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I hired a trim shop to install a new headliner in my 1970 280SE 3.5 sunroof coupe 15 years ago. Because the body shop had already removed the old headliner, the tech in the trim shop had a steep learning curve and charged me 30 hours ($900) for labor. The headliner itself was about $100 IIRC.

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Ditto for the Cessna - it's headliner was MIA, so we installed a new one - shark's teeth around the edges, metal bows on top - the missing ones fabricated from welding rod - and a couple of wrinkles at the end. On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 11:44 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com>

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Thanks Max, I put a new headliner in my '35 Chevy after WW-2. It had the metal ribs, and it wasn't easy. I don't remember how I did it, but I do remember there were some wrinkles after the job was finished. Gerry Meade Dillon wrote: > >> > >> Gerry, no. This headliner system started

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Hey, if it costs less, weighs less, and outlasts the warranty, it's progress. Mitch > On April 30, 2018 at 10:46 AM Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I wish it was the old style with the bows and stuff. I wouldn’t be messing > with it if that were the case. > > So

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I wish it was the old style with the bows and stuff. I wouldn’t be messing with it if that were the case. So much for progress -D On Apr 30, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >> >> I think it is cost saving, probably much faster to install, less

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> > I think it is cost saving, probably much faster to install, less weight, > easier to replace in future. Good thing it's all of those, since you'll be replacing it three or four times to the one of the old style! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

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I think it is cost saving, probably much faster to install, less weight, easier to replace in future. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On April 30, 2018 8:59:29 AM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >I wonder why they changed that half way thru

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I wonder why they changed that half way thru the 124 run? Must have cheapened our or something. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2018, at 7:10 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Gerry, no. This headliner system started mid-way in the 124 series. Your > car

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Gerry, no. This headliner system started mid-way in the 124 series. Your car probably has a cloth headliner that is suspended with metal rods, far more durable. Early 124 cars had the same. I've thought about getting the headliner from an early 124 sedan to fit into my '95, the hard part is

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Would an '83 240D have the same headliner system? Thanks, Gerry Dan Penoff wrote: > While my roof is being done I decided to take the day off and work on the > 400E some more, since a car had to be trapped inside the garage as the > roofer’s rolloff container for the old roofing had to be

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I have had some past success removing the "dead foam" from headliner cards using nylon dish brush [the kind with a handle] to break loose the remaining foam bits from the headliner card without doing damage to it. It also helps to use two folding tables as a work surface to support the headliner

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Take out the “A” pillar trim, “B" pillar trim, loosen the leading edge of the “C” pillar trim, pull off the windlace that goes around the door openings, remove the rear courtesy light, remove trim strip on the leading edge of the sunroof opening, remove the grab handles and trim panel

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On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 08:58:55 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > What method and tools did you use to strip off the board and the > headliner fabric? I've got same problem on my E300. My question is, how do you get the headliner board out? Craig

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Nothing more than a plastic putty knife and a shop vac. If you use a shop vac with a plastic nozzle you can scrape and remove the remains of the foam from the headliner board without a lot of difficulty, and it’s not terribly messy. Try to avoid scraping it into big clumps, as these will end

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The daughter unit’s 124 has the saggy liner problem now too. Might have to look into this. --R Sent from iPhone > On Apr 28, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > The material I got for the wagon is new, and from JoAnn fabrics. They stock > foam

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The material I got for the wagon is new, and from JoAnn fabrics. They stock foam backed headliner material at the stores, and if you use one of their many coupons, it’s pretty cheap. -D > On Apr 28, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Where did

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What method and tools did you use to strip off the board and the headliner fabric? I've got same problem on my E300. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On April 27, 2018 9:10:22 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >While my roof is being done I decided

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Where did you get new material, and does it have the foam backing? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On April 27, 2018 9:17:00 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >Thanks! > >This is just a run-up to doing the headliner in the W210 wagon. I’ve >got the

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Braver man than I AM. Not sure I would,tackle a,new,headliner Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Apr 27, 2018 9:17 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Thanks! > > This is just a run-up to doing the headliner in the W210 wagon. I’ve got > the new material for it, but

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Thanks! This is just a run-up to doing the headliner in the W210 wagon. I’ve got the new material for it, but it’s still going to be a pig of a job… -D > On Apr 27, 2018, at 9:12 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Attaboy Dan. > > Dwight Giles Jr. >

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Attaboy Dan. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Apr 27, 2018 9:10 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > While my roof is being done I decided to take the day off and work on the > 400E some more, since a car had to be trapped inside the garage as the > roofer’s rolloff

[MBZ] Today's 400E Fun

While my roof is being done I decided to take the day off and work on the 400E some more, since a car had to be trapped inside the garage as the roofer’s rolloff container for the old roofing had to be placed in front of the garage. Took the sagging headliner out, stripped the headliner board

[MBZ] Today's 400E Fun - Mirror Boots!

Got a good set of used mirror boots. Took the mirrors off, cleaned everything up, soaked the new (used) boots in a bucket of hot water to soften them up and got them installed. Slathered both with lots and lots of 303 to protect them. The old ones were so bad I had to literally chip them off

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I have no doubt you will get it running. Should be a fun car and well worth the trouble. I push my skinny 420 tires to the limit fairly often so the sportier suspension on the 400e would be very nice. On Feb 25, 2018 1:28 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

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Is the ASR light supposed to be lit in limp home mode? Is limp home mode on all the time, or intermittent? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

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Sounds like you are in over your head on this one. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2018, at 2:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have the same diagnostic system the dealer has. It’s unlikely the dealer > has anyone capable of working on this car at the

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I keep on forgetting that the '90s models -- although still "new" to me -- are in fact are antiquated and of little interest to the dealership community. On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have the same diagnostic system the dealer has.

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I have the same diagnostic system the dealer has. It’s unlikely the dealer has anyone capable of working on this car at the level required. I have a third (yes, third) generation MB independent nearby that would be my go-to for this if I was to start asking for help at that level. They’ve

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If beyond this point you are still stuck, would you consider having a dealer to perform an advanced diagnostic test? On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Thanks, Karl, PM sent. > > The typical culprits for these cars, which are nearly identical >

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Thanks, Karl, PM sent. The typical culprits for these cars, which are nearly identical functionally to the W140s of the same vintage, is bad wiring. However, mine has all been replaced as has the ETA. As for the diagnostics, they’re actually pretty good for this vintage model, and for that

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So my confusion continues: 1993 400E (W124.034) Complaint: In limp home mode, ASR light is lit at all times. Engine has high idle (1200-1300 rpm) and surges with no load. When loaded (in gear or driving) engine is smooth and performance is good. Engine harnesses, both upper and lower,

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Put the shelf battery in the car. Couldn’t tell a difference, but system voltage is running at about 14.5 VDC, which is a good thing. Drove it a bit now that it’s legal. If it’s in LHM I could barely tell, as it had no problem accelerating and shifts were at the proper rpm/speed. Still

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Sounds like progress Dan. I wouldxsay to rule outvthe battery first. I was,taught to always,look for the,simplest issue first. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Feb 24, 2018 3:20 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Started out adjusting the trunk snubbers I put on the

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This sounds like quite an advanced project or, as my Greek-heritage math prof would have said, "thees ees non treevial". On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Started out adjusting the trunk snubbers I put on the other night so you > don’t

[MBZ] Today's 400E Fun

Started out adjusting the trunk snubbers I put on the other night so you don’t have to slam the trunk lid to get it to latch. Works nice now. Adjusted the throttle linkage per spec to make sure all of that was in order. Put a new mast on the antenna, although I’m a bit befuddled about the

[MBZ] Today's 400E Fun!

Fun with O2 sensors and wheel sensors….. http://penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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Thanks Dan sounds like tomorrow will be Martha report Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Feb 13, 2018 9:14 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Got home from work and ran the car into the garage. Pulled the carpets > and shampooed them. Pulled the back seat lower

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Lots to do! You might need a whole week before the car is flip-ready. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Got home from work and ran the car into the garage. Pulled the carpets > and shampooed them. Pulled the back seat lower cushion. No

[MBZ] Today's 400E Fun

Got home from work and ran the car into the garage. Pulled the carpets and shampooed them. Pulled the back seat lower cushion. No bundles of $50s as I always hope. For that matter, no mints, Cheetos or change, either. Dang it! Opened the hood and started in there. Took the air cleaner off