Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-20 Thread PJ
An update on the problems of the boot sector disks. So far, I have not found any errors on the guilty disks from one computer... the Seagate Tools for checking their (& other) disks show no errors on the disks themselves. I haven't finished with them all, yet as I am trying to set up a couple of FB

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-14 Thread Michael Powell
Ian Smith wrote: [snip] > > Smells like flakey hardware .. intermittent, inexplicable glitches. It > might survive hours on one workload, minutes on another, no sense to it? > > > All that I am seeing is that there is either a problem with the bios > > (which I even reinstalled and that change

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:41:48 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > Smells like flakey hardware .. intermittent, inexplicable glitches. It > might survive hours on one workload, minutes on another, no sense to it? I could guess defective RAM here... I suggest running memtest for some hours, just to b

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, PJ wrote: > Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed > > Roland Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 03:54:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: > > > >> Well, I've been looking at the disk(s) and I have found some interesting > >> "sh

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:12:27PM -0400, PJ typed: > Ruben de Groot wrote: > > Hi PJ, > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: > > > >> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give > >> some insight on what is see from this end: > >> > > > > Yo

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Steve Bertrand
PJ wrote: > Ruben de Groot wrote: >> Hi PJ, >> >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: >> >>> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give >>> some insight on what is see from this end: >>> >> You probably won't get much helpfull response. When trou

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Neal Hogan
> Right now I'm just fixing up a new set up of 7.2 on another disk and > we'll see what that does. Then I will re-setup the files I had recoverd, > see if they work and then do a last and final install of everything and > see if that works. And if there is a problem then, then I will know for > sur

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:22:23 -0400, PJ wrote: > How about 7zip instead of gzip? does better compression, from what I > learned ??? Possible, but gzip is part of the OS, while 7zip needs to be installed manually. On a live system CD (FreeBSD, FreeSBIE) is is usually not present. Always keep in

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread PJ
Ruben de Groot wrote: > Hi PJ, > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: > >> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give >> some insight on what is see from this end: >> > > You probably won't get much helpfull response. When troubleshooting, it's

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Ruben de Groot
Hi PJ, On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: > I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give > some insight on what is see from this end: You probably won't get much helpfull response. When troubleshooting, it's allways best to try to break down the proble

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread PJ
> > For your systems that are running well, get an external harddisk that is at > least as big as the one in the machine. On my website I have explained how to > prepare this disk in somewhat greater detail: > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/index.html#usb > > Then use the dump(8) command to m

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:58:33PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> Roland Smith wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: >>> >>> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give some insight on what is see from

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:58:33PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: > > > >> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give > >> some insight on what is see from this end: > >> > >> Ok, I've had all night to (

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give >> some insight on what is see from this end: >> >> Ok, I've had all night to (subliminally) think about all this and >> actually, I am tending m

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: > I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give > some insight on what is see from this end: > > Ok, I've had all night to (subliminally) think about all this and > actually, I am tending more toward problems in FreeBSD.

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 03:54:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> Well, I've been looking at the disk(s) and I have found some interesting >> "shei**e" that doesn't make sense. >> 1. The fbsd minimal installation that I had set up for recovery of the >> previous crash does not boot.

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-13 Thread Michael Powell
Roland Smith wrote: [sni[p] > - Powersupply: check the voltages (preferably under load) with a > monitoring app like mbmon. If that's not possible, check in the BIOS. A > failing powersupply can give weird unreproducable errors. If you have > ever heard a popping noise from the machine it

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 03:54:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Well, I've been looking at the disk(s) and I have found some interesting > "shei**e" that doesn't make sense. > 1. The fbsd minimal installation that I had set up for recovery of the > previous crash does not boot... Now, why in Hades is that? I

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:34:49AM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> I'm actually at the stage of doing the save/copy/transfer or whatever >> you can call it: here's what I am thinking and on which I need >> clarification. >> I ran HDD regenerator and it immediately flagged the very fi

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:34:49AM -0400, PJ wrote: > I'm actually at the stage of doing the save/copy/transfer or whatever > you can call it: here's what I am thinking and on which I need > clarification. > I ran HDD regenerator and it immediately flagged the very first sector > as being Bad. Is

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread Ian Smith
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, PJ wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:29 +0200 Polytropon wrote: [..] > > > Let's assume ad0 is your source disk and ad1 the target disk. > > > > > > You can use the sysinstall tool to slice and partition the target > > > disk. You can create t

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread PJ
Ian Smith wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:29 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ > > wrote: > I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and > > I'm > wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? > > > > Maybe an 1:1 copy using d

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-12 Thread Ian Smith
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:29 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ > wrote: > I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and > I'm > wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? > > Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work. M

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:19:24PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:31:52 -0400, PJ wrote: > > Sorry for my ignorance, but what language is that? :-) What's "dd with > > a bs=1m"? > > That's English + UNIX, at least it should be. :-) > > I could have written "dd with a bs of 1

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:31:52 -0400, PJ wrote: > Sorry for my ignorance, but what language is that? :-) What's "dd with > a bs=1m"? That's English + UNIX, at least it should be. :-) I could have written "dd with a bs of 1m", which does simply mean that the program dd should be called with the pa

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread PJ
Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ wrote: > >> I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm >> wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? >> > > Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work. > Sorry for my ignorance, but wh

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:09:38 +0100, chris scott wrote: > Dumping is all very well and good. However if you want daily or hourly > backups etc it is very costly. Thats why our in house system at work is > based around rsync and zfs That's of course true. Another option is using cpdup from ports, e

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread chris scott
2009/8/11 Polytropon > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ wrote: > > I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm > > wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? > > Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work. > > > > > Would doing a minimum 7.2 insta

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ wrote: > I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm > wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work. > Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough, followed by copying all

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread PJ
Bill Moran wrote: > In response to PJ : > > >> I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed, >> configured & working fine with recovered files all working fine and just >> as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up >> kind-of hobbles and boots up. >> I am

Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Bill Moran
In response to PJ : > I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed, > configured & working fine with recovered files all working fine and just > as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up > kind-of hobbles and boots up. > I am called away from the computer

boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread PJ
I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed, configured & working fine with recovered files all working fine and just as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up kind-of hobbles and boots up. I am called away from the computer and when I return - goodie, goo