Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-14 Thread Henry Gebhardt
2008/2/14, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:17:03 +0100, Henry Gebhardt wrote: > > > It seems that ebuilds do change quite frequently without a revision > > bump. > > > > Does anyone know what the policy is on changing ebuilds like that? > > > http://devmanual.gentoo.or

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:17:03 +0100, Henry Gebhardt wrote: > It seems that ebuilds do change quite frequently without a revision > bump. > Does anyone know what the policy is on changing ebuilds like that? http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/ebuild-revisions/index.html "Ebuilds should h

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-14 Thread Henry Gebhardt
2008/2/14, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:58:03AM +0100, Penguin Lover Henry Gebhardt > squawked: > > > > Holy shit, what's going on? The ebuild in the portage tree is different > than > > the one in /var/db/pkg/. Is it normal to update an ebuild but not its > > rev

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-14 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Hi Willie, Thursday, February 14, 2008, 6:19:41 AM, you wrote: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:17:35AM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon > squawked: >> emerge -n pwdb > Actually, don't do that. Alan gave the right answer, but it seems that > my portage tree was just a few days out of date. flamee

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-14 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Hi Willie, Thursday, February 14, 2008, 6:14:44 AM, you wrote: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:58:03AM +0100, Penguin Lover Henry Gebhardt > squawked: >> > So, yes, pwdb is a runtime dependency. I don't actually run pam, so can't >> > confirm what would happen if I remove pwdb. >> > >> >> Holy shi

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:17:35AM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: > emerge -n pwdb Actually, don't do that. Alan gave the right answer, but it seems that my portage tree was just a few days out of date. flameeyes just removed the dependency for pwdb from pam. (See my other reply for

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:58:03AM +0100, Penguin Lover Henry Gebhardt squawked: > > So, yes, pwdb is a runtime dependency. I don't actually run pam, so can't > > confirm what would happen if I remove pwdb. > > > > Holy shit, what's going on? The ebuild in the portage tree is different than > the

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Hi Dale, Thursday, February 14, 2008, 3:10:09 AM, you wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: >> attr provides extended attributes to ext2/3 and XFS file systems, used by selinux and posix capabilities. If you use these features, you

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: attr provides extended attributes to ext2/3 and XFS file systems, used by selinux and posix capabilities. If you use these features, you already are aware of it. So, if I use reiserfs w/o ext attrs (option in ker

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Henry Gebhardt
2008/2/13, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:03:42PM +0100, Henry Gebhardt wrote: > > Where does equery get that from? emerge -e pam doesn't show pwdb as a > > dependency. In fact, the ebuild checks whether you are using the > pam_pwdb > > module, and if you do, warns

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Brian Marshall
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:34:21 +0200 Sergey Kobzar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan, thanks again :) > > Last question. How can I update selected packages correctly? Before I > used 'emerge -uDN ' command, but it adds package to the > world class, which is IMHO is not fully correct. > Use --onesh

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Alan, thanks again :) Last question. How can I update selected packages correctly? Before I used 'emerge -uDN ' command, but it adds package to the world class, which is IMHO is not fully correct. To update whole system, I must use 'emerge -uDN world', right? Thursday, February 14, 2008, 1:17:3

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 14 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: > Hi Willie, > > So, I can unmerge hashalot and attr safely. > > How can I add pwdb to the system (or maybe world is more correct) > class? emerge -n pwdb It won't recompile pwdb in your case as you already have it, so it will just add it to wor

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: > > Thanks, Alan! > > > > Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 7:00:51 PM, you wrote: > > > On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: > > >> > attr provides extended attributes to ext2/3 and XFS file

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Hi Willie, So, I can unmerge hashalot and attr safely. How can I add pwdb to the system (or maybe world is more correct) class? Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 11:22:54 PM, you wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:03:42PM +0100, Henry Gebhardt wrote: >> Where does equery get that from? emerge -e

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Hi Mick, Thursday, February 14, 2008, 12:22:20 AM, you wrote: > On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Mick wrote: >> On Wednesday 13 February 2008, you wrote: >> > Hi Mick, >> > >> > Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 9:14:31 PM, you wrote: >> > > # equery depends attr >> > > [ Searching for packages dependi

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 13 February 2008, you wrote: > > Hi Mick, > > > > Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 9:14:31 PM, you wrote: > > > # equery depends attr > > > [ Searching for packages depending on attr... ] > > > sys-apps/acl-2.2.45 (>=sys-apps/attr-2.4) > > > sy

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:03:42PM +0100, Henry Gebhardt wrote: > Where does equery get that from? emerge -e pam doesn't show pwdb as a > dependency. In fact, the ebuild checks whether you are using the pam_pwdb > module, and if you do, warns you about it. I for my part just removed pwdb, > and I c

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:53:29PM +0200, Sergey Kobzar wrote: > > Not so fast. Check to see if you do have the xattr flag enabled. > > In the kernel config probably? No, I mean the USE variable. > > The entry for attr is a conditional dependency: you don't need it if > > you don't have the xa

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Henry Gebhardt
> > # equery depends pwdb > > [ Searching for packages depending on pwdb... ] > > sys-libs/pam-0.99.9.0 (sys-libs/pwdb) Where does equery get that from? emerge -e pam doesn't show pwdb as a dependency. In fact, the ebuild checks whether you are using the pam_pwdb module, and if you do, warns you

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Hi Willie, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 10:36:01 PM, you wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:25:23PM +0200, Sergey Kobzar wrote: >> # cat /etc/make.conf | grep USE >> USE="-X -acl -gpm -ipv6 -tcpd" >> >> # equery depends attr >> [ Searching for packages depending on attr... ] >> sys-apps/coreut

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:25:23PM +0200, Sergey Kobzar wrote: > # cat /etc/make.conf | grep USE > USE="-X -acl -gpm -ipv6 -tcpd" > > # equery depends attr > [ Searching for packages depending on attr... ] > sys-apps/coreutils-6.9-r1 (xattr? sys-apps/attr) > > # equery depends pwdb > [ Searching

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Hi Mick, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 9:14:31 PM, you wrote: > # equery depends attr > [ Searching for packages depending on attr... ] > sys-apps/acl-2.2.45 (>=sys-apps/attr-2.4) > sys-apps/coreutils-6.9-r1 (acl? sys-apps/attr) > YMMV. Hm... on my server: # cat /etc/make.conf | grep USE USE=

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: > Thanks, Alan! > > Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 7:00:51 PM, you wrote: > > On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: > >> > attr provides extended attributes to ext2/3 and XFS file systems, > >> > used by selinux and posix capabilities

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Thanks, Alan! Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 7:00:51 PM, you wrote: > On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: >> > attr provides extended attributes to ext2/3 and XFS file systems, >> > used by selinux and posix capabilities. If you use these features, >> > you already are aware of it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: > > attr provides extended attributes to ext2/3 and XFS file systems, > > used by selinux and posix capabilities. If you use these features, > > you already are aware of it. > > So, if I use reiserfs w/o ext attrs (option in kernel), I don't need

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Hi Alan, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 6:22:33 PM, you wrote: > On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: >> Hi >> >> 'emerge -pv --depclean' shows that these packages may be unmerged: > >> app-crypt/hashalot >> sys-libs/pwdb >> sys-apps/attr >> >> Is it safe to remove they from the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: > Hi > > 'emerge -pv --depclean' shows that these packages may be unmerged: > app-crypt/hashalot > sys-libs/pwdb > sys-apps/attr > > Is it safe to remove they from the system? This is mail server and > has mostly no additional packages except

[gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Hi 'emerge -pv --depclean' shows that these packages may be unmerged: >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: app-crypt/hashalot selected: 0.3-r2 protected: none omitted: none sys-libs/pwdb selected: 0.62 protected: none omitted: none sys-apps/attr sel