Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2015-01-18 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:15:45 -0500: Hi, [snip] We do not yet know what sort of ash Ni-H cold fusion reactions produce. If Storms is correct, the ash is deuterium which is impossible to detect with this configuration. ...just for the sake of comparison, the

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: And how do we even know this is cold fusion? There is no chemical fuel in the cell, so assuming the heat is real, cold fusion is the only likely source of heat. Also, it resembles many other cold fusion reactors. I think you are the one that

RE: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-30 Thread Jones Beene
From: Blaze Spinnaker Ø And how do we even know this is cold fusion? I think you are the one that is leaping to conclusions here. Maybe wait for some kind of ash analysis first... Yes that is wise. Any and all pronouncements from the sidelines should await isotope analysis, since

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-30 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
I am saying that *IF* X is true, Y and Z follow. IF the measurements are correct, it follows that this is probably cold fusion, and IF it is cold fusion, it will often continue indefinitely until you quench it. And this is how you think lenr science should be done?

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-30 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Also, as I have explained many many times my one estimate is just one guess of the jelly beans in the jelkybeanjar. You need a lot of guessers to get something accurate. Preferably folks with a history of being able to guess accurately. I refuse to let the fact that no one else has the courage

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Also, as I have explained many many times my one estimate is just one guess of the jelly beans in the jelkybeanjar. You need a lot of guessers to get something accurate. Or, you need one person who makes the effort to understand the technical

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-30 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Well, your idea of science is to make speculative leaps / assumptions. On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Also, as I have explained many many times my one estimate is just one guess of the jelly beans in

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: In fact with no radioactivity, this looks as much like a version of a fractional hydrogen reaction - f/H – as nuclear. Isotope analysis could move it into the LENR camp - but as of now, no conclusion is justified. There is never much radioactivity from

[Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-29 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
I'm assuming this is just nonsense but some of the patho-skeptics are claiming that the russian report would have to produce dry steam in order to reach the energy levels he's claiming. While I'm still very skeptical, and his COP numbers have already been proven to be nonsense, I would assume

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-29 Thread ChemE Stewart
Steam Quality1000.950.90.850.8Deg C1,2901,290 1,2901,2901,290min4040404040W498498498498498J (Elec) 1,195,200 1,195,200 1,195,200 1,195,200 1,195,200kg Water (Evap) 1.21.141.0260.87210.69768J (Evap) 2,712,000 2,576,400

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: I'm assuming this is just nonsense but some of the patho-skeptics are claiming that the russian report would have to produce dry steam in order to reach the energy levels he's claiming. If you assume the results are in error, they would have to

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-29 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
No, they have not. This is your imagination. The COP numbers don't include the ramp up to 1000. Stoyan pointed this out as well. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: I'm assuming this is just nonsense

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-29 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Thanks chem e .. Very informative. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Steam Quality1000.950.90.850.8Deg C1,2901,290 1,2901,2901,290min4040404040W498498498498498J (Elec) 1,195,200 1,195,200

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-29 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Don't get me wrong, the results are interesting for sure. The COP is making huge assumptions that the excess energy would continue. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: No, they have not. This is your imagination. The COP numbers don't include

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Don't get me wrong, the results are interesting for sure. The COP is making huge assumptions that the excess energy would continue. No, those are not huge assumptions. The excess heat in cold fusion has often continued, sometimes for weeks or

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-29 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Jed -- I'm simply taking Stoyan's comment, verified it to make sure I understood what he was saying, and repeated it. If you want to call Stoyan ignorant and arrogant, be my guest.. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Blaze Spinnaker

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-29 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y3Bxr_aE2iosEKpGFUZiQgAcuT8AFN78RFCAlR-JqNw/edit On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnakerblazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Note by translator Stoyan Sarg: The initial heating power and temperature before reaching 1C is not shown in the plot of

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-29 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
And how do we even know this is cold fusion? I think you are the one that is leaping to conclusions here. Maybe wait for some kind of ash analysis first... On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Dry Steam versus Wet Steam

2014-12-29 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
I will say, though Jed, kudos for expressing such confidence in an experiment so easily replicated. You really are putting your reputation and credibility on the line here in a way that is very impressive. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: And