roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote:
> On 12/05/2009 10:39 PM, Steve Mosher wrote:
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>>Well, you are assuming facts not in evidence. Dale's case is somewhat
>> special.
>>
>
> You're right and I don't purport to be in possession of all the facts.
> The 9 months for which he had the device in
On 12/05/2009 8:42 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote:
> You're right on this one too. I bought it knowing it was not still an usabe
> phone, and I didn't care about it
Neither did I :)
I'm a big believer in putting one's self into other peoples shoes. Open
source, and the bigger picture, freedom of
On 12/05/2009 10:39 PM, Steve Mosher wrote:
>Well, you are assuming facts not in evidence. Dale's case is somewhat
> special.
You're right and I don't purport to be in possession of all the facts.
The 9 months for which he had the device in his possession, in my eyes,
signify his willingness
ya I got the mail. I'm in TPE. It's on my todo list. Watch for a mail.
Dale Maggee wrote:
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> Now you're just trying to confuse me... ;)
>
> ...I haven't received any reply to my off-list email yet... I presume
> you're looking into it?
>
>
> Ste
roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote:
> On 8/05/2009 6:58 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote:
>
>> Some time ago, I have recommended several friends*NOT* to buy a Freerunner,
>> because software was not ready. It was a great toy for me, but my friends
>> would get desperated. I think it's being open minded
On Tuesday 12 May 2009 08:01:47 roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote:
> On 8/05/2009 6:58 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote:
> > Some time ago, I have recommended several friends*NOT* to buy a
> > Freerunner, because software was not ready. It was a great toy for me,
> > but my friends would get desperated.
On 8/05/2009 6:58 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote:
> Some time ago, I have recommended several friends*NOT* to buy a Freerunner,
> because software was not ready. It was a great toy for me, but my friends
> would get desperated. I think it's being open minded (and being a good
> friend;)
>
> If som
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Now you're just trying to confuse me... ;)
...I haven't received any reply to my off-list email yet... I presume
you're looking into it?
Steve Mosher wrote:
> Best of all is to avoid hyperbolic claims of totalitarian behavior all
> together, since
Best of all is to avoid hyperbolic claims of totalitarian behavior all
together, since the claim, if true,
will never see the light of pixels, and if false, is self refuting.
That's my rhetorical observation for the day.
Dale Maggee wrote:
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O Sábado, 9 de Maio de 2009, Craig Woodward escribiu:
> David Garabana Barro wrote:
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> knew what you were getting into, bravo for you. For us, it doesn't make
> getting hit with a bat any more pleasurable, despite how much you tell us
> you enjoy it.
You could try to understand what I me
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For the Conspiracy Theorists out there: Steve and I are discussing this
off-list.
For everybody else: This list will now be free of my vitriol while Steve
and I talk. Enjoy.
Steve Mosher wrote:
> Dale Maggee wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> I appreciate your
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Shawn Rutledge wrote:
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Dale Maggee wrote:
>> Generally when I hear the word "nazi" used, it means "totalitarian", not
>> "monster" or "mass murderer" - think of the "soup nazi" in Seinfeld.
>> That's what I meant. Not
Dale Maggee wrote:
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> Hi Steve,
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> I appreciate your replying to this thread.
>
> I would however point out that I believe that you should have already
> been aware of this issue before I raised it in this public mailing list:
> I sent three email
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Dale Maggee wrote:
> Generally when I hear the word "nazi" used, it means "totalitarian", not
> "monster" or "mass murderer" - think of the "soup nazi" in Seinfeld.
> That's what I meant. Not the other. *At All*. Sorry.
That just goes to show the meaning has gotten
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Christoph Pulster wrote:
> IMO most misunderstandings happen because marketing of the Freerunner
> was focused on "mobile phone". So customers expect a mobile phone to use
> as a mobile phone. However Freerunner is a multi-purpose developement
>
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Get your facts straight...
> he doesn't use an fr
No, I don't use one, but I own one. That's the whole problem: I had to
buy another phone, just to have a phone.
> and he does in no way contribute
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool
> -- what
Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 18:12:47 schrieb Dale Maggee:
> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Marcel wrote:
> >> I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans
> >> in such
> >
> > I call for the rule of Godwin's Law!
> >
> > Rui
>
> I had
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Marcel wrote:
> Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 14:43:16 schrieb Dale Maggee:
>> arne anka wrote:
Guten Tag, Sieg Heil.
...
beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country
reflects that... :) )
>>> wow.
>>> insulting and sli
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Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Marcel wrote:
>> I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans in such
>
> I call for the rule of Godwin's Law!
>
> Rui
>
I had never heard of Godwin's
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Hi Steve,
I appreciate your replying to this thread.
I would however point out that I believe that you should have already
been aware of this issue before I raised it in this public mailing list:
I sent three emails to Openmoko asking about getting a
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Marcel wrote:
>> I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans in such
>
> I call for the rule of Godwin's Law!
>
> Rui
nice 1!
Franky
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Marcel wrote:
> I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans in such
I call for the rule of Godwin's Law!
Rui
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Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 14:43:16 schrieb Dale Maggee:
> arne anka wrote:
> >> Guten Tag, Sieg Heil.
> >> ...
> >> beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country
> >> reflects that... :) )
> >
> > wow.
> > insulting and slimy at once!
>
> I'd just like to say thanks for addressing t
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arne anka wrote:
> so, how is a globally true statement of "fit to be used as ..."
> possible?
> it might be true for _you_, but it isn't for _me_ -- so please, always be
> aware that those statemants express only _your_ point of view, not an
> obj
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Thank you very much for a rational contribution to this thread, Franky.
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:44 AM, arne anka wrote:
> Bitter much? : )
nope. he's just a troll.
>>> Before I bought My Neo, I was told
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arne anka wrote:
Bitter much? : )
>>> nope. he's just a troll.
>>>
>> Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone.
>
> dale, you told us all of this already -- at least ten times.
Sources? I don't think it has been ten
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arne anka wrote:
>> Guten Tag, Sieg Heil.
>> ...
>> beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country reflects
>> that... :) )
>
> wow.
> insulting and slimy at once!
>
I'd just like to say thanks for addressing the points I make in su
Cant let this pass ...
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 11:33 +0200, arne anka wrote:
> > Hmmm ... I do contribute and I do use my freerunner (sometimes, mostly
> yeah, and there we are again.
> _i_ for one do not have complaints (at least no significant amount
> different from other phones i used) about
> Hmmm ... I do contribute and I do use my freerunner (sometimes, mostly
> for testing only). So I want to react for once as well:
then there's no need for you to feel addressed :-)
> You see, in the end, Dale's not that wrong: a year after I bought the
> phone, I would at least expect a stable s
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:44 AM, arne anka wrote:
Bitter much? : )
>>>
>>> nope. he's just a troll.
>>>
>>
>> Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone.
>
> dale, you told us all of this already -- at least ten times.
> you put up your freerunner for sale at ebay
On Friday 08 May 2009 09:47:00 Christoph Pulster wrote:
> Please discuss different point of views and dont call Dave a troll.
> The fact is, Freerunner was promoted as a phone. A lot of customers are
> not happy with the Freerunner as a daily phone. Sales are running very
> low for this reason.
A
> I appreciate there is a very high identification with the product among
> the remaining users. But please dont behave like this is the Scientology
> mailinglist. Using an open phone obliges you to be open minded :-)
it has nothing to with "identification" but with dale's way to act.
he doesn't u
> Guten Tag, Sieg Heil.
> ...
> beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country reflects
> that... :) )
wow.
insulting and slimy at once!
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>>> Bitter much? : )
>>
>> nope. he's just a troll.
>>
>
> Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone.
dale, you told us all of this already -- at least ten times.
you put up your freerunner for sale at ebay months ago.
you don't write anything productive on this list.
Hi Dale.
I got a note from the people who handle these issues. In looking
through our store records
we were unable to find any order from you at openmoko.com. That
doesn't mean
you haven't purchased a phone. If you could, provide me with the
details of your
purchase. Who you bo
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Guten Tag, Sieg Heil.
Seriously... You may not have heard of it, but There's a concept that's
been around for a while called "Free speech"... you know, as opposed to
"free beer".
"Goebbels was in favour of free speech for views he liked. So was
Stali
seriously... go write the prime minister or something. if your not
going to contribute your just wasting everyone else's time
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Dale Maggee wrote:
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>>> Bitter much? : )
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>> nope. he's just a trol
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arne anka wrote:
>> Bitter much? : )
>
> nope. he's just a troll.
>
Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone.
Once I got it and said "WTF This doesn't work as a phone!" I was told by
OM that 2008.8 would. So I waited.
As a matter of fact, it's really slow to tar -xf .tar file, compared
with my 2440 demo board.
I takes me half a day to unzip the file system to sd card with fso
image.
If it's with my demo board to unzip, very quick, about 10min or so.
What's wrong with fso image to unzip the tar package?
On T
arne anka wrote:
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>
> nope. he's just a troll.
>
>
he's just saying what a lot of people are thinking
I still hope to use my OM for *something*, but the chances of it ever being
a reliable mobile phone are looking pretty slim.
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On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 07:12:25AM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote:
> You could always use the .tar.gz on an sd card ( It boots way faster
> that way anyway :)
NAND flash ought to be a lot faster than Glamo's MMC interface. Where is
the bug? FWIW, I tried a simple hdparm run on NOR flash, NAND flas
Am Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2009 00:33:12 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen:
> On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:31:47PM +0200, Pander wrote:
> > For better compatability between deb and opkg, I am still in favour
> > of using the debian/ubuntu categories in opkg. See this thread from
> > December:
> > http://list
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Hehe, what gave you that idea? ;)
Yogiz wrote:
> Bitter much? : )
>
> On Wed, 06 May 2009 18:09:35 +1000
> Dale Maggee wrote:
>
> Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
summer?)
> My guess
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:09:35 Dale Maggee wrote:
> Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> > The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
> > summer?)
>
> My guess would be that a whole lot of people have realised that their
> $400 Neo is better used as a boat anchor, and put them on ebay.
> Bitter much? : )
nope. he's just a troll.
> On Wed, 06 May 2009 18:09:35 +1000
> Dale Maggee wrote:
...
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Bitter much? : )
On Wed, 06 May 2009 18:09:35 +1000
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> Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> > The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
> > summer?)
>
> My guess would be that a whole lot of people have realised t
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Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
> summer?)
My guess would be that a whole lot of people have realised that their
$400 Neo is better used as a boat anchor, and put them on ebay. or in
the microw
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:31:47PM +0200, Pander wrote:
> For better compatability between deb and opkg, I am still in favour of
> using the debian/ubuntu categories in opkg. See this thread from December:
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-December/038472.html
> and
> http://lis
Angus Ainslie-2 (via Nabble) a écrit :
> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:04 -0700, KaZeR wrote:
> >
> > I'll try to test OM2009 soon, because, you're right, it needs user
> feedback.
> > But i didn't really want to wipe my working phone.
> >
> >
>
> You could always use the .tar.gz on an sd card ( It bo
i barely use my phone so openmoko is working great as a ogg and gps tool.
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Angus Ainslie wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:04 -0700, KaZeR wrote:
>>
>> I'll try to test OM2009 soon, because, you're right, it needs user feedback.
>> But i didn't really want to wipe m
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:04 -0700, KaZeR wrote:
>
> I'll try to test OM2009 soon, because, you're right, it needs user feedback.
> But i didn't really want to wipe my working phone.
>
>
You could always use the .tar.gz on an sd card ( It boots way faster
that way anyway :)
Angus
Marcel wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 08:27:59 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
>> OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the
>> list about it.
>> New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50
>> mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in M
Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 08:27:59 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
> OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the
> list about it.
> New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50
> mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze
> than OM200
>Edit /etc/paroli.cfg (or /etc/paroli/paroli.conf, look for it since I
>don't know from heart and the phone is in another room), and set to
>true the activated status of "advanced" and restart paroli.
lol
a few corrections only: in /etc/paroli/paroli.conf enable settings:
[settings]
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:22:03PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote:
>> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>>
>> > The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
>> > summer?) and the the community do
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:22:03PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote:
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>
> > The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
> > summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for
> > One Working Distro. We have
David Samblas Martinez wrote:
>
> 2009/5/5 Risto H. Kurppa :
>> The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
>> summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for
>> One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far
>> as I know (I haven
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:22 PM, rakshat hooja wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>
>> The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
>> summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for
>> One Working Distro. We have about 1
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
> summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for
> One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far
> as I know (I haven't tested t
2009/5/5 Risto H. Kurppa :
> The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
> summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for
> One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far
> as I know (I haven't tested them all..), they all are 'devel
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 09:27:59 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
> summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for
> One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far
> as I know (I haven't tested them
The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the
summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for
One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far
as I know (I haven't tested them all..), they all are 'developer
skills required', not 'consume
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