On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 20:39, Neil C Smith wrote:
> Any other actions required? All look OK?
>
> Assuming this is good we can re-open merging soon.
Taking that as an implicit OK!
Thanks,
Neil
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Hi All,
As the post-release tasks have been merged to master, we can now
re-open master for merging for 11.2. We should probably prioritize
existing PRs with the NB 11.2 label (assuming they were labelled
correctly).
Feature freeze for Apache NetBeans 11.2 is scheduled for September 15th.
Hopef
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 00:54, Junichi Yamamoto wrote:
> Currently, we are using labels to mark specific versions in GitHub
> repo. However, Version labels are never used after those versions are
> released. It means version labels which we don't use again continue to
> increase.
> So, I suppose th
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 10:41, Eric Barboni wrote:
> Disclamer :D
> I'm not computer so I cannot be in stored in a data center with an air temp
> at 22°C. Despite I melt, I hope to be understandable.
Tell me about it! :-)
Thanks for the information. It's useful to understand further, and
I've a
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 at 09:44, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> That's basically what a [LAZY] consensus vote is, as per
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#LazyConsensus
Out of interest, is there any wider Apache model for what I initially
suggested? ie. simple tasks / verifications requ
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, 07:31 Gaurav Gupta, wrote:
> -1
>
> *OpenIDE-Module-Implementation-Version* is not same between released Apache
> NetBeans 11.1 modules and Maven artifacts.
>
I expected that because it's using a different build off the same source.
Why is it a concern?
Speaking of moving t
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 15:08, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> I think the standard voting system, lazy or not, does that? Requiring
> 3 +1s for example means "more than one PMC member has checked".
Yes, it does, but taking 72hrs and a bit more formalised. I was
trying to suggest somewhere in betwee
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 09:39, wrote:
> Neil, Can I move installer artifacts to
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/netbeans/11.1/
Judging from the thread, that's fine with me - I've been catching up
on other work so not checked them myself still.
Once they're in place and they'
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 10:18, Gaurav Gupta wrote:
>
> > Why is it a concern?
> If NetBeans plugin requires implementation-dependency then plugin binary
> will not be compatible with the targeted version of IDE, as build with
> different *OpenIDE-Module-Implementation-Version* dependency.
Which a
Hi,
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 at 05:57, Jaroslav Tulach wrote:
> Using implementation dependency is a hack of the last resort. It is certainly
> not something we should encourage.
>
> Long time ago there was a discussion about eliminating friend dependencies. We
> haven't made any changes in the friend
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, 19:43 Tim Boudreau, wrote:
> We discussed this long ago, but if you want fewer friend dependencies, then
> the solution is to get more of those through the API review process and
> committed to as stable API. That's what it's for, and that's what actually
> solves the problem
On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 at 10:01, arsi wrote:
>
> > Eric suggested elsewhere using the git hash as build number, which could
> > work although might raise other issues.
>
> Hash is not a bad idea, but it would have to be just a hash of public
> method signatures.
>
> An entire class Hash would cause a
On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 at 12:10, Emilian Bold wrote:
> I support reproducible builds. One simple rule here is to ignore everything
> from the build environment (date time, server name, build number, maybe
> even git info). Since only release-time versions matter we could
> hardcode/generate all these
On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 at 12:18, arsi wrote:
> * None of the public/protected methods will be removed in the future
Or none of the methods are actually non-private!
> Therefore, it is stupid to use a git hash.
Git hash isn't stupid - it's one logical way of keeping as much of the
existing semanti
On Sat, 3 Aug 2019, 16:49 Emilian Bold, wrote:
> NetBeans is in another phase now and the whole desktop IDE/platform space
> is in another place in the industry. NetBeans is being much too
> conservative with its APIs.
>
I agree with you. I was questioning the idea of people only building on the
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, 07:06 Jan Lahoda, wrote:
> So, for reproducible builds,
> we need to solve the OpenIDE-Module-Build-Version attribute.
>
True. This is definitely only about the auto-generated attributes.
It's not just about reproducible builds though, which we'd still have some
way to get
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, 09:08 Jan Lahoda, wrote:
> Because for non-release builds, it would be hard/impossible to find what
> sources were used to build the given module - it would even be misleading.
> And while that would typically be the "dev community", if the IDE log
> and/or About/Help are not
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 08:13, Jaroslav Tulach wrote:
> Lively discussion. I can't pretend I read it all, but...
:-)
> I'd like to remind you that:
> - specification version is used to depend on features
> - implementation version is used to depend on bug-to-bug compatibility
+1 Agreed! Neither
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, 19:29 Tim Boudreau, wrote:
> Could we get this thing on the dev build update center? Otherwise it is
> literally impossible to open a Javascript or JSON file in a dev build.
>
The master branch update centre links are still broken. I was going to put
in a PR to fix, with red
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 02:55, Tim Boudreau wrote:
> > However, this is in the NB11.1 plugin centre catalog (not updates) along
> > with nb-javac isn't it?!
>
> No. I actually installed in 11.1, got the url from the plug-ins dialog,
> downloaded it and opened it in a text editor.
So did I before re
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 08:31, Patrik Karlström wrote:
>
> While creating a jira ticket I noticed that version 11.1 is in the
> "Unreleased version" when picking "Affected version/s".
Yes, there's one final task (Maven artefacts) of the release ticket
not marked complete yet, so I hadn't updated it
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 22:27, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> Would be great if this problem in dev could be fixed sooner rather than
> later I think.
>
OK, working on a PR now.
Best wishes,
Neil
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On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 07:23, mike james wrote:
> As to NetBeans - well it is the best of the current general purpose IDEs.
> Notice "general purpose". Visual Studio used to be good ...
Well, all tooling is terrible, just some are less terrible than others! ;-)
Reminds me that there's a great sec
Hi,
I've just put in a simple UC fix PR for master that switches to stable
links for updates and plugins, and re-adds the 8.2 and special
3rd-party UCs.
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1408
The intention is for the actual links for updates and plugins to be
hard-coded and (eventually) te
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 16:42, Humphrey Clerx wrote:
> Where can I get the same file for NetBeans 11.1?
Good question! I know I put it up, but I'm not sure we link it from
anywhere currently? :-\
Try -
https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/netbeans/netbeans-platform/11.1/netbeans-platform-11.1-s
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 16:29, Jack Woehr wrote:
> A friend of mine opines that NB has had its day and the Java world has
> moved on to Eclipse mostly.
Neither helpful, nor true! ;-)
Neil
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 15:11, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> How can we handle this situation?
>
> Maybe we can create tribes around certain areas and then have the tribes
> work together to respond to issues, create specifications, lead discussions
> on the mailing list, and implement the technical s
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 20:49, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> Well tools JIRA vs GitHub could be a side discussion though as you might
> noticed, I'm mostly a JIRA guy.
The problem is more the level of UI complexity for the casual / end
user. It takes too long to work out how to find anything, or ploug
On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 15:05, Glenn Holmer wrote:
> I still think NetCAT should be in continuous operation, doing some of
> the things you suggest (like creating and updating specifications).
+1 for that idea.
Working out all the details of how NetCAT fits with the new release
schedule is still
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019, 01:11 Eirik Bakke, wrote:
> > So I vote for NB 12 to drop support for Java 11
>
> Java 11 was released less than a year ago... _way_ too early to stop
> supporting.
>
Too right! There's an open bug report that we accidentally dropped Java 7
support in 11.1, which I think is
Hi All,
I meant to kick this off a couple of weeks ago, but .. work .. apologies.
So, hardly has the dust settled on NB 11.1 and the feature freeze date
for NB 11.2 is just around the corner! From my perspective, I think
the release process for NB 11.1 went well, with a few caveats, but I
wanted
On Wed, 4 Sep 2019, 12:44 Eric Bresie, wrote:
> I think folks tend to work of master branch so maybe something different
> could help some.
>
> Was wondering if the “gitflow” model may help in the branching process.
>
You realise, if by gitflow you mean what you linked to, those two
statements c
Hi,
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 09:37, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Maybe a heads up reminder to the dev and users mailing list re feature
> freeze coming up and pointing to the release schedule would be good.
Yes, I'll do that now - was planning on a reminder this week.
On the release schedule page,
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 10:43, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> It's still all there, just so that anyone getting to the page with the
> table can focus on the table and not the discussion and questions around it
> -- and can still get to those via the link to them at the end.
Yes, I realise and agree w
HI All,
It's almost that time again!
Just a reminder that the merge window for Apache NetBeans 11.2 will
close on September 15th. See
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule
After the merge window closes, merges to master will be limited to
fixes intended for the 11
Hi,
On Wed, 11 Sep 2019, 16:49 Geertjan Wielenga, wrote:
> Hi all, especially Neil,
>
> Could we create a special build at feature freeze named 11.2-preview so
> that those of us at Oracle Code One next week won’t simply have a daily
> build but something with a semi official name in the ZIP to
On Thu, 12 Sep 2019, 09:48 Eric Barboni, wrote:
> We could not move the artefacts to central because of the licence and the
> groupid that are now for Apache NetBeans.
>
I'm not sure this is correct. At least, I remember us getting some advice
about pre-Apache release artefacts that might allow
On Fri, 13 Sep 2019, 09:31 Jean-Marc Borer, wrote:
> So Emilian, do you take the token and move, at least, all Maven and Javadoc
> for 8.2 to OSUOSL?
>
Shouldn't we be putting Maven artefacts on Maven Central rather than OSUOSL?
Best wishes,
Neil
>
On Fri, 13 Sep 2019, 11:47 Eric Barboni, wrote:
> Would be nice, but I don’t remember the discussion that allow to do that.
>
It might have been something that came up in a video chat a few of us had
with infra people about transitioning of websites, etc. It was a while ago
now, but at some poin
Hi All,
Just back from a slightly awkwardly timed vacation and it's time to
hit the deck running ...
A reminder that the merge window for Apache NetBeans 11.2 is now
closed [1]. Nothing further should be merged into master unless
specifically intended for the 11.2 release. Pull requests should
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 13:28, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> It would be good to have a link providing the full list of all PRs unique
> to 11.2, then I'll make a draft 'what's new' document on the Wiki for that,
> to be transferred once finalized to netbeans.apache.org.
I'll have a look at that sh
Hi,
It would be nice to merge Eric's build branding PR in the next day or
two in time to branch and build the first NB 11.2 beta. This overlaps
with a range of commits that have to happen on the release branch
otherwise, so I'd rather do this instead and use the release process
to tidy it up. An
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 13:40, Neil C Smith wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 13:28, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >
> > It would be good to have a link providing the full list of all PRs unique
> > to 11.2, then I'll make a draft 'what's new' document
Hi,
Just a note that I merged the build branding PR ready for the beta,
which is currently breaking Travis - appears to be a bug in parsing
the git detached head. We can hopefully fix ASAP - trying to get my
head around exactly what it's doing wrong. Will aim to get a beta
build soon too - sorry
On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 21:24, John Kostaras wrote:
> - When a new plugin is uploaded, some people should be triggered; e.g. for
> testing, verification instead of sending an email to the dev mainling list
Incidentally, my thought on that is that we should still look to do
this via a PR (like) pro
Hi,
OK, quick fix in and we seem to be green again. Onwards and upwards.
Best wishes,
Neil
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 17:16, Neil C Smith wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just a note that I merged the build branding PR ready for the beta,
> which is currently breaking Travis - appears to be a
Hi All,
I know you're all anxiously waiting to test 11.2-beta1!
Unfortunately, there are a few teething problems with the new Jenkins
release pipeline, although we're getting close to solving them. Eric
particularly has done a lot of work on this over the last few months,
and it is worth the imme
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 16:12, Neil C Smith wrote:
> I know you're all anxiously waiting to test 11.2-beta1!
> Unfortunately, there are a few teething problems with the new Jenkins
> release pipeline, although we're getting close to solving them. Eric
> particularly
Dear Community,
I'd like to announce that the first beta build for Apache NetBeans
11.2 from the release112 branch is available for download. Apologies
for the delay. Further betas will be released on Oct 2nd and 9th as
required. Release is aimed for Oct ~15th.
As per the release schedule, NB 11.
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 19:06, Jesse Glick wrote:
> A long time ago I wrote up
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NbmPackageStability to discuss problems with
> the versioning scheme in NB and propose a different system. At this
> point I would say that the proposed change is unnecessarily complex,
> and t
Hi,
As per the recent discussion thread [1] I'd like us to move to using
the git hash as the build and default implementation version, probably
in the next 11.2 beta. Unless someone has a very, very good reason
not to?!
My initial suggestion in that thread was to just write in the spec
version,
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 16:07, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> I've started picking out the highlights from the list of closed issues,
> please feel free to disagree or add others, either here in the thread or by
> directly editing the page:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apach
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 16:59, Scott Palmer wrote:
> ..but where NB 11.1 would install this library when I click the link, on NB
> 11.2-beta1 it results in a dialog:
>
> Resolve "nb-javac library" Reference Problem
> "nb-javac library" module has not been downloaded
> You can try to download "nb-
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 18:35, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> I think it would be good to simply use 11.2 beta1 without nb-javac, unless
> that's a problem -- ultimately that's what we're aiming for -- not needing
> to depend on nb-javac at all.
Depends if you're running on Java 8 or not, which I th
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019, 18:56 Scott Palmer, wrote:
>
> java.lang.IllegalStateException: Host module
> StandardModule:org.netbeans.libs.javacimpl jarFile:
> /Applications/NetBeans/NetBeans 11.2
> Beta.app/Contents/Resources/NetBeans/java/modules/org-netbeans-libs-javacimpl.jar
> was enabled before,
>
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 18:53, wrote:
> Is bumping the jgit dependencies a possible candidate for 11.2?
At this stage, no. We're in feature freeze. Be good to get in early
in 11.3 cycle though.
Best wishes,
Neil
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 11:24 Chuck Davis, wrote:
> It would certainly be nice if FX
> were still part of the JDK.
>
It never really was! ;-)
Neil
>
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 at 11:50, Matthias Bläsing
wrote:
>
> Am Sonntag, den 29.09.2019, 11:38 +0100 schrieb Neil C Smith:
> > On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 11:24 Chuck Davis, wrote:
> >
> > > It would certainly be nice if FX
> > > were still part of the JD
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 09:29, Eric Barboni wrote:
> Infra change default ubuntu to 18. (instead of 16). In the meantimes it was
> decided to only use last version of tools branch (ant 1.9 latest ant 1.10
> latest)).
> I just changed jdk to 1.8 latest on netbeans-html4j-linux to see if it pass.
H
Hi,
Moving some PR and off-list discussion to dev@ We need to make an
urgent decision on how we're going to handle nb-javac distribution for
11.2 so we can get it in the next beta.
The problem is that 11.2 requires an updated nb-javac that breaks 11.0
and 11.1. All 3 currently share the same pl
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, 20:41 Jan Lahoda, wrote:
> I'll try to talk about this tomorrow with Jiri, but I am
> afraid it won't be in the morning, rather sometime before noon.
>
:-) That would be great. Anytime tomorrow is great, really. Otherwise I'll
delay beta2 until the weekend so whatever soluti
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 10:53, Jan Lahoda wrote:
>
> Hi, talking this through with Jiří, the proposal is to go with the internal
> NBMs (i.e. my PR) for beta 2. Jiří will ask if NetCat could test it, and if
> there are problems, we will know and revert back to a separate update center
> (i.e. Jiř
Hi,
OK, the PR is merged in and synced across to the release branch.
However, a few other glitches to sort on Jenkins and having to wait a
long time to be scheduled, so looking like beta2 will be tomorrow at
least.
Best wishes,
Neil
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 12:02, Neil C Smith wrote:
>
>
Hi All,
While waiting for some testing with beta2 ahead of announcing it, I
wanted to follow up on the discussion [1] about approving convenience
binaries. There was some talk of having a voting or lazy consensus
thread on them, or linking them to the release vote.
To date, we have only voted on
Dear Community,
I'd like to announce that the second beta build for Apache NetBeans
11.2 from the release112 branch is available for download. Apologies
for the slight delay - more waiting on Jenkins! A (hopefully) final
beta will be released on Oct 9th - please help with testing, reporting
issues
+1
Been hoping for this! :-)
Best wishes,
Neil
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Eric Barboni wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
>
> This vote is to determine if the Apache
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 17:00, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> In case if we would like to vote on binaries, IMHO, I'd go with a mixed
> option. We could keep the source and the binary zip distribution on a
> single thread as they have "instant visibility". Then vote on the
> installers (probably by platfo
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 18:19, mlist wrote:
> Yes, but also later on after changing JAVA_HOME the build still fails.
If Suse has update-alternatives or equivalent, you might be better
setting up java and javac with that instead?
Best wishes,
Neil
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On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 14:16, Eric Barboni wrote:
> I like the template, I would prefer a complicated vote that make people aware
> of all the stuff we release as PMC.
I'm still not totally sold on doing that instead of multiple vote
threads, but we do need to be clearer on all the stuff we relea
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 18:37, mlist wrote:
>
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 18:27:54 +0100 Neil C Smith wrote:
>
> > If Suse has update-alternatives or equivalent, you might be better
> > setting up java and javac with that instead?
>
> What is 'update-a
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 19:38, John Neffenger wrote:
> I also had trouble building NetBeans, even though I've been building the
> JDK and JavaFX for years. I am very new to the NetBeans source code,
> though. Here's what I did to get it working. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS.
People do like to complica
On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 17:44, mlist wrote:
> Something weird happened today.
...
> How come this is happening all of a sudden?
> Is there a fix? (I don't know even what these modules are)
In addition to what Geertjan said, this is actually expected
behaviour, if unfortunate. The Oracle JS library
Hi,
I did leave a comment on the PR that merged the mysql Travis test the
other day - https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1450
If you worked on this or fancy looking at why it keeps sporadically
failing, you'd make me very happy! Seem to spend half my life
retriggering it at the moment. Whi
Hi All,
The third beta of NB 11.2 is scheduled for Wed Oct 9th. At least,
that's the plan - last two not quite on schedule! :-)
Hopefully this will be our final beta before release, and we'll aim
for the voting candidate to be binary identical to the final beta,
assuming no remaining blocker or
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019, 11:52 mlist, wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 18:09:09 +0100 Neil C Smith wrote:
>
> > I'm glad we will no longer have this issue in 11.2! Try building the
> > beta of that instead, and report back problems. ;-)
>
> OK, I have built 11.2 (from GitHub&
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 13:59, mlist wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 12:15:25 +0100 Neil C Smith wrote:
>
> > If you build from checkout you also have to manually specify the
> > metabuild branch and hash information.
>
> > Also, use release112 tip.
>
> How do I do the
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 10:53, Jan Lahoda wrote:
>
> Hi, talking this through with Jiří, the proposal is to go with the internal
> NBMs (i.e. my PR) for beta 2. Jiří will ask if NetCat could test it, and if
> there are problems, we will know and revert back to a separate update center
> (i.e. Jiř
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 19:02, mlist wrote:
> What is the difference between checking out 11.2-beta2 and release112?
11.2-beta2 is a tag, release112 is the branch. The tag is a fixed
point, the branch will be updated for beta3 and the release itself.
Neil
Hi,
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 19:20, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> I would help and try to verify, just don’t know enough, hope Jan will jump
> in when he can.
>
Well, if you use a clean userdir with beta2 and disable the plugin
portal in Tools/Plugins/Settings as a first step, can you then create
a
Hi All,
I knew I spoke too soon promising an on-schedule third beta! :-)
We still need to solve the issue of delivering an updated nb-javac for
NB 11.2 (more below). It isn't now feasible to fix and merge
something today to get a beta build done, and as I'm tied up with work
over the next few da
Hi,
Great news! Thanks for all the work. Few questions below ...
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 23:11, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
> Today, we are happy to announce the result of our effort, the brand
> new Plugin Portal version 3.0
Big question - shall we point the plugin portal for 11.2 to this from
re
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019, 15:21 Sven Reimers, wrote:
> I was not asking for a different repository type, but just an additional
> maven repository provider
>
I'm still not sure why we're even requiring Maven, but I guess we can find
out and argue about that when the source is released?! :-/
Out
Hi,
Saw an issue report today which might be the sign of a blocking issue
in NB 11.2. I won't be able to look further until Monday. It appears
we're getting a NPE in OptionsChooserPanel related to reading the
netbeans.buildnumber system property. But I think this is still being
set correctly?
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019, 19:36 Neil C Smith, wrote:
> It appears
> we're getting a NPE in OptionsChooserPanel related to reading the
> netbeans.buildnumber system property. But I think this is still being
> set correctly?
>
Thanks Apache hive mind of Matthias and Christian! Deb
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 10:46, John Mc wrote:
>
> We should also allow for Apache accounts to login?
>
> What group is in charge of verifying the plugins? the PMC - if so then
> Yes, Apache accounts should be allowed to login. If not then where is this
> managed?
Yes, absolutely, there needs to
Hi All,
I've merged the final range of PRs into the release112 branch, and
beta3 is building (hopefully successfully!) as I type.
There are a few open blocker and critical issues. A few of the
criticals are should be fixed in this beta, and I'll close once
tested.
Of the blockers, are either va
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> shall we replace that with the new one,
+ 1 from me - and ideally before beta3 announcement if we can!
> http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal/data/11.2/catalog.xml.gz
The link must be https, which works. However, the catalog file i
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, 14:49 Laszlo Kishalmi,
wrote:
> Cleared them.
>
Thanks! My opinion too, or I wouldn't have triggered the beta build, but
good to have another check.
Unfortunately had to retrigger the beta build :-\ Probably be announced
tomorrow now.
Neil
>
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 17:15, Christian Pervoelz wrote:
> Imho there will not be that many plugins moved. Why?
> - many plugins in the old update center seems to be not maintained anymore
While in many ways I agree with what you said, there is something
important to note here that possibly makes
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 17:56, Neil C Smith wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 17:15, Christian Pervoelz wrote:
> > Imho there will not be that many plugins moved. Why?
> > - many plugins in the old update center seems to be not maintained anymore
>
> While in many ways I
Hi,
Second beta3 build just completed, but I've only done minor testing -
need to finish for day. I'll fully check it tomorrow morning, and
announce also on netcat@ properly, but if you want to test anything
that's changed you can find the files at -
https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/NetBe
Dear Community,
I'd like to announce that the third beta build for Apache NetBeans
11.2 from the release112 branch is available for download. Apologies
for the delay (again!) - a few key issues were fixed prior to this
build, particularly around Java 13 and nb-javac distribution (thanks
Jan). This
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 16:49, Neil C Smith wrote:
> I'm still not totally sold on doing that instead of multiple vote
> threads, but we do need to be clearer on all the stuff we release, and
> what we expect everyone to actually check before voting. With more
> thought, I&
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 11:41, Neil C Smith wrote:
> This will hopefully be our final beta for NB 11.2 and all being
> well the release vote will be based on the same code.
dev@ only addition. Anyone feel that we need to give more than 72hrs
for final testing of beta3? I'm incline
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 12:13, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> But can’t they all be handled in the same vote thread? (Sorry this has
> probably been explained multiple times, but maybe just in this part of the
> thread too it would help.)
Ideally, no. I think we need to require that people who are
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 12:58, Eric Barboni wrote:
> What if,
> In Release 11.2, Linux Installer is not ok. And fix implies NetBeans
> sources changes.
>
> We would vote again on source to make release 11.2fix1 with installer and
> still have a 11.2 with missing one missing convenience?
Not a
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> No installers until the final release.
Would be nice if we could get into a state where we could better test
installers before release. However, just tried to trigger the
netbeans-installer build and it failed. I assume this is recent
J
Hi,
Thanks Laszlo for catching and reverting the vandalism (intended or
not) of the Release 11.2 JIRA ticket.
I was actually slightly surprised that a non-committer has the
permissions to change all those fields in an issue they didn't report.
Is this something we could / should change?
Neil
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On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 15:32, Eric Bresie wrote:
> One of the common suggestions I’ve noticed on the list when developing with
> Netbeans is to clean the user cache folders when installing a new version
> of Netbeans.
Depends what you're talking about there - every released version of
NetBeans ha
On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 17:56, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> However, since we want to move away from Oracle infrastructure, what do we
> want to do with the NetBeans Bugzilla, ultimately?
In the web infra chats we had a while ago I'm pretty sure we discussed
importing and hosting within an Apache Bu
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