Re: Robert Kagan on Europe and the US

2002-12-04 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: I knew he couldn't keep out of a debate that touched on philosophy! How long did you hold out, Marvin? A week? ;) Hey, that doesn't mean anything. It's not like I'm addicted or anything. I can quit any time I want! Marvin Long Austin, Texas

Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds???

2002-12-04 Thread Reggie Bautista
Russell Chapman wrote: How dirty can a ceiling get?? That depends on how often you use candles, oil lamps, oil simmerpots, potpourri, and other things that put extra stuff in the air. And how often you do experiments that involve making a working volcano model on the living room coffee

Why the metric system is wrong

2002-12-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
The metric system wrong? That is heresy, heresy I tell ya! GRIN http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/books/12/02/alder.measure/index.html There is a message of hope near the end of the article, though: Eventually, he says, Americans will fully adjust. The metric system was meant to be global, and

Re: FW: Request to mailing list Brin-l rejected

2002-12-04 Thread Wilbur07
Jeroen writes: you will have to remove Arnett from his position. Methinky-thinks thou doth protest too much, Jeroen. At least as a Cassius to Arnett's Caesar, plots upon plots circling in your mind, it shows on your face and prompts us to say, 'ware Arnett! For Cassius was a man who

RE: Digital image stored in single molecule

2002-12-04 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The Fool ... Digital image stored in single molecule 10:15 01 December 02 NewScientist.com news service An image composed of over 1000 of bits of information can be stored in the atoms of a single

Scouted: Pill-Sized Camera Used to Find Tumors

2002-12-04 Thread Jon Gabriel
More good medical news. Jon PILL-SIZED CAMERA USED TO FIND TUMORS CHICAGO (Dec. 4) - A pill-sized camera that can be swallowed and can explore parts of the small intestine that other diagnostic techniques miss, allows for improved detection of inflammatory bowel disorders, researchers reported

Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Nick Arnett
Yesterday, Jeroen van Baardwijk posted about 40 messages to the list and its administrative address, all of which were re-postings of previous messages that were not acceptable under the list policies or were repeats of previous demands regarding the complaints that he has voiced on and off the

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Nick Arnett wrote: This is an action that I take only with GREAT reluctance. However, neither Julia nor I is willing to endure harassment of this kind. I appreciate those of you who have expressed your support during this difficult episode. I hope we've found a reasonable series of steps to

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Nick Arnett wrote: This is an action that I take only with GREAT reluctance. However, neither Julia nor I is willing to endure harassment of this kind. I appreciate those of you who have expressed your support during this difficult episode. I hope we've found a reasonable series of steps to

SCOUTED: Satellite Snooping on Saddam

2002-12-04 Thread Reggie Bautista
http://www.space.com/news/astronotes-1.html High-flying satellites are helping United Nation specialists look for Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. [snip] The usefulness of satellite snapshots is obvious in a just-released picture taken by Space Imaging's high-resolution

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Nick Arnett wrote: Reasons for blocking acces for a valued member of this community Let me say this: I fully realise that Nick has the absolute right and power to do this. It is afterall his list and he can do as he pleases wether I like it or not. But I just wish he'd be honest about the

SCOUTED: Judge: Force Microsoft to push Java?

2002-12-04 Thread Reggie Bautista
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/biztech/12/03/microsoft.sun.reut/index.html or http://makeashorterlink.com/?V4EA529A2 BALTIMORE, Maryland (Reuters) -- A federal judge hearing Sun Microsystems Inc.'s antitrust suit against Microsoft Corp., said Tuesday that forcing Microsoft to carry

RE: SCOUTED: Will Smith to star in 'I, Robot'

2002-12-04 Thread Horn, John
From: Reggie Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Fox has booked Will Smith to star in sci-fier I, Robot, an adaptation of the 1940s Isaac Asimov short-story collection that set the groundwork for robot films ranging from The Terminator to A.I.,

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked Nick Arnett wrote: Reasons for blocking acces for a valued member of this community Let me say this: I

Assumptions Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked Nick Arnett wrote: Reasons for blocking acces for a valued member of this

Re: Assumptions Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Russell Chapman
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten responded: But I dont want to point this at you directly, even if you are getting involved in this crap. Yes you are. And no I'm not. I am however entitled to an opinion. Worse I'm even (for now still) entitled to voicing that opinion, independent of what Jeroen or

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did not want you to see.

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did not want you to see.

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did not want you to see.

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did not want you to see.

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did not want you to see.

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did not want you to see.

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did not want you to see.

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did not want you to see.

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did not want you to see.

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did not want you to see.

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did not want you to see.

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Please accept my apologies for this - I have started sending at least 5 replies to Jeroen for every spam I get, and he has apparently, through a simple (and childish) trick, ensured they come to the list as a whole. Adam ___

meeces

2002-12-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/04/coolsc.coolsc.mousegenome/ When it comes to DNA, it turns out there's not that much difference between mice and men. Mice and humans each have about 30,000 genes, yet only 300 are unique to either organism. Both even have genes for a tail, even though

Re: meeces

2002-12-04 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 05:53:53PM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The Fool ... http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/04/coolsc.coolsc.mousegenome/ When it comes to DNA, it turns out there's not

RE: meeces

2002-12-04 Thread Reggie Bautista
The Fool wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/04/coolsc.coolsc.mousegenome/ When it comes to DNA, it turns out there's not that much difference between mice and men. Mice and humans each have about 30,000 genes, yet only 300 are unique to either organism. Both even have genes for a

thought control

2002-12-04 Thread The Fool
http://cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/money/science_shopping/ http://cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/money/science_shopping/index2.html Corporations are going to new lengths to probe the minds of consumers. A company in Atlanta is scanning people's brains with MRIs, in an effort to record our

Re: meeces

2002-12-04 Thread Russell Chapman
Erik Reuter wrote: I wouldn't mind having a *prehensile* tail. A useless drooping one wouldn't be so useful, though. Imagine the boost to the fashion industry... A whole new world of possibilities... Cheers Russell C. ___

RE: Forged headers, etc.

2002-12-04 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erik Reuter ... On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 05:46:57PM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: Jeroen (which also allowed it to slip by sendmail's access block). That message also contained a forged hostname:

the all seeing eye that the bush white house / congress plans

2002-12-04 Thread The Fool
http://cryptome.org/tia-eyeball.htm http://sfweekly.com/issues/2002-11-27/smith.html/1/index.html ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread David Hobby
Nick Arnett wrote: This is an action that I take only with GREAT reluctance. However, neither Julia nor I is willing to endure harassment of this kind. ... I imagine that you have collect a lot of interesting material for your study of internet communities and how they deal with a crisis.

Re: Bush Seeks To Roll-Back Clean Air Rules

2002-12-04 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 11:48 PM 12/1/2002 -0500, you wrote: On 11/27/02 6:29 AM, Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your posts are too few and far between Matthew, but quality makes up for quantity a hundred-fold. You, my friend, have earned yourself a beer if we ever get the chance to meet. And if you are in

So how much is the participation on a mailing list worth?

2002-12-04 Thread Jim Sharkey
Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000. I had no idea you could sue for being banned from a free Internet mailing list. You learn something new every day. Jim PS: FWIW, I don't know that Jeroen hasn't gotten the shaft just a little, but he makes it darn hard to take his side.

Re: So how much is the participation on a mailing list worth?

2002-12-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:03 PM Subject: So how much is the participation on a mailing list worth? Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000. I had no idea you could sue for being banned from a free

Re: meeces

2002-12-04 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Russell Chapman wrote: Imagine the boost to the fashion industry... A whole new world of possibilities... To hell with fashion. Porn! Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA) ___

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, David Hobby wrote: I guess that I support Nick's action, anyway I gave up and killfiled Jeroen for keeps weeks ago. We keep kicking around ideas on easy ways to collectively deal with individuals who don't respect etiquette. But until we do come up with one that

RE: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Jon Gabriel
Not that this will be a surprise to anyone, but I completely support Nick and Julia. Jon GSV ...For The Good Of The List... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marvin Long, Jr. Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:26 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Jon Gabriel
Which makes that the second time my new Outlook program has double-posted something I only sent once to the list. My apologies. I'll try and fix the sucker this evening. Jon GSV Now Where's That Blowtorch? From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: meeces

2002-12-04 Thread Jon Gabriel
And the result? Tail Envy! Jon GSV insert your own well-endowed squirrel joke here VFP *shudder* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marvin Long, Jr. Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: meeces On

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Jim Sharkey
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: At this point I'd say that if someone disagrees, it's his obligation to say so. If we are talking about a permanent ban, then I'd have to disagree. As much as I think he doesn't know when to just say he's sorry and admit he might have been wrong in his approach, I

RE: meeces

2002-12-04 Thread Nick Arnett
Or the way things have been going lately, it'll be subpoenas envy. (A joke recycled from the '60s.) Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Gabriel Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Adam going 5 by 5

2002-12-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/4/2002 6:13:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please accept my apologies for this - I have started sending at least 5 replies to Jeroen for every spam I get, and he has apparently, through a simple (and childish) trick, ensured they come to the

RE: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Sharkey ... If we are talking about a permanent ban, then I'd have to disagree. As much as I think he doesn't know when to just say he's sorry and admit he might have been wrong in his approach,

RE: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Nick Arnett wrote: I hope that helps somehow. I'm always open to suggestions on how to make the difficult trade-off between list governance and free-ranging discussion, self-determination as a group, etc. A while ago an escalating series of temporary bans - a week, two

world-mart: how wal-mart is destroying the economy and remaking theworld

2002-12-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12962 http://www.rense.com/general32/myths.htm http://www.clevescene.com/issues/2002-09-04/feature.html/1/index.html ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: So how much is the participation on a mailing list worth?

2002-12-04 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote: Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000. I had no idea you could sue for being banned from a free Internet mailing list. You learn something new every day. Did I miss something? Julia ___

Re: So how much is the participation on a mailing list worth?

2002-12-04 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:36 PM Subject: Re: So how much is the participation on a mailing list worth? Jim Sharkey wrote: Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000. I had no idea you could sue

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-04 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:39 PM Subject: RE: Admin: Server access blocked A while ago an escalating series of temporary bans - a week, two weeks, a month, etc., for each successive

logic Vs faith

2002-12-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=26483 True believers are incapable or coming to correct logical conclusions. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Techno Dance Itch

2002-12-04 Thread Trent Shipley
Last week, being then employed and interested in social activity and exercise, I took a free dance lesson from an acquaintance. The main thing I learned was that music is a scarce and precious commodity in a dance studio. You can only put one, or at most two, sets of music over the loud

Re: world-mart: how wal-mart is destroying the economy and remakingthe world

2002-12-04 Thread Russell Chapman
Quote:Wal-Mart is now the world's biggest corporation, having passed ExxonMobil for the top slot. It hauls off a stunning $220 billion a year from We the People (more in revenues than the entire GDP of Israel and Ireland combined). I had no idea that Wal-Mart was so big - it's only 40 years

Re: Techno Dance Itch

2002-12-04 Thread Trent Shipley
Yeah. Well that's not quite _it_. The crucial feature is being able to *group* the receiver appliances into groups. What I observed was a single large dance floor. A divider effectively separated the floor into two rooms. For better or worse neither room was acoustically isolated. Each

Re: world-mart: how wal-mart is destroying the economy and remakingthe world

2002-12-04 Thread Russell Chapman
Trent Shipley wrote: Actually, that's not really fair. There have been real advances in the technology of retail in the 19th and 20th Centuries, and I expect more in the 21st. OK - I should have said in a purely traditional sector. By comparison to MS and Cisco etc who leveraged new stuff,

Re: Techno Dance Itch

2002-12-04 Thread Russell Chapman
Trent Shipley wrote: Yeah. Well that's not quite _it_. The crucial feature is being able to *group* the receiver appliances into groups. I *think* that's what these systems do. Some hear only the backing track (ie the filler stuff not being played by anyone on stage), some hear the music