All
I'm told it is on the way - apparently it's been in the queue for getting
onto the Rocket website for a couple of weeks now. Just like the other
UniVerse 11 stuff :(
It exists - really - I was able to get a private download direct from Rocket
to test out a specific issue that I needed to
On 04/03/11 00:55, Bill Brutzman wrote:
It is not clear to me how SubVersion and GIT developers refer to the latest
rev of their subs. Also the reverse...what programs use the subs. This is
where OSGI fits in. I have heard rumblings that people are working on an
Eclipse-compatible OSGI
On 03/03/11 20:50, Tony Gravagno wrote:
Some people apparently have brains that toggle IF NOT ELSE faster
than others. But apparently this construct is of concern to some
people, whether as a matter of elegance or a matter of coding
effectiveness. Recognizing this, the more I can eliminate
On 03/03/11 06:04, Allen E. Elwood wrote:
I dunno, just makes me laugh every time I think about the fact that at the
lowest level there is really no such thing as digital because electricity is
analog lol
Is it? Quantum and all that?
Actually, I think I'd sort of agree with you.
The difference I see here is whether you are talking about a library
or tool you intend to share vs internal code that is not for public
use.
Companies would keep their internal work in repo's they host on their
own servers.
Something I have not come to grips with is in the dvcs world, it is
On 3/3/2011 7:09 PM, Doug wrote:
I think the idea of Distributed Version Control System (DVSC) has some merit
for certain applications. Google Code supports Subversion, and Mercurial
and maybe others in its DVSC system. Several of our customers make us jump
through hoops to get at their source
Good to know it's on its way. Thanks for the info.
Doesn't seem to ease the frustration however. :)
-bob
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:49 AM
To: 'U2
What absolute and utter rubbish!
You never had to write IF (test) ELSE ... in Pick.
READ did have a THEN clause as far back as I can remember (mid-80s) -
only LOCKED came later.
You just don't use it that often because you usually only want to do
something if your READ fails.
Typically READ rec
Come on - if something can be in two or more places at the same time it
is digital?
On 04/03/2011 10:54, Wols Lists wrote:
On 03/03/11 06:04, Allen E. Elwood wrote:
I dunno, just makes me laugh every time I think about the fact that at the
lowest level there is really no such thing as digital
Come on - if something can be in two or more places at the same time it
is digital?
My hands are digital and they're always in just one place: at the ends of
my arms. :-P
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Well, I can tell you from an UniData document error on the web site - that
web group is SLOW AS MOLASSES at things -- my guess, Rocket's acquisitions
mode keeps them in a constant state! g
If you have an urgent need, find an alternate way to 'get' the PE download.
You could wait a while for the
good comprehension = faster, accurate programming (that's programming,
not code execution)
We all want fast and accurate programming. To improve comprehension,
you have to write code to (a) reveal its logical structure, and (b)
reveal the business rules implemented in the code.
Sorry, but
Rex Gozar Said
We all want fast and accurate programming. To improve comprehension,
you have to write code to (a) reveal its logical structure, and (b)
reveal the business rules implemented in the code.
I agree. My first language was C and I went through a phase of cramming
as much code as
count += (value == 3);
Careful some programming languages represent TRUE as -1. (all bits turned
on)
David A. Green
(480) 813-1725
DAG Consulting
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
Sent:
As usual, Mecki, you expressed my thoughts eloquently. I agree 100%. IF
(test) ELSE drives me about as buggy as multiple IF/THEN/ELSE all on the
same line. If I can figure out what the original intent was, I change
the code so I can understand it at a glance later. I'm not sure why, but
OPEN
When fixing THIS.APP,
copy all the source code from THIS.APP.R3 to THIS.APP.R4,
complile .R4,
test .R4 in a SandBox,
change VOC in LIVE from R3 to R4.
ED VOC THIS.APP
1: PA
2: RUN BP.INV THIS.APP.R3
--Bill
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From:
One year ago, I was editing all of my code with EditPlus, an FTP editor. From
an editing perspective, the source code was a file in a folder on a Unix box,
the same Unix box that was running UniVerse. Inside UniVerse, there was a file
pointer (in VOC) to the source and object code.
One of
I still think all of these constructs as just sooo basic that if you can't
just read them either which way, then you had better think about another
career.
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rex Gozar
Sent: 04 March 2011 14:09
Actually, A:B:C NE '' THEN CUMM(M) = A+B+C
doesn't slow anything down compared to?
If A# OR B# OR C# THEN CUMM(M) = A+B+C
Or just CUMM(M) = A+B+C (with no IF)
Depending on whether it's expected that the majority of times A,B, or C
will have something or won't have a value will determine
agreed
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: March 4, 2011 11:05 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?
I still think all of these constructs as just sooo
Symeon wrote:
I still think all of these constructs as just sooo basic that if you can't
just read them either which way, then you had better think about another
career.
They are basic, but even good programmers will occasionally ASSUME
they understand what's going on when they really don't
Bill:
You are editing locally: that is how Eclipse works. You must copy from the
database or version control to edit the programs in this case. Unidata and
Universe do not have an external BASIC compiler. We must compile within the
U2 database. We have created tools in Eclipse to copy all or
Symeon wrote:
I still think all of these constructs as just sooo basic that if you
can't
just read them either which way, then you had better think about
another
career.
Yes, for an experienced UniBasic programmer. What if there is a new
programmer, or a programmer that normally works in
George wrote:
Actually, A:B:C NE '' THEN CUMM(M) = A+B+C
doesn't slow anything down...
I think you're talking about execution speed; I was talking about
comprehension. What data type is A? Apparently, it can be an empty
string or a number. But more importantly, what does it represent?
Hi Bill:
I find this very messy. After a program has been changed 50 times, do I
really care what the other 49 versions look like in my U2 account. I think
not.
I sometimes change a program every 1 to 5 minutes as I'm going through
testing process. Then sometimes about an hour into it I
Wow Dave, you really opened up a discussion on this one. We shall call you
Pandora... :)
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In this sense, I'd agree. Descriptive variables can never be a bad thing.
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rex Gozar
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:57 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Is
Kevin, if you only knew ...
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Hey Wol,
Now were you talking loop quantum gravity or string theory? (I'm a follower
of Dr. Michio Kaku.)
An electron is just another piece of matter that exhibits both wave and
particle characteristics. A member of the lepton class, sharing both
charge, spin and interactions with it's fellow
On 3/4/2011 11:59 AM, Doug wrote:
Hi Bill:
I find this very messy. After a program has been changed 50 times, do I
really care what the other 49 versions look like in my U2 account. I think
not.
I sometimes change a program every 1 to 5 minutes as I'm going through
testing process. Then
I know a company that is looking for SB+ North America based contract
programmers for 3 months projects (to test you) and then you commonly get
extended for 6 or 9 months more. Work on-site for project kick off, then
remote, on-site for code drops and go-live. Pays well, including TL. Please
Where ?? I don't care who at the moment - but where does matter.
From: Tom Dodds t...@ix.netcom.com
To: U2 User group u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 1:01:11 PM
Subject: [U2] SB+ positions available
I know a company that is looking for
I really don't know anything more than was included in their pre-prepared
announcement.
Send me you resume and I will pass it on and then you will know.
Tom Dodds
t...@ix.netcom.com
630.235.2975
On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Paul Wilson wrote:
Where ?? I don't care who at the moment - but
No assumption.
You are masking the very issue by merely saying condition when it was a NOT
condition :)
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From: Rex Gozar rgo...@gmail.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:09 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Is this worth
And then they (the anonymous they) came out with a version that allowed the
source to be unlimited while still limiting the object to 32K
Which made the whole world scratch their head.
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From: Charlie Noah cwn...@comcast.net
To: U2 Users List
The point is, why make a construct which is harder to understand, when it
takes the exact same amount of effort to make one which is easier to
understand? Answer that one Symeon?
Why deliberately obfuscate ?
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From: Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com
To:
I am not crazy about IF (condition) ELSE logic but the compiler supports it.
The versions of Information I was on did not support THEN on the reads until
the 90s. Once it was available we jumped on it.
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:25:48 +
From: mec...@gmx.net
To:
Hi Ron,
I don't know what version you worked on, but I worked with Information
in the mid 80s and the THEN was supported, both on READ and IF. I would
have gone ballistic if it hadn't been, since I ported many of my
utilities. I don't know about OPEN, I rarely use THEN with OPEN even
now. I
Ron is right that the OPEN, and READ did not originally support the THEN
clause, just the ELSE.
Speaking of Microdata, Ultimate and R83 versions.
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Now that you have backed me in a corner, I remember that the READ supported
THEN and ELSE. There were a couple of constructs that only had ELSE that had
THEN added. Now, I can't remember which they were.
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:16:43 -0600
From: cwn...@comcast.net
To:
David,
I agree! This is my main argument for driving the sdlc / change control from
within U2. ( And of course my product, PRC. )
Plus you can control all kinds of outside stuff - talking back and forth to
other products - from within U2. Those other applications cannot 'drive'
the change
OPEN and WRITE come to mind.
But that is still no reason to use IF condition ELSE.
On 04/03/2011 20:50, Ron Hutchings wrote:
Now that you have backed me in a corner, I remember that the READ supported
THEN and ELSE. There were a couple of constructs that only had ELSE that had
THEN added.
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On 04/03/11 20:10, Ron Hutchings wrote:
I am not crazy about IF (condition) ELSE logic but the compiler supports it.
The versions of Information I was on did not support THEN on the reads until
the 90s. Once it was available we jumped on it.
Exactly.
I've only ever really used INFORMATION
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