Re: xlibmesa-mach64-dri

2004-11-14 Thread David Baron
On Sunday 14 November 2004 15:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have this as part of the struggle to get dri working on the old ATI > > rage pro clunker. Finally did compile a mach64.ko and got it working. The > > question is: Do I need this particular package? > > > > Any open-GL library I try t

Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?

2004-11-14 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 10:33:32PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 01:43:38PM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 11:36:00AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 01:12:47AM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > > > > Aptitude does an OK job in this r

Re: I need a fast installation method

2004-11-14 Thread Bradley Alexander
On Sunday 14 November 2004 20:20, Nicolas Patik wrote: > Hi, I was wondering which are your favorites fast installation methods? > > I need to have ready a fast install method, > what do you suggest? > anything apt related? > or creating my own CD? > or a NFS install? > > Is it possible to install

Re: why debian - longer

2004-11-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 08:25:19PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > I don't need to know which directories > to tar, they're in the dpkg. > If you ever need to insert raw .debs from scratch: ar -x on the .deb yields a control.tar.gz and a data.tar.gz. cp or mv the data.tar.gz to / and unpack it with

Re: why debian

2004-11-14 Thread paul wise
> apt-get install anarchism I prefer the tshirt version: http://laughingmeme.org/img/release-candidate-1.png -- Bye, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?

2004-11-14 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 01:43:38PM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 11:36:00AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 01:12:47AM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > > > Aptitude does an OK job in this respect. It doesn't make conflict > > > resolution completely obvious

Re: why debian

2004-11-14 Thread William Ballard
> Mark Crean wrote: > >Debian must be fantastic as a server OS (though I've never had trouble > >in three and a half years with SuSE for httpd, ftp, mail, so far) but it > >seems too rough on the desktop, lacking in polish and with the Debian > >system of commands in many ways more complicated t

Re: GDM display blank on logout

2004-11-14 Thread John Smith
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 18:07, Aniruddha Kibey wrote: > hi all > Sorry if this is a repost but I havent recieved any messages that i > have recently posted back. They also dont show up in the list archives > I am using Debian sid , at start up the GDM display comes out proper > , but when I log o

Re: why debian

2004-11-14 Thread Steve Lamb
Mark Crean wrote: Debian must be fantastic as a server OS (though I've never had trouble in three and a half years with SuSE for httpd, ftp, mail, so far) but it seems too rough on the desktop, lacking in polish and with the Debian system of commands in many ways more complicated than the rpm an

Re: Migrating from qmail: which MTA?

2004-11-14 Thread David Garamond
Ollie Acheson wrote: I guess my first question is why do you want to stop using qmail? It's highly secure and robust, plus you have already climbed its learning curve. The reasons are partly convenience and partly a political decision. We try to use only packages from the official main Debian arch

Re: why debian - longer

2004-11-14 Thread Steve Lamb
Alvin Oga wrote: in my book, there is no significant advantage to make-kpkg + dpkg Except that dpkg is the standard tool for Debian. Once built for that it is trivial to get from one machine to the next. If we're talking kernel compiles on Debian that's why it is better. Why am I on Debia

Re: mysql-server dependency

2004-11-14 Thread David Garamond
Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 09:48:53PM +0700, David Garamond wrote: Why does the mysql-server package depend on mailx? I don't see something like this on Redhat's package, for example. Because of the checks for corrupt database tables that the initscript for it makes on every startu

Re: why debian - longer

2004-11-14 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya nathan bottom line as has been previous stated by others too - you can do your way .. others can do it their way regardless of which way is better in our view On Sun, 14 Nov 2004, Nathanael Hasbrouck wrote: > > > $ fakeroot make-kpkg -rev `hostname`.1 kernel_image > > > $

Re: [OT] Printing hardcopy from an application

2004-11-14 Thread David
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 06:28:57AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > David wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 04:33:52PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >>I use Qt from Trolltech for that sort of stuff. Granted that means C++. > >>If that is no problem, everything becomes easier because you use its

Re: [OT] Printing hardcopy from an application

2004-11-14 Thread David
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 09:08:58AM -0600, Brad Sims wrote: > Another simple idea would be to pass your output to a2ps or muttprint. That would work quite nicely, but I would like to do a wee bit of text formatting. I would like to change my font sizes in a place or two, and, just guessing, you co

Re: Migrating from qmail: which MTA?

2004-11-14 Thread Ollie Acheson
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 10:40:13PM +0700, David Garamond wrote: > David Garamond wrote: > >We are planning to migrate a bunch of hosting servers from RH73 + qmail > >+ vmailmgr to Sarge and I'd appreciate on the comments of the choice of > >MTA to use. > > Oh, I should add that I'm pretty cluele

Re: weird Mozilla progress report

2004-11-14 Thread Greg Madden
On Sunday 14 November 2004 06:15 am, stephen parkinson wrote: > libranet 2.8.1 + upgrades as per repositries > > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041007 > Debian/1.7.3-5 > > downloading a 2.4Gb dvd iso image > > download manager reports time left as 0-47:0-36:0-30 > transfe

Re: I need a fast installation method

2004-11-14 Thread Greg Madden
On Sunday 14 November 2004 04:20 pm, Nicolas Patik wrote: > Hi, I was wondering which are your favorites fast installation > methods? > > I need to have ready a fast install method, > what do you suggest? > anything apt related? > or creating my own CD? > or a NFS install? > > Is it possible to ins

I need a fast installation method

2004-11-14 Thread Nicolas Patik
Hi, I was wondering which are your favorites fast installation methods? I need to have ready a fast install method, what do you suggest? anything apt related? or creating my own CD? or a NFS install? Is it possible to install from only one floppy? Thanks, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

RE: Limiting User Commands

2004-11-14 Thread Michael Graham
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 20:58:33 +0100, Dan Roozemond wrote: > Suppose the root-owned file (readable for non-root user) is a. Then one does > 'cp a b; rm a; mv b a' and we have the same file a owned by the regular > user. Key observation here is that the non-root user ownes the directory, > hence can r

Re: weird Mozilla progress report

2004-11-14 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 03:15:00PM +, stephen parkinson wrote: > download manager reports time left as 0-47:0-36:0-30 > transferred as -2044276kb of 2097152kb at -24.1kb/s > > any ideas ? read bug reports and ask better questions bugzilla would be a good place to start -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Choosing a flavor of Debian? --> bf2.4 HOW???

2004-11-14 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 10:51:55PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Choosing a flavor of Debian: BF2.4 > > In the installation for Debian "Woody" it recommended that you use > bf2.4 if you have a usb keyboard and mouse. This fits my hardware > configuration perfectly. My question is this: >

User Mode Linux

2004-11-14 Thread SmileyByte
Hello, I've been trying to use the package user-mode-linux under Debian, but I've got some problems. First, I tried using the debian root image found at usermodelinux.sf.net; couldn't make it work, and finally tried the slackware one. That is working well, but I can't make the eth0 interface work

Re: exim4-daemon-heavy, fetctmail and infected emails

2004-11-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerome BENOIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I decided to delete infected emails fetched with fetchmail. > Currently the infected emails are just marked "INFECTED" by exim4 > throught a "warn message ..." instruction: > ho can I order to exim4 to delet

Re: files always corrupt

2004-11-14 Thread Robert Storey
Worst-case scenario is a bad motherboard. But try Henrique's suggestions first, you might be lucky. And yes, let us know how it turns out. regards, Robert On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:08:54 -0200 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 14 Nov 2004, Dan McCullough wrote: > >

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-14 Thread Jeremy Turner
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 08:08:57PM -0800, ken keanon wrote: > 1. The volunteers decided that there should be some financial reward for > their work. They could accept an offer by a well established enterprise to > 'buy' over their work or they could collectively decide to form a > corporation.

Re: why debian

2004-11-14 Thread Tim Kelley
On Sunday 14 November 2004 11:47, Alexandru Cabuz wrote: > Debian and actually the whole free software community would be an > awesome case study in political theory. It's been done, people just have a short memory. In fact, it's a little unnerving that software developers are so ignorant of pol

Re: Choosing a flavor of Debian? --> bf2.4 HOW???

2004-11-14 Thread Roberto Sanchez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Choosing a flavor of Debian: BF2.4 In the installation for Debian "Woody" it recommended that you use bf2.4 if you have a usb keyboard and mouse. This fits my hardware configuration perfectly. My question is this: I downloaded US Disc #1. Is this the right disc to

Re: files always corrupt

2004-11-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 14 Nov 2004, Dan McCullough wrote: I'm rebuilding a server that is in my home office, yes I built it myself. I'm at my wits end. When I download, load from a cd the files are always corrupt. If I take the har drives out and install in another machine I c

Re: weird Mozilla progress report

2004-11-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
stephen parkinson wrote: libranet 2.8.1 + upgrades as per repositries Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041007 Debian/1.7.3-5 downloading a 2.4Gb dvd iso image download manager reports time left as 0-47:0-36:0-30 transferred as -2044276kb of 2097152kb at -24.1kb/s That may

Choosing a flavor of Debian? --> bf2.4 HOW???

2004-11-14 Thread mj-barton
Choosing a flavor of Debian: BF2.4   In the installation for Debian "Woody" it recommended that you use bf2.4 if you have a usb keyboard and mouse.  This fits my hardware configuration perfectly.  My question is this:   I downloaded US Disc #1.  Is this the right disc to use bf2.4 installation met

Re: cd burning problem

2004-11-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 14 November 2004 15:13, Joris Huizer wrote: > I tried kernel 2.6.8 and it worked fine -- but I got myself into a cd > burning problem. > The first time under kernel 2.6.8 , cdrecord did work, but because of > too much business in the computer (other programs running, and the fact > that

Re: why debian - longer

2004-11-14 Thread Jeremy Turner
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 09:03:25PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > - not to be nit picky .. but just a comment > > assuming that the /usr/src/linux/.config is configured properly Comparing compiling a kernel using make-kpkg or the old fashioned way with both requires the .config file to be modified wi

Re: why debian

2004-11-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 14 November 2004 21:34, Mark Crean wrote: > Difficult question. The Debian project is wonderful from many > perspectives, but except on philosophical grounds it's hard to see why > an ordinary desktop user would choose it in preference to SuSE, > Mandrake, Xandros or another distro known

Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?

2004-11-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 14 November 2004 19:36, Marc Wilson wrote: > Aptitude shouldn't be used until its fundamental breakages are resolved. What sort of statement is that? I use aptitude all the time - I can't see anything broken with it. -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] First they ignore you, then the

Re: Migrating from qmail: which MTA?

2004-11-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 14 November 2004 21:38, michael wrote: > Folks - a quite one... > > With ssh on my Debian server I do not seem to be able to tunnel X back > to the client (however, from the client I can successfully tunnel X back > when connecting to another client). Obviously I'm doing something wrong >

Re: Migrating from qmail: which MTA?

2004-11-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 14 November 2004 15:19, David Garamond wrote: > We are planning to migrate a bunch of hosting servers from RH73 + qmail > + vmailmgr to Sarge and I'd appreciate on the comments of the choice of > MTA to use. > > Requirements: > - Maildir support; > - Software binary packages are in the ma

Re: why debian - longer

2004-11-14 Thread Nathanael Hasbrouck
On Sunday 14 November 2004 0003, somebody named Alvin Oga inscribed this message: > > Too many extra hoops? > > > > $ fakeroot make-kpkg -rev `hostname`.1 kernel_image > > $ sudo dpkg -i ../kernel-imagedeb > > update lilo/grub [if needed] > > assuming that the /usr/src/linux/.config is confi

Re: ssh -X woes

2004-11-14 Thread Roberto Sanchez
michael wrote: sorry about the wrong subject, initially. i should also have said that DISPLAY is not set on the remote machine (using ssh -X) Make sure that the remote machine has /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth (from the xbase-clients) package installed. Without it you will not be able to setup the DISPLA

ssh -X woes

2004-11-14 Thread michael
sorry about the wrong subject, initially. i should also have said that DISPLAY is not set on the remote machine (using ssh -X) --- Begin Message --- Folks - a quite one... With ssh on my Debian server I do not seem to be able to tunnel X back to the client (however, from the client I can successf

RE: why debian

2004-11-14 Thread Steven Jones
ken keanon wrote: > Hi, > > There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why > Debian should be the preferred choice? > Use the one (Linux) you are most comfortable with. Debian has some advantages, 1) IMHO, the quality of the distribution is amongst the highest, if no

Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?

2004-11-14 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 11:36:00AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 01:12:47AM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > > Aptitude does an OK job in this respect. It doesn't make conflict > > resolution completely obvious, but the information is there. > > Aptitude shouldn't be used until

Re: Migrating from qmail: which MTA?

2004-11-14 Thread michael
Folks - a quite one... With ssh on my Debian server I do not seem to be able to tunnel X back to the client (however, from the client I can successfully tunnel X back when connecting to another client). Obviously I'm doing something wrong but any ideas? Here's the output from the remote machine:

Re: why debian

2004-11-14 Thread Mark Crean
ken keanon wrote: Hi, There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why Debian should be the preferred choice? Difficult question. The Debian project is wonderful from many perspectives, but except on philosophical grounds it's hard to see why an ordinary desktop user wou

Re: Debian and spam

2004-11-14 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Chris Lale: > On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 17:21, s. keeling wrote: > > > > [snip] > > Thanks! Works with slight modification: > > for f in cur/*; do > perl adcomplain.pl < $f .. > done You can fix that with chmod: chmod 744 adcomplain.pl and move adcomplain.pl to one of

Re: Debian and spam

2004-11-14 Thread Chris Lale
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 17:21, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Chris Lale: > > On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 23:04, Carl Fink wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 12:15:00PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > > > > I tend to prefer real email management over fake email address hacks. > > > > Keeps everyth

Re: Migrating from qmail: which MTA?

2004-11-14 Thread Cristi Banciu
robin wrote: Looking via synaptic: qmail-src Source only package for building qmail binary package qmail is a secure Secure, reliable, efficient, simple mail transport system. Or you can use precompiled binary packages http://smarden.org/pape/Debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: exim4-daemon-heavy, fetctmail and infected emails

2004-11-14 Thread Steven Jones
How about adding clamav? regards Thing -Original Message- From: Jerome BENOIT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 November 2004 8:26 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: exim4-daemon-heavy, fetctmail and infected emails Hello List, I decided to delete infected emails fetched wit

Setting up libsdl

2004-11-14 Thread debian
I have set up Debian 3 and am trying to run prboom, but it uses aalib, so I get a text rendition rather than svga. How can I change this? I'm using woody. Regards - Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?

2004-11-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --- Mirek Stefanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it was >> done. Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, and > > This i

Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?

2004-11-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mirek Stefanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it > was done. Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, > and first start of any application (konsole, mozilla) takes a lon

Re: Seems like xMule crashed

2004-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 21:54 +0100, Christian Christmann wrote: > > Christian Christmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> [snip] > > > > Also, what did you find when you checked the BTS? > Sorry, but what is a BTS? The Bug Tracking System. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ http://bugs.debian.org/xmule

Re: Seems like xMule crashed

2004-11-14 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 the mental interface of Christian Christmann told: > > Christian Christmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> [...] > > > > Also, what did you find when you checked the BTS? > Sorry, but what is a BTS? $ dict BTS 3 definitions found From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computin

Re: Seems like xMule crashed

2004-11-14 Thread Christian Christmann
> Christian Christmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> my xmule was running fine for weeks. Today I run an aptitude update && >> aptitute upgrade on my sarge box and xmule has been upgraded to version >> 1.9.4b-1. Now, xmule is permanently crashing after some minutes with the >> error m

Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?

2004-11-14 Thread Kent West
Mirek Stefanski wrote: I removed (purged) all desktop (lastly was installed gnome -similiar behavior - but why?) packages and installed kde-core package. Start time about 10-12 minutes. Then I renamed Desktop and all .k* files in my home directory and ... similiar results (next restart after Conf

Re: mysql-server dependency

2004-11-14 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 09:48:53PM +0700, David Garamond wrote: > Why does the mysql-server package depend on mailx? I don't see something > like this on Redhat's package, for example. Because of the checks for corrupt database tables that the initscript for it makes on every startup. How else d

exim4-daemon-heavy, fetctmail and infected emails

2004-11-14 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List, I decided to delete infected emails fetched with fetchmail. Currently the infected emails are just marked "INFECTED" by exim4 throught a "warn message ..." instruction: ho can I order to exim4 to delete infected emails ? Thanks in advance, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?

2004-11-14 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 01:12:47AM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > Aptitude does an OK job in this respect. It doesn't make conflict > resolution completely obvious, but the information is there. Aptitude shouldn't be used until its fundamental breakages are resolved. -- Marc Wilson | FORTUNE

Re: Migrating from qmail: which MTA?

2004-11-14 Thread robin
David Garamond wrote: Cristi Banciu wrote: We are planning to migrate a bunch of hosting servers from RH73 + qmail + vmailmgr to Sarge and I'd appreciate on the comments of the choice of MTA to use. Oh, I should add that I'm pretty clueless when it comes to other MTAs. I've used qmail ever sin

Re: cd burning problem

2004-11-14 Thread Joris Huizer
Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 04:13:44PM +0100, Joris Huizer wrote: Hello, Sorry for reposting -- I accidentilly removed the mails from debian-users without checking wether my question was answered (it doesn't show up in the debian logs though) And you didn't check the archive at list

Re: Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?

2004-11-14 Thread Mirek Stefanski
Thanks All, Ken wrote: "For diagnostic purposes, create a new user, and log in to KDE as that user. Does that user have a slow login also? If not, the problem is in your personal KDE settings. If so, then it's a system-wide problem. But I suspect it's in your files rather than system-wide, thus thi

Re: Seems like xMule crashed

2004-11-14 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 20:09:05 +0100 Christian Christmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > my xmule was running fine for weeks. Today I run an aptitude update && > aptitute upgrade on my sarge box and xmule has been upgraded to version > 1.9.4b-1. Now, xmule is permanently crashing after some

Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?

2004-11-14 Thread Guillermo Ballester Valor
El Domingo, 14 de Noviembre de 2004 13:29, Mirek Stefanski escribió: > Hi All, > > On my home PC (333MHZ Celeron, 192MB RAM) I was happy user of Woody with > KDE (regullary updated) as my desktop env. Graphical desktop started > about 1-2 minutes and after next 1 minute I had fully functional des

Seems like xMule crashed

2004-11-14 Thread Christian Christmann
Hi, my xmule was running fine for weeks. Today I run an aptitude update && aptitute upgrade on my sarge box and xmule has been upgraded to version 1.9.4b-1. Now, xmule is permanently crashing after some minutes with the error message: " OOPS! - Seems like xMule crashed --== BACKTRACE FOLLOWS: ==--

Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?

2004-11-14 Thread Cousin Stanley
| On my home PC (333MHZ Celeron, 192MB RAM) | I was happy user of Woody with KDE (regullary updated) | as my desktop env. | | Graphical desktop started about 1-2 minutes | and after next 1 minute I had fully functional desktop. | | But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge | - after one day battle

Re: why debian

2004-11-14 Thread Alexandru Cabuz
> The failure of 'democracies' (even this quoting will not hold it for > ever) is in the fact that everybody believes to be entitled to judge > everything, and to issue a directing opinion on every matter and > aspect of life. As a result, the average level constantly is lowered, > to accomodate th

"democracy"

2004-11-14 Thread Curt Howland
Luckily, Debian isn't a democracy. It's a voluntary association. That is the reason that I began using the Debian distribution in the first place. Unlike a democracy, the "majority" cannot force its views on the "minority". Anyone who doesn't like the Debian policies, or the election or decisi

Re: Debian and spam

2004-11-14 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Chris Lale: > On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 23:04, Carl Fink wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 12:15:00PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > > I tend to prefer real email management over fake email address hacks. > > > Keeps everything simpler, makes the spam easier to report, etc. > > > >

Re: files always corrupt

2004-11-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004, Dan McCullough wrote: > I'm rebuilding a server that is in my home office, yes I built it myself. > I'm at my wits end. When I download, load from a cd the files are always > corrupt. If I take the har drives out and install in another machine I > can install without any issu

GDM display blank on logout

2004-11-14 Thread Aniruddha Kibey
hi all Sorry if this is a repost but I havent recieved any messages that i have recently posted back. They also dont show up in the list archives I am using Debian sid , at start up the GDM display comes out proper , but when I log out the screen comes out blank. I tried searching the list an

files always corrupt

2004-11-14 Thread Dan McCullough
I'm rebuilding a server that is in my home office, yes I built it myself.  I'm at my wits end.  When I download, load from a cd the files are always corrupt.  If I take the har drives out and install in another machine I can install without any issue.  I've done CD install from CD-RWs, CD media pur

Re: about dhcp client and cdroms

2004-11-14 Thread "Sergio Cuéllar"
Ron, I have reconfigured discover (that actually is discover1, : ) ) but it didnt create the symbolic links, so ive created manually the mountpoints and disable discover to manage this mountpoints, and the problem is now resolved. If the machine doesnt have udev installed, is it necessary to hav

Re: Migrating from qmail: which MTA?

2004-11-14 Thread David Garamond
Cristi Banciu wrote: We are planning to migrate a bunch of hosting servers from RH73 + qmail + vmailmgr to Sarge and I'd appreciate on the comments of the choice of MTA to use. Oh, I should add that I'm pretty clueless when it comes to other MTAs. I've used qmail ever since I've used Linux (aro

Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?

2004-11-14 Thread Roy Pluschke
On November 14, 2004 05:16, Thomas Adam wrote: > --- Mirek Stefanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it was > > done. Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, and > > This is normal for KDE. > No its not! I have a si

Re: Debian and spam

2004-11-14 Thread Chris Lale
On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 23:04, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 12:15:00PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > I tend to prefer real email management over fake email address hacks. > > Keeps everything simpler, makes the spam easier to report, etc. > > Who are you reporting spam to, anyway?

Re: cd burning problem

2004-11-14 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 04:13:44PM +0100, Joris Huizer wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry for reposting -- I accidentilly removed the mails from > debian-users without checking wether my question was answered (it > doesn't show up in the debian logs though) And you didn't check the archive at lists.debi

Re: Migrating from qmail: which MTA?

2004-11-14 Thread Cristi Banciu
David Garamond wrote: David Garamond wrote: We are planning to migrate a bunch of hosting servers from RH73 + qmail + vmailmgr to Sarge and I'd appreciate on the comments of the choice of MTA to use. Oh, I should add that I'm pretty clueless when it comes to other MTAs. I've used qmail ever sin

Re: Migrating from qmail: which MTA?

2004-11-14 Thread David Garamond
David Garamond wrote: We are planning to migrate a bunch of hosting servers from RH73 + qmail + vmailmgr to Sarge and I'd appreciate on the comments of the choice of MTA to use. Oh, I should add that I'm pretty clueless when it comes to other MTAs. I've used qmail ever since I've used Linux (aro

weird Mozilla progress report

2004-11-14 Thread stephen parkinson
libranet 2.8.1 + upgrades as per repositries Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041007 Debian/1.7.3-5 downloading a 2.4Gb dvd iso image download manager reports time left as 0-47:0-36:0-30 transferred as -2044276kb of 2097152kb at -24.1kb/s any ideas ? stephen -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-14 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I've also been watching the "Why Debian?" thread with great interest. I started using Debian in 1995 because I liked the idea of cooperative development. I am an advocate of unanimity, I believe that the best in people is a matter of interested individuals wor

Migrating from qmail: which MTA?

2004-11-14 Thread David Garamond
We are planning to migrate a bunch of hosting servers from RH73 + qmail + vmailmgr to Sarge and I'd appreciate on the comments of the choice of MTA to use. Requirements: - Maildir support; - Software binary packages are in the main Debian archive (so we are guaranteed prompt security updates wh

cd burning problem

2004-11-14 Thread Joris Huizer
Hello, Sorry for reposting -- I accidentilly removed the mails from debian-users without checking wether my question was answered (it doesn't show up in the debian logs though) I tried kernel 2.6.8 and it worked fine -- but I got myself into a cd burning problem. The first time under kernel 2.6.

Re: [OT] Printing hardcopy from an application

2004-11-14 Thread Brad Sims
Another simple idea would be to pass your output to a2ps or muttprint. -- I came; I saw; I frelled up -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

mysql-server dependency

2004-11-14 Thread David Garamond
Why does the mysql-server package depend on mailx? I don't see something like this on Redhat's package, for example. Regards, dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: xlibmesa-mach64-dri

2004-11-14 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004, Andrea Vettorello wrote: > On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:32:40 +0200, David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have this as part of the struggle to get dri working on the old ATI rage > > pro > > clunker. Finally did compile a mach64.ko and got it working. The question > > is:

Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?

2004-11-14 Thread Kent West
Mirek Stefanski wrote: Hi All, On my home PC (333MHZ Celeron, 192MB RAM) I was happy user of Woody with KDE (regullary updated) as my desktop env. Graphical desktop started about 1-2 minutes and after next 1 minute I had fully functional desktop. But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - aft

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-14 Thread John Hasler
cr writes: > In very general terms - as I understand it the restriction is the US ban > on the export of 'encryption software'. That was dropped years ago. > How Micro$oft get around it I don't know, maybe they've just got big > lawyers and lots of influence. They have to get licenses in advance

Re: boot failure

2004-11-14 Thread Kent West
Dan Davison wrote: Any help with the following would be much appreciated: I was attempting to update a kernel from 2.2.20 to 2.6.8 and it seems now that neither of the kernel links in the lilo menu will boot. Both exit with the same kernel panic message and the output up to that point appears to be

Re: boot failure

2004-11-14 Thread Eric Dickner
--- Dan Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I answered yes to the > question resulting from dpkg -i about making > modifications to lilo... > > Dan This was a mistake. It shouldn't be but it is and the same thing happened to me. I was forced to use the boot floppy to boot and then went to the

GDM display blank on logout

2004-11-14 Thread Aniruddha Kibey
hi I am using Debian sid while logging in during start up the GDM display is proper,while on logging out the display gets blank. Apparently the system goes to the GDM screen only the display is blanked out. I have tried searching the list and on google but not much help.

Re: why debian

2004-11-14 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 14 Nov 2004, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 07:27:25PM -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > > The core user base (Debian devl) is not necessarily the democratic > > majority of users. If you like to believe in the social contract, > > users, afaikt, are anyone who uses Debian. There

Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?

2004-11-14 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Mirek Stefanski (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > On my home PC (333MHZ Celeron, 192MB RAM) I was happy user of Woody > with KDE (regullary updated) as my desktop env. Graphical desktop > started about 1-2 minutes and after next 1 minute I had fully > functional desktop. > > But one day I

Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?

2004-11-14 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Mirek Stefanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it was > done. Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, and This is normal for KDE. -- Thomas Adam = "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net

weird NFS errors - Can't callback 127.0.0.1

2004-11-14 Thread Dale E. Martin
Nov 14 07:29:17 chinchilla rpc.statd[437]: notify_host: failed to notify 127.0.0.1 Nov 14 07:29:47 chinchilla rpc.statd[437]: Can't callback 127.0.0.1 (100021,4), giving up. Any thoughts about what might be causing these? I've googled these messages a few times over the last several years but nev

Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?

2004-11-14 Thread Mirek Stefanski
Hi All, On my home PC (333MHZ Celeron, 192MB RAM) I was happy user of Woody with KDE (regullary updated) as my desktop env. Graphical desktop started about 1-2 minutes and after next 1 minute I had fully functional desktop. But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it was

Re: [OT] Printing hardcopy from an application

2004-11-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
David wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 04:33:52PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: David wrote: I know this has nothing to do with Debian, but, really, I don't know exactly where to ask this question anyway. I have a program for my personal use, written in C. It's a records-keeping application. So far

Re: why debian

2004-11-14 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 07:27:25PM -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > The core user base (Debian devl) is not necessarily the democratic > majority of users. If you like to believe in the social contract, > users, afaikt, are anyone who uses Debian. There are far more 'users' > than developers but no r

Re: about dhcp client and cdroms

2004-11-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 14 November 2004 02:05, "Sergio Cuéllar" wrote: > Thanks, i ve already fixed the problem with dhcp-client , but i havent > found the man pages of devfsd or udev. Ive also tried a dpkg -l | > grep devfsd and it seems i dont have this packages installed. > > Which package do you recommend

Re: why debian - longer - kernels

2004-11-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 14 November 2004 06:01, Alvin Oga wrote: > > - if you use "m" instead of "y" for all the drivers... > the kernel is little smalller ... but you would need an initrd > if you used "m" for ide or scsi drivers to boot your box The kernel is a LOT smaller, and if you use make-kpkg (with t

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-14 Thread Upayavira
ken keanon wrote: Hi, I',m impress. The responses to 'why debian' show that it has won some strong converts and it is supported by some staunch loyalists. I need to know more. There was mention about "never for profit", "protected non-profit". It is compared to US democracy and monasteries in

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