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> Hi
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one
> > size
>
> > doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken on F17 (and probably F18 as
> > well)
>
> > is a fine example of something within
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, Jan Zelený wrote:
Hi,
I guess the main reason why SCL is not used in Fedora it requires a certain
(potentially non-trivial) amount of work from package maintainer.
However feel free to make your packages SCL enabled. You shouldn't have any
issues with that. Just make nec
On 5. 12. 2012 at 16:50:03, Jared K. Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > I think this tells us more about puppet than Fedora actually. ;(
>
> I couldn't have said it better than this myself.
>
> The biggest reason people are really pushing for software collections
On 5. 12. 2012 at 11:17:56, Matthew Miller wrote:
> There is a perpetual problem facing all Linux distributions around how fast
> to move with software updates. In Fedora, of course, our default speed is
> petal-to-the-metal. This is part of who we are and why we are awesome.
> However, it also som
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 22:25 -0600, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
> On 12/05/2012 03:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> >> Three things:
> >>
> >> 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
> >>doesn't fit all. Puppet being
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 15:50 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Hi!
> FESCo on today's meeting decided to move the final change deadline
> by one week earlier (2012-12-11) to avoid Christmas holidays
> break [1] but the final release date remains the same - 2013-01-08 [2].
> After the Final Change Dea
On 12/05/2012 03:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
>> Three things:
>>
>> 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
>>doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken on F17 (and probably F18 as well)
>>is a fine example of so
Hi
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
>doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken on F17 (and probably F18 as well)
>is a fine example of something within the distro itself. And, as a
>platform for
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 16:09 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 5 December 2012 15:56, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 15:47 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> >> Would that not cause a combinatoric nightmare with having to make sure
> >> you had a libX11 compiled against say X n
* Rahul Sundaram [06/12/2012 00:39] :
>
> Yeah. This makes sense. Wiki for tracking isn't a bright idea really.
And the time-tracking is already built in to bugzilla so most of the code
needed is already written.
Emmanuel
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On 12/05/2012 04:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
>> Three things:
>>
>> 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
>>doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken on F17 (and probably F18 as well)
>>is a fine example of so
On 12/05/2012 02:39 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> I can't make the meeting. It conflicts with the Board meeting.
>
>> Current items on the agenda:
>>
>> 1) Current Problem packages
>>
>> 2) F18 ARM VFAD - additional feedback, blockers?
>>
>> 3) Ownership of non-release blocking images (Beagleboard X
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=883815
--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System ---
Package perl-Locale-Codes-3.24-1.fc18:
* should fix your issue,
* was pushed to the Fedora 18 testing repository,
* should be available at your local mirror within two days.
Update it w
On 5 December 2012 15:56, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 15:47 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> Would that not cause a combinatoric nightmare with having to make sure
>> you had a libX11 compiled against say X number of glibc's or other
>> libraries that changed in the past so that
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 15:47 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> Would that not cause a combinatoric nightmare with having to make sure
> you had a libX11 compiled against say X number of glibc's or other
> libraries that changed in the past so that you had the correct path so
> that SC KDE-4.9 had
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/395
https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/395/0001-Ticket-395-RFE-389-ds-shouldn-t-advertise-in-the-roo.patch
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On 5 December 2012 15:35, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 15:14 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> On 5 December 2012 15:07, Simo Sorce wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 16:10 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 04:06:38PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> >> >
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 15:14 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 5 December 2012 15:07, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 16:10 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >> On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 04:06:38PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >> > > 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete sit
On 5 December 2012 15:07, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 16:10 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 04:06:38PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> > > 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
>> > >doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken o
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 16:10 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 04:06:38PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > > 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
> > >doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken on F17 (and probably F18 as well)
> > >is a fin
On 5 December 2012 14:50, Jared K. Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> I think this tells us more about puppet than Fedora actually. ;(
>
> I couldn't have said it better than this myself.
>
> The biggest reason people are really pushing for software collections
>
Good day all,
Thanks to those who were able to join us for the weekly status meeting today.
For those that were unable, the minutes are posted below:
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-12-05/fedora-arm.2012-12-05-21.00.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproj
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> I think this tells us more about puppet than Fedora actually. ;(
I couldn't have said it better than this myself.
The biggest reason people are really pushing for software collections
(at least from what little I've seen them discussed publicl
On 12/05/2012 04:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
2) On a long-lived platform, Software Collections can provide a way to move
faster than the base. On a fast-moving platform like Fedora, we could use
it in the other way: providing longer-lived versions of certain
components even as the b
> One approach: a convention where each feature gets a tracking bug, and then
> various tasks can be marked as blocking that. *Then*, each release can have
> a tracking bug for accepted features themselves, and the tool to produce
> the
> chart can simply be pointed at that and follow the tree down
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:04:16 -0500
Matthew Miller wrote:
> Three things:
>
> 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one
> size doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken on F17 (and probably F18 as
> well) is a fine example of something within the distro itself. And,
> as a plat
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 04:06:38PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
> >doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken on F17 (and probably F18 as well)
> >is a fine example of something within the distro itself. And, as a
> >
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> Three things:
>
> 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
>doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken on F17 (and probably F18 as well)
>is a fine example of something within the distro itself. And, as a
>plat
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 02:40:15PM -0500, Jared K. Smith wrote:
> Given the short shelf-life of a Fedora release and the complication
> involved in Software Collections, I'm still not convinced that we
> really need this in Fedora. Can you give me a concrete case where
> Fedora really needs to be
Hi!
FESCo on today's meeting decided to move the final change deadline
by one week earlier (2012-12-11) to avoid Christmas holidays
break [1] but the final release date remains the same - 2013-01-08 [2].
After the Final Change Deadline only approved blocker and NTH bugs
will be included into the
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-12-05)
===
Meeting started by notting at 18:07:27 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-05/fesco.2012-12-05-18.07.log.html
.
Meeting summary
---
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:19:15PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
> > > I like burndown charts. Low overhead, easily read, and generally more
> > > concrete than guesses at percentage done. I wonder if there's a way we can
> > > easily provide a widget in the wiki for keeping them up to date. This:
The lightweight tag 'perl-namespace-clean-0.24-1.fc19' was created pointing to:
49907b0... Update to 0.24
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I'll do it.
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To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
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Anyone interested in a p
Anyone interested in a package review swap?
python-logutils:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884041
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commit 49907b0a28b5206ef11f1cc3ec940bd9d610f922
Author: Paul Howarth
Date: Wed Dec 5 19:39:07 2012 +
Update to 0.24
- New upstream release 0.24
- Properly skip debugger test when optional deps not available
- Make sure pure-perl tests pass correctly on space-contain
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> So, some Red Hat folks have developed an idea called Software Collections
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Contributor_Documentation/1/html/Software_Collections_Guide/index.html
> which is aimed at this problem -- it lets you ins
I can't make the meeting. It conflicts with the Board meeting.
> Current items on the agenda:
>
> 1) Current Problem packages
>
> 2) F18 ARM VFAD - additional feedback, blockers?
>
> 3) Ownership of non-release blocking images (Beagleboard XM, etc)
Who decided this was a non blocker? It was my un
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:19:15PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
> > I like burndown charts. Low overhead, easily read, and generally more
> > concrete than guesses at percentage done. I wonder if there's a way we can
> > easily provide a widget in the wiki for keeping them up to date. This:
> > htt
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:39:03PM -0500, John Dulaney wrote:
> > a feature, especially a crit path feature, is not ready for prime time.
> > Obviously, if a feature is not %100 by feature freeze, then it needs to be
> > dropped. I would even venture to suggest that we include in the SOP
> > som
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:39:03PM -0500, John Dulaney wrote:
> a feature, especially a crit path feature, is not ready for prime time.
> Obviously, if a feature is not %100 by feature freeze, then it needs to be
> dropped. I would even venture to suggest that we include in the SOP
> something al
Good day all,
This weeks Fedora ARM status meeting will take place today (Wednesday Dec 5th)
in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode.
Times in various time zones (please let us know if these do not work):
PDT: 1pm
MDT: 2pm
CDT: 3pm
EDT: 4pm
UTC: 8pm
BST: 9pm
CST: 10pm
Current items on the agenda:
1)
commit 6ca03da37af6152985b7e292edb16ecd04ba89d0
Author: Paul Howarth
Date: Wed Dec 5 16:43:38 2012 +
Update to 0.12
- New upstream release 0.12:
- Complete pure-perl implementation in addition to the one based on
Variable::Magic; you can specify the implementation
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> From: "Matthew Miller"
> To: "Fedora Development List"
> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:17:56 PM
> Subject: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?
>
> There is a perpetual problem facing all Linux distributions around
> how fast
> to m
There is a perpetual problem facing all Linux distributions around how fast
to move with software updates. In Fedora, of course, our default speed is
petal-to-the-metal. This is part of who we are and why we are awesome.
However, it also sometimes makes life difficult for us -- for example, our
Pup
Summary of changes:
29bbe2f... Update to latest upstream release. (*)
47f48ad... Commit spec file. (*)
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On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:35 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 00:08 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 12:06 -0500, Braden McDaniel wrote:
>>> I posted about this a couple of days ago to the test list; but I've gotten
>>> no response so I'm fishing here.
>>>
>>
commit ead66f4c6f09476fec9386935549c34434d34264
Merge: c4ddc14 47f48ad
Author: Orion Poplawski
Date: Wed Dec 5 08:44:07 2012 -0700
Merge branch 'master' into el6
Update to 1.98.6
.gitignore |1 +
abi-compliance-checker.spec | 10 +-
sources
Summary of changes:
29bbe2f... Update to latest upstream release. (*)
47f48ad... Commit spec file. (*)
ead66f4... Merge branch 'master' into el6 Update to 1.98.6
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commit 47f48ad6fde08dc7881ed15dbfff7a251a5f989b
Author: Richard M. Shaw
Date: Wed Dec 5 09:42:02 2012 -0600
Commit spec file.
abi-compliance-checker.spec | 10 +-
1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/abi-compliance-checker.spec b/abi-compliance-check
commit 29bbe2f1c5df37ebd01f08742eee93c901537365
Author: Richard M. Shaw
Date: Wed Dec 5 09:40:55 2012 -0600
Update to latest upstream release.
.gitignore |1 +
sources|2 +-
2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 1ee488b
On 12/05/2012 04:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 03:55:17PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:
I am looking for a way how to add new users to a certain group upon
creation. Do we have such a mechanism?
[...]
/etc/default/useradd only is for useradd and can set a default group
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 03:55:17PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> I am looking for a way how to add new users to a certain group upon
> creation. Do we have such a mechanism?
[...]
> /etc/default/useradd only is for useradd and can set a default group,
> but no additional default groups.
I was
Hi there,
I am looking for a way how to add new users to a certain group upon
creation. Do we have such a mechanism?
/etc/default/useradd only is for useradd and can set a default group,
but no additional default groups.
Background: The 'Fedora Jam' spin [1] requires users to be in the groups
'a
Compose started at Wed Dec 5 09:16:09 UTC 2012
New package: php-Slim-2.1.0-5.fc18
PHP micro framework
New package: phpMemcachedAdmin-1.2.2-5.svn262.fc18
Graphic stand-alone administration for memcached to monitor and
debug purpose
New package: rubygem-openstack-
On 12/05/2012 10:56 AM, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
Hello all,
I was just wondering if anyone else is seeing the problems I have on my
laptop with system sounds being very delayed:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882506
Note that F17 on an identical laptop doesn't have these issues, so
Hello all,
I was just wondering if anyone else is seeing the problems I have on my
laptop with system sounds being very delayed:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882506
Note that F17 on an identical laptop doesn't have these issues, so it
definitely seems to be something F18-ish. T
On 12/04/2012 10:43 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
bah shell script !? , why don't you do it in python ?
Because in python it would be longer and more complicated. For example
'set -e' saved me lots of if-loop and exceptions handling.
And I wanted to have requirements very minimal.
While bash has s
> Is it the meeting itself which you find helpful or the discussion and
> information during the review meetings? Could you see asynchronous
> conversation (exact method TBD) being as useful?
The discussion is very helpful. It can be asynchronous, of course. It won't be
as efficient, but that's a
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 00:08 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 12:06 -0500, Braden McDaniel wrote:
> > I posted about this a couple of days ago to the test list; but I've gotten
> > no response so I'm fishing here.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is a genuine freeze; but I have no
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 23:24 -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Ville Skyttä
> wrote:
> IMO if a maintainer of a shared lib package goes as far as
> submitting a
> koji build without noticing a soname bump in it, the
> maintainer s
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 12:06 -0500, Braden McDaniel wrote:
> I posted about this a couple of days ago to the test list; but I've gotten no
> response so I'm fishing here.
>
> I'm not sure if this is a genuine freeze; but I have not managed to elicit a
> response to keyboard/mouse input.
>
> When
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 11:14 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> On 11/29/2012 05:47 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > 4- use yum but I have bad memories from FC2 about use yum for upgrade
>
> Try scripted version of yum-upgrade, where all possible hick-ups should
> be addressed:
> https://github.com/xsuchy/
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