Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? *ROTFLMAO* that gave me the biggest laugh in a while... thanks :) -- Iain Buchanan That government is best which governs least. -- Henry David Thoreau, "Civil Disobedience" -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Emerge PEAR packages.

2006-01-20 Thread Pupeno
How are you supposed to emerge PEAR packages today ? After upgrading, portage wanted to install dev-lang/php, so I done it remove some blocking packages, including dev-php/php and dev-php/mod_php. Now emerging PEAR-XML_Parser or PEAR-DB wants to emerge dev-php/php back, what I am supposed to do ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts

2006-01-20 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (20/01/06 19:58), Dale wrote: > On Friday 20 January 2006 17:32, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:09:01 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > > > find -name '*' -exec fgrep -l \{\} \; > > > > > > This search all files for the search phrase. > > > > Using find with a separate call to

Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-20 Thread Dale
Chris White wrote: >On Friday 20 January 2006 18:10, Linux Java wrote: > > >>I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. >> >> > >That's the most blatant start of a flamewar I've seen... > >Ok, let's sit here and ponder. People like KDE, people like GNOME, hell, >people like fluxb

[gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-20 Thread Chris White
On Friday 20 January 2006 18:10, Linux Java wrote: > I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. That's the most blatant start of a flamewar I've seen... Ok, let's sit here and ponder. People like KDE, people like GNOME, hell, people like fluxbox and xfce. Now to put this in perspecti

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread b.n.
I'm just writing it for the sake of curiosity, so no flaming is here. Just because some answer sound quite "sarcastic", but that's just a style thing to get it short. :) Yes, but you then have bloat (because Konqueror contains web browsing features that you are not using, therefore the code is

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Linux Java
It's nice of you to give me so detailed explanation! I think I would like to use gnome for long time ^_^ Thank you very much On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 15:29 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Neil Bothwick schreef: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:10:13 +0800, Linux Java wrote: > >> I wanna to know KDE and Gno

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware Testing a PC

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Sanders
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:26:23 + Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try searching Freshmeat for "stress test", there are several programs to > put network, CPU, I/O etc. through their paces. There's also StressLinux, > a live CD containing a number of these programs. > emerge -uDNav st

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Rafael Fernández López
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Linux Java wrote: > I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. > I love KDE. It is fully customizable and its code is simply perfect. One thing that I love from KDE (that makes it less "fast") is that is written in C++, that has lot

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Sanders
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:44:19 +1000 "Alan E. Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > May I ask others' experiences with e17? I just wasted my holiday > installing e17 on two of three machines. It is smaller than Kde, but > background is 20% of cpu . Buggy. Beautiful. A PITA to configure, > and m

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Holly Bostick
b.n. schreef: >> I myself don't see it as "minimal fuss", not least because KDE >> makes so many choices for me in its "feature richness" that I have >> to spend two hours (I'm being kind) finding all the bloody options >> that I don't want and change them or turn them off or whatever. > > Sorr

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Friday 20 January 2006 06:40, a tiny voice compelled Kristian Poul Herkild to write: > Anthony Roy skrev: > >>I use KDE. I tried Gnome and didn't like it. Some people with > > > > Me too. I've given Gnome a try several times (the latest on a recent > > Ubuntu Live CD, and I just don't like th

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with CUPS

2006-01-20 Thread Manuel McLure
On Friday 20 January 2006 15:46, Statux wrote: > I, personally, refuse to use CUPS because I can't get it to do raw > text-only printing (ala my Oki Microline 320 Turbo). I use LPRng > instead :/ This is definitely possible with CUPS - just create a queue and select "Raw" for make and "Raw Queue"

Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts

2006-01-20 Thread Dale
On Friday 20 January 2006 17:32, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:09:01 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > > find -name '*' -exec fgrep -l \{\} \; > > > > This search all files for the search phrase. > > Using find with a separate call to grep for each seems a slow way to do > things.

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread b.n.
I myself don't see it as "minimal fuss", not least because KDE makes so many choices for me in its "feature richness" that I have to spend two hours (I'm being kind) finding all the bloody options that I don't want and change them or turn them off or whatever. Sorry, I simply can't understand w

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread b.n.
The bottom line on GUIs is ease of use. The tradeoff is flexibility and options. I have NEVER, EVER understood why dumbing down things means making them easy to use. That's a line of reasoning that gets me mad. Look, the "Advanced" tab/dialog/whatever is not exactly a new invention. m. -

Re: [gentoo-user] How To Set NIC? (Was: Rx Errors on NIC)

2006-01-20 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 1/19/2006 11:37 PM Rumen Yotov said the following: On (19/01/06 18:15), Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 12/29/2005 3:33 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote: I have a AMD Athlon 2800+ processor running on a Asus A7N8X Deluxe motherboard. This motherboard uses the Nvidia NForce2 chipset. It has both

Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package

2006-01-20 Thread Paul Varner
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 23:29 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Can you tell us what qpkg and etcat are deprecated, Paul? Is it because > of a lack of a maintainer or is there something fundamentally wrong with > them? In the case of qpkg, there are several un-fixable bugs. In the case of etcat, its co

Re: [gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:14:01 +0100 Paweł Madej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | for me it is used to make vim modular X compatible. Wha? No no no. If that flag is off, vim won't go anywhere near X. If that flag is on, vim will link against either modular or non-modular X. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocking weirdness

2006-01-20 Thread kashani
Michael Sullivan wrote: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] dev-lang/php (is blocking dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4) [ebuild N] dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4 +X +berkdb +crypt +curl -debug +doc -fdftk -firebird -flash -freetds +gd -gd-external +gdbm +gmp -hardenedphp +imap -informix -ipv6

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocking weirdness

2006-01-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 08:40 +0100, Heinz Sporn wrote: > Am Freitag, den 20.01.2006, 00:46 -0600 schrieb Michael Sullivan: > > What do you make of this? > > > > bullet ~ # emerge -pvuD world > > > > The new Gentoo-way to go for PHP is to use dev-lang/php. There's a nice > documentation on how to

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Holly Bostick
Abhay Kedia schreef: > On Friday 20 January 2006 19:59, Holly Bostick wrote: >> more comfortable with a more Windows-like environment, and >> Windows-like assumptions about what a user wants/needs from their >> desktop, KDE may be just the thing; that is, after all, what it's >> designed to do t

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Philip Webb
060121 Alan E. Davis wrote: > But one glaring deficiency keeps hitting me in the face > -- you can't do links with them. AFAIK Krusader can create links quite readily: look at its manual. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Phi

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 21 January 2006 00:44, Alan E. Davis wrote: > On 1/21/06, Mike Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > even go back to Afterstep or Enlightenment, but for now kde-3.5 works > > for me. > > May I ask others' experiences with e17? I just wasted my holiday > installing e17 on two of three mac

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Philip Webb
060120 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:51:40 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: >> I use the rather cute Apwal (in Portage) tied to the left mouse-button >> to get a pretty display of icons to start common apps, > Apwal looks rather neat. How did you tie it to the LMB in KDE? KDE Control Cent

Re: [gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Lithion
emerge app-portage/euses. This is a great app for searching for USE flag descriptions. On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:00 am, Tom Smith wrote: > I've been trying to determine what this particular USE flag does but > there doesn't seem to be a description of it anywhere (I also checked > gentoo-portage.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package

2006-01-20 Thread Robert Crawford
On Friday 20 January 2006 14:29, Paul Varner wrote: > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 19:15 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:30:57 -0500, Robert Crawford wrote: > > > I too like qpkg more than equery, at least for what I usually need to > > > do. My solution is just to put a copy of qpk

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with CUPS

2006-01-20 Thread Statux
I, personally, refuse to use CUPS because I can't get it to do raw text-only printing (ala my Oki Microline 320 Turbo). I use LPRng instead :/ Anyone with different results? On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 23:27 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:52:39 +, b.n. wrote: > > > > And can

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Alan E. Davis
On 1/21/06, Mike Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > even go back to Afterstep or Enlightenment, but for now kde-3.5 works > for me. > May I ask others' experiences with e17? I just wasted my holiday installing e17 on two of three machines. It is smaller than Kde, but background is 20% of cpu .

Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts

2006-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:09:01 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > find -name '*' -exec fgrep -l \{\} \; > > This search all files for the search phrase. Using find with a separate call to grep for each seems a slow way to do things. What's wrong with fgrep -r ? fgrep -lr 'search phrase' director

Re: [gentoo-user] python: stack smashing attack

2006-01-20 Thread Ryan Viljoen
> info outputhowever you are using distcc. So, are all of your > distcc hosts using the same version of gcc, or are any of them > "hardened"? I had a similar problem with distcc. Not a stack smashing attack though. Distcc should not be used to emerge any core packages such as python, portage

Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package

2006-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:29:12 -0600, Paul Varner wrote: > As the current maintainer of gentoolkit, please do what Neil said and > place it in /usr/local/bin and not /usr/bin Can you tell us what qpkg and etcat are deprecated, Paul? Is it because of a lack of a maintainer or is there something fund

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Christoph Eckert
> I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. I wanna know how interesting such a discussion is ;-))) . Please resist to develop a flame war from this topic. Better enjoy open source, regardless if it is KDE, Gnome, OSS, ALSA, OpenOffice.org or Koffice etc., simply enjoy the times we a

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with CUPS

2006-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:52:39 +, b.n. wrote: > > And can somebody explain the need to use http to set > > up a printer on one's own computer? Afterall PC > > *does* mean personal computer. I'm assuming that > > localhost:631 is on my own machine. But even so it > > seems a bit much. > > Becau

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:51:40 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > One can & I do configure KDE to be simple & unobtrusive: the panel is > hidden & has no app start-buttons & (of course) there are no desktop > icons. I use the rather cute Apwal (in Portage) tied to the left > mouse-button to get a pretty di

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Mike Owen
On 1/20/06, Linux Java <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. > > I used Gnome for years (5 or 6 maybe?), but have recently switched to kde-3.4 and then now kde-3.5. For me, I wanted to try something different, and it is a nice change. I may swap back ev

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Alexander Kirillov
and better integrated with other open source projects out there. That is not a quality of Gnome but GTK. Gnome uses GTK while KDE uses QT. Since (earlier) QT had a non-acceptable license for most of the developers of FLOSS, they chose GTK over QT. This lead to more and more applications being

Re: [gentoo-user] python: stack smashing attack

2006-01-20 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/20/06, El Nino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear my friends, > > i just try to issue '#emerge -e world' but it stoped by giving > following error... please help me to solve this problem. There are a few bug reports of "stack smashing" problems on bugs.gentoo.org, most seem to be related to us

Re: [gentoo-user] iptables question

2006-01-20 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
On Friday 20 January 2006 13:49, Trenton Adams wrote: > Under the *nat rule, > > -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 58443 -j DNAT --to > 192.168.7.1:443 > > Under the *filter rules. > > -A ADAMS-FW-INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp > --dport 443 -j ACCEPT I tried similar co

[gentoo-user] pptpconfig... missing config option?

2006-01-20 Thread Justin Hart
Hi, I am running pptpconfig to connect to my school VPN. After it "updates" resolv.conf, I see that I have no nameserver entries whatsoever! Ack! Are there config lines that are supposed to be in my peer file to specify my nameservers? -- Justin W. Hart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE? [OT]

2006-01-20 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 20 January 2006 22:02, Abhay Kedia wrote: > On Friday 20 January 2006 15:01, darren kirby wrote: > > Unscientific: > > Google for: > > "kde rules" --> 40,900 > > "kde sucks" --> 9,660 > > "gnome rules" --> 554 > > "gnome sucks" --> 10,500 > > > > Draw your own conclusions. > > ..or we cou

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: getting rid of gnome

2006-01-20 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Friday 20 January 2006 11:46, a tiny voice compelled Ryan Tandy to write: > A quick glance at my profile reveals the 'gstreamer' USE flag in > make.defaults. Be sure that you have that explicitly disabled in > make.conf before giving up. You know, I never checked that, although I found the sa

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE? [OT]

2006-01-20 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Friday 20 January 2006 15:01, darren kirby wrote: > > Unscientific: > Google for: > "kde rules" --> 40,900 > "kde sucks" --> 9,660 > "gnome rules" --> 554 > "gnome sucks" --> 10,500 > > Draw your own conclusions. ..or we could always use googlefight ;) http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=e

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables question

2006-01-20 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
On Friday 20 January 2006 13:41, James wrote: > #for unlimited traffic on the loopback interface > iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > iptables -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT since I've done my "flushing" all my rules are nice and permissive ;) dimon2 ~ # iptables -t filter -L Chain INPUT (policy ACCE

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Friday 20 January 2006 21:08, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > > and better integrated with other open source projects out there. > That is not a quality of Gnome but GTK. Gnome uses GTK while KDE uses QT. Since (earlier) QT had a non-acceptable license for most of the developers of FLOSS, they cho

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Friday 20 January 2006 19:59, Holly Bostick wrote: > more comfortable with a more Windows-like environment, and Windows-like > assumptions about what a user wants/needs from their desktop, KDE may be > just the thing; that is, after all, what it's designed to do to a great > extent. That stateme

Re: [gentoo-user] iptables question

2006-01-20 Thread Trenton Adams
Under the *nat rule, -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 58443 -j DNAT --to 192.168.7.1:443 Under the *filter rules. -A ADAMS-FW-INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT On 1/20/06, Dmitry S. Makovey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > somewhat offtopic, but si

[gentoo-user] Re: iptables question

2006-01-20 Thread James
Dmitry S. Makovey athabascau.ca> writes: > somewhat offtopic, but since I need any help I can get: > how do I redirect trafic from outward facing interface > (192.168.1.114:80) to loopback device (127.0.0.1:80) ? > my most obvious trick: > iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 192.168.1.114

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with CUPS

2006-01-20 Thread b.n.
And can somebody explain the need to use http to set up a printer on one's own computer? Afterall PC *does* mean personal computer. I'm assuming that localhost:631 is on my own machine. But even so it seems a bit much. Because you have the same interface to set up a printer on your, your neigh

[gentoo-user] iptables question

2006-01-20 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
somewhat offtopic, but since I need any help I can get: how do I redirect trafic from outward facing interface (192.168.1.114:80) to loopback device (127.0.0.1:80) ? my most obvious trick: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 192.168.1.114 --dport 80 \ -j DNAT --to 127.0.0.1:80 and

Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts

2006-01-20 Thread Dale
On Friday 20 January 2006 05:38, Dale wrote: > find -name '*' -exec fgrep -l \{\} \; Good call. The only one in my home directory is kppprc and mozilla's email stuff. I renamed kppprc and set up a new one, it still sends the wrong info. It does the same on all users: dale, dale2 and my new

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread El Nino
AybOwan! i'm too using KDE. it's nice... colorfull world... On 1/21/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 20 January 2006 15:37, Michael Sullivan wrote: > > > > > My wife and I use GNOME. KDE is too Windows-like for us. I can't stand > > Windows XP. I think it's the

[gentoo-user] python: stack smashing attack

2006-01-20 Thread El Nino
Dear my friends, i just try to issue '#emerge -e world' but it stoped by giving following error... please help me to solve this problem. #emerge info Gentoo Base System version 1.12.0_pre14 Portage 2.1_pre3-r1 (default-linux/x86/2005.0, gcc-3.4.5, glibc-2.3.6-r2, 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686) ==

Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package

2006-01-20 Thread Paul Varner
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 19:15 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:30:57 -0500, Robert Crawford wrote: > > > I too like qpkg more than equery, at least for what I usually need to > > do. My solution is just to put a copy of qpkg and ecat in /usr/bin, and > > make a backup copy somewh

Re: [gentoo-user] Java SDK 1.5

2006-01-20 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: > I was already reading the faq when i received your anser :) > > It seems this can be done, but not without certain risks. It's pretty safe if you keep blackdown-jdk-1.4 as the system vm (for building packages) and use jav

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with CUPS

2006-01-20 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 20 janvier à 17:55:17 maxim wexler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrit notamment: | And can somebody explain the need to use http to set | up a printer on one's own computer? Afterall PC | *does* mean personal computer. I'm assuming that | localhost:631 is on my own machine. But even so it | seems a bit

Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package

2006-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:30:57 -0500, Robert Crawford wrote: > I too like qpkg more than equery, at least for what I usually need to > do. My solution is just to put a copy of qpkg and ecat in /usr/bin, and > make a backup copy somewhere for when it's no longer available (in > gentoolkit, or a new g

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 20 January 2006 15:37, Michael Sullivan wrote: > > My wife and I use GNOME. KDE is too Windows-like for us. I can't stand > Windows XP. I think it's the most annoying OS I've ever attempted to > use... gnome is much more windows like than KDE. With KDE you have lots and lots of opti

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 20 January 2006 13:00, Paul wrote: > my findings with KDE is that its bloadware > if I wanted bloat , I'd run windows > > KDE is not bloated, it is feature complete, fully integrated (while gnome is a collection of third party applications) and while gnome takes away choices, KDE enab

Re: [gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (20/01/06 10:49), Tom Smith wrote: > Rumen Yotov wrote: > > >On (20/01/06 10:00), Tom Smith wrote: > > > > > >>I've been trying to determine what this particular USE flag does but > >>there doesn't seem to be a description of it anywhere (I also checked > >>gentoo-portage.com). > >> > >>Does

Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package

2006-01-20 Thread Robert Crawford
On Friday 20 January 2006 04:31, Catalin Grigoroscuta wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Catalin Grigoroscuta wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Thanks a lot for the replies, I managed to get qpkg working. > >> > >> However, it's very interesting that I asked for a way to achieve the > >> functionality of a deprecate

Re: [gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Holly Bostick
Tom Smith schreef: > Rumen Yotov wrote: >>> >> Hi, Two ways (i know) to see the USE-flag descriptions. 1.Run >> :#euse -i opengl ('euse' is part of app-portage/gentoolkit). >> 2.Use"#grep USE-flag-name /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc (or >> use.local.desc) use.desc - global USE flags, use.local.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package

2006-01-20 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
Dale wrote: Catalin Grigoroscuta wrote: This is an easy one :) equery l -p -o -i ppp Thanks. It wasn't quite what etcat does but it is a start. I got the info I needed anyway. Now to go put my nose in the manual for a bit. Dale :-) I know its not from the command line but porthole is

Re: [gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:49:36 -0700, Tom Smith wrote: > The first place I always look for USE flag descriptions is in > /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc--this particular flag isn't listed. Try usr/portage/profiles/use.* I have this in my bash profile alias useflag='grep --color -i /usr/portage/pro

Re: [gentoo-user] Java SDK 1.5

2006-01-20 Thread Rafael Barrera Oro
I was already reading the faq when i received your anser :) It seems this can be done, but not without certain risks. Thanks for the info On 1/20/06, Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Richard Fish wrote: > > On 1/20/06, Rafael Barrera Oro

Re: [gentoo-user] Java SDK 1.5

2006-01-20 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Fish wrote: > On 1/20/06, Rafael Barrera Oro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Does anyone know if Java SDK 1.5 (blackdown, sun, anyone) will be >> available soon through portage? > > It is available now, but you have to unmask it. If you do, you

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA Hardware vs Software RAID

2006-01-20 Thread brettholcomb
Based on your post to my other thread I've been looking at the drives you mentioned. What do you know about the WD Caviar drives? They are cheaper than the Raptors. > > From: Bill Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/01/20 Fri AM 09:52:01 EST > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject:

Re: [gentoo-user] Java SDK 1.5

2006-01-20 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/20/06, Rafael Barrera Oro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know if Java SDK 1.5 (blackdown, sun, anyone) will be > available soon through portage? It is available now, but you have to unmask it. If you do, you should rebuild all java packages on your system, or you may run into troub

[gentoo-user] prioritise outbound emails

2006-01-20 Thread El Nino
Dear friends, would anyone know how to prioritise outbound emails based on size/priority etc for sendmail/qmail/postfix ./? for an example, A rule that says schedule all emails larger than 2 MB to be sent duting 6-8pm -- ... "The future lies ahead." ___ < Have you mooed t

Re: [gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Tom Smith
Rumen Yotov wrote: >On (20/01/06 10:00), Tom Smith wrote: > > >>I've been trying to determine what this particular USE flag does but >>there doesn't seem to be a description of it anywhere (I also checked >>gentoo-portage.com). >> >>Does anyone know what this USE flag does or what additional >>f

Re: [gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Richard Sammet
take a look at: /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Link console vim against X11 libraries to enable title and clipboard features in xterm br richard Tom Smith wrote: > I've been trying to determine what this particular USE flag does but there doesn't seem to b

Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-20 Thread Phil Sexton
Michael A Smith wrote: Phil Sexton wrote: Felipe Ribeiro wrote: Where do I find the list with all installed packages? Cheers, Felipe The ones you emerged are listed in the file: /var/lib/portage/world Want it in alphabetical order? cat /var/lib/portage/world|less Isn't that a supe

[gentoo-user] Java SDK 1.5

2006-01-20 Thread Rafael Barrera Oro
Does anyone know if Java SDK 1.5 (blackdown, sun, anyone) will be available soon through portage? I am having troubles with the Java Web Start (applications are downloaded but no executed) and i am blaming the 1.4 release. Thanks in advance Rafael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (20/01/06 10:00), Tom Smith wrote: > I've been trying to determine what this particular USE flag does but > there doesn't seem to be a description of it anywhere (I also checked > gentoo-portage.com). > > Does anyone know what this USE flag does or what additional > functionality it enables in

Re: [gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Paweł Madej
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Smith wrote: > I've been trying to determine what this particular USE flag does but > there doesn't seem to be a description of it anywhere (I also checked > gentoo-portage.com). > > Does anyone know what this USE flag does or what additional > fu

[gentoo-user] OT - How to stop spamassassin marking mail from gentoo-user (and other mailing lists) as spam

2006-01-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
I set up spamassassin the other day. I've added a few of my own rules, targeted at the specific spam we usually get here. I've set up procmail to filter mail spamassassin has marked to a special spam filter to be later reviewed for legitimacy. I've added '140.105.134.' to the trusted_networks va

[gentoo-user] Re: OT - How to stop spamassassin marking mail from gentoo-user (and other mailing lists) as spam

2006-01-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 11:09 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: > I set up spamassassin the other day. I've added a few of my own rules, > targeted at the specific spam we usually get here. I've set up procmail > to filter mail spamassassin has marked to a special spam filter to be > later reviewed fo

[gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Tom Smith
I've been trying to determine what this particular USE flag does but there doesn't seem to be a description of it anywhere (I also checked gentoo-portage.com). Does anyone know what this USE flag does or what additional functionality it enables in vim? Thanks in advance for your help. -- gentoo-

[gentoo-user] trouble with CUPS

2006-01-20 Thread maxim wexler
Hello everybody, According to the Gentoo Printing Guide -> Installing the Printer, I'm to go to http://localhost:631 and then click on "Administration". Well, there's "Do Administrative Tasks", so I clicked on that. The guide says to "enter root login and password" into the box but the box only a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Philip Webb
060120 Linux Java wrote: > I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. This gets asked regularly in one form or another & the proper answer is that Gentoo gives you a real choice, so who cares ? KDE got a bad reputation a few years ago, partly due to bloat & sloth & originally because Qt

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: getting rid of gnome

2006-01-20 Thread Ryan Tandy
Ernie Schroder wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 12:39, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to write: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:30:52 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [nomerge ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.10 [nomerge ] media-libs/gs

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Ryan Viljoen
> my findings with KDE is that its bloadware > if I wanted bloat , I'd run windows > > Gnome-lite is just that , light > > > It serves my purposes fine and the menus are easy to edit to my liking. Ah! What gnome-lite is for gnome is what kdebase is for KDE. emerge kdebase doesnt install all the r

[gentoo-user] Re: How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread James
Linux Java gmail.com> writes: > I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. Well Hello Linux-Java, I'll attempt to give you some non-subjective reasons for KDE. Let me start out by saying, depending on what you are doing and what are your key applications, Gnome might be good for you

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Mozilla: Bug or problem with MY system

2006-01-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 15:35 +, Michael Kjorling wrote: > On 2006-01-20 09:03 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin: symbol lookup > > error: /usr/lib/mozilla/components/libgfx_gtk.so: undefined symbol: > > pango_x_font_map_for_display > > mozilla-bin exited with non-z

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Alexander Kirillov
I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. Linus recommends you use KDE. http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/desktop_architects/2005-December/000390.html I've been using KDE for years but switched to Gnome recently. Though I'm still using Kate. It's a matter of taste. Try them both. You

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Mozilla: Bug or problem with MY system

2006-01-20 Thread Michael Kjorling
On 2006-01-20 09:03 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin: symbol lookup > error: /usr/lib/mozilla/components/libgfx_gtk.so: undefined symbol: > pango_x_font_map_for_display > mozilla-bin exited with non-zero status (127) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ Have you tried a revdep-reb

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Shawn Singh
My wife and I use KDE. I, mainly because I don't see the point in having multiple GUIs (they're not that facinating to me (other than to get into the source code), but for my wife, I find that for someone coming from using Windows, it seems that out of the box, KDE seems to have a stronger appeal t

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:37:47 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: > My wife and I use GNOME. KDE is too Windows-like for us. I always thought Windows was rather KDE-like in some ways, but that's probably because I used KDE before windows. -- Neil Bothwick Any sufficiently advanced bug is indisting

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again....

2006-01-20 Thread Michael A. Smith
3.5 is still keyworded, iirc. If you remove kde from /etc/packages.keyword, it should install 3.4.3. This command will insert a "#" before each kde line. (It also makes a backup). sed -i.bak s/kde-/\#\ kde-/ /etc/portage/package.keywords KDE is slotted, and I'm not sure what happens when you

Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts

2006-01-20 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Dale wrote: > Can someone tell me where in the world this is stored? This is nuts. I > couldn't change ISPs even if I wanted to since it works this way. I > would have to reinstall looks like. That sounds like winders. > Try: find -name '*' -exec fgrep -l \{\} \; This search all files fo

[gentoo-user] OT - Mozilla: Bug or problem with MY system

2006-01-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
I upgraded to mozilla-1.7.12-r2 last night. Now when I try to start mozilla, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ mozilla No running windows found Type Manifest File: /usr/lib/mozilla/components/xpti.dat nsNativeComponentLoader: autoregistering begins. nsNativeComponentLoader: autoregistering succee

Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-20 Thread Michael A. Smith
Phil Sexton wrote: Felipe Ribeiro wrote: Where do I find the list with all installed packages? Cheers, Felipe The ones you emerged are listed in the file: /var/lib/portage/world Want it in alphabetical order? cat /var/lib/portage/world|less Isn't that a superfluous use of cat? Why no

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware Testing a PC

2006-01-20 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 20, 2006, at 8:47 AM, Midnight Toker wrote: Neil, Thank you, looks like this could be the thing i'm looking for. Midnightoker. me, too, just hadn't gotten around to asking :) On 20 Jan 2006, at 09:26, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:55:23 +, Midnight Toke

Re: [gentoo-user] problems removing a package

2006-01-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 08:47 -0500, Nick Smith wrote: > Ive been trying to install horde and it keeps saying: > > [blocks B ] dev-lang/php (is blocking dev-php/mod_php-4.4.0-r9) > [blocks B ] dev-lang/php (is blocking dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4) > > when i try to remove it i get: > > mail ~ # e

Re: [gentoo-user] SATA Hardware vs Software RAID

2006-01-20 Thread Bill Roberts
O 13:33 Thu 19 Jan , Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > I'm moving from SCSI to SATA and was wondering if anyone has any experience > with the speed of software RAID vs hardware RAID. I'm currently using > hardware RAID. > I've have two Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM 8MB Cache Serial

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware Testing a PC

2006-01-20 Thread Midnight Toker
Neil, Thank you, looks like this could be the thing i'm looking for. Midnightoker. On 20 Jan 2006, at 09:26, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:55:23 +, Midnight Toker wrote: I'm wondering if anyone can recommend software which will put a "PC" through a full series of t

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Kristian Poul Herkild
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:17:43 -0700, Richard Fish wrote > Linus recommends you use KDE. > > http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/desktop_architects/2005-December/000390.html > > -Richard > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Yup, and that's because he can't do what _he_ wants to. His complain

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 04:11 -0600, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > >On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:10:13 +0800, Linux Java wrote: > > > > > > > >>I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. > >> > >> > > > >Why? Use whatever suits you. > > > >If you want to use the most popular deskt

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Holly Bostick
Neil Bothwick schreef: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:10:13 +0800, Linux Java wrote: > >> I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. > > Why? Use whatever suits you. > I hope that you all appreciate my extreme restraint in not posting to this thread until now, given how very much I dislike

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again....

2006-01-20 Thread Ian
Thanks for the help!I want to get rid of 3.5 because of incompatabilities with my mouse (through ksynaptics)and themes. Ill probably install it again when 3.5.1 is out or something. :)Ian On 1/20/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/19/06, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> What I want, is

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