Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (and Blowing them up!)

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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (and Blowing them up!)

> From: Robert Bruninga via EV > > That's 300 mA at 250 VDC. The voltage doesn't really matter, does it? If you're charging with a constant-current source, all but one of the cells could short, and the last cell would still see no more than 360 mW. If you were charging constant-voltage, and y

Re: [EVDL] ENERDEL Battery Experiences

On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 12:42 PM, Michael Ross wrote: Jeff, I am not sure why performance at ambient temperatures should make anyone feel confident about a cell.  LFP for instance, starts to have serious difficulties at 104°F if it is fully charged.  That is certainly ambien

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they speak assiduously, only in >>> >general terms regarding their own cells. If >>> >they are using some inferior chemistry and >>> >electrolyte package it is clearly not because >>> >they don't know better, so I bet they are >>&

Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

Mike On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 >> at 10:19 AM, Jeff Major via EV >> wrote: > I doubt that >> EnerDel and its customers have overlooked >> anything as basic > as performance and life at >> ambient temperatures. It appears to me that > >> Hoegberg is comparing to s

Re: [EVDL] article: World’s first 1 megawatt all-electric race car to compete at Pikes Peak

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[EVDL] article: World’s first 1 megawatt all-electric race car to compete at Pikes Peak

It's April 1, so maybe this is true: http://www.electricautosport.com/2015/04/worlds-first-1-megawatt-all-electric-race-car-to-compete-at-pikes-peak/ -- *Paul Wujek* about ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub

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ting the presented data. But whatever. They have millions of > > cells in the field and no complaints of which I am aware. > > > > -- next part -- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://lists.evdl.org/private.

Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (and Blowing them up!)

That's 300 mA at 250 VDC. And it proves exactly what the literature says, You CANNOT trickle charge a NiMh cells beyond 100% and the same holds for Lithium. They overpressure and explode or vent or whatever it takes to relieve the pressure... This is completely different from our 60 year experie

Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (and Blowing them up!)

> From: Robert Bruninga via EV > > Same happens with NiMh: See my blown up Prius cells... All I did was p ut a > 300 mA trickle on them... and then forgot about it. > Until 8 hours later when they began to explode... Wow, Bob. That is difficult to understand. Across one cell, there should only

Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

: > I doubt that > >EnerDel and its customers have overlooked > >anything as basic > as performance and life at > >ambient temperatures. It appears to me that > > >Hoegberg is comparing to some float stand-by > >appli

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hen > misinterpreting the presented >> data. But whatever. They have millions of > cells in the field and no >> complaints of which I am aware. > > -- next part -- >> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > >> http://li

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rg>ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > I doubt that > >EnerDel and its customers have overlooked > >anything as basic > as performance and life at > >ambient temperatures. It appears to me that > > >Hoegberg is comparing to some float stand-by > >appli

[EVDL] Anybody want a leaf drive-train minus the battery? $1, 500 OBO + delivery costs from Atlanta

I was able to boot up the leaf and get it moving around under it's own power. (with wheel dollies under the rear wheels). Video here: http://www.summet.com/blog/2015/03/31/its-alive/ So the entire drive-train up front is in working order. (charger, inverter, motor, gearbox, steering, all compu

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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

better educated. Thanks for taking the time to >> >address this with me. Mike On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 >> >at 10:19 AM, Jeff Major via EV >> ><<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > I doubt that >> >EnerDel and its customers have overlooked

Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

10:19 AM, Jeff Major via EV > > wrote: > I doubt that > >EnerDel and its customers have overlooked > >anything as basic > as performance and life at > >ambient temperatures. It appears to me that > > >Hoegberg is comparing to some float stand-by > >

Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

or via EV wrote: > I doubt that EnerDel and >> its customers have overlooked anything as basic > as performance and life >> at ambient temperatures. It appears to me that > Hoegberg is comparing to >> some float stand-by application and then > misinterpreting the pre

Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

eld and no >complaints of which I am aware. > > >-- next part -- > An >HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > ><http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/ attachments/20150401/e6911ad9/attachment.htm>http://lists.evdl.org/privat

Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (and Blowing them up!)

Same happens with NiMh: See my blown up Prius cells. http://aprs.org/prius/photos/bad/OverC-Left-CellsX.JPG http://aprs.org/prius/photos/bad/OverC-Right-BentX.JPG All I did was p ut a 300 mA trickle on them... and then forgot about it. Until 8 hours later when they began to explode... Bob, WB4A

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ion and then > misinterpreting the >presented data.  But whatever.  They have >millions of > cells in the field and no >complaints of which I am aware. > > >-- next part -- > An >HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > >http://lists.

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ife at >ambient temperatures. It appears to me that > >Hoegberg is comparing to some float stand-by >application and then > misinterpreting the >presented data. But whatever. They have >millions of > cells in the field and no >complaints of which I am aware

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nt, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli

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Re: [EVDL] ENERDEL Battery Experiences

> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:00:00 + > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > Subject: Re: [EVDL] ENERDEL Battery Experiences > From: ev@lists.evdl.org > > Hello Michael, > Some companies do not pay a lot of attention to their website and rely on > their marketing de