Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > [snip lengthy Puff tMD discussion] > > Well, for what it's worth, I just called a friend of mine who knew > Peter Yarrow while growing up, and although she has never asked him, I > have requested that she do so if she speaks to him. > > dave, getting

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread David H. Adler
[snip lengthy Puff tMD discussion] Well, for what it's worth, I just called a friend of mine who knew Peter Yarrow while growing up, and although she has never asked him, I have requested that she do so if she speaks to him. dave, getting this settled. -- David H. Adler - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Robin Houston wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:25:26PM +, Aaron Trevena wrote: > > > > ingestion has several downsides - lack of control of dosage (assuming you > > eat it at a significant lump at a time), longer effects, stronger > > effects (making it hard to get do

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:25:26PM +, Aaron Trevena wrote: > > ingestion has several downsides - lack of control of dosage (assuming you > eat it at a significant lump at a time), longer effects, stronger > effects (making it hard to get dosage right) and also slow absorbtion. Though all of

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Redvers Davies wrote: > > I thought it was about 'chasing the dragon' - ie heating a resinous > > substance on tinfoil with a lighter and inhaling the fumes, this is > > probably less bad for you than smoking stuff in a cigarette form. Although > > hookah pipes with resin are

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Redvers Davies
> I thought it was about 'chasing the dragon' - ie heating a resinous > substance on tinfoil with a lighter and inhaling the fumes, this is > probably less bad for you than smoking stuff in a cigarette form. Although > hookah pipes with resin are probably healthier still. Myself and a couple of f

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Aaron Trevena
> > On a tangentially related point - I've just overheard someone in the > office mention the rumour that "Puff, the magic dragon" was "written > by someone who was smoking a joint". I guess I'm just surprised that > there are people to whom this fact isn't obvious. I thought it was about 'chas

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Robert Shiels
- Original Message - From: "Dave Cross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 17 January 2001 11:14 Subject: Re: PIMB T-shirts > At 17 Jan 2001 10:09:29 +, Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Puff the Magic Dragon] >

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On a tangentially related point - I've just overheard someone in the > > > office mention the rumour that "Puff, the magic dragon" was "written > > > by someone who was smoking a joint". I guess I'm

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 06:14:27AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > Which I'd be happy to read in detail if it wasn't for the fscking midi > of the tune blasting out and letting everyone in the office know > exactly what I'm doing. > > Dave... > [who wishes that Netscape had a "no multimedia at all.

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Dave Cross
At 17 Jan 2001 10:09:29 +, Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [Puff the Magic Dragon] > Snopes has this to say: > > http://www.snopes2.com/music/songs/puff.htm Which I'd be happy to read in detail if it wasn't for the fscking midi of the tune blasting out and letting everyone in th

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:17:29 + (GMT), Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Quite frankly I'd rather not piss of O'Reilly. IMHO they're a nice > > company that do nice things and the legality of the issue really has > > nothing to do with it.

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On a tangentially related point - I've just overheard someone in the > > office mention the rumour that "Puff, the magic dragon" was "written > > by someone who was smoking a joint". I guess I'm just surprised that > > there are people to whom thi

RE: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Jonathan Peterson
> On a tangentially related point - I've just overheard someone in the > office mention the rumour that "Puff, the magic dragon" was "written > by someone who was smoking a joint". I guess I'm just surprised that > there are people to whom this fact isn't obvious. It's not obvious! I listened to

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:17:29 + (GMT), Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quite frankly I'd rather not piss of O'Reilly. IMHO they're a nice > company that do nice things and the legality of the issue really has > nothing to do with it. I think this is a _very_ good point. On a tangen

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > discussion about legal aspects re using a camel smoking a joint > >on a t-shirt. > > If these are private individuals selling t-shirts, may I suggest just > omitting the word 'perl' from anywhere on the t-shirt. Then O'Reilly's > trademark iss

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Mark Fowler
> discussion about legal aspects re using a camel smoking a joint >on a t-shirt. If these are private individuals selling t-shirts, may I suggest just omitting the word 'perl' from anywhere on the t-shirt. Then O'Reilly's trademark issues don't even come into effect (See page 'iv' of Pro

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-17 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > people just seem to > want *nix boxen configured these days :-/ > sounds like the start of a song -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-16 Thread Mark Rogaski
An entity claiming to be Alex Page ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : : IANAL, but AFAIK parody is protected under trademark law, as long as you're not :making profit (I presume beer money for the hassle of T-shirt making is excusable). : Parody is protected under copyright law (fair use), not trade

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-16 Thread Paul Makepeace
From: "Matthew Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cripes, just remembered, I owe paulm UKP10 for the PIMB one! Next time I see > you, paul. A different paulm? I haven't made any Ts yet (except for yapc::Europe) but have offered since I can get 'em cheap(ish). > How about some Tees with some of that th

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-16 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, you wrote: > >however, having said that, still like the # , ! , perl one ;-) > > that ought to be > > > |\/| > | \__/ | > |______| > \

Re: trade mark parody (Re: PIMB T-shirts)

2001-01-16 Thread Alex Page
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:43:00PM +, Robin Houston wrote: > Don't we have someone here who *is* a lawyer? :-) More to the point, don't we have someone who could drop a mail to one of the happy bunnies at O'Rielly and ask them nicely not to sue us? Alex

trade mark parody (Re: PIMB T-shirts)

2001-01-16 Thread Robin Houston
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:09:55AM -0500, Alex Page wrote: > IANAL, but AFAIK parody is protected under trademark law, as long as > you're not making profit (I presume beer money for the hassle of > T-shirt making is excusable). IANAL either, but I think it's quite complicated. "More interesting

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-16 Thread Shevek
It's been done. But go for it. http://www.uiowa.edu/~commstud/adclass/camel/images/motorcycle.jpg (http://www.uiowa.edu/~commstud/adclass/camel/JoeCool.html) S. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Alex Page wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:59:44PM +, Redvers Davies wrote: > > > There is a temptation

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-16 Thread Neil Ford
>* Marcel Grunauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >> Greg McCarroll writes: >> >> >Apparently Amsterdam.pm are looking for a design for YAPC::Europe 2001 ;-) >> > >> >however, having said that, still like the # , ! , perl one ;-) >> >> that ought to be >> >> _

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-16 Thread Alex Page
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:59:44PM +, Redvers Davies wrote: > There is a temptation to insert a joint into the mouth of the "Republic of > Perl" camel. Of course this would never happen[1]. > [1] Something tells me that would have to be a trademark thing that O'Reilly > would protect. IANA

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-16 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
"David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 11:37:57AM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > > David Hodgkinson wrote: > > > > > Can I reserve 2 to go to the States? I guess I should enquire about > > > sizes... > > > > Sure, no problem. > > Shall I enquire at NY.pm tomorrow

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-16 Thread Alex Page
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:32:47PM +, Marcel Grunauer wrote: > How about "Smoking Perl" for Amsterdam? "YAPC::Europe::Amsterdam - A Week-Long Hashref" Alex

RE: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-16 Thread Matthew Jones
[ hash bang perl ] >(i'll have an XXL simon) I'll have a medium, Simon. Cripes, just remembered, I owe paulm UKP10 for the PIMB one! Next time I see you, paul. How about some Tees with some of that thar Perl poetry that some of you Real Programmers write? Hm? -- matt I blame the drugs

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 06:04:42PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > "David H. Adler" wrote: > > > Shall I enquire at NY.pm tomorrow about demand? > > Yup. Might eb up for doing anohter run if necessary. > > Plus I have some other ideas. I think this is one of those instances were discretion is the

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "David H. Adler" wrote: > > > Shall I enquire at NY.pm tomorrow about demand? > > Yup. Might eb up for doing anohter run if necessary. > > Plus I have some other ideas. Apparently Amsterdam.pm are looking for a design for YAPC::Europe 2001 ;-) howev

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
"David H. Adler" wrote: > Shall I enquire at NY.pm tomorrow about demand? Yup. Might eb up for doing anohter run if necessary. Plus I have some other ideas.

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 11:37:57AM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > David Hodgkinson wrote: > > > Can I reserve 2 to go to the States? I guess I should enquire about > > sizes... > > Sure, no problem. Shall I enquire at NY.pm tomorrow about demand? -- David H. Adler - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http:/

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread David Hodgkinson
Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Hodgkinson wrote: > > > Can I reserve 2 to go to the States? I guess I should enquire about > > sizes... > > Sure, no problem. > > You coming to the Technical Meeting on Thursday? Yes. Probably. -- Dave Hodgkinson,

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 10:58:36AM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > Sorry they never got over to the states ... I checked with the Post > oFfice and the cost was going to be ridiculous to send them Data Post or > whatever it's called. And because of (and here I quote the guy behind > the counter when

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
David Hodgkinson wrote: > Can I reserve 2 to go to the States? I guess I should enquire about > sizes... Sure, no problem. You coming to the Technical Meeting on Thursday?

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread David Hodgkinson
Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Hodgkinson wrote: > > > Are there any of these left? > > Yeah, I've got about 10 or so left I think. Can I reserve 2 to go to the States? I guess I should enquire about sizes... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodg

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
David Hodgkinson wrote: > Are there any of these left? Yeah, I've got about 10 or so left I think. Sorry they never got over to the states ... I checked with the Post oFfice and the cost was going to be ridiculous to send them Data Post or whatever it's called. And because of (and here I quote

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:31:27PM -0500, David H. Adler wrote: > Keep me informed. I'll call a meeting. If they've dried up or $demand > $supply I am happy to do a run: I have some credits at the place in San Fran that did the yapc::Europe shirts. I'm starting to think some variation of Mark F

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-14 Thread Tony Bowden
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:05:54PM -0500, David H. Adler wrote: > And how can we get them to the states? Now that I think of it, do the > vienna/belfast contingents still have the ones that didn't make it > here last month? I know at least a couple of ny.pm people want > them... Nope - they nev

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-14 Thread David Hodgkinson
"David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 07:29:31PM +, David Hodgkinson wrote: > > > > I'm going to the states "soon" but there's nothing certain. > > Keep me informed. I'll call a meeting. X-) -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodg

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-14 Thread David H. Adler
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 07:29:31PM +, David Hodgkinson wrote: > > I'm going to the states "soon" but there's nothing certain. Keep me informed. I'll call a meeting. dha -- David H. Adler - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "Well, sure, being a ruthless godless dictator is

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-14 Thread David Hodgkinson
"David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 09:39:07AM +, David Hodgkinson wrote: > > > > Are there any of these left? > > And how can we get them to the states? Now that I think of it, do the > vienna/belfast contingents still have the ones that didn't make it >

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-14 Thread David H. Adler
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 09:39:07AM +, David Hodgkinson wrote: > > Are there any of these left? And how can we get them to the states? Now that I think of it, do the vienna/belfast contingents still have the ones that didn't make it here last month? I know at least a couple of ny.pm people