Lord Hasenpfeffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote
> > I hear that Yoko's afraid to do it because of the George Harrison
stabbing.
>
> Lamp Piece.
>
> Myke
I suggest
Lamb Piece
sounds better with stabbing
Bertrand
I tried a quick translation of your text, you do have some strange politic
debates in your country... I could name hundreds of better subject matters
for your deputy to discuss about... ;-)
Bertrand.
> Can somebody translate this into English? I am Turkish and would like to
> know what this is al
> << Yipes--I sent off that post before I read this. Another Popeye fan, how
> touching. >>
>
> And Popeye's not as narcissistic as God, who says "I Am that I Am". (I Am,
> therefore I Am -- might have given God a more philosophical sounding
nature,
> rather than his "my way or the highway" atti
Craig wrote:
>I have found some tangential connections between Fluxus folks and
> Letterists (etc), but nothing really literal (any avtual
> connections -- letters/collaborations/meetings? -- that anyone
> might know about between Fluxus and CoBrA).
Between Fluxus and Cobra, I d'on't know anythi
Craig wrote:
>I have found some tangential connections between
Fluxus folks and> Letterists (etc), but nothing really literal (any
avtual> connections -- letters/collaborations/meetings? -- that
anyone> might know about between Fluxus and CoBrA).
I remember some others very early contacts
Dear Ken, dear Sol,
I' found this quote out of Dick Higgins'
"Boredom and Danger" (in Foew&ombwhnw), and thought it would be of some
help...
"But it is still a very long way from the musical
expressionism, which merely denies that the entertainment are at all to a point,
to the situation i
> that Cage was the great rediscoverer of Satie as soon as in the thirties
>
> Americans. How was it possible that he got forgotten und how unique was
> he ?
>
> I think there is a permanent stream, how would you see the french
> filmmakers ?
>
> Speaking of moviesand zen
Sorry for this Hei
> hi everyone,
>
> i would very much appreciate knowing where i can find 'boredom and danger'
> by higgins.
>
> thank you,
>
> joshthorpe.com
It was published in Foew&ombhnw, a Dick Higgins essays and critics book,
Something Else Press, 1966 or1967, I can't remelmber exactly right now.
> > Even in his day, I think Mozart had a publisher. And his music wouldn't
have
> > survived if it hadn't been written down on paper.
>
> Still, his music was legitimately "released" and later embraced by the
public
> all without the assistance of "cover art" which was my point. To feel a
sense
> But were such covers generally considered "official" in the sense that
> all later copies of the sheet music were supposed to be adorned with the
> same graphics the way we treat LPs, CDs, cassettes, etc. these days?
> Or was it OK to change things around from one printing to the next
> or so pe
> i just ordered "the four suits" by knowles, patterson, corner, and schmit
> for $25 US from another bookseller. we'll see how it turns out.
I found it less interesting. I've just bought myself Manifestos 1966, also
published by Dick and the SEPress. Great, great, great, contributions.
By the wa
-
> Josh
> You mean "Meaningless Work" right? It's also in An Anthology. I think I
have
> a copy of it on file which I could email to you if you like.
>
> RA
if ever it wasn't to har to send a copy to me too...
Bertrand. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way, may be we could begin some online fluxus
> THREE AQUEOUS EVENTS
> ice
> water
> steam
It's George Brecht
> What is the exact wording of one of Eric Andresens 'Opera Instruction',
> which according to my mind goes like this:
>
> do try to and/or not to do something significant.
There it is:
Opera Instruction
Do and/or don't do som
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De : Sol Nte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
À : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envoyé : jeudi 20 avril 2000 14:15
Objet : Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus History (Gutai Group)
> Heiko's thoughts on pre-Fluxus Fluxus remind me that I always wondered
what
> contact if any was made between artists th
> > I need to research some artists who have
> > dealt with socio-economic issues and wonder
> > if you could recommend any.
try also Matthieu LAURETTE. Does very interesting things here in france:
he's been making his living with the "satisfyed or paid back" products,
systematically asking for
and I do not agree with the
> >anarchist statement that "property is theft."
> The phrase "property is theft" is from Proudhon. His view was not at all
> simplistic, but based on a critique of the capital - labour relation...
All the more that in this precise case, Proudhon was denying the soluti
Dear all,
I'm trying to send a poetry submission as an attachment (some
random use of my scanner) but it doesn't appear on the list (even though it's
the second time i send it). Is there anything wrong with those rtf files
and the server?
By the way,i'd like to inform all the fluxlisters of
De : Ken Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
À : Fluxlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envoyé : vendredi 23 juin 2000 20:16
Objet : FLUXLIST: Which "we" did Sol Nte represent as list administrator?
> Here I will make a personal note of distinction. I was one of the
> founders. I would like to have seen a slig
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De : R.Gancie/C.Parcelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
À : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envoyé : vendredi 23 juin 2000 00:51
Objet : Re: FLUXLIST: Breton removed?
> > One particularly
> > memorable piece from that show was the French guy who canned his own
feces
> > and sold it as "a
I don't think the Dadaists felt themselves
> privledged, i.e. "card-carrying members of the Dada Club," to be able to
do
> such things
You might be right, even though there use to be a real club Dada, in Berlin
I think, as far as someone like Kurt Schwitters was clearly refused to enter
in in 191
Even your now-dead high-fluxist-priest
> advocated censuring my ideas online... and all this I don't mind but ONLY
> if the lists are truly open, free and democratic.
>
> Free Fluxlist Now!
>
>
> /:b
FREE BRAD BRACE NOW!! LET HIM GO OUT OF THIS CENSURED PLACE NOW!! as he
seems to ask for...
be
De : CHAMPOY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> i'm trying to make artworks out of my feces by trying
> to eat different kinds of foods and drinking some
> edible coloringsany suggestions what other kinds
> of food that i might eat to produce such a very
> interesting effect on my feces.
>
> -cham
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De : David Baptiste Chirot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> She
recounts walking with Picasso thrugh the streets of war time Paris (First
> World War) and seeing camouflaged tanks--
> "we have already done that" Picasso says--in reference to Cubism.
> Likewise Marinetti's Fut
I also think of Roman Opalka, who is making his 1- infinite, 1965, which is
a continuous counting work, started by one, two, three, four, five etc. ad
infinitum. He writes the numbers in write with oil on black painted
canvases, and each time he ends with a canvas, he shoots a photo
selfportraict
Dear all,
As some of you may know I'm working on Fluxus for my PhD. I
write to all of you today because I'm looking for some documents that some of
you might have, and which are unable in France. I'm looking for the wole
collection of the Something Else Newsletter (of course not the originals
.
>
> > This is, btw, a very Flux-before-the-fact book. Who has read it here?
I did, some years ago.
Really great thing. Announcing most of pataphysics et al.
I read those books from Sterne, the Journey, and of course Tristram Shandy,
which I remind as a most delightful book, with amazing litterary and poetic
inventions, and a remarkable sense of humor. Moreover, it is one of the
first novel to play with the categories of the representation of time and
> > I was once again thinking of which Duchamp biography to read (any
suggestions?
> I would say Calvin Tomkins or Pierre Cabanne.
You can also try to find the "Interviews with Marcel Duchamp" of¨Pierre
Cabanne (I d'on't if it has been translated from french -original title is
Entretiens avec M
> > Sterne at the Lord Chamber in which he denounces the starvation in
Ireland
> > by proposing various way of cooking babies to fight the lack of food.
>
> Isnt this by Swift ?
>
> Who is much faster and much more readable IMHO.
You're absolutely right...I'd better sleep more, it's good for me
De : Sol Nte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
À : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envoyé : jeudi 14 septembre 2000 11:09
Objet : FLUXLIST: response to Bertrand
> Bertrand wrote:
>
> >I kept a long silent those last weeks, because I was moving to the west
of
> France, in Bretagne, and also because my first baby is born t
Disco wrote
> I don't know much about Fluxus. I know the few stories I have heard on
this
> list and the basic facts. Things I have read and learned but my well of
> knowledge regaurding Fluxus isn't that deep.
so dig into it
> I find what I do know extremely
> interesting and am eager to learn
Reed Altemus wrote
> How about: yes, I have several books by Something Else: Anthology of
Concrete
> Poetry, Annotated Topography of Chance, FOEW, and Jefferson's
> Birthday/Postface.
> I have just finished reading all of them, anyone else read any of these
and
> would
> like to start a discussion
> Now, there's an interesting point about Fluxus it'll continue until
> people tire of it.
> I wonder how many of the original fluxus artists are tired of it?
this is a very good question. It's amazing to see how much the original
fluxus bunch came to be tired of Fluxus very soon in the "movem
> so, what things interest me, well many but
> in regard to Fluxus I'm fascinated by Something Else Press
publicationsI
> have my own small collection of them which may grow if I win the lottery
or
> become a highwayman, what really intrigues me is the clever printing
> techniques..
I also ha
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De : Heiko Recktenwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
À : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envoyé : vendredi 15 septembre 2000 00:25
Objet : Re: FLUXLIST: Tristram Shandy
> > > Isnt this by Swift ?
> > >
> > > Who is much faster and much more readable IMHO.
> >
> >
> > You're absolutely r
Sol wrote:
> What I do like about Something Else Press and Hansjorg Mayer is that both
> use a trade book format to convey artistic contents which I infinitely
> prefer as an artist's book strategyI have never really got into, say
> accordion books for example..they're very nice but the outsi
dear Sol,
once again I spent a long time without being able to follow the Fluxlist
movement. I must say that your large mind openness (I'm not sure that this
word exist) and your kindness is a true example of tolerance to me.
> Bertrand, I agree with you. I don't know what happened exactly..guess
> One of the problems with the Fluxlist is that it is so much based on
> mythology and ignorance.
one of the interesting thing with fluxus is that it is so much based on
mythology and mythomany
> E.g Bertrand wrote: "The ridiculous way that Eric Andersen still say that
> Ken Friedman came to la
Owen Smith wrote (sorry, I keep trying to finsih with my late in posts...)
jeudi 14 septembre 2000 17:24
Objet : Re: FLUXLIST: response Sol
> Over the last few years as I have explored Fluxus I have become
> increasingly dissatisfied with traditional scholarly or historical
> approaches to the s
De : Porges, Timothy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envoyé : jeudi 14 septembre 2000 18:30
Objet : RE: FLUXLIST: response Sol
> Young fluxus was constantly told then that it was nothing new, nothing
> important, and so on. Amazing, what tyrannical old farts the dadaists
turned
> into. So what does this mea
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De : Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
À : Fluxlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envoyé : jeudi 30 novembre 2000 01:27
Objet : FLUXLIST: To Name
> Dear Heiko,
>
> I wasn't concerned about naming things. And didn't deal with what could
> be called Fluxus or not. I objected t
Dear Eric,
You're right in saying that the first appearance of the term Fluxus was for
that lithuanian magazine, but saying that Maciunas had a very little insight
into the experimental art scene is a bit strong. He organized the Musica
Antica e Nova, with people like La Monte, Cage, Corner, Dick
> For Bertrand: Yes, Maciunas had many, many wonderful talents, but theory
>
> was certainly not one of them.Only Ben Vautier could find any interest in
Maciunas texts. The
> rest of us just went along because we considered them completely
> unimportant. We had our own opinions which differed a l
> Bertrand
>
> What do you think of Postface/JB as a history of Fluxus? What do you think
of
> Dick
> Higgins' theater pieces? What about the "Danger Music" series-
interesting?
>
> RA
Dear Reed
Postface/JB as a history of Fluxus is something evident to me: the
typographical choice of inverting
> James wrote:
>
> >Can anyone tell me what this is --many thanks for any kind of info,
> background, etc
>
> A white folder containing:
>
> Participations to the Festival of Non Art -- Anti Art -- Truth Art -- How
> to Change Art and Mankind --That Took Place from the 1st to the 15th of
> June
Dear friends,
first of all I would like to say that I'm really happy to see that the
warrior spirit that invades all the medias and a good part of the people,
has not reach the Fluxlist. Here in France we had to deal with terrorism in
the past decades, even though it never reached those lasts culm
Dear Fluxlisters,
here is an URL where you can find some images of the Fluxus Concert of
Annecy
http://performers.free.fr/fluxus/annecy.html
The concert was really beautiful, ended in a happy mess with the paper
pieces of Takako Saito and Ben Patterson. We spent two marvellous days with
Eric And
Dear fluxlisters, dear Sol
sorry for the error in the address...and congratulations to Alan Bowman to
have guessed the end of it!
The concert was marvellous, and the audience was wonderfully receptive to
the pieces played. Actually, we ended it being invaded by the people coming
on stage, and I w
> >... does today have some kind of numerological significance?
> >
> >101001
Yes
It's my 31st birthday
Bertrand
P.S.: Don't forget the FLuxus concert in Annecy 27th of October (or is there
no one interested in FLuxus here?)
Great Names, Huge Place To Fill (1000seats), Good Fluxus Goodies e
Thought I had sent a mail two days ago...
Maybe, I did something wrong.
Anyway, there is the content:
hello,
sorry to bother with my question. Nothing to do with the
remove-me-from-fluxlist-affair...
just that I've changed my address, and would like to receive the fluxlist at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in
> Sounds great Alan - out of curiosity how long did Zyklus take to perform?
and did you end up spilling any on purpose?
I could tell things...
But Alan was very careful untill the end... but the end of the evening
(Larry Miller and Ann Noel convinced him to go for dinner and to let the
museum be
> Whats all the fuss with Eric Andersen? I'm already a more "established
> artist" than Eric Andersen,
> and I am 22 years old.
I don't understand, you're an established artist, and you're still smelling
Fluxus ass? c'mon, you can't be established and try to be fluxus, that's how
Eric is XXX year
Dear Fluxlisters,
if you want to, you can go to see our website at www.4t.fluxus.net where you
will find informations about our Fluxus Festival in France in November
2002...It is still under construction, so it's only in french for the
moment, 9but a eglish versio should arrive soon. You can sees
Tintinnabulation is of common use in French, as much as the verb
"tintinnabuler", but I didn't know it was invented: who's the author? (Lewis
Carrol? James Joyce? Barbara Cartland?)
Bertrand
> I must admit, it says a lot about an artist when an invented word becomes
> part of language.
> Do you th
> but i really liked barbara cartland, bertrand
You mean, as an author? ...
There is another nice word in French, maybe with the same origin :
Tintamarre, which describe an astounding noise, but done vith an intention
(like a military orchestra tuning
their instruments, or like Fluxus artists pla
Thank you Allen, I hope to put the english version on line by next week, but
it's a bit hard here...
Anyway, we added some new stuff, like the very nice performance of Ben
Patterson in Paris titled Dental Bach.
www.4t.fluxus.net
Bertrand
> Thanks, Bertrand. Good website. Website is a treat.
>
> > but i really liked barbara cartland, bertrand
> You mean, as an author? ...
> There is another nice word in French, maybe with the same origin :
> Tintamarre, which describe an astounding noise, but done vith an intention
> (like a military orchestra tuning
> their instruments, or like Flux
> Thank you Allen, I hope to put the english version on line by next week,
but
> it's a bit hard here...
> Anyway, we added some new stuff, like the very nice performance of Ben
> Patterson in Paris titled Dental Bach.
> www.4t.fluxus.net
>
> Bertrand
>
>
> > Thanks, Bertrand. Good website. We
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