On 2014-03-30, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
...the sample clock was locked to twice the horizontal scan rate of
15625Hz, i.e. 31.25kHz.
Wasn't that the rate used for PCM audio in Hi8 video recorders?
Apparently so, and for the same precise reason. That applies to Hi8
derived from PAL, and with
Am 30.03.14 20:48, schrieb David Pickett:
Anybody know how to get access to streaming metadata?
Play it back in VLC and display the stream parameters.
Ralf
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According to Rupert Brun, Head of Technology for BBC Radio, the rate
used for the 4.0 streaming frm the South Bank was 48kHz.
What I dont like is that one can record the stream at 44.1kHz and the
sample rate conversion appears to be dont in Windows. Is there a
means of actually showing the sa
Am 30.03.14 19:31, schrieb Sampo Syreeni:
...the sample clock was locked
to twice the horizontal scan rate of 15625Hz, i.e. 31.25kHz.
Wasn't that the rate used for PCM audio in Hi8 video recorders?
Ralf
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On 2014-03-30, Dave Malham wrote:
48 kHz is pretty well the international standard sample rate for
broadcast organisation and has been since they started upgrading from
the 32kHz used (by the Beeb) for distributing audio to FM transmitters
back in the late 60's.
...and many others in their w
Dave Malham wrote:
48 kHz is pretty well the international standard sample rate for
broadcast organisation and has been since they started upgrading from
the 32kHz used (by the Beeb) for distributing audio to FM
transmitters back in the late 60's.
Dave
True I expect, but for some reason the "n
48 kHz is pretty well the international standard sample rate for broadcast
organisation and has been since they started upgrading from the 32kHz used
(by the Beeb) for distributing audio to FM transmitters back in the late
60's.
Dave
On 19 March 2014 16:47, Aaron Heller wrote:
> I download
--On 20 March 2014 15:41 + Andy Furniss wrote:
> Yea, I did also mention buffering, just that I assume the buffer is
> normally big enough so that it doesn't run out/overflow in a
> reasonable
> time.
This is not the kind of programming I have ever done, and it makes me
uncomfortable - not t
Paul Hodges wrote:
--On 20 March 2014 11:14 + Andy Furniss
wrote:
I think it's just like playing any compressed audio file.
But it isn't, because a slight mismatch in clock speeds would mean
that the playback could run ahead and eventually run out of buffered
samples to play. Of course,
--On 20 March 2014 11:14 + Andy Furniss wrote:
> I think it's just like playing any compressed audio file.
But it isn't, because a slight mismatch in clock speeds would mean that
the playback could run ahead and eventually run out of buffered samples
to play. Of course, this issue is the sa
--On 20 March 2014 12:02 +0100 David Pickett wrote:
>> I understand that the current Windows SRC is pretty good, actually.
>
> I probably know less about this than you do. But do you mean Windows
> 8? Windows 7, which I am using appear to have a problem, but with a
> secret fix that I havent t
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:17:30AM +, Paul Hodges wrote:
> But if the data is coming from the Internet, that data
> cannot but be separately clocked, but it can't provide the master clock
> for the interface - it just hasn't the stability, and buffering will
> get in the way and so on.
No
Paul Hodges wrote:
Or maybe I just don't understand digital audio properly, or at least
the Internet aspect of it.
I think it's just like playing any compressed audio file. AIUI they are
just streaming 4 channel AAC, so with the buffering that is implicit in
streaming you may as well be playin
At 11:17 20-03-14, Paul Hodges wrote:
I understand that the current Windows SRC is pretty good, actually.
I probably know less about this than you do. But do you mean Windows
8? Windows 7, which I am using appear to have a problem, but with a
secret fix that I havent tried yet:
http://su
--On 19 March 2014 18:47 +0100 David Pickett wrote:
> A bit scary that, as Paul said, Microsoft employ SRC automatically if
> you get it wrong...
Actually, after thinking about this, I suspect it's unavoidable in this
situation, even if the data rates are "matched".
Where's the master clock? M
Tonight's effort a bit of a dog's breakfast with glitches, drop-outs and
confusion over the recorded link pieces in the interval. However, when it was
working, it was pretty damned impressive. They seem to have tweaked the
surrounds a bit, so no need to up the gain any more. Together with some r
At 17:47 19-03-14, Aaron Heller wrote:
>I downloaded the MPD file on the FAQ page with
> wget http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/dash/ondemand/channel_test/1/5.mpd
It asked me what you wanted to do with it automatically! Just
selected "download".
>If I'm reading it correctly, the channel announcement
I downloaded the MPD file on the FAQ page with
wget http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/dash/ondemand/channel_test/1/5.mpd
If I'm reading it correctly, the channel announcements are 320 kbits/sec,
48k sample rate.
Aaron
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:01 AM, Kees de Visser wrote:
> On 19 Mar 2014, at 07:33
On 19 Mar 2014, at 07:33, David Pickett wrote:
> I suspect that most of the problems last night were at the originating end,
> though there were cases when there were beats missing as the stream caught
> up, which seemed more likely to be delays in the Internet.
from the BBC blog:
> 21. Rupert B
At 23:33 18-03-14, Paul Hodges wrote:
>--On 18 March 2014 23:18 +0100 David Pickett wrote:
>
>> BBC server went down several times this evening.
>
>What I don't understand is why things like that go down so easily; it
>may be hard to get a computer system running, but if it's done even
>reasonabl
--On 18 March 2014 23:18 +0100 David Pickett wrote:
> BBC server went down several times this evening.
:-( And I specifically wanted /that/ concert. I had a dinner party,
so I started recording and left it - I haven't checked, but presumably
that means I have nothing after the first break. Bu
BBC server went down several times this evening. But the rebuilt RFH
organ sounded much improved, and from time to time I could imagine I was there.
Orchestra and piano tomorrow evening.
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Hmm, tonight's concert started out well, now stream has gone off-line here.
Live streaming of the stereo feed from the BBC Web-site seems fine, but no
surround at the moment. Ah, Twitter feed says technical hitch...
John
On 18 Mar 2014, at 12:13, John Leonard wrote:
> Got back in time to gra
Got back in time to grab the last half-hour or so if the Dvorak, and like
others, I found I needed to bring up the surround levels to get an idea of what
was on offer. The quality was pretty good, though; certainly better than most
of the audio streaming services I've listened to. I can record t
Am 17.03.14 18:27, schrieb Pierre Alexandre Tremblay:
I use very reliably jackosx
Would you have a set-up that you could share with me?
I've had Jack installed for a long while, never got it to wkork, and
every time I decide it might be worth another try to get it up and
running ends in tear
--On 17 March 2014 22:06 +0100 David Pickett wrote:
> it is being streamed live over the internet, and apart from a few
> dropouts is actually WORKING! Furthermore, it is not TOO difficult
> to make it work at home.
A separate message to keep my disappointment away from this real step
forward.
--On 17 March 2014 21:19 + Paul Hodges
wrote:
> the audience coughing in the gaps in the
> Brahms sounds from in front.
Dvorak, of course - a senior moment while typing too fast.
Paul
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--On 17 March 2014 22:06 +0100 David Pickett wrote:
> I turned the back up 4dB. It works for the applause. 6dB seems a
> bit too much to me. But how much sound do you expect to surround you
> in the RFH? It may be better than it was, but it's not King's Chapel!
Sure - but even with my 6dB, t
On 17 Mar 2014, at 21:46, Paul Hodges wrote:
> But as for the surround, well huh! The usual uncorrelated mish-mash in
> the rear channels, signifying nothing. Turning on the rear speakers
> did push the stereo image back from the front speakers just a bit.
That's hardly a surprise when reading t
At 21:46 17-03-14, Paul Hodges wrote:
>--On 17 March 2014 20:52 +0100 David Pickett wrote:
>
>> The go to http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/radio3/index.html and click on the
>> play button, and four channels of Brahms Tragic Overture appeared.
>
>Followed by John Lill playing Rach 3 at the age of 70 - Ma
At 21:07 17-03-14, Augustine Leudar wrote:
>>
>> "I installed Chrome (having previously set a System Restore Point), "
>You are such a drama queen :) I'm glad you got it working though - Ill have
>to try this out
No. I have learned not to trust dwnloaded software, after some bad
experiences!
--On 17 March 2014 20:52 +0100 David Pickett wrote:
> The go to http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/radio3/index.html and click on the
> play button, and four channels of Brahms Tragic Overture appeared.
Followed by John Lill playing Rach 3 at the age of 70 - Magnificent!
But as for the surround, well huh
>
> "I installed Chrome (having previously set a System Restore Point), "
You are such a drama queen :) I'm glad you got it working though - Ill have
to try this out
>
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Having tried earlier to get this to work -- unsuccessfully because I
was messing with the Realtek HD Audio Manager which turend out to be
irrelevant -- I decided to have another go at fooled around with my
PC and, as is often the case, it suddenly started doing what I wanted
(perseverance is in
I have a GigaPort AG connected by USB to my MacBook Pro and it works
correctly with Chrome Version 33.0.1750.152
I used Audio MIDI Setup (in /Applications/Utilites) and selected
"Multichannel/5.1 Surround" for the speaker configuration of the GigaPort
device.
Aaron Heller (hel...@ai.sri.com)
Men
Right, i'm slowly pulling my hair here. Is anybody having a problem in hearing
the surround rear on the chan id?
Although the computer (Win XP) connected to the internet has an M-Audio 24/96
card, which is 2 in/2 out, one of the drivers that comes with it is a multi
chan driver. So far i've bee
I use very reliably jackosx
p
Le 17 mars 2014 à 16:59, Dave Malham a écrit :
> Soundflower, perhaps?
>
>
> On 17 March 2014 15:32, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>
>> Am 17.03.14 16:25, schrieb Paul Hodges:
>>
>> (note to self: check multi-channel recording setup is OK).
>>>
>>
>> Speaking of
Soundflower, perhaps?
On 17 March 2014 15:32, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> Am 17.03.14 16:25, schrieb Paul Hodges:
>
> (note to self: check multi-channel recording setup is OK).
>>
>
> Speaking of which: how would one record this? I normally use Audio Hijack
> Pro for recording web streams but
--On 17 March 2014 16:32 +0100 Ralf R Radermacher
wrote:
> Speaking of which: how would one record this? I normally use Audio
> Hijack Pro for recording web streams but that doesn't work for
> signals with more than two channels. I'm on a Mac, BTW.
I'm using a PC, so I can't comment on the Mac a
--On 17 March 2014 15:25 + Paul Hodges
wrote:
> As an aside, I'm amused to see that the web page listing next week's
> concert on the RFH organ (another must-hear) is headed by a picture of
> the organ in the Albert Hall!
Oops on my part, too - not the Albert Hall, but one I can't identify
(
Am 17.03.14 16:25, schrieb Paul Hodges:
(note to self: check multi-channel recording setup is OK).
Speaking of which: how would one record this? I normally use Audio
Hijack Pro for recording web streams but that doesn't work for signals
with more than two channels. I'm on a Mac, BTW.
Ralf
--On 17 March 2014 00:16 + Richard Dobson
wrote:
> It appears to be under the "Live in Concert" title.
So the 19:30 concerts from the South Bank? That makes some sense - it
also means that maybe tomorrow's reopening of the restored organ may be
in surround (note to self: check multi-channel
I do neto succeed in listening to this in Stockholm Sweden, any one succeeding
outside of UK?
Bo-Erik
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On 16/03/2014 23:26, Paul Hodges wrote:
--On 16 March 2014 18:28 +0100 David Pickett wrote:
I just stumbled on this:
The test in the faq works as it says - no surprise there, as I'm set up
to play the main surround formats. However, the faq also links to the
R3 schedule for information on w
--On 16 March 2014 18:28 +0100 David Pickett wrote:
> I just stumbled on this:
The test in the faq works as it says - no surprise there, as I'm set up
to play the main surround formats. However, the faq also links to the
R3 schedule for information on when the next test is. But does this
sched
Augustine Leudar a écrit :
> not at home now - cant you just swap the "leads" round on the jack
> interface ?
My mistake was to listen to the outputs labeled "rear-left" and
"rear-right"; the outputs for the surround channels are labeled
"side-left" and "side-right".
So, it works on Linux! What
not at home now - cant you just swap the "leads" round on the jack
interface ?
On 16 March 2014 20:36, Marc Lavallée wrote:
> Augustine Leudar a écrit :
>
> > There not streaming at the moment so I cant test it - I would guess
> > that either the browser automatically routes the 4 channels to
On 16/03/2014 20:36, Marc Lavallée wrote:
Augustine Leudar a écrit :
There not streaming at the moment so I cant test it - I would guess
that either the browser automatically routes the 4 channels to
1,2,3,4 on the soundcard or there is some way of telling it which
outputs to route the 4 chann
Augustine Leudar a écrit :
> There not streaming at the moment so I cant test it - I would guess
> that either the browser automatically routes the 4 channels to
> 1,2,3,4 on the soundcard or there is some way of telling it which
> outputs to route the 4 channels to. I have an RME too , As long
At 19:30 16-03-14, Augustine Leudar wrote:
>right mouse button over volume control in bottom right hand corner >
>playack devices > click RME > set default > restart browser/applet
On that panel each of the pairs of RME output is presented
separately... (I'll look for the documentation on the
right mouse button over volume control in bottom right hand corner >
playack devices > click RME > set default > restart browser/applet
On 16 March 2014 18:25, Augustine Leudar wrote:
> There not streaming at the moment so I cant test it - I would guess that
> either the browser automatically r
There not streaming at the moment so I cant test it - I would guess that
either the browser automatically routes the 4 channels to 1,2,3,4 on the
soundcard or there is some way of telling it which outputs to route the 4
channels to. I have an RME too , As long as the RME is set as the default
soun
At 18:55 16-03-14, Augustine Leudar wrote:
>Good find ! Chrome isn't so bad actually - I use it firefox and opera -
>chrome is by far the fastest to load and less memory hungry than
>firefox though I too prefer firefox
>
Ok, if I take a chance oin Chrome not taking over my machine, then
the
Good find ! Chrome isn't so bad actually - I use it firefox and opera -
chrome is by far the fastest to load and less memory hungry than
firefox though I too prefer firefox
On 16 March 2014 17:28, David Pickett wrote:
> I just stumbled on this:
>
> http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/radio3/faq.html
>
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