On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
I knew he couldn't keep out of a debate that touched on philosophy!
How long did you hold out, Marvin? A week?
;)
Hey, that doesn't mean anything. It's not like I'm addicted or anything.
I can quit any time I want!
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Russell Chapman wrote:
How dirty can a ceiling get??
That depends on how often you use candles, oil lamps, oil simmerpots,
potpourri, and other things that put extra stuff in the air.
And how often you do experiments that involve making a working volcano model
on the living room coffee
The metric system wrong? That is heresy, heresy I tell ya! GRIN
http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/books/12/02/alder.measure/index.html
There is a message of hope near the end of the article, though:
Eventually, he says, Americans will fully adjust. The metric system was
meant to be global, and
Jeroen writes: you will have to remove Arnett from his position.
Methinky-thinks thou doth protest too much, Jeroen. At least as a Cassius to
Arnett's Caesar, plots upon plots circling in your mind, it shows on your
face and prompts us to say, 'ware Arnett! For Cassius was a man who
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of The Fool
...
Digital image stored in single molecule
10:15 01 December 02 NewScientist.com news service
An image composed of over 1000 of bits of information can be stored in
the atoms of a single
More good medical news.
Jon
PILL-SIZED CAMERA USED TO FIND TUMORS
CHICAGO (Dec. 4) - A pill-sized camera that can be swallowed and can explore
parts of the small intestine that other diagnostic techniques miss, allows
for improved detection of inflammatory bowel disorders, researchers reported
Yesterday, Jeroen van Baardwijk posted about 40 messages to the list and its
administrative address, all of which were re-postings of previous messages
that were not acceptable under the list policies or were repeats of previous
demands regarding the complaints that he has voiced on and off the
Nick Arnett wrote:
This is an action that I take only with GREAT reluctance. However, neither
Julia nor I is willing to endure harassment of this kind.
I appreciate those of you who have expressed your support during this
difficult episode. I hope we've found a reasonable series of steps to
Nick Arnett wrote:
This is an action that I take only with GREAT reluctance. However, neither
Julia nor I is willing to endure harassment of this kind.
I appreciate those of you who have expressed your support during this
difficult episode. I hope we've found a reasonable series of steps to
http://www.space.com/news/astronotes-1.html
High-flying satellites are helping United Nation
specialists look for Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.
[snip]
The usefulness of satellite snapshots is obvious
in a just-released picture taken by Space Imaging's
high-resolution
Nick Arnett wrote:
Reasons for blocking acces for a valued member of this community
Let me say this: I fully realise that Nick has the absolute right and power to
do this. It is afterall his list and he can do as he pleases wether I like it or
not. But I just wish he'd be honest about the
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/biztech/12/03/microsoft.sun.reut/index.html
or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V4EA529A2
BALTIMORE, Maryland (Reuters) -- A federal judge
hearing Sun Microsystems Inc.'s antitrust suit
against Microsoft Corp., said Tuesday that forcing
Microsoft to carry
From: Reggie Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Fox has booked Will Smith
to star in sci-fier I, Robot, an adaptation of
the 1940s Isaac Asimov short-story collection
that set the groundwork for robot films ranging
from The Terminator to A.I.,
- Original Message -
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
Nick Arnett wrote:
Reasons for blocking acces for a valued member of this community
Let me say this: I
Robert Seeberger wrote:
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From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
Nick Arnett wrote:
Reasons for blocking acces for a valued member of this
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten responded:
But I dont want to point this at you directly, even if you are getting
involved in this crap.
Yes you are. And no I'm not. I am however entitled to an opinion. Worse I'm even
(for now still) entitled to voicing that opinion, independent of what Jeroen or
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From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
not want you to see.
- Original Message -
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
not want you to see.
- Original Message -
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
not want you to see.
- Original Message -
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
not want you to see.
- Original Message -
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
not want you to see.
- Original Message -
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
not want you to see.
- Original Message -
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
not want you to see.
- Original Message -
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
not want you to see.
- Original Message -
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
not want you to see.
- Original Message -
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
not want you to see.
- Original Message -
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia
Thompson) did
not want you to see.
Please accept my apologies for this - I have started sending at least
5 replies to Jeroen for every spam I get, and he has apparently,
through a simple (and childish) trick, ensured they come to the list
as a whole.
Adam
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http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/04/coolsc.coolsc.mousegenome/
When it comes to DNA, it turns out there's not that much difference
between mice and men.
Mice and humans each have about 30,000 genes, yet only 300 are unique to
either organism. Both even have genes for a tail, even though
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 05:53:53PM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of The Fool
...
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/04/coolsc.coolsc.mousegenome/
When it comes to DNA, it turns out there's not
The Fool wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/04/coolsc.coolsc.mousegenome/
When it comes to DNA, it turns out there's not that much difference
between mice and men.
Mice and humans each have about 30,000 genes, yet only 300 are unique to
either organism. Both even have genes for a
http://cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/money/science_shopping/
http://cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/money/science_shopping/index2.html
Corporations are going to new lengths to probe the minds of consumers.
A company in Atlanta is
scanning people's brains with MRIs, in an effort to record our
Erik Reuter wrote:
I wouldn't mind having a *prehensile* tail. A useless drooping one
wouldn't be so useful, though.
Imagine the boost to the fashion industry... A whole new world of
possibilities...
Cheers
Russell C.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Erik Reuter
...
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 05:46:57PM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
Jeroen (which also allowed it to slip by sendmail's access block).
That message also contained a forged hostname:
http://cryptome.org/tia-eyeball.htm
http://sfweekly.com/issues/2002-11-27/smith.html/1/index.html
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Nick Arnett wrote:
This is an action that I take only with GREAT reluctance. However, neither
Julia nor I is willing to endure harassment of this kind.
...
I imagine that you have collect a lot of interesting material for your
study of internet communities and how they deal with a crisis.
At 11:48 PM 12/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
On 11/27/02 6:29 AM, Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your posts are too few and far between Matthew, but quality makes up for
quantity a hundred-fold.
You, my friend, have earned yourself a beer if we ever get the chance to
meet. And if you are in
Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000.
I had no idea you could sue for being banned from a free Internet mailing list. You
learn something new every day.
Jim
PS: FWIW, I don't know that Jeroen hasn't gotten the shaft just a little, but he makes
it darn hard to take his side.
- Original Message -
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: So how much is the participation on a mailing list worth?
Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000.
I had no idea you could sue for being banned from a free
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Russell Chapman wrote:
Imagine the boost to the fashion industry... A whole new world of
possibilities...
To hell with fashion. Porn!
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, David Hobby wrote:
I guess that I support Nick's action, anyway I gave up and
killfiled Jeroen for keeps weeks ago. We keep kicking around ideas
on easy ways to collectively deal with individuals who don't
respect etiquette. But until we do come up with one that
Not that this will be a surprise to anyone, but I completely support
Nick and Julia.
Jon
GSV ...For The Good Of The List...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Marvin Long, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:26 PM
To: [EMAIL
Which makes that the second time my new Outlook program has double-posted
something I only sent once to the list. My apologies. I'll try and fix the
sucker this evening.
Jon
GSV Now Where's That Blowtorch?
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And the result?
Tail Envy!
Jon
GSV insert your own well-endowed squirrel joke here
VFP *shudder*
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Marvin Long, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: meeces
On
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
At this point I'd say that if someone disagrees, it's his
obligation to say so.
If we are talking about a permanent ban, then I'd have to disagree. As much as I
think he doesn't know when to just say he's sorry and admit he might have been wrong
in his approach, I
Or the way things have been going lately, it'll be subpoenas envy.
(A joke recycled from the '60s.)
Nick
--
Nick Arnett
Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Jon Gabriel
Sent: Wednesday,
In a message dated 12/4/2002 6:13:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Please accept my apologies for this - I have started sending at least
5 replies to Jeroen for every spam I get, and he has apparently,
through a simple (and childish) trick, ensured they come to the
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Jim Sharkey
...
If we are talking about a permanent ban, then I'd have to
disagree. As much as I think he doesn't know when to just say
he's sorry and admit he might have been wrong in his approach,
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Nick Arnett wrote:
I hope that helps somehow. I'm always open to suggestions on how to make
the difficult trade-off between list governance and free-ranging discussion,
self-determination as a group, etc.
A while ago an escalating series of temporary bans - a week, two
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12962
http://www.rense.com/general32/myths.htm
http://www.clevescene.com/issues/2002-09-04/feature.html/1/index.html
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Jim Sharkey wrote:
Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000.
I had no idea you could sue for being banned from a free Internet
mailing list. You learn something new every day.
Did I miss something?
Julia
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- Original Message -
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: So how much is the participation on a mailing list worth?
Jim Sharkey wrote:
Apparently, it's worth $1,000,000.
I had no idea you could sue
- Original Message -
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:39 PM
Subject: RE: Admin: Server access blocked
A while ago an escalating series of temporary bans - a week, two weeks, a
month, etc., for each successive
http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=26483
True believers are incapable or coming to correct logical conclusions.
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Last week, being then employed and interested in social activity and exercise,
I took a free dance lesson from an acquaintance.
The main thing I learned was that music is a scarce and precious commodity in
a dance studio. You can only put one, or at most two, sets of music over the
loud
Quote:Wal-Mart is now the world's biggest corporation, having passed
ExxonMobil for the top slot. It hauls off a stunning $220 billion a year
from We the People (more in revenues than the entire GDP of Israel and
Ireland combined).
I had no idea that Wal-Mart was so big - it's only 40 years
Yeah. Well that's not quite _it_.
The crucial feature is being able to *group* the receiver appliances into
groups.
What I observed was a single large dance floor. A divider effectively
separated the floor into two rooms. For better or worse neither room was
acoustically isolated. Each
Trent Shipley wrote:
Actually, that's not really fair. There have been real advances in the
technology of retail in the 19th and 20th Centuries, and I expect more in the
21st.
OK - I should have said in a purely traditional sector. By comparison
to MS and Cisco etc who leveraged new stuff,
Trent Shipley wrote:
Yeah. Well that's not quite _it_.
The crucial feature is being able to *group* the receiver appliances into
groups.
I *think* that's what these systems do. Some hear only the backing track
(ie the filler stuff not being played by anyone on stage), some hear the
music
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