Re: [MBZ] SLs for sale

2017-06-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No thanks. They're different colors. :(( On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Good luck bidding on these: > > http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/car-connections/perfect- > pair-original-owner-1950s-mercedes-benz-300sl-gullwing- >

Re: [MBZ] SLS Conversion

2017-06-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Right on! I thought he had a kit to ADD SLS. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes June 2, 2017 at 12:26 PM I think that is disgusting. Car handles poorly w/o SLS. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] SLS Conversion

2017-06-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
10 years ago it was super popular with the 16v set. Oh, well, their loss was my gain. I bought a 16v with bad spheres and control valve, and bought a used valve for $40 from some guy who deleted a working SLS from his W201. Mitch. > On June 2, 2017 at 1:31 PM Craig via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] SLS Conversion

2017-06-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 13:13:58 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Just came across this: > > http://slsconversion.com I wonder how many TDs and TEs will be destroyed because of this. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] SLS Conversion

2017-06-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Agreed. I was taken aback when I saw this. Apparently the seller is on eBay as well. Too bad. -D > On Jun 2, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > I think that is disgusting. Car handles poorly w/o SLS. > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Dan Penoff via

Re: [MBZ] SLS Conversion

2017-06-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I think that is disgusting. Car handles poorly w/o SLS. On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Just came across this: > > http://slsconversion.com > > -D > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list

Re: [MBZ] SLS in the Wild

2016-02-08 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
yabbutt he has an SLS and you don't so who's the doucheboy? I saw an AMG GT a month or two ago, was in front of me at a stoplight, I sorta liked it. It was a dark gray, kinda like my Suburban, not sure the color did much for me but the car generally had some nice lines/curves. I'm surprised

Re: [MBZ] SLS in the Wild

2016-02-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Vaping is a key indicator of the guy's position in the douche canoe, no doubt about it. Put that dammed thing down for one minute... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65_-vNtWLLs Needs to be updated but the idea is there. -Curt From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes To:

Re: [MBZ] sls

2015-09-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I paid $130 with my MB Club discount... On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: > Andrew > > i've speculated about blackness in the sls oil > > i have it but don't worry about it > > the black could also come from the deteriorated hose > > you can change the

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-24 Thread Fmiser
Andrew wrote: Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Yes. The hardest or riskiest part is the lines/pipes. Like brake lines, they require the nut to spin on the line so rust and corrosion can interfere. A couple bolts hold the valve body to the car. Oh, and the link to the anti-sway bar

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-24 Thread Fmiser
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So with my symptoms (bouncy rear, inability to raise rear of the car under load), how likely is it that my valve is defective? I strongly suspect you have two separate issues. But if you want the system to function as original, then the components have to

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-24 Thread Rich Thomas
Here you go http://click.harborfreightemail.com/?qs=de3a1ed369d61c56f2afbfabe0671bbf517133d1b8fb51843bdb750fe9a8b241f4e691157d1513fc --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-24 Thread Rich Thomas
With coupon it is actually only $80 Coupons: http://widgets.harborfreight.com/wswidgets/common/displayCoupon.do?main=truehdr=magweek=1414campaign=apage=1414a_lander.htmlcust=60272269278keycode=1020utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=1714butm_source=1020 On 4/24/14 6:25 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Here

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-24 Thread Rich Thomas
And jackstands for $20 $100 (plus whatever usurious tax you have to pay there) and yer outfitted --R On 4/24/14 6:25 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Here you go http://click.harborfreightemail.com/?qs=de3a1ed369d61c56f2afbfabe0671bbf517133d1b8fb51843bdb750fe9a8b241f4e691157d1513fc --R

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-24 Thread MG
pressure the pump is capable of producing. If it does 130 bar it's good to go. Manfred Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 23:37:11 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Is there a way to test the pump for sufficient pressure? Is this even

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Dan Penoff
It's not bad, but you better have a good set of flare nut wrenches to do it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Easy-peasy on my W201, a real bear

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Jim Cathey
That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? I doubt it. Flare nuts, etc. Corrosion. Aluminum body... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
So with my symptoms (bouncy rear, inability to raise rear of the car under load), how likely is it that my valve is defective? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? I doubt it. Flare nuts,

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So with my symptoms (bouncy rear, inability to raise rear of the car under load), how likely is it that my valve is defective? It wasn't unable to raise under load until they adjusted the valve, right? I suspect your valve is now out of adjustment. Might have also been

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5 and then we did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from its sunken state until the two beefy techs got off of the tailgate. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Meade Dillon
Sounds like your pump is not supplying sufficient pressure. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 10:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5 and then we did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
How would that impact the bounciness? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like your pump is not supplying sufficient pressure. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 10:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: No, the tech

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Meade Dillon wrote: Sounds like your pump is not supplying sufficient pressure. Huh? It was pumped up, too highly pumped up. (with help from too strong springs, we assume) Techs forced it down by adjusting the control valve until the fender lip was 14ish inches above the hub center. Then and

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Jim Cathey
No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5 and then we did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from its sunken state until the two beefy techs got off of the tailgate. Doesn't sound like it's able to make pressure. Leaking valve internals? The system really

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Best answer yet - thanks, Jim. Do you think incorrect springs play a role too? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5 and then we did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Meade Dillon
If the springs are too strong / too tall, and the pump cannot provide more than base pressure (cannot lift the rear when loaded), then the springs are carrying more weight than designed. Therefore the system is not balanced, with a bias toward the springs carrying the weight. Andrew's load test

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Meade Dillon wrote: First step is to ensure the correct springs are installed, I think the system needs to be bled at the strut connections, the pump pressure is now suspect in my mind, and finally the valve can be adjusted and proper operation validated. Sounds like a plan. Are you

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Meade Dillon
Already made the offer, no response.. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 12:23 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Meade Dillon wrote: First step is to ensure the correct springs are installed, I think the system needs to be bled at the strut connections, the pump pressure is now

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Yeah, a very tempting offer. I would first need to confirm that the springs are different from my other wagon, then acquire a floor jack + jack stands. Hope to have the springs questions sorted out this week so next week I could entertain doing something about it. Meade - do you live in the DC

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we were going to buy together, or he was going to buy from me, but I just paid for it and am keeping it whenever it finds its way back home. If you use it, you can pay some rent, preferably beer but no elmerdedelgato pepper

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
el mer del gato = Ocean of the cat? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we were going to buy together, or he was going to buy from me, but I just paid for it and am

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Randy Bennell
On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!!

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread WILTON
Chuckietown, SC. Wilt - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles Yeah, a very tempting offer. I would first need to confirm

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Randy Bennell
BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know where it is right now. On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23,

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Max has mine/[ours] --R On 4/23/14 3:21 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know where it is right now. On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas
On 4/23/14 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: el merDE del gato = Sh*t of the cat? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we were going to buy together, or he was going to

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Randy Bennell
You are just making this way too easy for Andrew. Did you folks buy the fancy, expensive, MB endorsed tool? On 23/04/2014 2:29 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Max has mine/[ours] --R On 4/23/14 3:21 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas
It is one of the knockoffs but quite stout. I bought it from a guy around here who had used it to put lower springs on a 560SEC. I used it on the SD when i did the front suspension last summer. The only problem with it is that when it bottoms out the threads did not engage the bottom so I

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Craig
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:16:14 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Best answer yet - thanks, Jim. Do you think incorrect springs play a role too? Looking at his answer, Valve has a base (resting) pressure setting. If that was broken, _and_ you had too-strong springs the

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Meade Dillon
I'm moving into the house next to you... I'm in the D.C. area for a couple more days, don't know when I'll be back up. Window of opportunity is closing... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 1:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, a very tempting offer. I would

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Meade Dillon
Actually we prefer Mount Plastic. Lunch next week? Pick a day, I'll bring along the compressor. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 2:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we were going to buy

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Randy Bennell
Now there you go. If Andrew believes he must use the tool because the manual told him to, then he is also going to believe he must use the CORRECT TOOL! I doubt a knockoff will be sufficient for his purpose. On 23/04/2014 2:59 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: It is one of the knockoffs but quite stout.

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread dseretakis
Andrew has used the real thing. He is now spoiled:) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Now there you go. If Andrew believes he must use the tool because the manual told him to, then he is also going to believe he must use the CORRECT

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Is there a way to test the pump for sufficient pressure? Is this even plausible? It doesn't leak and the fluid circulates. So how is there a problem? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Now there you go. If Andrew believes he must use the tool because

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Is there a way to test the pump for sufficient pressure? Is this even plausible? It doesn't leak and the fluid circulates. So how is there a problem? If fluid is being returned to the filter under the reservoir cap, I would feel safe in concluding that the pump is

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Meade Dillon
You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor required. Wednesday night, be there about 7 or 8? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 11:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Are flying up to DC. for the weekend with your spring compressor by any

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor required. Wednesday night, be

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Spring compressor not needed for rears, only fronts. You need a jack and some jack stands. Harbor Freight is your friend. Fatty is your springie thingie friend. --R On 4/22/14 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the back, even with sedan springs. Was Max possibly offering to help you yank the springs out of the good car and

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread astrasfogel
Why not? -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 00:34PM -0400 from Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net: Spring compressor not needed for rears, only fronts. You need a jack and some jack stands.  Harbor Freight is your friend. Fatty is your springie thingie friend. --R On 4/22/14 12:26 PM,

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread astrasfogel
First I need to confirm diameter of springs in the other wagon. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve.  Need to order the parts first... I don't think

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread astrasfogel
Service manual says otherwise. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve.  Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Meade Dillon
No spring compressor is required, even though the book call for one. Did this on my '85 wagon when I rebuilt the rear suspension. Loosen strut connection at control arm. Bleed off pressure in SLS system. Lift the back of the car until all pressure is off the springs, pull them out. Need to be

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles in spring

2014-04-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Service manual assumes access to special tool plus they are not going to suggest that the springs can be removed without it. Lawyers would have a field day if things went wrong. With care the rear springs can be removed without compression, using a trolley jack. In one episode of wheeler

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles in spring

2014-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik and Fay wrote: Could not find English version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aucrdPTfo4 Is this it? http://filenuke.com/e71cqif4l2we ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Jim Cathey
I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Craig
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Craig
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:02:25 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Now that I cannot say; I've only worked on Sedans. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Easy-peasy on my W201, a real bear to get at on my S210. Don't know about your S123. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread David Bruckmann
Yes. Dead easy. Just be careful about corrosion: aluminium and salt are a bad combo, so you may find that you have stripped threads, esp the bleed valve. Might want to give everything a good soaking with Liquid Wrench in case it helps. Also, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should you remove the control

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-21 Thread Hendrik and Fay
So can't you swap springs from the 83 to 85? The SLS relies on both the springs and struts to share the load, so essentially if your spring is weak more load is carried on the struts. Hendrik who knows very little about SLS systems On 21/04/14 07:57, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So I loaded an

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
No. The 83 works fine. I am debating the cost of swapping springs vs. swapping the rear valve with a used one. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: So can't you swap springs from the 83 to 85? The SLS relies on both the springs and struts to share the

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-21 Thread Meade Dillon
Great idea! If Andrew owns a floor jack and a couple sets of axle stands (Four total), he can take the springs from the good car and install in bad car to see if the problem is solved. Easy-peasy to swap them, loosen the strut mounts at the bottom, jack up the rear at the differential and the

Re: [MBZ] sls spring troubles

2014-04-21 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I don't know what Andrew owns, apart from a couple of S123's. What's option B, Andrew buys new springs for his car, which may be getting pricey due to being exclusive to the S123 (and I think even in the S123 there where several different springs available). Pays to get em put in and finds

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Are flying up to DC. for the weekend with your spring compressor by any chance? On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea! If Andrew owns a floor jack and a couple sets of axle stands (Four total), he can take the springs from the good car and

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
I think the pump rebuild kits aren't too expensive, but more expensive than a fluid change. After you replace the spheres, change the fluid and watch the color. If engine oil it's contaminating, would the fluid level change? Would the engine oil level change? Easiest way to change the fluid is

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Jim Cathey
i may also have oil intrusion I don't see how, there's essentially no contact between the systems. I had ours apart a bunch. The only engine oil in the area is a little bit of splash at the drive end of the pump. And there's an oil seal there. Most of the pump is under high pressure. For it

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way harder to push down in the rear - far stiffer - and there was no residual bouncing after I did my pushing down on the rear deck.. Presumably it has the

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
Springs first, you have good evidence they are wrong springs... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 6:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Dan Penoff
It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a large, clear container. Start

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Dan Penoff
That's *hydroscopic* Darned autocorrect. Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Greg Fiorentino
hydrous optic Hygroscopic? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 4:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Rick Knoble
: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:25 PMTo: 'Mercedes Discussion List'Reply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil hydrous optic Hygroscopic?‎ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Makes the eyes water? Gerry It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
...chuckles... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 9:46 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Makes the eyes water? Gerry It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Hawkins Java wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it I'd still like to know what makes Andy's wagon go boing, boing, boing. Would having too

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Craig
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 23:28:54 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: More to the point of passing safety inspection, does it get better or worse with ten bags of softener salt in the back? Now that would be a simple fix for the inspection. It could be simulated without buying the salt by

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread astrasfogel
That I can try on my own - great idea. -- Saturday, 19 April 2014, 11:28PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Jim Cathey
OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles 1982 300td

2014-04-18 Thread Scott Ritchey
If it rides hard (feels like the axle is welded to the frame) that is caused by one or both failed spheres. The bad news is that failed spheres will damage the SLS valve if you drive it long with bad spheres. Max I may very well have a problem with the valve too BUT the fact that the

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles 1982 300td

2014-04-18 Thread Meade Dillon
What Scott said. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 18, 2014 2:49 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: If it rides hard (feels like the axle is welded to the frame) that is caused by one or both failed spheres. The bad news is that failed spheres will damage the SLS valve if you

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles 300td 1982

2014-04-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Hawkins Java wrote: So what kind of damage could be done to the pump? it's a pretty simple device pounding around of the pistons or something the lever is moved all the time when you drive around and hit bumps, no matter how heavy or light you use it, i would think lack of the

Re: [MBZ] SLs

2013-12-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
OK, call me crazy, but each of these looks like a screaming buy. On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4132003477.html https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/4227865502.html --R

Re: [MBZ] SLs

2013-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff
The SL600 is a good deal, but realize that these cars (V12s) will bleed you dry just on day to day operating expenses. From what I have learned about them from my W140 folks, they're not that difficult to maintain, but some systems like the suspension hydraulics in the later models can

Re: [MBZ] SLs

2013-12-10 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
The white SL500 is beautiful. If it had a diesel engine, I'd buy it in a minute. Also, there is a 2006 Jaguar-X for $8K sitting next to the SL500 make an offer with a probable bad engine that Dan called about in Crystal River, Fl. I wonder if a 617 diesel engine would fit under its hood?

Re: [MBZ] SLs

2013-12-10 Thread Mountain Man
Gerry wrote: The white SL500 is beautiful. The front quarters on these look too much like mid '80's Mustang to entice me. Too much poser rich guy appearance than desireable. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] SLs

2013-12-10 Thread Jim Cathey
The front quarters on these look too much like mid '80's Mustang to entice me. I've always thought so, too. But once the _price_ also matches a mid 80's Mustang then they start to get a lot more interesting. The 107's appearance is hard to beat, though. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] SLS vid rip off

2013-07-09 Thread Dan Penoff
Good. I wasn't the only one who was disappointed. Figured it was an everything you wanted to know about self leveling suspension video. D Sent from my iPad On Jul 8, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I want my money back as well. Hendrik who settled in with

Re: [MBZ] SLS vid rip off

2013-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
I'll go make a vid of the TD's SLS and post it for y'all to get edumacated about. --R On 7/9/13 5:57 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Good. I wasn't the only one who was disappointed. Figured it was an everything you wanted to know about self leveling suspension video. D Sent from my iPad On Jul 8,

Re: [MBZ] SLS vid

2013-07-08 Thread Fmiser
Rich wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haR2Q4JfWdc Oh. Not about Self Leveling Suspension -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] SLS vid

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Thats what I thought too. BTW I managed to burn a hole through the generator in that *^%$! Mil-spec you traded me. ;) -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 18:05:37 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] SLS vid Message-ID: 20130708180537.4fad3

Re: [MBZ] SLS vid

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Canfield
Drool drool. So just what does one of those go for? Gorgeous. Mike On Jul 7, 2013 1:30 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=haR2Q4JfWdchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haR2Q4JfWdc --R __**_

Re: [MBZ] SLS vid rip off

2013-07-08 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Yeah I want my money back as well. Hendrik who settled in with a nice cuppa, ready to learn all about SLS systems On 09/07/13 08:35, Fmiser wrote: Rich wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haR2Q4JfWdc Oh. Not about Self Leveling Suspension -- Philip

Re: [MBZ] SLS kaput

2012-03-19 Thread Fred Moir
Not, Bring a trailer' but, Bring a shovel ? Minimal electronics for me. Maybe a radio. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 3/19/2012 7:58 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Wreck 'em early and get it over with... http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics2012mar19/mercedes-sls-amg-41

Re: [MBZ] SLS

2011-12-21 Thread RELNGSON
It sure is whine-y like a belt driven supercharger.  Is it really that much faster/better car/driver than everything else on the track, or is this a pro driver and pro car on a track  full of amateurs/trainers? The sound is the transmission. The car has a double-clutch transmission and

Re: [MBZ] SLS

2011-12-21 Thread Dieselhead
Interesting. I figured it was gear whine from the trans or diff. But it whines like a belt driven supercharger. So what is the answer to the question you quoted? It sure is whine-y like a belt driven supercharger. Is it really that much faster/better car/driver than everything

Re: [MBZ] SLS

2011-12-21 Thread John Freer
It's NA. John Sent from my iPad On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. I figured it was gear whine from the trans or diff. But it whines like a belt driven supercharger. So what is the answer to the question you quoted? It sure is

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2011-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/08/2011 3:44 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Folks either my sls pump or the hi pressure sls line out of the pump is leaking on my 300td do any of you know the specs for correct rear seal and o ring to reseal an sls pump? I have a couple of probably good ones (besides the one on the

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