Has anyone else noticed that Ant build scripts run in Eclipse 3.0 don't
terminate. After running scripts, the debug perspective shows them all
as running even though they have completed executing all the tasks. I
have to manually end them so I don't eventually run out of memory.
Is there some p
Just to add to the Product Demos topic.
In the past, it has been quite difficult to find speakers in advance (often it's not
until a week or two before the meeting that someone comes out of the woodwork). Over
the past year and a half, I can't recall a time when we have had a choice between a
I forgot to mention that Rob Gingell will also be bringing a box of giveaways.
Simon.
>If it helps increase attendance, I received a box of about 20 T-shirts from >our
>giveaway closet this morning, so there'll be giveaways of some sort at >the meeting.
>Wasn't sure I was going to get anything
This is the second attempt to send this message. Sorry if I end up double posting.
We've had a change in the schedule for this month's presentation.
Warner and Cia are unable to do the presentation, so Drew has kindly moved his
presntation on OGNL from April to March.
To Tuesday's meeting will
Ok Ollie, consider yourself signed up.
Great, we have the next two months of speakers organized.
Thanks everyone.
Simon.
Ollie wrote:
I would ike to do Jakarta slide for April mini
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Drew,
I think we have March all organized for speakers. As Warner mentioned,
Rob Gingel will be doing the 15min topic on the latest hapennings with
the JCP and Warner/Cia will be doing their Usability presentation.
April is available, though. And since there seems to be plenty of
interest, con
Great. That's the sequence then:
1. Nick - Mock Objects using Aspect (1hr)
2. Chad - Bytecode manipulation as related to Aspect (15min)
3. Andrew - BCEL (15min)
Sounds like a great line-up. See you there tomorrow night.
Simon.
Nicholas Lesiecki wrote:
Re:
3. Nick - Mock
We can set up web access.
Simon.
Chad Woolley wrote:
I just wrote up a presentation for this - so I can probably do a full
15 minutes now.
Questions:
- Can I borrow one of the existing presenter's laptops? I have it in
powerpoint, and html format from powerpoint.
- If so, what media do I n
work with Virtual Mock objects.
This would be an interesting session, with three different topics that
are tied to the same themes.
Thanks,
Chad
Andrew Huntwork wrote:
i would like to do a 15 min presentation on "Java Bytecode
Inspection, Manipulation, and Generation Using BCEL".
The next meeting is Tuesday Feb 10 from 7:00pm to 9:00pm at Arizona Mail
Order.
See http://www.tucson-jug.org/ for directions.
Simon.
Randolph Kahle wrote:
Cool.
When / where is the next meeting?
Regards,
Randy
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Sorry about the late notice.
For this month's meeting, Nick Lesiecki will be doing a presentation on
"Testing with Virtual Mock Objects" (it involves AspectJ).
Any volunteers for a 15 min presentation would be welcome.
Simon.
Hi all,
Just to clarify, tonight's JUG meeting at AMO has been cancelled. Our
presenter got the flu and was unable to prepare a presentation.
Simon.
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It looks like we're going to have a problem with this month's presentation.
Eddie Dimond was scheduled to speak on the topic of Jasper Reporting.
Unfortunately, he has got the flu and has not been able to get the
presentation together. Unless someone can step in and do a presentation,
we won't
The topics scheduled for the December 9 presentation will be:
Short topic - Using the Sysdeo Tomcat plugin for Eclipse - Eddie Dimond
The Sysdeo plugin allows Tomcat to be stopped and started from Eclipse.
It allows debugging of code running in Tomcat and much more
(http://www.sysdeo.com/eclips
There are no problems with access to AMO. Unfortunately, it's not a
holiday for us.
Simon.
William H. Mitchell wrote:
A meeting next Tuesday would be fine for me.
Are there any issues with access at AMO?
p.s.
What's a "holiday"?
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Ok, even though the presentation itself might not take that long,
perhaps we can spend the remainer of the meeting discussing Struts and
Velocity. It seems as though we have people with plenty of Struts
experience in our group.
Simon.
Warner Onstine wrote:
Just want to say that I'm looking fo
Tim,
It doesn't look like we've had too many volunteers for presentations. I
guess we can either go with your Velocity + Struts presentation or skip
the meeting. How long is your presentation?
Simon.
Tim Colson wrote:
Howdy Folks -
The traffic on the list and attendance at the meetings for
It's approaching the time for the next meeting and we're still in need
of presenters.
Tim had volunteered to talk about HSQLDB at some point and I know he
still has a presentation on Struts. But since he spoke last month, it
would be nice to give someone else the opportunity to speak.
If anyon
Thanks Eddie and Tim for your presentations. You both did a great job.
As Tim mentioned, we didn't get to his Velocity Tools presentation, so
we'll have him do it next month.
We're always on the look out for people wanting to speak at the meeting,
and we don't have anything else lined up for ne
Eddie said he can speak for about half an hour. How long do you think
you will speak for Tim?
There will be at least three of us attending from AMO.
Simon.
Warner Onstine wrote:
It sounds like it will be a short meeting. How about 7-8 instead?
I plan on attending btw ;-).
-warner
On Tuesday
Thanks Tim for volunteering for July.
We still haven't had any offers for the main presentation for June.
Eddie will probably be able to speak for about half an hour on
JFreeChart, so if we had another presentation of about the same length,
it might work out.
Perhaps someone has a topic they'r
The next meeting on April 8, will feature two interesting speakers:
Dennis Sosnoski and Rob Gingell. The meeting will be held in the large
conference room at Arizona Mail Order. Here are the presentation topics:
Short Presentation
The short presentation will be from Dennis Sosnoski. He will be
ouble Tree.
Simon.
Simon Ritchie wrote:
Unfortunately, our main presenter has had an emergency and has been
forced to cancel tonight's presentation.
She has offered to do the presentation again in May, but unless
someone has a presentation ready, we are left with a couple of
alternatives:
Unfortunately, our main presenter has had an emergency and has been
forced to cancel tonight's presentation.
She has offered to do the presentation again in May, but unless someone
has a presentation ready, we are left with a couple of alternatives:
1. We have the first Tucson JUG Happy Hour at
A little bit more information on this month's main presentation:
Topic: The Five Essential Criteria Users Care About
Presenter: Cia Romano, CEO and Founder, Interface Guru?
Usability evangelist Cia Romano, supported by video of live user tests,
presents the five criteria most sought by Web user
+1 for TJUG green gecko diagonal by Tim Colson
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Tuesday's meeting features Molly Holzschlag (http://www.molly.com), a
national speaker on Web standards, who will be speaking to us in a
mixture of presentation and Q & A (not too different from what we've
done in the past) on Web Standards including the shift from HTML to XML.
Some of the topi
Simon - howabout we just let Warner have the floor for the entire time
to talk Persistence layer stuff?
Good idea. I don't want a public lynching.
- Drew
I think we'll let Warner speak for the entire presentation. It sounds
like he has a lot of material. Besides, the security guards wo
Happy New Year everyone,
The first meeting of the year will be on January 14th (next Tuesday).
Warner will be doing his long-awaited presentation on Object/Relational
Tools. Warner may want to clarify it some more, but if I remember
correctly, this will be a survey of open source O/R products
The Eclipse wiki has some useful links. I think this is what you're
looking for:
http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/145
Unfortunately, I don't think the open source GUI Builder projects have
advanced very far yet.
Simon.
Anthony Steckman wrote:
Well, after a year or more of reading the occasional
We haven't had any volunteers for the presentation, so tonight we'll
have Tim's presentation on Thinlets and then open up the meeting for
general discussion. If anyone else has a 15min topic they could talk
about at a moments notice, we could include that too.
We could discuss any topic(s), but
Well, unfortunately we have an upset to the schedule. Warner will not be
able to do the presentation tommorrow night.
We still have Tim doing a 15min presentation on Thinlets, but we need to
think of something to fill the long presentation time slot.
Here are some possiblities:
1. We twist Tim'
Art Gramlich wrote:
Have you saved a file an gotten a null pointer dialog? Happened a lot with
ant xml files. Still, I think for a non-critical use its fine, and like I
said as it nears release this is going to be the killer IDE.
Art
Thanks for the warning. I haven't seen that one yet.
Sim
Art Gramlich wrote:
I was going to talk to you today. It's still really buggy and I've gone
back to 2.0.1 for now. 2.1 is going to be fantastic when it's more stable.
Art
What bugs did you find? I've been using M3 for a couple of days and
haven't noticed anything major yet.
I did notice I
Jon Thomas wrote:
the troublemaker. Lest I be accused of never discussing java here let me
say that I installed the eclipse beta today and like it already.
Me too.
There are some great enhancements. Maybe with the new AntView plugin,
even Erik will be assimilated. ;)
Simon.
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Yes, we do have several conference rooms.
We used to meet in a larger room that could easily fit a hundred or more
people. But it seemed too large for our group which seems to reach a
maximum of about 25 people.
We then moved to the next smallest space. That was directly across from
where we h
Mike Oliver wrote:
s/+1/+2/g
Mike, how come you get two votes? Are their two or you? Split
personality perhaps?
Simon.
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Warner Onstine wrote:
A, someone from Sun on the list (hides head in shame ;-).
Actually, not just someone from Sun. Rob is the Chairman of the JCP (sm).
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Tim,
That's great. You're on the list then.
So far, then, for the December presentation we have:
Short presentation- Tim speaking on Thinlets
Long presentation- Warner speaking on O/R Tools
If we get more suggestions we'll have a vote.
Simon.
Tim Colson wrote:
Simon -
We still need a go
A presentation on O/R Tools sounds great. I have quite an interest in
the subject since we wrote one at AMO.
I don't have anything lined up for the December presentation, so this
sounds fantastic.
We still need a good supply of 15 min presenters though, so don't
hesitate to volunteer if you th
Heat is difficult. It would take a lot to get our systems manager to
raise the temperature of that room. And he would demand payment in
Guinness. :)
Simon.
Tim Colson wrote:
plus I'm still waiting to hear about my "Membership" proposal ;-).
If membership fees enable more heat and snacks
In anticipation of the Tuesday presentation on SWT, here's a message to a mailing list posted by Alan Williamson, the editor of Java Developers Journal. The message he quotes is from a source within IBM. It's an interesting look at the inside politics of Swing and SWT.
Simon.
Subject: [ST-J] SWT
Randolph S. Kahle wrote:
When is the next meeting?
The next meeting is Tuesday, November 12th
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Warner Onstine wrote:
Aren't all SWT widgets native (no matter the platform)? This was my
impression initially, especially in respect to why it took so long to
port it to OS X.
-warner
Yes, they are. SWT consists of some standard java code and also some JNI
native code. The native code is w
Sorry, I forgot to include the e-mail address.
Jacin Steele's e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] His phone
number is (520) 790-0279
Simon.
Simon Ritchie wrote:
I received this e-mail from Jacin Steele regarding the job opportunity
that Nelan metioned in yesterday's email. I ha
Neelan Choski from Solar Metric has posted the slides from the Tucson
JUG JDO presentation at the following URL:
http://www.solarmetric.com/News_and_Events/Events/index.php#PastEvents
Simon.
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I received this e-mail from Jacin Steele regarding the job opportunity
that Nelan metioned in yesterday's email. I has a little bit more
information.
Simon.
Hello Simon,
Neelan said that you would be a good person to help find Java developers in the Tucson or Phoenix areas. I have an immediate
Tim Colson wrote:
>I've played with it - mostly based on the following article that I
>thought was a great introduction.
>http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/Programming/jnlp/
>Short followup here for 1.2 features:
>http://java.sun.com/features/2002/10/webstart.html
>
>Is S
The October 8 meeting will feature the following presentations:
1. A 15min presentation from Art Dyer of NewMonics on their PERC Shell
application. (http://www.newmonics.com/)
2. A presentation from SolarMetrics on Java Data Objects (JDO)
(http://www.solarmetric.com/)
Simon.
I haven't ever found a way of doing exactly what you want to do, but
there are some things I've run across that might help.
In Eclipse, if you export your project to a jar file, there is a way to
save all of your jar export selections in an XML file. So if you
selected all the projects, packag
Two of my favorites:
1. Ctrl-/ will comment selected text. Ctrl-\ will uncomment selected text.
2. F3 is your friend:
In the editor
Select a variable by double clicking on the variable. Press F3 will
take you to the declaration of the variable.
Select a class and press F3 and the cl
Chris,
Thanks for the reply. I pretty much got the internals of my application
running with Apache SOAP and then after reading the recommendations of
others, I moved it over to Axis. Axis is still in beta 3 and when you
start to look at it closely it does seem less mature than Apache SOAP.
I
Has anyone tried using Apache SOAP?
I've started looking at it for use in a project and I'm interested in
opinions.
Simon.
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Thanks Rene,
This sounds like a great topic. I won't have to subject anyone to the
slides of my trip to Yuma.
So unless we have any objections, it looks like TR will be doing a 15min
presentation on environment variables and Rene will be doing the 1 hour
presentation on FOP.
Also, the meetin
Randy,
That'd be great if you can. Otherwise I'll have to show the slides from
my last trip to Yuma or something.
Simon.
Randolph S. Kahle wrote:
>I will be in town, but I'm not sure I can get a presentation together.
>I'll think about it and get back to you.
>
>Randy
>
>
Well, since we had one vote for Jikes and one vote for environment
variables. I made an executive decision with the aid of the code below
and chose environment variables. We could, perhaps, have Jikes next month.
The following code generates a cryptographic strength random number
between 0 and
Fantastic.
If anyone else has an opinion on which of these two presentations they
would prefer then let us know.
Now if we can only make sure Rick doesn't leave town we're set. I guess
he might be rekeying source code for a while so he's not going anywhere :-)
Simon.
Terence Rudkin wrote:
>
Lesiecki Nicholas wrote:
>Thank you Jon, Vince, and Simon for replying so promptly! I
>am sure that's my problem. Now, does anyone know why
>synching with my repository resulted in every single file
>in my project having an "outgoing change"?
>
>
How did you create the project?
Normally, if th
Nick,
Make sure you have selected the Java Perspective. I'm guessing you're in
the Resource Perspective. Use Window->Open Perspective->Other.. and
select Java. (Alternatively click the icon on the top left immediately below
the toolbar that looks like a spreadsheet with a + symbol, and choose
We're interested. Where do you plan to put it?
Simon.
Warner Onstine wrote:
> The difference is that mine is all put together, the one that you
> download you still have to download different pieces and put them
> together. Not as difficult as it was originally, but about 20-30
> minutes wor
We're interested. What is different about your gzip compared to the one
that Andre made available?
I assume the CVS client works OK since they're self hosting on it now.
We'd like to get our HTML developer using Eclipse if for nothing else
but the built in CVS client.
Simon.
Warner Onstine w
Thomas Hicks wrote:
>
> Ah...now comes the learning curve.
Since there seem to be a number of people trying out Eclipse right now.
I thought it might be useful to post some of the preference settings I
use. There are quite a lot of preferences and they can really alter the
look and behaviou
Thomas Hicks wrote:
> On that topic, would anyone like to suggest
> their favorite Eclipse resource sites that might help beginners?
Thomas,
Can't help on the Linux questions, but here are some good sites to look at:
The Eclipse home page (http://www.eclipse.org/) actually contains a lot
of
While we're all hassling Eric, has anyone else noticed the following on
the Manning Publications page for Eric's upcoming book
(http://www.manning.com/hatcher/index.html):
What The Experts Say About This Book
"If you are using Ant, get this book"
--Rick Hightower
"This book earned
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