Sure, that question has merit. I only answered his first question.
But the emissions I was particularly referring to were combustion emissions at
the tailpipe...not CO2 emissions, which certainly are of relevance.
But when the ZEV standards were adopted, the driver was nonattainment criteria
po
Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
I'm not so sure FCVs are an ally to EVs. Whether FCVs go away on their
own or not, to build the infrastructure will cost billions and then
billions more of subsidies to generate hydrogen at a competitive price.
Once that infrastructure exists, it is a beast, not an ally
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On 24 Apr 2015 at 1:08, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Eventually people will wise up to the taxes, aka subsidies, needed to
> support a fuel cell auto industry when they start wondering where
> their tax payments are going. Education will shorten that time.
Watch out, that's a sharp two-edged sw
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I think Ben's question still has merit, though. If you start with methane and
take it down two paths, what is the difference in emissions and efficiency?
The first path is burning the methane in an ICE. The second path is converting
the methane to hydrogen and using it in a fuel cell. It see
On Apr 23, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
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> Um...why not just use that methane as is? I mean, we already do -- every
> vehicle with a "CNG" or "LNG" sticker on it is burning methane.
To reduce air pollution. That's why CARB adopted the ZEV mandate.
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Yep. Better education is the key. Eventually people will wise up to
the taxes, aka subsidies, needed to support a fuel cell auto industry
when they start wondering where their tax payments are going. Education
will shorten that time.
Peri
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I have the impression that no matter how hard we argue here until we are blue
in the face
(and it will edify some and give a solid background about *why* they are called
fool cells)
it will not sway much of the compliance car that Toyota is building (or the
battery swap
that Tesla is doing), si
Bob, thanks for writing in about your effort and the response. It
spurred me into action, I went there and submitted my thoughts on the
Prius (I have an '02, and on the newest models), but more so on the FCV
vs BEV debate. Perhaps many of us could sway them, eventually.
Thanks again,
-Chris
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You should also watch Toyota's new video which says the car can run on
Elon Musk's "bull$$it "comments and show how they can take cow manure,
and process it to hydrogen.. all they have to do is add "steam and heat".
DUH, No mention of what fossil fuel they are using to get that steam and
heat?
ht
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Earlier today, I got an email from Toyota promoting their Fool Cell
vehicle (with no reply address).
So I went to the Toyota web site and found the CONTACT link and filled out
an on-line email telling them to stop throwing good money after bad in
last years ideas (Fool cells) and to come out with
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