Re: [OSM-talk] How to import shapefile into OSM

Hi Mikel, I've added some information on the Sudan one time upload to the import page. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Import Regards Neil Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all wi

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM cycle map radio interview + other recent radio coverage + thoughts on non-English speaking audience

hi, a) As we are getting into some "radio clippings" review: on the occasion of the mapping party in Arezzo, in addition to the extensive local coverage already mentioned by Edoardo, we also had some 8 minutes of live interview on RAI Radio 2 This is one of the main national public radio stations

Re: [OSM-talk] : Crazy ways after editing

On 05/02/2008, David Muir Sharnoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've found my missing street. The many (all?) of the moved points are > attached to it. Is there a way to move all the points in a way by several > miles? It will be difficult to do > manually. I wish Potlatch had a bookmark fea

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > Long term, we can avoid the ambiguity by making it clear that all data > belongs to OSM, whoever that is (probably the foundation), then we can > let the foundation change the license whenever they need to. This would be a copyright assignment, which would be a large

Re: [OSM-talk] Crazy ways after editing

David Muir Sharnoff wrote: > I was using Potlach. Thinking back, the thing I did differently this time > is that I did almost all of my editing while using flash-zoom. Interesting. I think I'll expressly disable the Flash zoom - it appears to be severely unpredictable when used with Stage.sc

Re: [OSM-talk] : Crazy ways after editing

I've found my missing street. The many (all?) of the moved points are attached to it. Is there a way to move all the points in a way by several miles? It will be difficult to do manually. I wish Potlatch had a bookmark feature so I could teleport back and forth... The way is 6331826, Park Bl

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] grouping simple tag proposals

On 04/02/2008, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> i think it would be a good idea to group a lot of these tags together > > >> in one proposal, > > >> > > > [...] > > > > > [] > > I guess, lot's of the simple tags are not that simple when you look more > > close at it, but let's ha

[OSM-talk] [tagging] confusion: tourism=zoo vs. leisure=zoo?!? Proposal differs from map features page!

Hi! As someone pointed out on the german list. The zoo tag in map features is under tourism: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Map_Features#Tourism But the corresponding proposal is clearly using leisure: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Zoo or see:

Re: [OSM-talk] Crazy ways after editing

David Muir Sharnoff dave.sharnoff.org> writes: > > Should I attempt to manually fix these ways? Since I don't know what > caused the problem in the first place, I'm afraid to touch anything. > > Looking at the specific problems, I think that most of the points I > touched during one longish e

Re: [OSM-talk] Crazy ways after editing

Should I attempt to manually fix these ways? Since I don't know what caused the problem in the first place, I'm afraid to touch anything. Looking at the specific problems, I think that most of the points I touched during one longish editing session got moved several miles away (and all by the sa

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

Hi, > Long term, we can avoid the ambiguity by making it clear that all data > belongs to OSM, whoever that is (probably the foundation), then we can > let the foundation change the license whenever they need to. This is undesirable because it would lead to distrust ("Ah, look what Fred's doing h

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route improvements

I think you can download the area around your town with JOSM or OSMXAPI and load the .OSM file into postgresql. Ben Laenen wrote: > I'd like to experiment with Mapnik a bit to test out my ideas. Since I > never tried to do anything like that: is it possible to use it without > needing to downl

[OSM-talk] Tagging proposals: sports

Apparently I missed some "voting on multiple tags at once" discussions here, but I have one for all you sports enthusiasts: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/all_sports it turns out that wikipedia had already done a lot of the work, in maintaining a list of sport names (

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM cycle map radio interview

Great indept interview, you explained everything thorough and clear and with a nice accent as well. Good job. BTW, how many ppl listen to that station? Any response from listeners? Lucky that you speak an language that almost everyone can understand. I did a short radio talk last week about OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route improvements

I'd like to experiment with Mapnik a bit to test out my ideas. Since I never tried to do anything like that: is it possible to use it without needing to download the entire planet file? I don't really feel like downloading 3.6GB while I just need a tiny bit near my home town... And I can't fin

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob Myers wrote: | Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: | |> I'm still think that the foundation owns everyone's data already. When |> you sign up, it says: |> "By creating an account, you agree that all work uploaded to |> openstreetmap.org and all data create

Re: [OSM-talk] Crazy ways after editing

David Muir Sharnoff wrote: >Sent: 05 February 2008 6:46 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: [OSM-talk] Crazy ways after editing > >The area of Oakland, California I've been editing >(with Potlatch) suddenly changed in a very bad way. > >There are a whole bunch of ways (at least 50, >perhaps a

[OSM-talk] Crazy ways after editing

The area of Oakland, California I've been editing (with Potlatch) suddenly changed in a very bad way. There are a whole bunch of ways (at least 50, perhaps a lot more) that have had one or more of their points move several miles south-east. A major street, Park Ave, seems to have disappeared enti

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route improvements

> > > > but in lower zooms it gets messy since it's > > > apparently a random one that "wins" for each section. > > > > That's a bug. It's actually deterministic, but I think what you're > > seeing on some parts is things like the end of the wider line > > overlapping with a different section. But

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM cycle map radio interview

Will do. Planning on doing a tileset of contours on a transparent background which I think will be what you are wanting. Having problems with srtm2shp still though, but I got a proof of concept sorted earlier today so I know it works. Cheers, Andy On Feb 5, 2008 2:03 PM, Artem Pavlenko <[EMAIL PR

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM cycle map radio interview

Thanks Steve. I've added it to the wiki too. On Feb 5, 2008 1:37 PM, Steve Chilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy > > Excellent, and the points very well put over by yourself. > Add a link to wiki when you get a mo. > Incidentally, I intend to change that to "OSM in the media" to cover all > op

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route improvements

On Feb 5, 2008 4:43 PM, Ben Laenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All the better if there's an existing tag already, but how does that > work with current tagging, I thought it > was "type=route", "route=bicycle", "network=ncn", and will this be > another tag "ncn=yes|proposed|etc"? Isn't the "ncn=y

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route improvements

On Feb 5, 2008 4:14 PM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy Allan wrote: > > > That's a bug. Fixing it will also stop people using > > ncn_ref=Something-awfully-long-that-isn't-a-reference-really, which > > suggests the invention of an ncn_name= tag. > > Oh, doesn't that exist yet..

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route improvements

On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Andy Allan wrote: > We have ncn= yes / proposed and this could easily be extended to ncn > = yes / proposed / connection / alternative / no without adding any > more tags. I'm not sure if anyone will care too much about > proposed-alternatives being different from propo

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Rendering wish value "suburb"

I will add this to the stylesheet when I do some work after the next planet dump - later this week. Cheers STEVE Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow Learning and Technical Support Unit Manager School of Health and Social Sciences Middlesex University phone/fax: 020 8411 5355 email: [EM

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route improvements

On Feb 5, 2008 4:08 PM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 5, 2008 2:47 PM, Ben Laenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, and Andy in particular, > > Hi Ben. An excellent selection of suggestions - I'll reply to them inline. I'll translate into the relation equivalents... > > > as

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route improvements

Andy Allan wrote: > That's a bug. Fixing it will also stop people using > ncn_ref=Something-awfully-long-that-isn't-a-reference-really, which > suggests the invention of an ncn_name= tag. Oh, doesn't that exist yet...? /me has been merrily adding "ncn_name=Lon Las Cymru" and the like for a while

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Progressing OSM to a new data Licence regime

Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > Ps. does that mean that if someone has a 1993 or earlier postcode DB > lying around, we can bulk load it into Free the Postcode? Yes, it should be free. Or at least one from 1992 would have become free at the end of December 31, 2007. Just like Project Gutenberg,

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route improvements

On Feb 5, 2008 2:47 PM, Ben Laenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, and Andy in particular, Hi Ben. An excellent selection of suggestions - I'll reply to them inline. > as the past weeks went by while entering cycle routes for Belgium into > OSM, I've come across several issues. It's a big ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Rendering wish value "suburb"

At 03:23 PM 2/5/2008, Artem Pavlenko wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Michael Galonska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 31 January 2008 19:27:14 GMT To: Artem Pavlenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Rendering wish value "suburb" Hello Artem,

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent Edits

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Hughes wrote: | In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | |> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |> "Robert (Jamie) Munro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> |>> What does the separate object type gain us ex

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] Recent Edits

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: | On Feb 3, 2008 1:49 PM, Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |>> What does the separate object type gain us exactly, apart from more code |>> to maintain? |> There are many issues with notes in the actual data: |> |>

[OSM-talk] Cycle route improvements

Hi all, and Andy in particular, as the past weeks went by while entering cycle routes for Belgium into OSM, I've come across several issues. It's a big mash-up of needed tags and improvements, so here goes... * Tagging of alternate routes: Some routes have shortcuts, or in general alternate w

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Progressing OSM to a new data Licence regime

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Robert Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ps. does that mean that if someone has a 1993 or earlier postcode DB > lying around, we can bulk load it into Free the Postcode? Probably not, as I expect that Royal Mail make you sign a contract with them before the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Progressing OSM to a new data Licence regime

El Martes, 5 de Febrero de 2008, Robert (Jamie) Munro escribió: > Ps. does that mean that if someone has a 1993 or earlier postcode DB > lying around, we can bulk load it into Free the Postcode? It depends. It depends on your view over the "copyrightability" of individual pieces of data. If a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Progressing OSM to a new data Licence regime

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lars Aronsson wrote: | Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: | |> I think that we should reduce the time before the data becomes |> public domain from year of editors death (which will be very |> hard for someone in 100 years time to find out) + 70 years to |> y

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Rendering wish value "suburb"

Begin forwarded message: From: Michael Galonska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 31 January 2008 19:27:14 GMT To: Artem Pavlenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Rendering wish value "suburb" Hello Artem, Would it be possible to show the key=place value="suburbs" on Mapnik with the same rules as k=pl

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM cycle map radio interview

Great, Andy! BTW, if you managed to create contours for the UK, could you send me a link? I'd like to try overlaying them on top of relief. Artem On 5 Feb 2008, at 11:44, Andy Allan wrote: > Last night's episode of "The Bike Show", aired on London's Resonance > FM, featured an extended (~25min

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM cycle map radio interview

Andy Excellent, and the points very well put over by yourself. Add a link to wiki when you get a mo. Incidentally, I intend to change that to "OSM in the media" to cover all options better. Cheers STEVE Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow Learning and Technical Support Unit Manager School of

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM cycle map radio interview

Great stuff Andy Cheers Andy >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:talk- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Allan >Sent: 05 February 2008 11:45 AM >To: Talk Openstreetmap >Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM cycle map radio interview > >Last night's episode of "The Bike Show", aired

Re: [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new data Licence regime

Ian Haylock wrote: > Surely if a person releases something under PD, he/she is giving up > all rights to that information, be it software, data, etc. > So what's to stop OSM doing what they want with the data. > > For instance if the whole of the OSM database was public domain. A > private c

[OSM-talk] OSM cycle map radio interview

Last night's episode of "The Bike Show", aired on London's Resonance FM, featured an extended (~25min) interview with your's truly on the subject of OpenStreetMap and my OSM cycle map. The interview was recorded out and about around London a couple of weeks ago - and if you want to listen to it, it

Re: [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new data Licence regime

Hi, Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What happens if a non-PD editor edits PD data? Does it become non-PD or does it stay PD? What if the editor doesn't want their edits to be PD? This is why we need one licence for everyone. I'm happy for my GPXs to be PD, but not my edits. Surely if a

Re: [OSM-talk] srtm2shp - Shapefiles from SRTM contours - new version

On Feb 4, 2008 10:19 PM, Artem Pavlenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't think so. Try unzipping them Cheers, that's certainly generating large shp files of one kind or another! Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM08 - Call for Volunteers

I added an organisation and volunteering section to the talk page of the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Talk:State_Of_The_Map_2008#Organisation On Feb 5, 2008 12:17 AM, Christian van den Bosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Gareth Eason and I would like to open up the ca

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

At 09:35 AM 2/5/2008, Rob Myers wrote: >Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > > > I'm still think that the foundation owns everyone's data already. When > > you sign up, it says: > > "By creating an account, you agree that all work uploaded to > > openstreetmap.org and all data created by use of any tools

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Progressing OSM to a new data Licence regime

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >This is Parallel Distribution. We (the cc-licences mailing list) >discussed it during the CC 3.0 public review. My personal opinion is >that it is not a good idea because there is so much room for >mischief in it. Personally I feel this is a good step forward from the cu