Re: Installing latest version of LaTeX

2009-06-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 09:31:11PM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > I added the winefish package (LaTeX editor) and installed the > print/latex port. During the installation/building of the latex port, > I received a message that the version being installed was over 5 years > old. When I tried to

Re[2]: fatal trap 12

2009-06-05 Thread georg
Hello, Freebsd-questions. After one of new crash I have this: GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show

Re: Getting old versions of FreeBSD

2009-06-05 Thread Frederique Rijsdijk
Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Frederique Rijsdijk : >> >> For some 'issue' I have to install an old version FreeBSD: 4.7-p28. The >> ISO of 4.7 I have found, but how to get to p28? > > That code is still in the version control system, all you need to do is > configure cvsup to fetch it and r

Re: how do i use gdb with < input?

2009-06-05 Thread Steven Schlansker
On Jun 5, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Gary Kline wrote: i'm trying to walk thru a short program and see what's actually happening. can anybody remind me how to send a file file "< redirect" to ./ a.out? gdb myprog (gdb) run < myfile ___ freebsd-questi

Shutting down X with control+alt+backspace

2009-06-05 Thread Luke Dean
This is an answer to a question I started to post, but then decided to research instead. I know many readers of this list use the feature I'm describing. When Xorg was upgraded to version 7.4, the historic ability to shut down X with Control+Alt+Backspace became a non-default option. The solut

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 12:36:14PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Tuesday 02 June 2009 10:59:51 am Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > I would add - with Open Source add it's far smaller (actually close to > > zero) probability that it doesn't do anything except it's supposed to do. > > > > I mean thin

Re: Installing latest version of LaTeX

2009-06-05 Thread bf
> Thanks for the info. I'll have to try to install TeX Live. This is not trivial, which is one of the reasons it hasn't been done. First, try to diagnose your errors with TeTeX. You should probably be able to get this to work. The errors may have to do with your files, or the commands you are

Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD

2009-06-05 Thread Kirk Strauser
Chris Rees wrote: Traditional: % tar xzvf bluurgh.tgz GNU recommended: $ tar --extract --verbose --gunzip --file bluurgh.tgz Seriously, why are long options encouraged? Scripting. I almost always use long options when writing scripts I might use again later so that 6 months later I don't

Re: GCC/GCJ and pdftk

2009-06-05 Thread bf
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Joe Auty wrote: > From: Joe Auty > Subject: Re: GCC/GCJ and pdftk > To: "bf" > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 10:42 PM > Joe Auty wrote: > > bf wrote: > >> > > > >>> However, I've also read in the pdftk port logs > that gcj is included in

Re: What's wrong with this picture?

2009-06-05 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 05 Jun 2009 at 15:06:40 PDT Paul Chvostek wrote: If you elect to filter this person's traffic, and are concerned that you'll continue to be inundated with replies, I'd like to suggest a small procmail script I wrote years ago. http://www.it.ca/~paul/s/procmail-filter-msgid It ca

how do i use gdb with < input?

2009-06-05 Thread Gary Kline
i'm trying to walk thru a short program and see what's actually happening. can anybody remind me how to send a file file "< redirect" to ./a.out? thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jo

Dabber proudly presents The Stockholm Exhibition as a new client

2009-06-05 Thread DABBER . tv
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Re: Can a Bourn Shell Script put itself in the background?

2009-06-05 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:02:00 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > . . . or use tmux instead of GNU Screen, if you like. > > I got the impression this question was about a script backgrounding > itself, though -- possibly creating a daemon using bash. Maybe using detach (from ports) is a solution. It let's

Re: GCC/GCJ and pdftk

2009-06-05 Thread Joe Auty
Joe Auty wrote: bf wrote: However, I've also read in the pdftk port logs that gcj is included in GCC 3.4+ when WITHOUT_JAVA in the GCC Makefile is set to no or commented out. So, I compiled GCC with gcj support without a problem, and Oh yes, did you? Really? How? Better look again. Sor

Re: is this getting thru?

2009-06-05 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:00:37PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > i got a bizarre bouch back saying that my post from last night had to be > > okayed.. like, say what:_) > > What? > sorry: should have been "bounce back". when i responded to the middle of

Re: Installing latest version of LaTeX

2009-06-05 Thread Daniel Underwood
Thanks for the info. I'll have to try to install TeX Live. "despite repeated attempts and a lot of talk, no one has introduced this into FreeBSD Ports yet" --> that's a shame... (La)TeX is a must-have tool for me. I usually do most of my LaTeX'ing in Linux, but I'd love to be able to use FreeBS

Re: GCC/GCJ and pdftk

2009-06-05 Thread Joe Auty
bf wrote: However, I've also read in the pdftk port logs that gcj is included in GCC 3.4+ when WITHOUT_JAVA in the GCC Makefile is set to no or commented out. So, I compiled GCC with gcj support without a problem, and Oh yes, did you? Really? How? Better look again. Yes, I did: $ ls

Re: is this getting thru?

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Bertrand
Gary Kline wrote: > i got a bizarre bouch back saying that my post from last night had to be > okayed.. like, say what:_) What? Steve smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

is this getting thru?

2009-06-05 Thread Gary Kline
i got a bizarre bouch back saying that my post from last night had to be okayed.. like, say what:_) -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.th

Re: it is about installing FreeBSD on USB stick

2009-06-05 Thread Fbsd1
Eric Hsieh wrote: hello, this is my first time to ask a help from FreeBSD. I have a question about installing FreeBSD on USB stick. There are so many informations about how to install FreeBSD on USB stick from Internet, but I can not find out any information about follow : first, if i install Fre

Re: Installing latest version of LaTeX

2009-06-05 Thread bf
> MY QUESTION: Please help me to install the newest version of latex. > I'm using 7.2-RELEASE. Install the latest version available in FreeBSD Ports, which is in print/teTeX. If your program still doesn't function properly, then you're probably have to install a more recent version of TeX Live

Installing latest version of LaTeX

2009-06-05 Thread Daniel Underwood
I added the winefish package (LaTeX editor) and installed the print/latex port. During the installation/building of the latex port, I received a message that the version being installed was over 5 years old. When I tried to add latex via pkg_add, I had no success (I assumed the package was named

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 01:31:16AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Not counting the CPU and its power circuitry, I would be very suprised if > > the other components on a normal motherboard pulled as much as half of that > > even when under load. > > > > In fact a typical modern desktop computer

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Not counting the CPU and its power circuitry, I would be very suprised if the other components on a normal motherboard pulled as much as half of that even when under load. In fact a typical modern desktop computer will, when idle, draw less than 100W for the whole system. It is not even difficul

Re: GCC/GCJ and pdftk

2009-06-05 Thread bf
>I need pdftk to compile on an amd64 system, and see in the pdftk >Makefile the following: > > # gcj/libgcj don't exist on these platforms > > NOT_FOR_ARCHS= amd64 ia64 sparc64 NOT_FOR_ARCHS is _usually_ there for a reason. In this case, it's because the lang/gcc4* maintainer hasn't devised a

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 12:43:23AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Much less than a Pentium 4! Exactly I don't know. This server is a > > normal PC with a 380W PSU (still too much for the hardware). The funny > > thing is that the CPU in it (Pentium Dual Core E5200 45nm) is supposed > > to draw u

Re: named: error sending response: not enough free resources

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
This is a dedicated server in a datacenter. I don't know the exact switch specs but it's likely a layer 2/3 managed switch. Probably a 1U catalyst. you mean cisco? there are actually most problematic switches. They don't properly autonegotiate speed and full/half duplex with many network card

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 02:33:28PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:46:21AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > The links browser's interface is crap, as is that of every other text > > console based browser I've ever encountered. Moving around within a > > page and selecting a l

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:20:24PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >Slight tangent, and you may have mentioned it before: What window manager > >do you use? > > fvwm2, BUT not because i like it's tools and widgets, but because all of > them can be easily turned off :) > > My configuration strips

Re: GCC/GCJ and pdftk

2009-06-05 Thread Greg Larkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Larkin wrote: > Joe Auty wrote: >> Hello, > >> I'm a little confused. > >> I need pdftk to compile on an amd64 system, and see in the pdftk >> Makefile the following: > >>> # gcj/libgcj don't exist on these platforms >>> NOT_FOR_ARCHS= amd64 ia

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 09:17:17PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > 2009/6/5 Chad Perrin : > > > > That's horrifying.  Remind me to never visit one of your Webpages. > > > > Luckily, I can touch-type, because the temporary blindness induced by > > that site when the bright yellow irradiated my retinas st

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:22:48PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >That's horrifying. Remind me to never visit one of your Webpages. > > > >Luckily, I can touch-type, because the temporary blindness induced by > >that site when the bright yellow irradiated my retinas still hasn't > >entirely

Re: named: error sending response: not enough free resources

2009-06-05 Thread Chris St Denis
Steve Bertrand wrote: Chris St Denis wrote: Steve Bertrand wrote: What type of device is em1 attached to? Is it a switch or a hub? Is it possible to upgrade this? You should upgrade it to 100 (or 1000) anyways. Does this device show any collisions? This is a dedicated se

Re: Can a Bourn Shell Script put itself in the background?

2009-06-05 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:02:00 -0600, >> Chad Perrin said: C> I got the impression this question was about a script backgrounding itself, C> though -- possibly creating a daemon using bash. Same here. This seems a bit slimy, but it works (assuming you don't already have an environment va

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Much less than a Pentium 4! Exactly I don't know. This server is a normal PC with a 380W PSU (still too much for the hardware). The funny thing is that the CPU in it (Pentium Dual Core E5200 45nm) is supposed to draw under 4W of power when idle with EIST enabled. This power draw unless CPU are c

Re: Can a Bourn Shell Script put itself in the background?

2009-06-05 Thread relay.lists
= #!/bin/bash # This script will sleep # 50 times for 1 second in # the background main() { for ((i=0 ; i<=50 ;i++)) do sleep 1 let i++ done } main & # EOF == -- Best regards, Daniel __

Re: phidgets for FreeBSD?

2009-06-05 Thread Brooks Davis
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 01:25:09AM +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:07:53 +0300 Ghirai wrote: > > Is there any (native) FreeBSD supoprt for Phidgets > > (http://www.phidgets.com? > > > > Someone seems to have attempted (and succeeded) to run things on 7.0, > > some time ago, b

Re: What's wrong with this picture?

2009-06-05 Thread Paul Chvostek
Ian, On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 04:00:40PM +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > > Woj, 20 out of 36 messages, over 55% of all these messages, are by you. ... > You are equally as capable in this role as wannabe list wrecker, opining > on every second message including all the silly wildly off-topic ones. If

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Tim Judd
On 6/5/09, Gabriel Lavoie wrote: > Much less than a Pentium 4! Exactly I don't know. This server is a > normal PC with a 380W PSU (still too much for the hardware). The funny > thing is that the CPU in it (Pentium Dual Core E5200 45nm) is supposed > to draw under 4W of power when idle with EIST en

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Gabriel Lavoie
Much less than a Pentium 4! Exactly I don't know. This server is a normal PC with a 380W PSU (still too much for the hardware). The funny thing is that the CPU in it (Pentium Dual Core E5200 45nm) is supposed to draw under 4W of power when idle with EIST enabled. This power draw on Intel 45nm CPUs

GCC/GCJ and pdftk

2009-06-05 Thread Joe Auty
Hello, I'm a little confused. I need pdftk to compile on an amd64 system, and see in the pdftk Makefile the following: > # gcj/libgcj don't exist on these platforms > NOT_FOR_ARCHS= amd64 ia64 sparc64 However, I've also read in the pdftk port logs that gcj is included in GCC 3.4+ when WITHO

Re: RegEx

2009-06-05 Thread Lars Eighner
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a current mailing list that discusses regular expressions? No. Well I don't anyway. I have Googled a number of time, but everything I find is old. Sometimes the old stuff is best. If you had googled very much you should h

Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD

2009-06-05 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:11:00PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > > The point I was trying to make (badly), was that long options are a > PITA to type. I don't believe it's any easier to learn the long names > for options than the short ones. Since you're typing huge amounts of > text quickly, you're

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/5 Gabriel Lavoie : > I think my file/print/mail server is a bit overkill: > > http://w3.mutehq.net:8008/sysinfo/ > What a waste... How much power does that chug?? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Gabriel Lavoie
I think my file/print/mail server is a bit overkill: http://w3.mutehq.net:8008/sysinfo/ 2009/6/5 Valentin Bud : > Hello community, > >  I have an old computer (ASRock P4Dual-915GL) with Intel P4 > CPU at 3.0Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. > >  I am asking the list maybe is somebody out there with a similar >

Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/5 Thomas Dickey : > On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:49:19PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >GNU recommended: >> > >> >$ tar --extract --verbose --gunzip --file bluurgh.tgz >> > >> >Seriously, why are long options encouraged? >> > >> there are people that like to write a lot? ;) > > no..., other

Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD

2009-06-05 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:49:19PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >GNU recommended: > > > >$ tar --extract --verbose --gunzip --file bluurgh.tgz > > > >Seriously, why are long options encouraged? > > > there are people that like to write a lot? ;) no..., otherwise the people generating this threa

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
is really pentium 4 "downlevel" hardware? sound like a joke to me. Not really. But considering how everyone is buying Core Duos and quads these days, you can get decent P4s for free. could you please tell me where i can get P4 machine for free? :) __

RegEx

2009-06-05 Thread Grant Peel
Hi all, Does anyone know of a current mailing list that discusses regular expressions? I have Googled a number of time, but everything I find is old. Specifically, I am looking for a modification to this per code: #!/usr/local/bin/perl ... my $iframeexp="[\IFRAMEiframe]"; ... fo

Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
GNU recommended: $ tar --extract --verbose --gunzip --file bluurgh.tgz Seriously, why are long options encouraged? there are people that like to write a lot? ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Sorry - it wasn't really intended that way. Please note that "slightly downlevel..." was meant to refer to a combination of older Netburst architecture and consumer retail motherboard. The Core Xeons that replaced the old Netburst processors are much better performers. In a true datacenter server

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Michael Powell
Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> This is one place where FreeBSD is very good. It will give you >> performance on slightly downlevel hardware that Windows Server just can't >> touch. >> > is really pentium 4 "downlevel" hardware? sound like a joke to me. Sorry - it wasn't really intended that way. Pleas

Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD

2009-06-05 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 09:23:06PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > Seriously, why are long options encouraged? Some programs simply have a lot of options, and after a dozen or so, a single letter loses its mnemonic value. X applications have been using long options for 20 years - long enough to get us

Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD

2009-06-05 Thread Kurt Buff
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 13:23, Chris Rees wrote: > 2009/6/5 Kirk Strauser : >> On Friday 05 June 2009 11:50:58 am Chris Rees wrote: >> >>> Is there a 'quick' way to use emacs instead of info? Like info-emacs topic? >> >> Not that I know of.  :-/ >> >>> I've remembered why I hate the info browser so

Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/5 Kirk Strauser : > On Friday 05 June 2009 11:50:58 am Chris Rees wrote: > >> Is there a 'quick' way to use emacs instead of info? Like info-emacs topic? > > Not that I know of.  :-/ > >> I've remembered why I hate the info browser so much; it reminds me of >> the 'help' included with MS-DOS

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/5 Chad Perrin : > On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:50:24PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: >> 2009/6/3 Roland Smith : >> > On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:35:31PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:46:15 -0500, "Gary Gatten" >> >> wrote: >> >> > Isn't there an "OpenVMS" somewhere? >> > >>

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> This is one place where FreeBSD is very good. It will give you >> performance >> on slightly downlevel hardware that Windows Server just can't touch. >> > is really pentium 4 "downlevel" hardware? sound like a joke to me. > > Not really. But considering how everyone is buy

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
This is one place where FreeBSD is very good. It will give you performance on slightly downlevel hardware that Windows Server just can't touch. is really pentium 4 "downlevel" hardware? sound like a joke to me. i made all-need server for small office (8 people) using PIII/500 and 384 MB RAM. i

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Michael Powell
Valentin Bud wrote: > Hello community, > > I have an old computer (ASRock P4Dual-915GL) with Intel P4 > CPU at 3.0Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. > > I am asking the list maybe is somebody out there with a similar > configuration > and running FreeBSD on such a system as a File Server and Print Server > u

Re: Can a Bourn Shell Script put itself in the background?

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 09:29:30AM -0700, Nerius Landys wrote: > Just a thought, you can use the screen utility depending on what you > are trying to do. For example if you want to start a job, long out of > the machine completely, and then return to your job to see how it's > running, you may cho

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:46:21AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > The links browser's interface is crap, as is that of every other text > console based browser I've ever encountered. Moving around within a > page and selecting a link are two tasks for which text console based > browsers have not prov

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The OZONE OS [http://www.o3one.org/] uses a lot of VMS concepts. I just LOVE the webpage. The kind of one I'd make in my spare time... That's horrifying. Remind me to never visit one of your Webpages. Luckily, I can touch-type, because the temporary blindness induced by that site when the b

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
A counter-example is VMS. It is a commercial product, but highly reliable and secure. It's also a much *simpler* piece of software than something like MS Windows, which makes it much easier to secure. you meant more logical? It's really hard to take care of software product that looks like r

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Slight tangent, and you may have mentioned it before: What window manager do you use? fvwm2, BUT not because i like it's tools and widgets, but because all of them can be easily turned off :) My configuration strips everything possible including window titles and borders, window moving and r

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:50:24PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > 2009/6/3 Roland Smith : > > On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:35:31PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:46:15 -0500, "Gary Gatten" > >> wrote: > >> > Isn't there an "OpenVMS" somewhere? > > > > There is an open source clone

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
10 times more power than needed. disks speed is the only limit I have a P-II at 400 MHz running as a file server. See about 5 MB/sec on it depends from both sides ability, but pentium 100 with SDRAM memory can saturate 100Mbit/s network running FreeBSD 6.2 __

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 04:06:18PM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote: > > Whatever happened to BeOS? Be went out of business. There have been a couple of clone projects to spring up since then. As mentioned, there's Haiku, the heir apparent to BeOS at this point. -- Chad Perrin [ original content lice

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
S> months. I've been at a US Air Force MIS helpdesk since Sept 1988. I wrote an article about some of my favorite tools, and as an aside I mentioned my time working in IT support. My favorite article comment: "If I'm still doing this in 21 years, someone please write a program to

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 06:50:39PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > A counter-example is VMS. It is a commercial product, but highly > reliable and secure. It's also a much *simpler* piece of software than something like MS Windows, which makes it much easier to secure. That's just one more thing Mi

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:32:38PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Everyone can find them and fix, but at the same time everyone can find > them and use them. > > With closed source both are more difficult. That's not strictly true. In general, it's easier to discover vulnerabilities through

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 6/5/09, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:49:50AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> but it's at least much more difficult. And - my other rule fits very well >> here. Avoid OVERCOMPLEX programs. > > I tend to agree with this take on things, and I follow a similar > philosophy of

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:43:17 -0400, >> Steve Bertrand said: S> If you've ever had a job in which every single incoming call is someone S> who is frustrated, angry and is going to take it out on *you*, it might S> be understandable why the tech support call centre business is like an S> employ

Are there any fonts I can install to see Mandarin words in the console (non-X)?

2009-06-05 Thread Yuri
In KDE4 Mandarin is displayed correctly everywhere. But in console there are question marks. Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-quest

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:49:50AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > but it's at least much more difficult. And - my other rule fits very well > here. Avoid OVERCOMPLEX programs. I tend to agree with this take on things, and I follow a similar philosophy of software choice. Slight tangent, and

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 12:49:14AM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:59:51 +0200 (CEST) > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > I would add - with Open Source add it's far smaller (actually close > > to zero) probability that it doesn't do anything except it's supposed > > to do. > > > >

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:59:55PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>other programs i have on disk, my addressbook etc. > > > >YES!This is the biggest of the three things I have against MS > >and one of the main reasons for using FreeBSD and other Open Source > >software as much as possible. >

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread David Kelly
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 06:16:49PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >What i mainly try to achieve, talking in storage space, is 2 HDD of 1TB in > >mirroring using gmirror(8) and 1 separate HDD of 500Gb. > > > >So do you think the system I've mentioned would handle the load? The server > > 10 time

Re: What is the equivalent of Linux command 'ps --forest'?

2009-06-05 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 6/5/09, Yuri wrote: > How can I see processes in a hierarchical way? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2009-May/006912.html or pstree from ports. -- Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman

Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD

2009-06-05 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Friday 05 June 2009 11:50:58 am Chris Rees wrote: > Is there a 'quick' way to use emacs instead of info? Like info-emacs topic? Not that I know of. :-/ > I've remembered why I hate the info browser so much; it reminds me of > the 'help' included with MS-DOS 6.22. Anyone remember that? Ouch.

Re: Wireless Woes (NDIS, WPA2)

2009-06-05 Thread Gene
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:18:42 +, Paul B. Mahol wrote > On 6/4/09, Gene wrote: > > Hi All: > > > > I'm trying to get wireless working on a laptop. It works fine as long as no > > encryption is used, but if I try to use either WEP or WPA2, I ueem to always > > wind up with > > > > Status: No Carri

What is the equivalent of Linux command 'ps --forest'?

2009-06-05 Thread Yuri
How can I see processes in a hierarchical way? Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: GCC/GCJ and pdftk

2009-06-05 Thread Greg Larkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Auty wrote: > Hello, > > I'm a little confused. > > I need pdftk to compile on an amd64 system, and see in the pdftk > Makefile the following: > >> # gcj/libgcj don't exist on these platforms >> NOT_FOR_ARCHS= amd64 ia64 sparc64 > > However, I'

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/5 Valentin Bud : > Hello community, > >  I have an old computer (ASRock P4Dual-915GL) with Intel P4 > CPU at 3.0Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. > >  I am asking the list maybe is somebody out there with a similar > configuration > and running FreeBSD on such a system as a File Server and Print Server >

Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/5 Kirk Strauser : > On Thursday 04 June 2009 04:17:56 pm Chris Rees wrote: > >> Info is horrible to use as a quick reference, because as Polytropon >> said earlier, you can't just dive in to get something specific. The >> info is split into (arbitrary) sections, through which you have to

Re: openoffice.org-3 compiling issue

2009-06-05 Thread Jason Helfman
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:33:22AM +0300, Manolis Kiagias thus spake: Jason wrote: Hello, Newbie to FreeBSD here, however I have been studying like a madman, running it on my desktop, and administering systems on a daily basis so I've learned quiet a bit recently. I am trying to install openof

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I did the support gig for the better part of two years when I started school. It was difficult, especially when the people that were frustrated, angry, and determined to take it out on me had broken or ancient hardware and lived out in the boondocks where audible crackling Just put the earphone

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You are absolutely right, and I'm glad you pointed that out. Even I will admit to not minding hanging on the phone a few extra minutes with a calm, polite user (no matter how 'green' they are) if they do what I say (without click-click-clicking in the background) throughout the troubleshooting pro

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Well, I don't know about cable, but this is the way DSL works. 90%+ of the issues with DSL are due to the modem losing connectivity overnight, so a reboot is the quickest and easiest method of troubleshooting. i don't remember now what brand of modem i have (i'm not in place) from Polish Telec

Re: Opinion request about a file server

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have an old computer (ASRock P4Dual-915GL) with Intel P4 CPU at 3.0Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. this is not old - very powerfull machine. I am asking the list maybe is somebody out there with a similar configuration and running FreeBSD on such a system as a File Server and Print Server using samba.

GCC/GCJ and pdftk

2009-06-05 Thread Joe Auty
Hello, I'm a little confused. I need pdftk to compile on an amd64 system, and see in the pdftk Makefile the following: # gcj/libgcj don't exist on these platforms NOT_FOR_ARCHS= amd64 ia64 sparc64 However, I've also read in the pdftk port logs that gcj is included in GCC 3.4+ when WITHOUT

RE: The quest for linux-oracle-instantclient-sqlplus

2009-06-05 Thread Gary Gatten
Can you record your horse-shoe tying prowess and post on uTub3? -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Martin McCormick Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:24 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The qu

Re: The quest for linux-oracle-instantclient-sqlplus

2009-06-05 Thread Martin McCormick
Michael Powell writes: > This is one of the worst I have seen to date. Click here: > > Copy to /usr/ports/distfiles/oracle/ directory. Good luck to you. It worked beautifully but there is the following dependency requiring yet another trip to the same well: I sure hope this is it. Due t

Re: phidgets for FreeBSD?

2009-06-05 Thread Ian Smith
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:07:53 +0300 Ghirai wrote: > Is there any (native) FreeBSD supoprt for Phidgets > (http://www.phidgets.com? > > Someone seems to have attempted (and succeeded) to run things on 7.0, > some time ago, but there doesn't seem to be any further info > (http://www.phidgets.co

offer laptop accessory Code:241

2009-06-05 Thread Bill luo
To: Purchase Dept I am very happy to know you from website http://www.freebsd.org that you are doing business of laptop parts. This is Bill from HongKong Flier Developers Co.,Limited, a reputed supplier of laptop battery. Besides replacement laptop battery, we also have a wide and stable source

D'oh! was Re: Named ignoring forward-only zones?

2009-06-05 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Thursday 04 June 2009 11:53:38 am Kirk Strauser wrote: > For some reason, BIND 9 (FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE) isn't properly forwarding > queries. Commenting out // zone "10.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "master/empty.db"; }; from named.conf fixed the problem. That's kind of... embarrassing

Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD

2009-06-05 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Thursday 04 June 2009 04:17:56 pm Chris Rees wrote: > Info is horrible to use as a quick reference, because as Polytropon > said earlier, you can't just dive in to get something specific. The > info is split into (arbitrary) sections, through which you have to > tread, and jump around hyper

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Reid Linnemann
Written by Steve Bertrand on 06/05/09 08:43>> >> Despite frustrations try to remember, it's not the tech support >> people's fault. They're just there 8-5 trying to make rent and pay for >> their kids dental. If you want to blame somebody, blame management. > > The tech support people do what they

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Bertrand
Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Steve Bertrand : > > [snip] > >> Disclaimer: I work as a network engineer at a small ISP. From time to >> time, I still have to answer the phone every once in a while >> (unfortunately). >> >> I do not like dealing directly with users. Most of them complain, bit

Re: Getting old versions of FreeBSD

2009-06-05 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Frederique Rijsdijk : > > For some 'issue' I have to install an old version FreeBSD: 4.7-p28. The > ISO of 4.7 I have found, but how to get to p28? That code is still in the version control system, all you need to do is configure cvsup to fetch it and rebuild your system. Instruct

Re: Getting old versions of FreeBSD

2009-06-05 Thread Valentin Bud
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk < frederi...@isafeelin.org> wrote: > Hi, > > For some 'issue' I have to install an old version FreeBSD: 4.7-p28. The > ISO of 4.7 I have found, but how to get to p28? > > > Thanks, > > -- Frederique > > _

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