[Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Eddy Paine
Hi, While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only Staff can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the correct place to post this. I feel that the staff images on the Foundation site should show the staff in a good way where nobody can have a problem with

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 9, Issue 27 -- 10 July 2013

2013-07-12 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Wikimedia Board appoints world expert in women's issues, global south http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-07-10/News_and_notes Op-ed: It's time to stop pretending the English-language Wikinews is a viable project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Hydriz Scholz
Hi, a few things... On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Eddy Paine wrote: > Hi, > While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only Staff > can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the correct > place to post this. > There are volunteers that can also edit the W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Dan Rosenthal
I don't see any problem with it. I'm not sure how it is somehow more unprofessional than "absentee" (for lack of a better term) pictures being labeled "Cloak of invisibility?" Or the picture of Rory as "mascot"? Further, what does "all but neutral" mean? Really, aren't there better things to do t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Dan Rosenthal wrote: > Or the picture of Rory as "mascot"? The real issue here is that the Legal Department has a stuffed animal mascot, while WMF engineering/product has absolutely no animals of any kind. I would put up a photograph of Tux, but I'm worried Rory w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Eddy Paine
Dan, A placeholder for people without pictures shouldn't be a problem. Thats common use. And they are all the same so thats a OK thing. The picture of Rory is a picture of Rory. It even says its a mascot and I agree with Erik we need Tux for Engineering. And no, we are not in the 1950's but a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Christophe Henner
Funny thing is, at my work I'm trying to get my staff to take crazy picture for our public staff page. Pictures with stupid/crazy objects, cosplaying, playing games, etc. Because I believe my staff are not well represented by ID Card photos (those are great for passports, but to provide an insight

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Dan Rosenthal
You realize we have a page on Tattoos that shows just how prevalent they are throughout the world, yes? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattoo Also, I think you missed my sarcasm about Rory and the invisibility cloak. They're non-issues, just as Brandon's photo is a non-issue. -Dan Dan Rosenthal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Jon Davies
We are not Coopers and Lybrand - we are real people. If somebody really objects to an image then their complaint should be taken seriously but let's not try and second guess the world. Jon Davies - WMUK PS I am trying to get my staff to take photos where they don't all appear to be a bit crazed..

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 July 2013 09:02, Dan Rosenthal wrote: > Really, aren't there better things to do than play morality police because > someone "might" be upset about some ink? This isn't the 1950's. Who is > upset, and why? DFTT. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 12 July 2013 09:11, Erik Moeller wrote: > The real issue here is that the Legal Department has a stuffed animal > mascot, while WMF engineering/product has absolutely no animals of any > kind. I would put up a photograph of Tux, but I'm worried Rory will > eat him. > If you're going to add a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Strainu
2013/7/12 Thehelpfulone : > On 12 July 2013 09:11, Erik Moeller wrote: > >> The real issue here is that the Legal Department has a stuffed animal >> mascot, while WMF engineering/product has absolutely no animals of any >> kind. I would put up a photograph of Tux, but I'm worried Rory will >> eat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Craig Franklin
I think what's really offensive here is the implication that having a tat means that you're not professional. I don't have any ink myself, but I respect the choice of those who do. To be honest, I like the occasionally goofy pictures and profiles on the WMF staff page; it shows that there are rea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Oliver Keyes
What Craig said. I can think of 3 staffers on my *team* with tattoos. If people have a problem with ink - more accurately, if we have people who are willing to judge the worth, value and professionalism of others based purely on the presence of tattoos - I don't particularly mind how we come off to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Eddy Paine
Hi, I didn't say that people with thats are not proffesionals. I have multiple myself also. I am saying that the page has a lay-out with pictures that all fit together and are specially made for that page. I believe you shouldn't destroy the lay-out or style by adding "personal" pictures. Othe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Oliver Keyes
Sure; there are countries with taboos around, for example, tattoos. However, given that we run many encyclopaedias containing articles on pretty much everything, taboo or no taboo (including ink!), anyone easily offended is /going/ to be. There's a saying about horses and doors that applies here.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Huib Laurens
Its more like making a statement on your official homepage. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > Sure; there are countries with taboos around, for example, tattoos. > However, given that we run many encyclopaedias containing articles on > pretty much everything, taboo or no ta

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread FastLizard4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [Replies inline with quoted message(s)] On 7/12/2013 4:10 AM PDT, Eddy Paine wrote: > ...and there are still enough countries where tats are not accepted yet. So > it can be wise to try to minimise the things on pictures that can be > offensive for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Michel Castelo Branco
There are countries where women showing her shoulders or nude head are not accepted yet. I think the staff should complaint only about what is accepted where they are (so they wont be arrested). Castelo Branco Em 12/07/2013, às 08:10, Eddy Paine escreveu: Hi, I didn't say that people with

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia engineering June 2013 report

2013-07-12 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, The report covering Wikimedia engineering activities in June 2013 is now available. Wiki version: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2013/June Blog version: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/12/engineering-june-2013-report/ We're also proposing a shorter, simpler an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Oliver Keyes
On 12 July 2013 14:01, Michel Castelo Branco wrote: > There are countries where women showing her shoulders or nude head are not > accepted yet. I think the staff should complaint only about what is > accepted where they are (so they wont be arrested). > > Tattoos fine, leaking PRISM details bad.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 07/12/2013 07:10 AM, Eddy Paine wrote: > Secondly we are a world wide organisation, and there are still enough > countries where tats are not accepted yet. Then surely, we must err on the side of conservatism! Let's make certain that every woman on staff has a picture in a burka. -- Marc _

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Ivan Martínez
It is the twenty-first century and people like me have tattooed the logo of Wikipedia in the arm. It's considered wrong for conservatives too? 2013/7/12 Oliver Keyes > On 12 July 2013 14:01, Michel Castelo Branco > wrote: > > > There are countries where women showing her shoulders or nude head

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Rory
First, I want to make clear that I express no opinion on the ink conversation. I respect the diverse points of views in our community. I understand that everyone has their own stripes. That said, I am deeply saddened and frankly shocked by allegations voiced by certain people in this thread that s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Cynthia Ashley-Nelson
Stripes. Yeah, right. Clearly, Rory is wearing tats of their own. Totally covered in 'em! I'm calling foul. "Delicious, organic friends"... I wanna see a photo of Tux to verify life. Something's not right here. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Rory wrote: > First, I want to make clear that I e

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Michael Snow
On 7/12/2013 3:22 PM, Rory wrote: I am really hungry now. (I’m not allowed to eat legal interns anymore.[4]) Tux, let’s get together soon, real soon, maybe over lunch. Rory, if you're that desperate, may I suggest you scrounge around in your slippers? I'm sure you could find some tasty crumbs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread phoebe ayers
And what happened to 'assume good flavor'... I mean faith! Assume Good Faith! I am sure that Rory has only the best intentions. But it is true that his message could be misinterpreted. I think we should all take a step back and try our very best not to eat each other. I'm sure that if they don't m

[Wikimedia-l] The GAC wants you!

2013-07-12 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello, everyone. We could use some fresh b--- er, volunteers! -- in the Grant Advisory Committee (GAC). As you may know, the GAC are community volunteers who are explicitly invited[1] to review and evaluate grant proposals made in the Wikimedia Foundation Grants Program[2], and offer advice to bo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:54 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > And what happened to 'assume good flavor'... I mean faith! Assume Good > Faith! I am sure that Rory has only the best intentions. But it is true > that his message could be misinterpreted. > > I think we should all take a step back and try ou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] WMF response to PRISM?

2013-07-12 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:07 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Would publicizing these free and open secure alternatives to commercial > applications known to be under surveillance -- https://prism-break.org/ -- > be sufficiently aligned with out values? Our values? ... Our practise. No. SSL is mandat