Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Laws and standards

2011-01-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I was just joking around. You were fine. Questionning and flagging up potential problems is part of why linux and other OpenSource projects are so much more robust and secure than proprietary programs. We put things together in so many different combinations and tweaked in different wa

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [tdf-discuss] LO 3.3 RC 2 - Colour for insert columns and rows in Writer

2011-01-12 Thread Tom Davies
I really hate blue and green is fairly awful. I do quite like yellow, red, any other earthy or fiery colours Regards from Tom :) From: Christoph Noack To: disc...@documentfoundation.org Cc: accessibility@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 11 January, 2011 21:20:54 Su

[libreoffice-accessibility] Operating Systems

2011-04-15 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Has anyone tried linux operating systems such as Knoppix-Adriene or Vinux? Has anyone managed to install either of those as a dual-boot alongside Windows? or on a usb-stick or something? A few people at DistroWatch have asked if anyone could volunteer to write a review of Vinux. A coup

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Operating Systems

2011-04-15 Thread Tom Davies
reoffice-accessibility] Operating Systems Hi, On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:28:09 +0100 (BST), Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > > Has anyone tried linux operating systems such as Knoppix-Adriene or Vinux? > Has > anyone managed to install either of those as a dual-boot alongside > Windows?

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [libreoffice-documentation] changes for this mailing list

2011-05-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) This has been discussed 'ad nauseum' on the website list and probably other places although i think it was some time ago and 'shelved' as being too low-priority at the time. I haven't checked in with the website list for many months but i would hazard a guess that they have been discussi

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] address change working

2011-06-10 Thread Tom Davies
Florian! You did an awesome job of that! If people click on old threads from the old addresses and click "Reply" it automatically adds the new "global." part into the middle of the address even tho it wasn't anywhere in the old thread! I think a lot of people were worried about issues suc

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Query

2011-06-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Sorry for the delay in responding! Have other people already solved this? What are the constraints on the GPS system? If you are looking for something very light-weight then Gnome Office might be better. It only has AbiWord and Gnumeric so it can't handle slides but can cope with

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice, screen reader, Windows

2011-07-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) You might have more success re-posting this question to the Users list or oddly the marketing team have been off-topic in that sort of direction a bit sometimes. Regards from Tom :) From: Jean-Philippe MENGUAL To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] hackfest agenda

2011-07-19 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Can non-devs make suggestions? Surely it is up to the devs to choose things? If non-devs can make suggestions then something on Impress would be great. There are only a few things that people have trouble with but they might be too tough to fix in the short time available. Regards f

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [Libreoffice] hackfest agenda

2011-07-19 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) My preferences there are 5, 4 and 1 in that order. I thought number 5 was already as good as it could get but any improvement there could be a significant advantage in moving forwards everywhere. Regards from Tom :) From: Regina Henschel To: Florian E

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Should Writer export tagged PDF and bookmarks by default?

2011-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Can you post a bug-report about it? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport Perhaps add "[wishlist]" to the subject-line? I think post the bug-report now rather than leaving it. Any small improvement in accessibility should be a priority in my opinion. Sometimes the defaults are

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Should Writer export taggedPDF and bookmarks by default?

2011-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
ssage - From: "Christophe Strobbe" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Should Writer export taggedPDF and bookmarks by default? > Hi Tom, > > At 14:44 26-7-2011, Tom Davies wrote: >> Hi :) Can you post a bug-report about i

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Should Writer export taggedPDF and bookmarks by default?

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
er users right out of the box since the navigation quick keys > which software like Jaws, Orca and NVDA have are pretty universal for > jumping through documents. h for heading, t for table, p for > paragraph, etc. In untagged pdf's these don't work. > > Thanks. > Alex M

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Should Writer export taggedPDF and bookmarks by default?

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
universal for jumping through documents. h for heading, t for table, p for paragraph, etc. In untagged pdf's these don't work. Thanks. Alex M On 7/26/11, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Yes, the more bug-reports the better. Especially very specific ones that > might > be fairly

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Should Writer export taggedPDF and bookmarks by default?

2011-07-31 Thread Tom Davies
White To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 31 July, 2011 1:18:21 Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Should Writer export taggedPDF and bookmarks by default? Tom Davies wrote: >A lot of possibly easy wins, easy hacks, "low hanging fruit" or whatever >people >want to

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice and Orca (WAS: Should Writer export taggedPDF and bookmarks by default?)

2011-08-02 Thread Tom Davies
@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 2 August, 2011 12:27:29 Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice and Orca (WAS: Should Writer export taggedPDF and bookmarks by default?) Hi Jason, All, At 02:18 31-7-2011, Jason White wrote: > Tom Davies wrote: > >A lot of possibly easy w

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Default language of hyperlinks

2011-08-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think that post should have gone to the users list rather than this one as there might be people there able to help. Hmmm, actually perhaps just posting it as a bug-report would be better? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport Regards from Tom :) __

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Default language of hyperlinks

2011-08-03 Thread Tom Davies
guage of hyperlinks At 20:30 2-8-2011, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > I think that post should have gone to the users list rather than this one as >there might be people there able to help. Hmmm, actually perhaps just posting >it as a bug-report would be better? Sure. It is now regi

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Setting up accessibility for screen reader

2011-08-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Please post separate bug-reports about these issues http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport 1. NVDA not working 2. The "The user checks then the checkbox "support software for disabled people". He asks now: couldn't this checkbox checked by default?" because i agree too and i'm sure t

[libreoffice-accessibility] Bug-Report Guide & accessibility

2011-08-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Documentation on how to post a bug-report would be great! There is an excellent wiki-page here http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport That might benefit from a bit of re-arranging and tidy-up. I have forwarded an email from the Accessibility list that might be worth incorporating.

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Setting up accessibility for screen reader

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Hopefully the devs would let us know if there is an easier approach to solving any particular bug-report. Also it reasonably easy for triagers to move bug-reports from one section to another. There are something like 100 devs working on LibreOffice. New devs need "simple hacks" to h

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Setting up accessibility for screen reader

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I still think it's a good idea to post a bug-report about that tick-box being unchecked by default. You can always ask in the bug-report itself about whether it's likely to have an impact on performance. The code has been cleaned up considerably and it might not be an issue anymore. r

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] How to make a document accessible?

2011-08-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) There was a thread about this in here but i don't know where it is. Actually there were not many suggestions about documentation specifically and it would be great to get a list of things to do. Regards from Tom :) From: Sigrid Carrera To: accessib

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] IAccessible2 / LibreOffice / OpenOffice.org

2011-09-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think IBM have a lot of power in this relationship.  If Oracle are being slow about passing IBMs contribution to Apache then i think IBM might be able to make that happen faster.  I heard that Oracle and Apache are in court fighting each other at the moment or fairly recently about thi

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] IAccessible2 / LibreOffice / OpenOffice.org

2011-09-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) If someone here could post to the LibreOffice devs list http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/ and perhaps someone else to the nvda people?  Then perhaps we could get them talking to each other?  They probably don't talk at the moment purely because they are unaware of each oth

Re: (off-topic) Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] IAccessible2 / LibreOffice / OpenOffice.org

2011-09-09 Thread Tom Davies
At 12:06 9-9-2011, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > I think IBM have a lot of power in this relationship.  If Oracle are being > slow about passing IBMs contribution to Apache then i think IBM might be able > to make that happen faster. I have no evidence that anyone is deliberately b

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: OpenOffice.org code on Apache: IAccessible2 ?

2011-09-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It is great to see people such as Christopher Strobbe and Michael Stahl pushing things forwards and getting things done.  I very much appreciate it.  Thanks guys :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 9/9/11, Michael Stahl wrote: From: Michael Stahl Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re:

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice 3.4 has stopped working

2011-09-28 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) You might have some luck if you re-name the user-profile.  LibreOffice is then forced to create a new one which effectively sets it back to "factory defaults".  Search for the path ... libreoffice/3/user (or something like that) on the device where the portable app is installed.  I'm no

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice start screen in high contrast

2011-10-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Sorry there have been no answers on the Accessibility List so far.  I am forwarding to the Users List to hopefully catch one of the excellent people there.  Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 4/10/11, Christophe Strobbe wrote: From: Christophe Strobbe Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] [DISCUSS] Maximizing e-mail/list accessibility

2011-10-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Thanks :)  That's a relief.  I had assumed that opinion would be divided about the top vs bottom posting issue and i hadn't thought about html vs plain-text.  It's a relief to hear that at least 2 people prefer top-posting for good reasons.  So i don't get it wrong for everyone all the tim

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] AccessODF, accessibility checker for Writer files

2011-11-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Is there a Press Release that is not a download?  If there is a web-page then i can link to it from the page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_In_The_Press Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 9/11/11, Christophe Strobbe wrote: From: Christophe Strobbe Subject: [libreoffice-acc

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] AccessODF, accessibility checker for Writer files

2011-11-10 Thread Tom Davies
Tom :) --- On Thu, 10/11/11, Christophe Strobbe wrote: From: Christophe Strobbe Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] AccessODF, accessibility checker for Writer files To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 10 November, 2011, 15:04 Hi Tom, At 13:48 10-11-2011, Tom Davies

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re:

2011-11-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It's neither interesting nor useful.  It's spam and leads to a "404 not found" page.  (Tested on Gnu&Linux, avoided on Windows.  Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 15/11/11, bls02...@aol.com wrote: From: bls02...@aol.com Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: To: ab...@juno.com, accessib

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] support of PDF UA

2012-02-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Nicely found! :)  I think it's new or recently been made visually very pretty by using the logos for the various apps.  I think it contains most of the important stuff from the guide http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport but maybe misses how to do an s-trace or gather other logs&repo

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] configuring libreoffice for accessibility

2012-02-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Apparently the best version of java is the 6u21 version. The 20 and 22 are next best.  After 24 LO might run into problems unless you are using LO 3.5.0 which is still not yet officially released but you might be able to use the pre-release.  The 3.5.0 can use java 7 at last. Hopefully wh

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] configuring libreoffice for accessibility

2012-02-09 Thread Tom Davies
rom: Christophe Strobbe Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] configuring libreoffice for accessibility To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 9 February, 2012, 14:18 Hi Tom, At 23:38 8-2-2012, Tom Davies wrote: > Apparently the best version of java is the 6u21 version. The 20

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice 3.5 Not working with Java Access Bridge 2.02

2012-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I forwarded this to the Users List and asked them if anyone there could replicate the problem but they might not reply.  If they do i will try to forwards their replies back to here. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 16/2/12, David Goldfield wrote: From: David Goldfield Subject: [libreo

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice 3.5 Not working with Java Access Bridge 2.02

2012-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I am not sure if the following email helps? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 16/2/12, Stefano Fraccaro wrote: NVDA 2011.3 works correctly with LibO 3.5 or not? 2012.1 is a beta version, maybe is broken NVDA. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.or

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Writing Aids problem

2012-03-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Does anyone know if re-naming the User Profile would help? https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile It would get all the setting "back to factory defaults" but is that likely to create other problems for a screen-reader? Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 5/3/12, webmas

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] anyone using Libre Office with the Dolphin screen readers?

2012-03-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I have forwarded this to the Users List just in case anyone there knows anything about "Supernova" which seem to be the main problem. "The problem I am having, and it is a pretty serious one, is that Supernova is not able to read the menu bar or the pull-down menus at this point.  I am not

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Math and accessibility for the visually impaired

2012-04-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I have forwarded this to the accessibility list which is usually faster and better at answering these problems than the Users List.  Unfortunately protonpusher is not subscribed to the Accessibility List (i think) so please CC replies directly to him/her.  Thanks and regards from Tom :)

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Math and accessibility for the visually impaired

2012-04-10 Thread Tom Davies
ibreoffice-accessibility] Math and accessibility for the visually impaired To: "Tom Davies" Cc: "Christophe Strobbe" Date: Tuesday, 10 April, 2012, 10:43 Hi Tom, Can you forward this to the list for me? I am not aware of a standard for alt text for math equations. What I hav

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] autocorrect dialog needs some work.

2012-04-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Accessibility seems to be a bit of a problem area for LibreOffice.  Is this particular issue an area that people could help with?  Is anyone here on the devs list? Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 23/4/12, Tom Randall wrote: From: Tom Randall Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] autocor

[libreoffice-accessibility] Fw: [libreoffice-users] inferior jre error message

2012-05-28 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I just forwarded this message from the Users List.  I think the Users List is a good first place to ask almost anything.  Also i think it's good to "raise the profile" of accessibility issues there.  However i think people on this list can probably give the best answers.  Please CC "Jude

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] latest Java update has broken my install.

2012-06-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) You can have more than 1 version of java installed.  You might still have your previous version.  If you are able to open Libre Office at all then you can set which version of java it uses by Tools - Options - Java The first item is a tick-box that you need to have ticked in order to us

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] latest Java update has broken myinstall.

2012-06-25 Thread Tom Davies
ginal Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:48 PM To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] latest Java update has broken myinstall. Hi :) You can have more than 1 version of java installed. You might still have your previous version.  I

[libreoffice-accessibility] [update] Workaround for the Java 1.7.x compatibility problem

2012-07-29 Thread Tom Davies
--- On Mon, 30/7/12, Tom Randall wrote: From: Tom Randall Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Workaround for the Java 1.7.x compatibility problem To: us...@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 30 July, 2012, 0:09 A slight update. By installing I believe the Microsoft Visual C libraries as als

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Libo 3.6 Broken with Screen readers

2012-08-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) This wiki-page might be easier to use than the nice pretty gui http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport Both get the same result although the wiki is more flexible. Regards from Tom :)  --- On Sat, 18/8/12, Marc Paré wrote: From: Marc Paré Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: L

[libreoffice-accessibility] Java nightmare & FAQ wiki-page

2012-08-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  I am not sure if Tom Randall is on this list.  You guys seem to have solved a lot of these java issues so i thought forwarding the thread here just in case you can help hi8m where others can't.  Also i made a rough wiki-page that is intended to help people solve java issues.  https://

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Java nightmare & FAQ wiki-page

2012-08-29 Thread Tom Davies
d, 29/8/12, Alex Midence wrote: From: Alex Midence Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Java nightmare & FAQ wiki-page To: "Tom Davies" Cc: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org, "Tom Randall" Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 19:22 Hi, Sorry to hear you are having su

[libreoffice-accessibility] Ubuntu LiveCd & Wubi - was Java Nightmare

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
pdate.  I forced Java >>> to >>> do an update so that it would presumably get the latest version with the >>> Jab >>> pre-installed so I wouldn't have to monkey with that.  This appeared to >>> go >>> fine and I was able to turn on the Jab via the Win

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Elements of Libre Office writer document not accessible to Orca screen reader.

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think the BoD have been working on trying to get the Symphony code that was given to AOO but at that layer of the organisations there seems to be a lot of tension and arguments between the projects.  Down here we sometimes find people working on both projects at roughly the same time or

[libreoffice-accessibility] Fw: Ubuntu LiveCd & Wubi - was Java Nightmare

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
ce key as you use for your normal install of Windows.  I managed it once but i had to phone MS Customer Support and argue a bit. Regards from Tom :)  - Forwarded Message - >From: Alex Midence >To: 'Tom Davies' ; 'Tom Randall' >Cc: accessibility@g

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Elements of Libre Office writer document not accessible to Orca screen reader.

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
e better off without.  Plus we have more experience of what NOT to do and wrong directions worth avoiding.  Regards from Tom :)  > > From: Alex Midence >To: 'Tom Davies' ; 'Dattatray Bhat' > >Cc: accessibility@global.libr

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] [Libreoffice-qa] Adding "Accessibility" component to Bug Assistant

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) In bug-reports there are several drop-downs.  One has "feature request" and i think another has "Easy hack"?  Would one of those be better than the other?  Which of those was which option of the a, b, c etc? Regards from Tom :)  > > From: Ti tengo d'o

[libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think right now is an excellent time to push any Accessibility Agendas to a wide variety of lists.  Sadly people on most lists ignore me or disagree with anything i say sometimes purely because it's me that's saying it.  So, can other people here push any of the ideas of current (or pa

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics

2012-09-01 Thread Tom Davies
a good man for that task.  Regards from Tom :)  --- On Fri, 31/8/12, Sophie Gautier wrote: From: Sophie Gautier Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org, "Tom Davies" Date: Friday, 31 August, 2012, 19:10 Hi Tom, On 31/08

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Ubuntu LiveCd & Wubi - was Java Nightmare

2012-09-02 Thread Tom Davies
on the ubuntu site maybe this evening or tomorrow and check it out. Laters. Tom -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:12 AM To: Alex Midence ; Tom Randall Cc: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Ubuntu LiveCd & Wubi -

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Ubuntu LiveCd & Wubi - was Java Nightmare

2012-09-03 Thread Tom Davies
-drives from them too so i was able to do quite a lot of experimenting.  Regards from Tom :)  --- On Mon, 3/9/12, Alex Midence wrote: From: Alex Midence Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Ubuntu LiveCd & Wubi - was Java Nightmare To: "Tom Davies" Cc: "Tom Randa

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] wiki.documentfoundation.org - Vote_for_Enhancement: Implement the IAccessible2 accessibility API

2012-09-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think you have to edit the wiki to add your own comment in a relevant place.  If you can check out other items on the page you find that some have 3 or 4 reasons why their idea should be dealt with.  I was thinking about adding something about organisations needing to be able to show

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Java Accessibility Bridge - JRE support Wiki

2012-09-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It looks nice.  Very simple and straight-forwards once you get past all the standard menus and stuff at the top of the page.   I've not put links to the wiki-page anywhere so people can only get to it from clicking on one of the links in the various emails about it or by editing the url a

[libreoffice-accessibility] What's New in Evolution 3.6

2012-09-19 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) There has been some discussion on the Users List about email clients.  It seems LibreOffice is compatible with quite a few and people might be interested to hear about a new release of one of the larger ones.  Larger and more like a drop-in replacement for MS Outlook.  It's not a new proje

[libreoffice-accessibility] Can't get Libra office working with Java access bridge and java7.

2012-09-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) The question did get to the list originally but the list was unusually quiet at the time after an unusually busy period during the paralympics Hopefully someone here can remember how to fix the java-bridge or hopefully this wiki-page might help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Java

[libreoffice-accessibility] Java access bridge again.

2012-10-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) We have been discussing this off-list for a while but i'm cc'ing it back to the list now in the hope that someone might be able to help Regards from Tom :)  > > From: Kevin Cussick >To: Tom Davies >Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 20

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think the point was to completely clear your system of all of it so that you could get a fresh start.  I think a lot of the programs that combine to give accessibility are inter-related and when it goes wrong it's because one bit is pointing at some old version that has been removed or

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Davies
g with java7 and the access bridge > then I am happy to take instruction on how to fix it, but if not I think I have reached the end of the road. > > I have a feeling it is a problem with lo and u as well as has been said on > the Nvda list. but I hope to be proved wrong thanks

Nvda list, was: Fw: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Davies
elements of LibreOffice-but will not be able to read or navigate text within the components. Stuart From: Kevin Cussick [mailto:the.big.white.sheph...@googlemail.com] Sent: Sun 10/7/2012 5:47 PM To: Tom Davies Cc: V Stuart Foote; Kevin Cussick; accessibility@global

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] bug 50926

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  I'm not sure how to forwards this to the devs list.  There has been some talk of getting accessibility bugs marked out to differentiate them from others and perhaps raise the priority on them to hopefully get them fixed faster.  Thanks to IBM's gift of their Lotus Symphony code to Apa

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] bug 50926

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Looks fine to me although i'm not a dev.  As you already know i have pushed the question to the Users List because there are a few people there that might well know better.  They might take an interest and be more helpful about getting the message to the devs too with any luck.  Good luck

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Davies
t; Accessibility and Tools -> Options Java menus. > Without the Accessibility "Support assistive technology tools" checked, > NVDA will read the outside frame elements of LibreOffice-but will not be > able to read or navigate text within the components. > Stuart > // >

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Davies
knowledgeable.  Regards from Tom :)  --- On Mon, 8/10/12, Kevin Cussick wrote: From: Kevin Cussick Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE To: "Tom Davies" Cc: "V Stuart Foote" , "Kevin Cussick" , accessibility@glo

Re: Nvda list, was: Fw: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Davies
ing on the problems, maybe? Regards from Tom :)  --- On Mon, 8/10/12, Kevin Cussick wrote: From: Kevin Cussick Subject: Re: Nvda list, was: Fw: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE To: "Tom Davies" Cc: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Date

Re: Nvda list, was: Fw: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Davies
nyone here translate LO or OO's guides into braille?  If so which languages?  Wow!  Lots more questions! Regards from Tom :)  --- On Mon, 8/10/12, Kevin Cussick wrote: From: Kevin Cussick Subject: Re: Nvda list, was: Fw: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice

Re: Nvda list, was: Fw: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Davies
hanks, apols and regards from Tom :)  --- On Mon, 8/10/12, Kevin Cussick wrote: From: Kevin Cussick Subject: Re: Nvda list, was: Fw: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE To: "Tom Davies" Cc: "Kevin Cussick" , accessibility@global.l

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-09 Thread Tom Davies
;enable assistive technology in LibreOffice without navigating the Tools -> >Options -> Accessibility and Tools -> Options Java menus.  > >Without the Accessibility "Support assistive technology tools" checked, NVDA >will read the outside frame elements of LibreOffice-b

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with myJRE

2012-10-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Blimey!!  Thanks for putting a lot of work into this!  It's amazing to feel that things are moving forwards after such a long time of what felt like inactivity.  I'm sure some devs have been working on things behind the scenes but we seldom hear about that side of things on this list.  M

Extension or script? Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with myJRE

2012-10-11 Thread Tom Davies
ork out.  So, i just advised putting the extra bit in the subject-line and let the devs sort the drop-downs.  I feel a bit bad and guilty because i know they are busy! Regards from Tom :)  > > From: Kevin Cussick >To: Tom Davies >Sent:

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Reality Check - Windows Java Accessibility API non-functional for ALL LibreOffice 3.6.x releases to date

2012-10-15 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 A huge +1 really.  Just +1 doesn't really get close!  Definitely impressive work from Stuart there!  "Above and beyond" gets closer.  I tried voting but found that really unclear, and i have been editing wiki's for a while now.  I was able to add a comment in support but i'm not sure i

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Survey about newcomer experience for LibreOffice project contributors

2012-10-23 Thread Tom Davies
cant differences in infrastructure, attitudes and approach.  Also their definition of "member" is a lot more open than TDF's so if you are not officially a member then you can probably still fill it in.  Regards from Tom Davies  - Forwarded Message - >From: kevouze

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Survey about newcomer experience - Thank you + reminder

2012-10-25 Thread Tom Davies
> > From: kevouze >To: us...@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2012, 21:04 >Subject: [libreoffice-users] Survey about newcomer experience - Thank you + >reminder > >Thank you! >Thank you to all who took part in the survey. Your contribution ha

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Reality Check - Windows Java Accessibility API non-functional for ALL LibreOffice 3.6.x releases to date

2012-10-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Good work Stuart!  Again!  :)  Many thanks and regards from Tom :)  > > From: V Stuart Foote >To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2012, 16:51 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Reality Check - Windows Java >Acce

[libreoffice-accessibility] Sophie's blog Fw: [libreoffice-marketing] Sophie's blog article on LibreOffice Marketing contributors

2012-11-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) There have been a number of interesting articles about LibreOffice recently.  I keep meaning to pass a list of the links on to the Users List and perhaps relevant ones in a list to other mailing lists too.  Sophie's blog is interesting because she was one of the original founders.   Marc

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  +1 Accessibility is important.  Unfortunately in LO it seems to heavily and thoroughly depend on Java which the entire rest of the project is trying to break free from.  Apparently under Apache their version of OpenOffice is going to acquire all the accessibility stuff from IBM.  AOO

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 I like the sound of ... "It is sometimes good to meet as a team with 3rd party software providers to see what kind of progress or what type of cooperative development could take place." Could TDF buy dev time from RedHat or SUSE or Canonical or another supporter of TDF or at least so

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-22 Thread Tom Davies
>Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist > >Le 2012-11-22 06:30, Tom Davies a écrit : >> Hi :) >> +1 >> >> I like the sound of ... >> "It is sometimes good to meet as a team with 3rd party software >> providers to see what kind

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I have no idea how to submit a funding request nor how to prepare one.  Also i have no idea how much a developer-coordinator/supervisor might cost.  Is there anyone on the list that might be able to get it together?  If not then i guess accessibility is just not going to get any investment

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice and VoiceOver

2012-11-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I am just forwarding this to the Accessibility List just in case anyone here knows something Alex doesn't.  Alex is usually very up-to-date but i can always hope that things are better on Mac.  Regards from Tom :)  > > From: Alexander Thurgood >To:

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice and VoiceOver

2012-11-29 Thread Tom Davies
e 3.3 is the 3rd link on the page Regards from Tom :)  > > From: Alex Midence >To: 'Tom Davies' ; >accessibility@global.libreoffice.org; 'Patrick Adams' >Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012, 18:45 >Subject: RE: [libreoffic

[libreoffice-accessibility] Funding proposals

2012-12-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Is there any chance of someone putting forwards a couple of funding proposals from the Accessibility List, perhaps as a Team effort?  I think less than 1 line, just a sentence with a hopeful guess at how much cash might be needed.  A few different proposals with very different amounts migh

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?

2012-12-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Would it be possible for someone to copy the code en-masse to make sure we get it all.  Then we can pick through what bits we can't keep later? Regards from Tom :)  > > From: Dennis E. Hamilton >To: 'Simon Eigeldinger' ; >accessibility@global.libreoffi

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help

2013-01-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I wondered if anyone here is interested in putting forwards ideas for where money should be targeted to improve accessibility.  No-one on this list backed my ideas so i couldn't put them forwards.  Is everyone happy with accessibility in LibreOffice?  Is it all working perfectly all the ti

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help

2013-01-30 Thread Tom Davies
ed help > >Hi Tom, > >Le 2013-01-17 05:46, Tom Davies a écrit : >> Hi :) >> I wondered if anyone here is interested in putting forwards ideas for where >> money should be targeted to improve accessibility.  No-one on this list >> backed my ideas so i cou

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help

2013-01-31 Thread Tom Davies
>preliminary requirements and AT design goals describing what currently exists, >while identifying what roles and functions are missing from the core UNO >Accessibility API for full support of the external accessibility APIs.  That >would be money well spent on AT and give th

Re: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help

2013-01-31 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Wow!!  I really like that idea too! :)  Regards from Tom :)  > > From: Fernando Botelho >To: V Stuart Foote >Cc: "accessibility@global.libreoffice.org" > >Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 11:55 >Subject: Re: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [lib

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Office 3.6 and Orca 3.7

2013-01-31 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Did you manage to solve this in the end?  Sorry, i lost track a bit during the snows here. Apols and regards from Tom :)  > > From: Fernando Botelho >To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013, 12:07 >Subject: [libreoffi

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-users] Accessibility issues - BLIND USER

2013-02-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Sorry i didn't forward this to the right list earlier!  Have you had any luck solving the problems?  I'm not sure if you are subscribed to the right lists so i have made sure you are being CC'd so that you get the responses. Apols and regards from Tom :)  >

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] introduction

2013-02-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) If you are not sure if someone is subscribed to a list you can always include them in the CC or To fields to make sure they do get the message so i have put Jonathan in the To field so he gets to see the thread so far.  I also found this quote from the Users List " From: Samuel Mehrbrodt

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] New to the list,,,

2013-04-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It is very low traffic but just post each question as a separate thread, if possible, and you might find answers happen within a day or so.  It would be nice if the team was more active and took charge more but there are some good people here doing some great stuff behind the scenes. Good

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Programmers are unable to extract pressed keys and text sequences in LibreOffice 4.x.

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Have you been able to solve this already?  Did you get any answers?  Many apologies but i think the low traffic list went very quiet over Easter.  Normally it relies on 1 or 2 total stars and if they are not around the rest of us feel a bit helpless. I am forwarding this to the Users List

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Possilbe UNO Accessibility API -Java Access Bridge issue in current build of Master while using NVDA for AT

2013-04-23 Thread Tom Davies
from Tom :)  > > From: V Stuart Foote >To: Tom Davies ; >"accessibility@global.libreoffice.org" >Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 11:31 >Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Possible UNO Accessibility API -Java >Access Bridge is

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