Am Dienstag 06 März 2007 schrieb Tobias Pflug:
> If I might add my impression:
>
> Generally I think it is indeed quite likable. Just some thoughts :
>
> Looking at :
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_editor/Vim/TipsSandbox/Tip_1:_
>the_super_star
Hello,
The first thing I noticed it
Am Dienstag 06 März 2007 schrieb Tobias Pflug:
> If I might add my impression:
>
> Generally I think it is indeed quite likable. Just some thoughts :
>
> Looking at :
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_editor/Vim/TipsSandbox/Tip_1:_
>the_super_star
Hello,
The first thing I noticed it
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:29:35 +0100
Tobias Pflug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looking at :
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_editor/Vim/TipsSandbox/Tip_1:_the_super_star
>
> my thoughts:
>
> 1. focus/structure:
>
> At the moment there is a bit of a lack of focus when I look at the
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 11:03:46AM +0100, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
> John Beckett wrote:
> >Brian McKee wrote:
> >>One of the first things I was thinking about mirrors the above comments.
> >>http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Talk:Learning_the_vi_editor/Vim/
> >>TipsSandbox/Tip_1:_the_super_star has a bun
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 08:39:23PM +1100, John Beckett wrote:
> Paul Irofti wrote:
> >Back-ups are better made on the server side. For mediawiki a regular
> >sqldump (maybe added in crontab) is all that is necessary.
>
> Good. But can we actually do that? I thought we were planning
> to use a syst
Hello,
John Beckett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
> > Moving the tip body to a wiki page and the comments to its talk page can
> > (IIUC) be automated. /Then/ the tip author (or maintainer, etc.) can
> > archive the talk page, remove empty comments (of the "great tip" kind),
A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
Moving the tip body to a wiki page and the comments to its talk page can
(IIUC) be automated. /Then/ the tip author (or maintainer, etc.) can
archive the talk page, remove empty comments (of the "great tip" kind),
refactor useful comments into the tip body, etc.
My feeli
John Beckett wrote:
Brian McKee wrote:
One of the first things I was thinking about mirrors the above comments.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Talk:Learning_the_vi_editor/Vim/
TipsSandbox/Tip_1:_the_super_star has a bunch of "thanks for the
great tip!" type comments with more useage info inters
Paul Irofti wrote:
Back-ups are better made on the server side. For mediawiki a regular
sqldump (maybe added in crontab) is all that is necessary.
Good. But can we actually do that? I thought we were planning
to use a system where we have no access to the server except
via a wiki interface.
Jo
A few fundamental decisions need to be made so the conversion script
can produce a result that minimises future effort.
How will tips be found? Can there be a contents page? If so, the
script should generate a suitable list, perhaps for hand-tweaking.
Currently, the URL of the sample tip has for
Brian McKee wrote:
One of the first things I was thinking about mirrors the above comments.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Talk:Learning_the_vi_editor/Vim/
TipsSandbox/Tip_1:_the_super_star has a bunch of "thanks for the
great tip!" type comments with more useage info interspersed. I
think th
Denis Perelyubskiy wrote:
why don't we discuss that here:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Talk:Learning_the_vi_editor/Vim/TipsSandbox/Tip_1:_the_super_star
:-)
You and I started talking on that discussion page. I just wanted to say
(to everyone) that now I think all comments would be better made h
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 06:45:51PM +1100, John Beckett wrote:
> Tom Purl wrote:
> >I looked into the anti-spam features of Wikibooks, and they basically do
> >the basics: blacklists for abusers and easy rollbacks. So the top 2% of
> >spammers/vandalizers will be blocked, and it will be easy for th
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:23:41 -0800, "Diwaker Gupta"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
[snip]
> IMHO, the best solution is to setup a blog. There are several free
> Wordpress based blog services. There are several free Wordpress
> plugins to implement rating for posts, most popular posts and such.
> Comment
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 at 12:34pm, Denis Perelyubskiy wrote:
>
> On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:31:53 -0700, "Steve Hall"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > From: Hari Krishna Dara, Tue, March 06, 2007 11:33 am
> > > and if we can enforce a fixed style on commenting such that the
> > > comments don't look like
My apologies for barging in this discussion this late. However, I
wanted to make sure all alternatives are being given a fair chance. It
seems that wikibooks.org is the most popular choice. I just want to
throw out a couple of other free, hosted Wiki alternatives for people
to look at:
o http://p
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:24:09 -0800, "Denis Perelyubskiy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
[snip]
> so, i propose we move to agreeing what the format should be.
..and after thinking about this a bit more:
- format?
- karma/rating (i think someone already brought it up). How do we do
this here? The use se
h 2007 08:31
> > > Cc: Vim Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: VimTips Wiki: New Direction
> > >
> > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:18:13 +0200, Ali Polatel wrote:
> > > > And check out
> > > > http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_editor/Vim/
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:00:30 -0600 (CST), "Tom Purl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> On Tue, March 6, 2007 2:34 pm, Denis Perelyubskiy wrote:
> > Finally, on the subject of converting the comments - it is entirely a
> > manual process, that can not be automated. Comments need to be
> > integrated into
On Tue, March 6, 2007 2:34 pm, Denis Perelyubskiy wrote:
> Finally, on the subject of converting the comments - it is entirely a
> manual process, that can not be automated. Comments need to be
> integrated into the body of the main tip (maybe the tip needs to be
> adjusted, reworded, etc). We sh
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On 6-Mar-07, at 3:34 PM, Denis Perelyubskiy wrote:
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:31:53 -0700, "Steve Hall"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
From: Hari Krishna Dara, Tue, March 06, 2007 11:33 am
and if we can enforce a fixed style on commenting such that the
c
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:31:53 -0700, "Steve Hall"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> From: Hari Krishna Dara, Tue, March 06, 2007 11:33 am
> > and if we can enforce a fixed style on commenting such that the
> > comments don't look like a mess. I would imagine that one needs to
> > edit the tip to add thei
From: Hari Krishna Dara, Tue, March 06, 2007 11:33 am
>
> My only concern is on how we are planning to support the existing
> rating system going forward
I don't see how this can be accomplished in a wiki, but on the plus
side we'll be able to categorize and structure the tips better, as
well as
Hari Krishna Dara wrote:
[...]
I have been reading posts on this subject with interest and think that
this is going to be a good decision. My only concern is on how we are
planning to support the existing rating system going forward and if we
can enforce a fixed style on commenting such that the
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* Zdenek Sekera ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Spencer Collyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 06 March 2007 08:31
> > Cc: Vim Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: VimTips Wiki: New Di
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 at 1:26pm, Tom Purl wrote:
> Here's my view of "where we are" regarding the Vim Tips wiki conversion
> project:
>
> 1. The Google wiki seems to be a poor option due to the difficulty
>involved in registering.
> 2. Multiple other wiki engines have been discussed, and the cle
> -Original Message-
> From: Spencer Collyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 March 2007 08:31
> Cc: Vim Mailing List
> Subject: Re: VimTips Wiki: New Direction
>
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:18:13 +0200, Ali Polatel wrote:
> > And check out
>
Tom Purl wrote:
I looked into the anti-spam features of Wikibooks, and they basically do
the basics: blacklists for abusers and easy rollbacks. So the top 2% of
spammers/vandalizers will be blocked, and it will be easy for the admins
to roll back the problems created by the outher 98%.
Wikiboo
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:18:13 +0200, Ali Polatel wrote:
> And check out
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_editor/Vim/TipsSandbox
> to see how it parsed tip #1.
Looks good. Only comment I have is it might be better if the 'By' and
'On' lines for the comments were on the same line. Anythi
>> Bram Mooleanaar summarized:
>>
>> I'm still a bit worried about spammers, since that is what broke down
>> the current tip collection. Perhaps someone can look into this, so that
>> the scripts we use for conversion do the right thing?
>
> I looked into the anti-spam features of Wikibooks, and
Ali Polatel said:
>> 2. Convert one tip and post the output on the TipsSandbox page listed
>>above.
>
> I converted vimtips.py , you can find it at google svn:
> http://vimtips.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/scripts/vimtips.py
> (at least we can still use svn right ;)
>
> And check out
> http://en.w
> Bram Mooleanaar summarized:
>
> I'm still a bit worried about spammers, since that is what broke down
> the current tip collection. Perhaps someone can look into this, so that
> the scripts we use for conversion do the right thing?
I looked into the anti-spam features of Wikibooks, and they bas
> Would you please give me an url or something so I may learn the
> Wikipedia markup?
:) Easier said than done. I've actually had problems finding a complete
list in the past. Here's the best resource I could find:
* http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Markup
Also, please note that there
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Hi everyone,
* Tom Purl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Here's my view of "where we are" regarding the Vim Tips wiki conversion
> project:
>
> 1. The Google wiki seems to be a poor option due to the difficulty
>involved in registering.
Yeah it also
Tom Purl summarized:
> Here's my view of "where we are" regarding the Vim Tips wiki conversion
> project:
>
> 1. The Google wiki seems to be a poor option due to the difficulty
>involved in registering.
> 2. Multiple other wiki engines have been discussed, and the clear
>favorite seems t
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On 5-Mar-07, at 2:26 PM, Tom Purl wrote:
Here's my view of "where we are" regarding the Vim Tips wiki
conversion
project:
{snippage}
Seems about right to me Tom!
6. A group of wiki superusers will inspect 50 random tips and make
sure
that
Here's my view of "where we are" regarding the Vim Tips wiki conversion
project:
1. The Google wiki seems to be a poor option due to the difficulty
involved in registering.
2. Multiple other wiki engines have been discussed, and the clear
favorite seems to be a site built on top of the Media
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