Re: [WISPA] Lightning Protection

2006-02-16 Thread JohnnyO
The only reason I asked this and think it's funny - *no offense intended* is b/c one of my techs did an install like this - Apparently when the tower got struck by lightning - the enclosure exploded due to the discharge ring on the supressor inside of the box... I mean literally exploded. I had

[WISPA] Lightning Protection

2006-02-16 Thread JohnnyO
Does is really do any good to have the supressor inside of the enclosure grounded to everything inside ? I thought the suppressor was supposed to go straight to ground ? http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5529.jpg Can someone clarify - I think we've been doing this wrong all of these y

[WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-16 Thread JohnnyO
Are we all able to use the WISPA logo like this ? http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5548.jpg Also - came across this post on tower talk , figured we all may be able to learn a little bit about house cleaning from this. Who is Bob Smith ? *Bob Smith Wrote* HI All, I'm a wireless netw

Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation

2006-02-16 Thread Mac Dearman
I to can kick in some experience here! I mounted an omni one time on top of a building on a tripod. I shoved the Omni as high as I could reach to push it up(hehehehe not to high) on the mast and tightened it down. The omni was not as tall as the mast and was mounted about 3" off the mast. I che

Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation

2006-02-16 Thread JohnnyO
Take my word also - We fought our 900mhz links for weeks until we moved 36inches away from the tower - even at 30inches you'll be kickin yerself in the arse. For 2.4ghz - I've seen issues with anything less then 18inches of seperation from a tower. JohnnyO On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 21:42 -0

Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation

2006-02-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
I can tell you from experience, mounting it at 6 inches is not a good idea. We did that once, in a rush job, when the climbers were there and mounting hardware was not. Definate holes in coverage were identified after the fact. The answer of how far from the tower, is also a factor of how big y

Re: Re[2]: [WISPA] 900 yagi

2006-02-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
I recently was showed a Ashtron. They don't have the high gain of 17dbi like the M2s. But they are really nice from a stability point of view. Their clamps are MUCH better than the M2s, and will stay aligned in place much better. Did the plastic bag help? I would thing that it were help hold sn

Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
I do not necessarilly think that the quality of WISPCON has degraded that much. Its more that the attendee WISP base has matured, and looking for new attractions, and new shows have popped up to attract them.  Once a WISP has went to WISPCON 3-4 times in a row, they start trying shows that o

Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation

2006-02-16 Thread Rick Smith
actually, at 900 mhz, 36" is preferred. On one tower, with trango, using an OD9-11 (11 dbi vert omni), I saw 8-10 db improvements in my customer connections that were NLOS when I moved the antenna out from 24" to 36" Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've always been taught that 18" is the min

Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact

2006-02-16 Thread Carl A Jeptha
ok will look around You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer wrote: A. Look through the archives for Cindy Lee. I might still have her contact info somewhere if you can't find it

Re: [WISPA] bandwidth

2006-02-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
I wanted to confirm... 5.4-5.7GHz is running at the same specifications as 5.3Ghz, right? Meaning 30db EIRP max, and Point to point rule does not apply? Only difference, they require ATC and DFS? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?

2006-02-16 Thread Dylan Oliver
Tom, I was just searching back through my gmail archives for 'customer acquisition' and found your message. I was impressed by your insight then, and it's striking to read it again. Would you mind taking a look at business plan and projections? Thanks again for all your excellent advice ..On 8/2

RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot

2006-02-16 Thread robert maier
Just a little info it all started for the the government going from building to building, this was their primary link , they were not using it for redundancy.  After a trial period, they decided they wanted to go to the V.I and so to the top of the mountain we went El junke and to the top of recove

RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot

2006-02-16 Thread G.Villarini
Robert, care to share about this link in PR, we are a local wisp and we havnt heard of it…. Were in PR are you guys shooting from ?   Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot

2006-02-16 Thread robert maier
Working for another company at the time I thought we were hot when we got a 32 mile link going using cm9 802.11 karlnet software stuff this was out in Nebraska going from one center silo to two end silos all PTP,  then came the 50+ link down in the caribbean still works great to this day goes from

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot

2006-02-16 Thread Scott Reed
Client or AP, or both? I have 2 MT/CM9 client to Deliberant 1300 AP at 9.3 to 9.5 miles.  Rock solid. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: JohnnyO <[EMAIL

[WISPA] Ordering Trango Atlas Foxes

2006-02-16 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
If anyone is interested in splitting a 30pak of Trango Atlas fox units with me, hit me off-list. - Cliff   -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

[WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot

2006-02-16 Thread JohnnyO
What is the longest 2.4ghz shot using Mikrotik and SR2s or CM9s does anyone have working ? Curious JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] bandwidth

2006-02-16 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Heya Brad, Let me be sure I heard that right. The band is ready and you guys are shipping 5.4 gig gear into the USA? marlon - Original Message - From: "Brad Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:58 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth

Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation

2006-02-16 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I've always been taught that 18" is the minimum. marlon   - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:12 AM Subject: [WISPA] omni tower separation Is 6 inches enough separation with a 9db omn

Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact

2006-02-16 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
A. Look through the archives for Cindy Lee. I might still have her contact info somewhere if you can't find it in the archives. marlon - Original Message - From: "Carl A Jeptha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:17 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation

2006-02-16 Thread Blair Davis
Well, I just changed one from 8 inch sep to 24 inch sep yesterday. I got a 5db improvement on most of the clients and a 2 db drop in noise levels YMMV Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is 6 inches enough separation with a 9db omni from a 25g tower?, I’ve done

RE: [WISPA] bandwidth

2006-02-16 Thread G.Villarini
You know that gear doesn't comply with fcc... and they are also selling it overpriced ... Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhaus

[WISPA] omni tower separation

2006-02-16 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Is 6 inches enough separation with a 9db omni from a 25g tower?, I’ve done it with 12 before and I had no problems, just wondering what 6 would do.   Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com   -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@

RE: [WISPA] bandwidth

2006-02-16 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Buy from someone that imports 5.4 moto from overseas and resells. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Villarini Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:4

[WISPA] contract

2006-02-16 Thread chris cooper
I have a multi-location, multi meg prospective client that needs a contract on the fly. Anybody have one they would let me take a peek at/borrow from? Chris Intelliwave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archive

Re: [WISPA] CB3 to Tranzeo 6000

2006-02-16 Thread Jason Hensley
Yes on the Deluxe.  Yes on the firmware.     - Original Message - From: Anthony Morin To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CB3 to Tranzeo 6000 Is it a CB3 deluxe? I couldn't get the older CB3's to connect

Re: [WISPA] bandwidth

2006-02-16 Thread A. Huppenthal
Trango makes a backhaul unit in the 5.4 space, I wonder if they are now legal. Any Trango rep here? Brad Larson wrote: Alvarion. Brad Brad Larson Northeast Regional Manager Alvarion 965 Rakestraw Rd Montoursville, PA 17754 Phone 570-433-4608 Cell 570-419-0029 Fax 570-433-4603 -Origi

RE: [WISPA] bandwidth

2006-02-16 Thread Brad Larson
Alvarion. Brad Brad Larson Northeast Regional Manager Alvarion 965 Rakestraw Rd Montoursville, PA 17754 Phone 570-433-4608 Cell 570-419-0029 Fax 570-433-4603 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:05 PM To: 'WISPA Ge

Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact

2006-02-16 Thread Carl A Jeptha
Canadian version of your FCC. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer wrote: what's crtc? marlon - Original Message - From: "Carl A Jeptha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA Gene

RE: [WISPA] bandwidth

2006-02-16 Thread G.Villarini
AFAIK, they are not shipping to US only international cause the FCC has not defined the DFS mechanism yet... Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

Re: [WISPA] Motel setup

2006-02-16 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
G isn't reliable because it is set to back off and not interfere with any other type of 2.4 ghz equipment. This makes G have less throughput in an outdoor environment than B, even though the data rate is dramatically higher. If you could set the threshold in G, or just completely kill that behavi

Re: [WISPA] RADIUS + StarOS + bandwidth ?

2006-02-16 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
So, No, it won't actually work if you're not using PPPOE, but just radius authentication and access control... It only works for PPPOE and hotspot? North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net

Re: [WISPA] RADIUS + StarOS + bandwidth ?

2006-02-16 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Yes, for PPPoE and Hotspot. You also have to merge in the dictionary. Lonnie On 2/15/06, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: > > The tag was named, descriptively, for the first application it was > > intended for. The thing about radius attributes, is they are ju