Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-23 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Gordana and colleagues, Your quotation "But I would rather risk such reproaches than accept the present situation, in which philosophers argue only with dead biologists and biologists only with dead philosophers... " is quite funny and descriptive. In my terms, the recombination of knowl

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-22 Thread Gavin Ritz
, 23 March 2011 10:09 a.m. To: joe.bren...@bluewin.ch; Loet Leydesdorff; fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror Dear Joseph, Thank you for this precise clarification. I agree completely and I also follow tensions and changes in our discussi

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-22 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Leydesdorff; fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: AW: RE: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror Dear Gordana, Thank you for your very pertinent illustration of what Logic in Reality "is". There are (at least) two dynamics possible, 1) the tension between two existing f

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-22 Thread joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
ons are real is illustrated almost every day in these discussions . . . Best regards, Joseph Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: gordana.dodig-crnko...@mdh.se Datum: 21.03.2011 08:40 An: "Loet Leydesdorff", "joe.bren...@bluewin.ch", "fis@listas.unizar.es"

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-21 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
On Mar 20, 2011, at 4:18 PM, joe.bren...@bluewin.ch wrote: > ... I am convinced that for further progress in information, let alone other > matters, some recognition of the limitations of Peirce may have to be > recognized. John's statement that "pragmatics means action" can be applicable > to

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-21 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Loet Leydesdorff Sent: den 21 mars 2011 08:04 To: joe.bren...@bluewin.ch; fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror To paraphrase Antonio Salieri's famous "Prima la musica, dopo le parole&quo

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-21 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
To paraphrase Antonio Salieri's famous "Prima la musica, dopo le parole", I say "first reality, then the signs". Dear Joseph: “allegro, ma non troppo”! In the 18th century, “nature” is still considered as God’s creation and therefore has priority to our (human) wordings and signings. Thus

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-20 Thread Gavin Ritz
. To: colli...@ukzn.ac.za; Pedro C. Marijuan; fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror   Dear John, Pedro, Jerry and All,   Fortunately or unfortunately, I am convinced that for further progress in information, let alone other matters, some recogn

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-20 Thread joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
Dear John, Pedro, Jerry and All, Fortunately or unfortunately, I am convinced that for further progress in information, let alone other matters, some recognition of the limitations of Peirce may have to be recognized. John's statement that "pragmatics means action" can be applicable to real