Subbiah Arunachalam wrote:
> Steve Eskow suggests that governments buy very large numbers of
> computers (simputers, Mobilis or the Negroponte equivalent) and give
> them away to telecentres nation wide. But a telecentre is not just the
> computing equipment. It is much more, very much more. It in
D] On Behalf Of Subbiah
Arunachalam
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Steve Eskow suggests that governments buy very large numbers of computers
(simputers, Mobilis or the Negroponte
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After the Axial Age, everyone became an expert.
Tom Abeles wrote:
> Hi Taran
>
> the simputer is mere
Taran Rampersad comments on this:
>The approach Jon Hall describes below makes much sense: there are many
>governments around the world that might well consider it.>>
>
This way:
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>
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It is important to do what Taran has done here: to make "affordability" a
central issue in deciding on how bes
discussion group"
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Taran Rampersad, presently in Panama City, writes:
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There is no necessary conflict between the "public" and the "private."
Those
who can affo
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
>The approach Jon Hall describes below makes much sense: there are many
>governments around the world that might well consider it.
>
>Steve Eskow
>
>
Assuming that they can afford it.
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far more difficult job.
Arun
[Subbiah Arunachalam]
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John Hibbs wrote:
> At 10:02 AM -0700 5/29/05, Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
>
>> If the Simputer is a superior product, and mass producing it will
>> dramatically lower its price, the Simputer firm might emulate
>> Negroponte and
>> insist on mass orders.
>
>
> "Insist"? How?
>
> How much good would it
Todd Seal wrote:
> Ah, yes! The smart card! That's what I'm thinking of when I think of
> sitting at a public computer for personal use.
>
> What's the danger, though, in losing one of those cards? Think of how
> easy it is to lose a file on your computer. Isn't that problem
> compounded when you
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> Marvelous. The Simputer plus the idea of Public Computing plus promoting the
> idea of governments purchasing a million or more at one time and seeing to
> their distribution and we have a strategy for an attack on the digital divide
> that might make a difference.
The
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
> Marvelous. The Simputer plus the idea of Public Computing plus promoting
>the idea of governments purchasing a million or more at one time and seeing
>to their distribution and we have a strategy for an attack on the digital
>divide that might make a difference.
>
>
I'm
AM
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> Marvelous. The Simputer plus the idea of Public Computing plus promoting
the
> idea of governments purchasing a million or more
Of Tom Abeles
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:03 AM
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group; John Hibbs
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There is an essay with a title, something to the effect, "The Fear of
God and the Need to Acquire" where there is a line, paraphrased,
Mr. John Hibbs writes:
dramatically lower its price, the Simputer firm might emulate Negroponte
and
>insist on mass orders.>>
"Insist"? How?>>
As I understand the Negroponte idea, by taking no orders for less than a
million o
Tom Abeles wrote:
> There is an essay with a title, something to the effect, "The Fear of
> God and the Need to Acquire" where there is a line, paraphrased, which
> says that there is a problem when the only way a person can show love
> for his/her spouse is to go to bed with them or BUY them some
Taran Rampersad, presently in Panama City, writes:
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There is no necessary conflict between the "public" and the "private." Those
who can afford private automobiles should be allowed to have them, until the
world's pollution problem becomes so great that we have to consider limiting
that right.
There is an essay with a title, something to the effect, "The Fear of
God and the Need to Acquire" where there is a line, paraphrased, which
says that there is a problem when the only way a person can show love
for his/her spouse is to go to bed with them or BUY them something.
One must realiz
Todd Seal writes about the perils of "the smart card":
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If the public computer is in a church, or library, or office, the cards can
be kept there rather than taken home.
And note how easily we overlook the difficulties associated with the
personal computer.
When 20 people each own a person
At 10:02 AM -0700 5/29/05, Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
If the Simputer is a superior product, and mass producing it will
dramatically lower its price, the Simputer firm might emulate Negroponte and
insist on mass orders.
"Insist"? How?
How much good would it do to set a date ceartain - as Earth Da
Jayne Cravens writes:
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In your previous incarnation at the UN, and since, you've taught many of us
a great deal, Jayne.
Turn about is fair play.
Steve Eskow
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Ah, yes! The smart card! That's what I'm thinking of when I think of sitting
at a public computer for personal use.
What's the danger, though, in losing one of those cards? Think of how easy
it is to lose a file on your computer. Isn't that problem compounded when
you have a card that can get
Daniel Escasa writes:
<>
Marvelous. The Simputer plus the idea of Public Computing plus promoting
the idea of governments purchasing a million or more at one time and seeing
to their distribution and we have a strategy for an attack on the digital
divide that might make a difference.
Steve E
Hi,
I have followed the conversation so far, and Taran has made some good
points about the Simputer vs a notebook.
There are other issues that a lot of people do not think about in the design
of a computer system for developing nations.
Replacement parts:
One of the things that often breaks in
Sabi ni bryan noong Sat, 28 May 2005 13:36:53 +0800:
> $480??? And i thought the simputer was supposed to help bring computers
> to all levels of society. At that cost it wont get any farther than the
> current PC penetration and with so many competitors they can forget doing
> mass production runs
work discussion group"
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> I want to point out, just in case it has not been mentioned by Taran or
> > others, that the initial Simputer had a text-to-speech synthes
Taran Rampersad writes:
>>..Toss in the fact that only 50,000 [Simputers] were produced compared to
the millions
of components built by commercial entities. Don't believe me? Ask
Negroponte why it takes a minimum order of 1 *million* PCs to meet the
$100 laptop which the MIT Media Lab is looki
I just wanted to say that I find this back and forth about Simputer
fantastic. Thank you to everyone who is contributing/debating. I'm
learning so much.
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Sabi ni maddog noong Fri, 27 May 2005 10:57:58 -0400:
> One of the things that interests me about the Simputer is the inclusion
> of
> two USB ports. Thus hooked to a power supply and a USB disk drive, USB
> keyboard
> and USB mouse you might be able to have a fairly interesting "desktop"
> (alth
I want to point out, just in case it has not been mentioned by Taran or
> others, that the initial Simputer had a text-to-speech synthesizer built
> into it for several Indian languages, which made it possible for
> non-literate users to use the computer to 'read' text files written in
> their
Ar
Uddami Computer Training Centre wrote:
>$480??? And i thought the simputer was supposed to help bring computers to all
>levels of society. At that cost it wont get any farther than the current PC
>penetration and with so many competitors they can forget doing mass production
>runs.
>
>bryan fo
Dr. Bill Peet wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>I've been lurking for several years, but this item has pulled me out of
>hiding.
>
>I want to point out, just in case it has not been mentioned by Taran or
>others, that the initial Simputer had a text-to-speech synthesizer built
>into it for several Indian lang
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> Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
>
> >Taran,
> >
> >I ask you this publicly rather than privately, since others on this DDN
list
> >may have the same question.
> >
> &g
Taran,
One of the things that interests me about the Simputer is the inclusion of
two USB ports. Thus hooked to a power supply and a USB disk drive, USB keyboard
and USB mouse you might be able to have a fairly interesting "desktop"
(although with a fairly small screen). Lots of "PDAs" do not ha
Jon maddog Hall wrote:
>Taran,
>
>One of the things that interests me about the Simputer is the inclusion of
>two USB ports. Thus hooked to a power supply and a USB disk drive, USB
>keyboard
>and USB mouse you might be able to have a fairly interesting "desktop"
>(although with a fairly small sc
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I'v
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
>Taran,
>
>I ask you this publicly rather than privately, since others on this DDN list
>may have the same question.
>
>How man US dollars does a "high end" Amida Simputer cost?
>
>
Right now? $480. With an initial run of 50,000 manufactured, it's hard
to compete with a De
I've made contact with Amida Simputer - I will be purchasing a high end
Simputer at the beginning of June, and having it sent to me in Panama.
This is an out of pocket expense for me, but I'm putting my money where
my mouth is (now that I have the money coming in) and will be taking it
with me to G
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