nce in Zope all expressions " " are evaluated as Python syntax
expressions.
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that GUF is good.
>Can anyone explain ZClasses? Where's all the code? Is that the future of
>Zope?
There is a guide to ZClasses as well as a tutorial published by beehive.
>Just hoping to find the road. Thanks a lot!
Me too, but I am sure you will. Feel free to contact me any time
the end I like my good looking
object-oriented Python code. :)
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> )">
>
Try:
>
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hat is typical Python syntax. So in case you want to know why and how that
works, read a little in the Python documentation (which is btw excellent.)
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work well. I have to update it somewhen...saying
that for 6 month now.
But I really willI promise :)
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ve you many answers.
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also like to know, who would be able to come, so I can give the
Linuxtag staff some feedback.
Here are some subjects I thought we could have: The ZDP Portal (Maik
Roeder, ), XML in Zope (I know Martijn F. did a lot of work there. ;-),
An Introduction to Zope for newbies (Stephan Ric
be awake again [message was sent 1:00 am his
time].
He also just replied that we will have Internet access in the rooms.
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little about
packaging. Are the Distutils really necessary. Zope handles that inside. If
you update the .py files, it updates all the object's instances respectively.
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>I can explain my schema if some of you want to.
Would you like to come to the Linuxtag and talk about it?
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At 12:14 PM 6/6/00 -0400, Ivan Raikov wrote:
>Hey all,
>
>How can I get the current date & time (preferably as a
>DateTime.DateTime object) in DTML? I cannot instantiate a DateTime
>object, because the DateTime module is not imported.
Maybe a lower case 't'.
estions there.
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earn Zope and
Python till you feel comfortable and then redesign your site from scratch,
since Zope's advanced features and object model will allow you to do things
differently (read: The right way!).
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Since you cannot r
looking for speed
holes, please let me know. Do you think it is the DB which could be so slow
and I should cache search results more, are there ZServer/Apache options I
can set or anything else in Zope I should have a look at?
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ignments. It is a little
bit hard to explain, maybe someone else can do a better job.
Here is what you would have to do:
This code is tested and works. But you will see that this is far too
complicated, thats why I would suggest you use a Python Method or an
Eternal Method to solve the is
BTW, please do yourself
a favor and do not run anything serious on Windoze and especially Access. :-)
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ss Zope is winning
acceptance rapidly.
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important methods and wrote my own little scripts on top. It is really
easy. The only difficulty is to keep the Mailman database permissions
straight, since they adjust to the executing user after every access. So
the best is to run Zope and Mailman from the same account.
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permissions. I never fully tested that though.
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so let's use it! It seems like companies
companies only release code, so other people will fix it for them
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import Products.TransparentFolders.TransparentFolderPatch
except: pass # The patch may have been removed.
These lines may not exist, if you did not install the product properly.
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ction,
even though the object was not modified at all. I really would like the
ZODB to never save any of my Products actions. Any ideas?
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ect in the ZODB?
How does that work? That is the C part of Zope and I am not too efficient
with C.
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but I
have no clue how to use itOf course there is no documentation on any
web site or in the Zope code itself
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dapters
for the content component to give it functionality.
Unfortunately, persistent schemas got broken at some point, so the code is not
that useful anymore. I really need to get together with Jim and force him to
fix the problem with me, since I constantly forget what the problem is. ;-)
Re
ask SAMS
whether it would be okay to include parts (with proper reference and
copyright notice) in the online version of the Zope 2 book.
That will not document Five, but some of the component architecture.
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-)
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book covers. Section C has a fairly complex example of a
message board application, complete with simple and containerish content
objects. Other sections of the book cover the development of different
components using filesystem-based development.
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On Tuesday 12 April 2005 11:47, Milos Prudek wrote:
> > Yes. In Zope X3.0 you can only develop filesystem-based Python packages,
> > so in
>
> Well, then your book debuted at number 1 on my book shopping list.
Cool. :-)
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pe 3 does not rely as heavily on the ZMI as Zope 2 and in fact all code is
developed on the filesystem, so in this case it might be better for you.
> 4. Zope 2.7 / 3 ?
I think you should go with Zope 3. Several projects have already successfully
integrated their Pyton code into Zope 3.
Rega
and which ones you do not.
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will
provide CM-related features.
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ard.
Zope 3's SQL script supports DTML and will keep supporting it. However, note
that Zope 3 does not encourage this line of development. Many people dealing
with SQL decide to use sqlos; see http://codespeak.net/z3/.
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ose features.
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opment Web Site":http://dev.zope.org/Zope3
- "Zope 3 Dev Mailing List":http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-dev
- "Zope 3 Users Mailing
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- IRC Channel: #zope3-dev at irc.freenode.net
Acknowledgments
336. Fixed 381.
- Julien Anguenot (anguenot): Fixed 307. (Julien also fixed many bugs in
recent weeks.)
- Garrett Smith (garrett-smith): BBB code removal. Fixed 414.
- Stephan Richter (srichter): Closed 302, 413, 415, 416, 419, 421.
Additionally I want to thank Dmitry Vasiliev (hdima) who was n
pretty much the
same as the 'browser:editform' directive, except that the data is
not stored on some context or adapted context but sent as a dictionary
to special method (by default).
For a complete list of changes see the 'CHANGES.txt' file.
Resources
- "Zope 3
TAL.
Zope 2's I18n TAL support was ported from Zope 3, which means that it is the
same.
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The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.1.0 candidate 2.
Zope 3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based
on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2.
It is in our opinion that Zope 3.1 is more than ready for production use,
wh
The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.1.0 candidate 3.
Zope 3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based
on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2.
It is in our opinion that Zope 3.1 is more than ready for production use,
wh
Hello everyone,
The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.1.0 final.
Zope 3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based
on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2.
It is in our opinion that Zope 3.1 is more than ready for product
3.2 or the trunk then you can download
the zope.wfmc and zope.app.wfmc packages from the repository, which are
activity-based workflows a la WfMC too.
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The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.2.0 beta 2.
Zope 3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based
on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2.
It is our opinion that Zope 3 is more than ready for production use,
which is why
Hello everyone,
The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.2.0.
Zope 3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based
on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2.
It is our opinion that Zope 3 is more than ready for production use,
wh
e use Wing IDE, Eclipse and Boa Constructor. Of course, if you
use KDE, then Kate is a nice option as well.
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up the
> stack - arguably those components which should be "Plone" components still.
I would never try to do this.
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7; repository, getting to LISTED level would be automatic.
Becoming listed will be a nearly automated process. Also receiving level 1 and
2 will be quick decisions. This is clearly stated in section 2.8.
I have added a questions to the Q&A section clearly stating that the ZSCP does
not requi
over and over again. If you find that anything in the document contradicts
those 3 points above, let me know! I am very interested in fixing those type
of "bugs"! :-)
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d library. Since
zope.interface is ZPL and Python has its license, you need to change that. If
you do not have a contributor agreement that assigns half of the rights to an
organization, then you have to ask *all* developers whether the license
change is okay. If you cannot find a developer anymor
ches...
Very good summary. Better than mine. :-)
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Okay, this discussion is off-topic. I will not respond to it, unless I read
about something that relates directly to the proposal.
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ason of the warning.
This way we can use the existing communication channels (mailing list and
IRC) for feedback and still have a way to formalize feedback. I guess in this
case we would also need a "resolve" action that could resolve a warning.
What do you think?
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ZSCP for some packages there :).
That would be very cool! :-)
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true. Phillip and I both negated this assertion. Where did you read
this? The quotes you had earlier were totally out of context. Nothing in
Section 2 requires anything of section 3.
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or how software moves
> from the primordial ooze to canon.
Well said.
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added a section right at the beginning of section to communicate the
separation better.
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designed in a way that up to level 2 most of
the tasks can be automated. Thus it should only require some human
interaction. We have to try, otherwise we will not know.
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to be an issue with the debugger not displaying anything, since
doctests mess with stdout and that has been fixed. This is what Benji and I
were talking about.
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does not work. Every
doctest line is its own expression. I personally can live with that
limitation. As I said, I have never needed this.
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On Thursday 23 February 2006 13:37, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> Not to mention, doctests are not debuggable from WingIDE.
Maybe we should have a WingIDE sprint in Boston at some point. This would be a
good topic.
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and provide it via its
site.
So, I take it that you are a second voter in favor of not requiring all tests
to be doctests.
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On Thursday 23 February 2006 17:18, Chris McDonough wrote:
> On Feb 23, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Stephan Richter wrote:
> > So, I take it that you are a second voter in favor of not requiring
> > all tests
> > to be doctests.
>
> If the ZSCP thing takes off, I thin
On Thursday 16 March 2006 18:06, David Bear wrote:
> this happens when I run make test as root as well.
Don't run tests as root. I thought the test produces a warning when run as
root, mhh.
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Hello everyone,
The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.3.0 beta 1.
Zope 3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based
on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2.
Cleanup of the Zope 3 packages has continued to ensure a flexibl
ces to write migration guides or new
feature how-tos. I hope that someone (thinking specifically of Jeff Shell
here) will blog on the new features and changes. :-)
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of people from all places on this planet.
BTW, if you want really friendly help, pay someone to give it to you. ;-)
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so this is definitely not all of the work that needs to be
done.
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POPULATE THE CA WHILE IMPORTING!!!
This is so bad on so many levels. Dieter, your problem is just one example.
Another is that unit tests have no chance to work reliably either.
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On Thursday 11 January 2007 05:59, Chris Withers wrote:
> Stephan Richter wrote:
> > If you are populating the CA before ZCML is fully parsed, then:
>
> Why is the CA predicated on ZCML?!
Because that's how it works by default. Another way of saying this is:
Collect all
On Thursday 11 January 2007 16:03, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Stephan Richter wrote at 2007-1-11 03:12 -0500:
> > ...
> >If you are populating the CA before ZCML is fully parsed, then:
> >
> >DO NOT POPULATE THE CA WHILE IMPORTING!!!
> >
> >This is so bad on
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** No cross pos
on-object data. Specificically, this small application demonstrates using a
Gadfly database using pure SQL calls without any ORM.
- Feature: New "Address Book" demo that demonstrates more complex use cases,
such as subforms, composite widgets, and mappings/lists
Enjoy!
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so I could not try
the package. I just released formdemo 1.1.1, which fixes the problem.
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On Sunday 24 June 2007 23:11, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 22:42:35 -0400, Stephan Richter wrote:
> > Yes, thanks for the report. Cheeseshop was slow on Friday, so I could not
> > try the package. I just released formdemo 1.1.1, which fixes the problem.
>
> Th
use groups effectively. It
also demonstrates how the label of buttons and widgets can be changed using
attribute value adapters.
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/Dev/formdemo/z3c.form'.
>
> An internal error occured due to a bug in either zc.buildout or in a
> recipe being used:
>
> AssertionError:
>
> Should I just check out z3c.form and put a symlink in there?
I accidently checked in my development setup making z3c.form
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 01:09, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
> Something in z3c.formdemo r77305 gives the following error (r77253 builds
> and runs):
I accidently checked in my development buildout.cfg. I fixed that now and
everything should be fine.
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On Wednesday 04 July 2007 14:21, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
> --- Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I accidently checked in my development buildout.cfg. I fixed that now and
> > everything should be fine.
>
> Thanks, after the API update there is one c
l have provided a
> wonderful set of tools. Thank you. Thank you.
Very cool! I think the jquery stuff is very nice and coming along well. Paul
will be working on form validation the next days, so stay tuned!
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ormdemo
- Feature: Created functional tests for the demos.
- Feature: Moved all application ZCML declarations into a ZCML file called
``application.zcml``.
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Hi everyone,
it has been over a year, since we had a conference-independent fully Zope 3
focused sprint. And I think it is time to have one! :-)
Thanks to JSA Tech, there will be a sprint between September 24-28, 2007 right
in the center of historical Concord, Massachusetts. We have reserved a
Hi everyone,
in the past month more project-related work, user feedback/requests and
Javascript work has driven the development of the z3c.form framework. There
are many new exciting features. There were also some small refactoring
changes, which might require your CSS and tests to be adjusted.
interested, please let me know!
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November 5, 2007 - The Zope 3 development team announces the Zope
3.4.0b2 release.
This release is the second beta release for Zope 3.4.0. It was preceded
by an early beta 1 release back in July.
Zope 3.4 introduces support for binary large objects in the ZODB, and provides
a new postprocessing h
ackage allowing some
variable substitution. It was designed for CSS and JS.
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Hi everyone,
It is finally here! Thanks goes to everyone who involved!
January 29, 2009 - The Zope 3 development team announces the Zope 3.4.0
release.
After 2 years of development, the Zope Foundation and the larger Zope
community is proud to announce the release of Zope 3.4.0.
The focus of t
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, michael nt milne wrote:
> repozo -BvzQ -r /foo/backup -f /foo/Data.fs
repozo -BvzQ -r /foo/backup -f /foo/Data.fs > output.txt
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Google me. "Zope Step
t I am pretty sure that unix shell has an answer for that
too; just read up on it.
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Stephan Richter
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