achieve this using regular dtml?).
> 
> This may be too simple example, but how about:
> 
> 

This is not going to be handy once the block is composed by a large dtml block. I 
wonder if dtml-var shouldn't support the syntax I've described above.

> 
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> 

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Re: [Zope-dev] initializing objects in ZPatterns

2001-02-22 Thread Steve Alexander

Christian Scholz wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I just encountered another problem with ZPatterns (well not exactly with ZPatterns
> but the way I use it.. ;-)
> 
> I have some Specialist with a normal rack which stores data persistently in the ZODB.
> Everytime I am creating a new object I want to create an object of another specialist
> on the fly and store it's id inside my first object.
> 
> Thus I have setup a SkinScript with the following content:
> 
> 
>   INITIALIZE OBJECT WITH company_address=addresses.createAddress()
> 
>   WITH addresses.getItem(self.company_address) COMPUTE company_addr=RESULT
> 
>   STORE company_address IN SELF
> 
> The createAddress is called actually and it returns the ID of the new object
> (thus the object is created). Unfortunately the id is not stored inside
> company_address. After reading the new object again this value is still empty
> (and thus also no address object is return by the address specialist). Same happens
> when just using some dummy property and filling it with a fixed string. This
> also disappears..

To get company_address stored, you can probably do something like:

  your_object.manage_changeProperties(company_address=your_object.company_address)

or possibly your_object.propertysheets.NameOfSheet.manage_changeProperties...
depending on what kind of object you're using.

You could have this as a trigger:

WHEN OBJECT ADDED CALL
  self.manage_changeProperties(company_address=self.company_address)


As for whether it is a bug, the implementation of the INITALIZE clause just puts
its attributes directly into the DataSkin's attribute-cache. It appears to be
designed for the behaviour that you see.

You could get the behaviour that you want by making the implementation actually
set the attributes instead. I'm not sure what the other implications of doing
that are, though.

If you're interested, the code is in

  lib/python/Products/ZPatterns/SkinScript/Components.py
about line 71.

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Re: [Zope-dev] DTML Documents/Folders in ZClasses fail to accessanything

2001-02-22 Thread Itai Tavor

Steve Alexander wrote:

>Itai Tavor wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I got a ZClass 'Test', with a DTML Method 'view' containing 
>>, and a DTML Document 'view2' with the same line. 
>>instance/view works. instance/view2 returns (ZDebug output):
>
>From SimpleItem.py:
>
>"""Direct use of the 'id' attribute is deprecated - use getId()"""
>
>The difference you're seeing is because the DTML Method is acquiring the
>id attribute, whereas you're getting the DTML Document's own id
>attribute.

Thanks, but it's got nothing to do with getId... I just used id 
because it's easy to write. I get the same behavior if I try to view 
meta_type, or a property that is defined on a propertysheet in the 
ZClass. And the fact that the DTML Document uses its own attributes 
shouldn't cause Unauthorized, should it? It should just show a 
different attribute, or acquire the attribute if it doesn't have it.

I just tried it again with a clean install of Zope 2.3.0. In a DTML 
Document, this works (name is a property in the ZClass propertysheet):


   
   


But these fail with Unauthorized: , . The  in standard_html_header fails 
as well.

I also repeated the folder test: In a DTML Method stored inside a 
folder in the ZClass,  works, but  fails.

So what do we have? I can't use title_or_id on DTML Documents, so 
it's useless for use in standard_html_header (and title_or_id uses 
getId, so it should work). I can't access ZClass properties from the 
DTML Document unless I use dtml-with - meaning no acquisition. And I 
can't access properties of the DTML Document (like meta_type) unless 
they are accessed using a method call (like getId()). This can't be 
right.

I find it hard to believe that if this is really a bug, it didn't 
bother anybody else until now. On the other hand, these tests seem to 
show a problem with security checks on objects in ZClasses that 
create their own context. So what am I still missing here?

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Re: [Zope-dev] Setting vars in expression eval() namespace

2001-02-22 Thread Julio Maia

On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:53:54PM +, Steve Alexander wrote:
> Julio Maia wrote:
> 
> > 
> > This is not going to be handy once the block is composed by a large dtml
> > block. I wonder if dtml-var shouldn't support the syntax I've described
> > above.
> 
> I suggest instead using a PythonScript, and using the DTML class that you
> can import from the Products.PythonScripts.standard module.
> 
> You can use this to render DTML on the fly, as you wish.

I guess it would be better to allow constructs as:


   Some text 


Where 'table' and 'font' are PythonScripts that return the implicit blocks passed to 
them (these blocks may have a default variable name in the expression's namespaces) 
enclosed by the correspondent html blocks, with the format ('main, 'standard') mapped 
to html attributes/values using some dictionaries. This could help to separate logic 
and presentation in dtml code with a minor syntax addition.

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog Lazy Results

2001-02-22 Thread Tres Seaver

Casey Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- Johan Carlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I need to check an assumption I have made on the
> > ZCatalog Brains and Lazy Results from reading the
> > source.
> > 
> > 1. The Brains gets its schema from the ZCatalog and
> > this
> > schema is basicly fixed. E.g. a search result
> > always has
> > the attributes defined by the Meta Data in the
> > ZCatalog?
> 
> Yes, you always get all the meta-data. However, does
> anyone know how the "used" argument of
> ZCatalog.searchResults works, or why you would use it?

'used' tells you the names of the indexes which actually
participated in the search (as distinct from those you
asked for).

> > I would rather be able to construct a Brain Schema
> > at search time
> > equivalent to the way theSELECT statement sets up
> > the result attributes
> > in SQL. 
> > Example: 
> > resultset =
> >
> Catalog.searchResults(query,schema=('id','title','keywords'))
> 
> Why is this important? I would suggest not putting big
> stuff in the meta-data that might warrant this. Just
> use the nifty new (v2.3) getObject method of the brain
> to access whatever properties/methods of the actual
> object you might need.

'getObject' forces you to "wake up" the catalogued object;
in a large enough result set, the price is pretty punitive,
compared to serving the results as cached metadata.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Storing part of an object on the file system

2001-02-22 Thread Andy McKay

Actually just follow up I realised I never told you how I solved this
problem. I compacted all data types into File, Image or DTML Document. Since
I had ExtFile and ExtImage I chopped those into one class called it
ExtThing, and the wrote classes off it. ExtFile and ExtImage I cut and
pasted (not complete) for the most part.

Then I wrote a class that called ExtHTML that is a DTML Document that
overrides the munge() and read() read functions. Instead I passed those onto
ExtThing. And there you go a DTML Document that has the main body stored on
the local file system.

Thanks McGregor.
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Subject: [Zope-dev] Storing part of an object on the file system


> Ok whack idea #34... Well sort of, the idea was sparked by ExtFile (yes
its
> all his fault honest). We want to have files on the file system for many
> reasons which I won't go into now, just take it for granted. But we also
> want some of the objects information to be in the standard data.fs, so we
> can catalog it use acquisition provide a simple interface to it and so on.
> So far you are saying thats ExtFile and you are right.
>
> But we want to extend it to any object anywhere, instead of storing the
data
> attribute in the object and pickling it in the ZODB I want to be able to
> store the data attribute on the file system. This gives us loads of
> advantages we also thought this would be extremely useful to other people.
> We've bounced around ideas on how to do this and here the only two so far:
>
> -we could overload the data attribute with a class that on Pickling
into
> the ZODB instead writes it on to the filesystem...
> -we could in the ZODB put a hack to say if pickling something with so
> and so attribute do this instead...
>
> I feel like this something I should just not be doing, but it would be
great
> if I could get it work...
>
> --
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>
>
>
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[Zope-dev] Minor typos in Zope 2.3.1b1 (and potential bug).

2001-02-22 Thread Erik Enge

If you click the Help-link in a manage_propertiesForm screen (point begin
to bring up the Help for the properties) and have a look down where it
says in bold "Note:", followed by this strange line of text:

[...] This property (or method) should return a list of
strings will be used to provide choices for the selection.

Well, that cleared it up, didn't it? :).  (Prolly missing a "that"?)

Another thing, which might be a bug or a feature.  I used to do
REQUEST.form.keys() to list all attributes in the REQUEST.  With 2.3.1b1
that doesn't seem to work, because the attributes are in
REQUEST.other.  (This is when posting from a form.)  The words REQUEST and
RESPONSE are also in other, so when I want to do stuff with it I need to
make sure I don't include those in the REQUEST which I'm shipping off
(because then they would only be strings, not instances, to the next
method).


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Re: [Zope-dev] Setting vars in expression eval() namespace

2001-02-22 Thread Julio Maia

On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:53:54PM +, Steve Alexander wrote:
> Julio Maia wrote:
> 
> > 
> > This is not going to be handy once the block is composed by a large dtml
> > block. I wonder if dtml-var shouldn't support the syntax I've described
> > above.
> 
> I suggest instead using a PythonScript, and using the DTML class that you
> can import from the Products.PythonScripts.standard module.
> 
> You can use this to render DTML on the fly, as you wish.

I guess it would be better to allow constructs as:


   Some text 


Where 'table' and 'font' are PythonScripts that return the implicit blocks passed to 
them (these blocks may have a default variable name in the expression's namespaces) 
enclosed by the correspondent html blocks, with the format ('main, 'standard') mapped 
to html attributes/values using some dictionaries. This could help to separate logic 
and presentation in dtml code with a minor syntax addition.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Setting vars in expression eval() namespace

2001-02-22 Thread Steve Alexander

Julio Maia wrote:

 > Hi,
 >
 > I'm trying to create a tag to evaluate the expression passed to it,
 > adding in the expression eval namespace a variable that contains
 > the result of dtml processing of the tag's block. For instance, the
 >  following construct:
 >
 > 
 >   some text 
 > 
 >
 > would invoke the expression "foo(a=1)" with a variable named 'block'
 >  set to 'some text 3' in the expression's namespace (btw, is it
 > possible to achieve this using regular dtml?).

This may be too simple example, but how about:



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Re: [Zope-dev] Editing DTML Documents

2001-02-22 Thread Tres Seaver

Martijn Pieters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 03:54:29PM +0100, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > Is there an efficient way to use an external editor to edit DTML Documents? 
> > Some people in my homepage group are tired of the ZMI and I can understand 
> > them, especially because of a lack of syntax highlighting.
> > There is the possibility of copy'n'paste and upload again, but that's ugly. I 
> > also read that development on the Mozilla-based management tool is not 
> > continued. (That's sad, BTW...)
> > Could I use WebDAV (don't have any experience with it) to retrieve and save 
> > the DTML source? If so, is there a good HTML source code editor (don't want 
> > WYSIWYG!) for Windows or Linux supporting WebDAV?
> > 
> > Any suggestions welcome!
> 
> You can use HTMLKit: 
> 
>   http://www.chami.com/html-kit
>   
> It supports FTP better than any other Windows tool I know; it can
> optionally open files without an extension inside itself. This is a
> god-sent for DTML objects like standard_html_header.
> 
> There aren't any WebDAV enabled editors I know of that actually make use
> of the added functionality of WebDAV server; they treat it like any other
> FTP server. The only exception is Adobe GoLive 5; it uses WebDAV
> properties and locking extensively; but you said No WYSIWYG.. :)

Cadaver (http://www.webdav.org/cadaver)...

$ cadaver http://localhost:9088
Looking up hostname... Connecting to server... connected.
Connecting to server... connected.
dav:/> edit standard_html_header
Connecting to server... connected.
Downloading `/standard_html_header' to /tmp/cadaver-edit-Be2V3i Authentication
required for Zope on server `localhost':
Username: manager
Password: 
Retrying:
Progress: [=>] 100.0% of 80 bytes succeeded.
Running editor: `vim /tmp/cadaver-edit-Be2V3i'...
Changes were made.
Uploading changes to `/standard_html_header'
Progress: [=>] 100.0% of 85 bytes succeeded.
dav:/> 

...works for me. :)

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