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Ok let's retry... plain text this time.
Hello there,
After having read that post you signaled (and the ones related to GC
issues), I wrote a really simple Air application that scans one or more
directories for actionscript files and checks their content to see
whether or not every
If I recall correctly, the problem only exists with event listeners for
Timer, stage and EnterFrame event listeners.
Stage listeners are easy to clean up. If you ever attach a listener to the
stage, add it within the ADDED_TO_STAGE handler, make sure you remove it
within the REMOTED_FROM_STAGE
Hello Erik,
I always try to clean every addEventListener I put in my code, but, as
you said, Timer, Stage and EnterFrame events are in fact the ones that
cause the problems.
In fact this little application is useful only for tracking event
listeners that the programmer has forgotten to remove.
to hand me a flaming torch just yet..
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I can see
dispense.
No need to hand me a flaming torch just yet..
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from my tests so far, this creates only one reference targetable by
your code, but two instances sit in memory ...
and some time after a new instance is created (given the complexity
of what's created in this newly created instance), everything crashes
cedric
if the player revisits a
@andrei
Well, the alternative that I suggested at the end would be to just keep
track of the swfs that I had loaded and not go through the steps of
attempting to unload them described in previous posts. So, it would only be
broken after the bug fix in the sense that I could ideally be releasing
with placards dispense.
No need to hand me a flaming torch just yet..
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I can see that most of us feel very strongly about this bug. Adobe
has
made it clear
hmmm, that's not so bad... I'm kinda partial to:
myMovie.forceUnload()
or
myMovie.noSeriouslyUnload()
Although this also has it's own sort of personal charm:
myMovie.iDontCareIfYouHaveListeners_DIE_DAMN_YOU_DIE() ;
Sorry, read this after my morning caffeine rush hit
On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Jer Brand wrote:
myMovie.iDontCareIfYouHaveListeners_DIE_DAMN_YOU_DIE() ;
LOL.
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hmmm, that's not so bad... I'm kinda partial
Is there any conceivable way that such a thing could be built as a
custom class, should Adobe choose to ignore the masses?
.m
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hmmm, that's not so bad... I'm kinda partial to:
myMovie.forceUnload()
or
Every SWF to be loaded would need an instance of that custom class and
register its events, etc. with it so a method could be called on it to blow
it up.
I think.
Seems like it would be a pretty monstrous booger to do and implement.
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I can see that most of us feel very strongly about this bug. Adobe has
made it clear that their formal channel to do something about it is to vote
in their ticketing system for the bug. If there already
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I can see that most of us feel very strongly about this bug. Adobe
has
made it clear that their formal channel to do something about it is
to vote
This always sent me to the colliflowers. Important things should work
as intended. It is not our role to do main bugs feedback (as this one
is). Is Adobe paying people for finding such obvious bugs ?
Cedric
Francis Cheng wrote:
Grant's post is helpful because he discusses the issue in such
WTF ??
Steven Sacks a écrit :
Thanks for the link to Alex Harui's post, Francis.
It unquestionably supports my stance that only advanced developers
should be using AS3 and everyone else (95% of Flash developers)
should stick with AS1/AS2.
Bullshit
This issue of not unloading swfs
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Thanks for the link to Alex Harui's post, Francis.
It unquestionably supports my stance
As a sidenote. The GC is not public. You should never call a method
directly on the GC. Do not use it in order to clean up memory. This
fails (fatally: crashes on the way).
If the GC implementation in Flash was truly transparent, then
somebody
would be able to explain why Grant's
Put your handbags down people.
The guy swore a few times - deal with it remember that Stephen swore
first - I don't hear you having a go at him.
Just because a guy's English ain't as good as your own is not a reason
to start belittling him, especially where we can all see you.
Mum says,
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just because a guy's English ain't as good as your own is not a reason to
start belittling him, especially where we can all see you.
I'm not belittling him because of his english. Je suis sur qu'il
pourrais me moquer a cause
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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just because a guy's English ain't as good as your own is not a reason to
start belittling him, especially where we
I'm not belittling him because of his english. Je suis sur qu'il
pourrais me moquer a cause de mon francais debile. My real issue is
that Steven, while no doubt heated, was keeping it focused on the
code, while Laurent inexplicably spiralled it off into the personal
with a series of totally OT
On 15/04/2008 15:35, Pete Hotchkiss wrote:
People please - can we keep this thing ON TOPIC !!!
Indeed.
My understanding is that only SWFs loaded from the same domain are
affected - those loaded from an external domain or a subdomain are
protected by an implicit sandbox. So while they can't
Fair enough. To get back on topic: Moocks EA3 book does address this
issue, but I'm wondering if he has addressed it more recently,
particularly in light of the recent upswell of interest?
.m
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To me, this is more offensive than
Matt S. wrote:
I'm not belittling him because of his english.
I don't remember anybody objecting to his English abilities. I certainly
never would, because I would be quite vulnerable in my second language. On
the other hand, I wouldn't have people objecting to my impolite words,
because I
ON TOPIC:
I can see that most of us feel very strongly about this bug. Adobe has
made it clear that their formal channel to do something about it is to
vote in their ticketing system for the bug. If there already is a bug,
can someone link to it? Otherwise let's get a bug in there. And then
For the record, I never belittled his English, but rather celebrated his
the internet is serious business approach, which actually had a
greater affect on diffusing my frustration than anything else. :)
http://blog.mediacatalyst.com/images/seriousbusiness.jpg
celebrated his the internet is serious business approach
It's INTERNETS, damnit! Now, can we put this derail to rest?
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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I can see that most of us feel very strongly about this bug. Adobe has
made it clear that their formal channel to do something
Does anyone know if Adobe is fixing this huge FP9 problem?
http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2008/04/failure_to_unlo.html
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Bank of America
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No they are not. In fact, their absolute refusal to fix it is the
reason for Grant's post.
If you want it fixed, you're going to have to put pressure on Adobe,
which they have certainly earned with this. Talk about it on every
online forum and blog. Point to Grant's blog entry. Expose the
And just a note here, but the blogosphere is starting to come alive with
people talking about this issue.
Funny that MXNA has been down for the past couple of days.
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I don't completely understand everything it's describing but I sent it on to
our programming team who responded with the words wow...heinous bug.
Brian Mays
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And just a note here, but the blogosphere is starting to come alive with
Indeed, its pretty bad and pretty unworkable in some circumstances as Grant
has pointed out. Ick.
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I don't completely understand everything it's describing but I sent it on
to
our programming team who responded with the words
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Francis Cheng wrote:
Grant's post is helpful because he discusses the issue in such detail,
but it would be even more helpful to have a concrete test case that
exhibits this problem.
Francis,
With all due respect, the Flash team knows about this, and they don't
need any more concrete test
1) Are flv's affected?
2) Does it ruin Adobe media player?
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1) Are flv's affected?
2) Does it ruin Adobe media player?
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that contain flv/audio are
affected (e.g. audio will continue to play when unloading the swf).
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Let's get down to brass tax.
Grant's post is not some bug report and everyone at Adobe knows it.
Coming on here and trying to downplay it isn't going to get you very far
because people are going to call bullshit. It's a major problem for
Adobe for this to be made public and one reason it
Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/fcheng
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Francis Cheng wrote:
Grant's
You could write them an email saying you will do that if they don't fix
this huge issue ending your mail with such an smiley ;)
Instead of being a huge sucker. I hope, Steven, this is just part of the
strategy. How much money have you make since flash player is out...? 300
000$ a year you
Thanks for the link to Alex Harui's post, Francis.
It unquestionably supports my stance that only advanced developers
should be using AS3 and everyone else (95% of Flash developers) should
stick with AS1/AS2. This issue of not unloading swfs unless you
explicitly turn everything off inside
Also I want to make clear that I am not putting any words into Grant's
mouth. I have not had any discussion with Grant personally on this topic.
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Ha! I never said I make $300,000 a year. Where did you get such a
crazy idea as that? :)
The Flash player team knew they were in a pickle and instead of
providing a way to punt something or forcibly shut it down, they opted
to not say anything and hope that nobody figured it out. That
Steven Sacks a écrit :
Thanks for the link to Alex Harui's post, Francis.
It unquestionably supports my stance that only advanced developers
should be using AS3 and everyone else (95% of Flash developers) should
stick with AS1/AS2.
Bullshit
This issue of not unloading swfs unless you
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I don't need other companies out there pushing competing
Laurent, you're my hero! teh internet is serious business INDEED! :)
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Ha!
Paul Andrews wrote:
You're saving them the job. If I were reading this thread I'd wonder
how anyone had ever done anything with Flash.
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Of laurent
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Steven Sacks a écrit :
Thanks for the link to Alex Harui's post, Francis.
It unquestionably supports my stance that only advanced developers
should be using AS3
Yeah I'm sorry Steven, I don't have real technical arguments on all this
and of course you're making a point that perhaps - because no one can
prove it, even not the aliens, I'm working for them they have no clue,
and I know you don't that was just to see how far you can go - perhaps
adobe
I'm so confused... You bummed that you don't make that much, or: ticked that
he wants to force action on this bug, or: hate the color of his shirt, or
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:44 PM, laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah I'm sorry Steven, I don't have real technical arguments on all
Steven Sacks wrote:
And to the guy who said Disney doesn't give a shit, you're wrong.
Disney is undergoing a major overhaul of all their Flash content to
AS3. They've been in touch with Adobe about this. Let's not spread
misinformation here. I think Adobe has done enough.
Toyota is
.
Be constructive not destructive.
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Thanks for the link to Alex Harui's
Certainly not the first one, perhaps a mix of the two last you wrote.
There's way of doing things. And way to say as if as a professionnal way
totally unprofessionnal things.
L
Bob Wohl a écrit :
I'm so confused... You bummed that you don't make that much, or: ticked that
he wants to force
ah, clarity!
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:13 PM, laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Certainly not the first one, perhaps a mix of the two last you wrote.
There's way of doing things. And way to say as if as a professionnal way
totally unprofessionnal things.
L
Bob Wohl a écrit :
I'm so
Laurent wrote:
what the f**k is a flash player in the universe god damn it!
By the way, Disney just called me, they don't give a s**t...
Ouch. Ok, I'm old-fashioned, but, please, Laurent, out of consideration for
the more prudish members of the list like myself, could you refrain from
that
Laurent wrote:
what the f**k is a flash player in the universe god damn it!
By the way, Disney just called me, they don't give a s**t...
Kerry Thompson wrote:
Ouch. Ok, I'm old-fashioned, but, please, Laurent, out of consideration for
the more prudish members of the list like myself,
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