Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-07 Thread Dennis Burgess
<http://www.linktechs.net> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 4:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection A WISP doesn't own (or lease) everywhere. A compa

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Mike Hammett
: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:00:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection ...but the deauth attack is the best way to capture the handshake!?? How are we supposed to get the WPA key without the handshake?? On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > w

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Jeremy
ok. >> If you have a very deep back pocket you can try and get it in front of a >> judge and argue the merits but they >> tend to defer to the regulators. >> >> Larry Ash >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Int

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Sean Heskett
, sure you can tell them to turn it off or > >leave, but that’s another issue. lol > > > > > > Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. > > den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net > > > > > > > >From: wireless-boun..

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Blair Davis
- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection While I understand yo

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread lar
uting Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > - Original Message - > >From: "Dennis Burgess" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09:47 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection > > > > While I

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Tim Way
> > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > -- > *From: *"Dennis Burgess" > *To: *"WISPA General List" > *Sent: *Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09:47 PM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Ro

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection While I understand your r

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
ireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Way Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection In our corporate environment we have a Cisco wireless environment (indoors) and we match that with Cisco Prime for things like heat maps, rogue

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
5-0270 – www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection What would be your take if their

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
, January 06, 2015 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection I got dibs on linksys and NETGEAR1-NETGEAR99 :) On 01/06/2015 03:16 PM, Scott Piehn wrote: What would be your take if their AP uses the same SSID as yours. Assuming Ruckus etc can knock o

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Tim Way
In our corporate environment we have a Cisco wireless environment (indoors) and we match that with Cisco Prime for things like heat maps, rogue AP detection, and tracking wireless devices that are associated among other features. http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/technology/roguedetect

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Sam Tetherow
:* Dennis Burgess <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09 PM *To:* WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection While I understand your reasoning, I would disagree. If you could do this, for the security o

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Scott Piehn
: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection While I understand your reasoning, I would disagree. If you could do this, for the security of a WISP, we will shut down all Access Points via Deauth attack that my Access Points can see. Also note, I am not talking for the FCC, but for what I believe is

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection There is no mention of a blanket refusal. In the FCC citation, the fact that they're charging for Internet access is brought up every time the deauthing activity is. https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Mike Hammett
st" Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 11:43:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection You cannot do it at all…. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-bo

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection You can do it all day long within your own company. Marriott was doing it to force people to give them money. A company doing it has plenty of other reasons. -

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
ent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection Ok Dennis you said the same in a later post From: Tim Kerns <mailto:t...@cv-access.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:08 AM To: WISPA General List <mail

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
n Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection Looks like detection is ok. Containment is not. On the containment side. Is there a way to contain in only the following two situations SSID is s

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Tim Kerns
Ok Dennis you said the same in a later post From: Tim Kerns Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection Dennis, I think you are taking this to literal. I have the right to detect and prohibit any wireless access point

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Scott Piehn
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection Nov of last year! http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/travel/marriott-fcc-wi-fi-fine/ Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Mike Hammett
: "Tim Kerns" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 11:08:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection Dennis, I think you are taking this to literal. I have the right to detect and prohibit any wireless access point that is “connected”

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Tim Kerns
: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection Yep, you do not control the airwaves in your business, therefor you cannot interfere with any “access point” that conforms with Part-15. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net From: wireless

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Mike Hammett
9:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection There are two things that you need to think of and I’m sure different vendors call it different things, so let me go in depth on this. One method is to find a access point that has been plugged into the switching system of a network. Th

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Mike Hammett
rgess" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:05:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection Note that many of these systems (rather rogue AP prevention) have been deemed illegal by the FCC, a hotel chain was fined 600k I think due to it.

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
..@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Albert Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection This article goes back a few years but should help to frame this discussion. http://www.theruckusroom.net/2010/

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
<mailto:den...@linktechs.net> – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Albert Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoi

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Eric Albert
ter > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:10 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection > > > > a public place such as a hotel chain vs my private business where I needed > to be able to control the wifi and keep things like wifi

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
<http://www.linktechs.net> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adair Winter Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection a public place such as a hotel chain vs my private business wh

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
, January 06, 2015 10:16 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: drund...@computerdyn.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection o Thanks for the info. will pose that question to the auditor - Scott M Piehn From: De

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Eric Albert
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net >> >> >> >> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Scott Piehn >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:49 AM >> *To:* WISPA General List >> *Su

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Scott Piehn
o Thanks for the info. will pose that question to the auditor - Scott M Piehn From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection Note that many of

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Adair Winter
ilto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On > Behalf Of *Scott Piehn > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:49 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection > > > > I have a customer that is being required to get rogue access point > detection.

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection I have a customer that is being required to get rogue access point detection. not a one time thing but ongoing detection. What

[WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Scott Piehn
I have a customer that is being required to get rogue access point detection. not a one time thing but ongoing detection. What products have people used. - Scott M Piehn ___ Wireless mailing l