[313] HCI and music software
Hi all, I now have 4 weeks until the end of my course and I have to do ANOTHER slightly lesser project. Luckily, I'd planned out what I wanted to do ages ago... I want to develop an interface for some kind of music software. I've got lots of very general resources for HCI (Human Computer Interface) because I studied it a year or so ago. However, I'm looking for something a little more specific. Does anybody know where I can get information about HCI and the impact of the user interface on the usability etc of music software (or hardware for that matter!!). Also, information the psychology elements (obviously!) of music software interfaces would be great. The importance of the design of the interface of music software doesn't seem to have been covered at all Seems downright weird to me, maybe I shouldn't use Yahoo Search:) Thanks, Nick:) Ps. I hope everyone had a great time at the DEMF. It sounded like it was an awesome experience, just like the last time!!! I am so jealous of you all it makes me feel sick!! What makes it worse is that Titonton's set was great... and I missed it... not fair... :) Oh well, keep reminding me how good it was, it gives me motivation to try and get a big bucks job so I can join you one day:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Rick Davis... WTF???!!!
I think that site is wicked... loads of seminaked orientals in there if you have a look. I should've done Titonton's site like that;) Latez, Nick:) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this explains what's going on Rik, an acknowledged Eastern Mystic, claims to be an incarnation of The El Ma'Arij D'Jinn! and declares that for vast effronteries, and offenses against The God of Rock... He Rik, will now go down and war upon the Satanic Rock Sectors of Cyberspace. Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/25/2001 12:32:21 PM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org cc: (bcc: Paul Matheson/US/BBHComm) Subject: Re: [313] Rick Davis... WTF???!!! Ok... That's definitely NOT a work-safe site (but thanks to my trusty laptop and dial-up connection, it becomes one!). Ummm... What the hell happened to him? Bad drugs? Alien abduction? There's some pretty bizarre stuff there. Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/25/2001 12:19:55 PM To: George Jones/US/ABNAMRO/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: Re: [313] Rick Davis... MIA? Try www.cybotron.com, but be prepared for a shock. Jonny. Just had a thought cross my mind... What ever happened to Rick Davis (of Cybotron)? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] TITONTON DUVANTE ALBUM!!!!
Yup, it's out. I was intending to tell you all but I've not had much time recently... It started shipping on the 14th as far as I know... There should be a whole spate of new releases from Titonton over the next few months... I'll try to keep you updated... Nick:) --- T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just curious. Is this an advertisement? Or are you actually a fan of Duvante? On Thu, 17 May 2001, Arne Weinberg wrote: Hey folks! Go and get the new Titonton album! It´s in the stores finally and it´s one of the best albums of this year! Nothing more to say! Cheers, Arne Arne Weinberg GROUNDZERO Rec. / PROPAGANDA REC. ° - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] I'm very sorry but I had to post this... excessively OT
Mr T. vs Ali G, a bit passé but I nearly passed out laughing at this... Yes, I am very childish... http://www.russell.newlove.btinternet.co.uk/mr_t_vs_ali_g_part_1.htm Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] spam [OT]
Hi 313er's, I am getting so much spam these days, I wonder if any of you guys know what I can do about it other than change my email address and disassociate myself from every list, bbs and message board I've ever been involved with... I never reply to them, or click remove or unsubscribe, I send a copy of it to their domain admin... but I reckon I must be on one of those 1 million mugs you can sell anything to cd-rom's... Is there a better way of telling them to f*** off? Help please, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] spam [OT]
When I said domain admins, I meant forwarding the msg to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if they're using a yahoo addy to send these messages. I didn't mean getting back to the suckers... In fact they actually edit the headers so that it only LOOKS like it's come from yahoo but there're ways to stop them... I dunno how but I know you can do it... Thanks for the advice, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] in support of Carl
--- Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can get packages of t-shirt transfers at most Business Depots/Staples/I don't know what you call businees/stationary stores in the US. They're basically sheets of paper you put in your printer, print anything you want on...(like logos from the Planet E website) and iron onto t-shirts. You can't get the logo from the planet e site as it's all coded in Flash now... Believe me, I've tried. I need the logo for Titonton's site... bye, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] The history of house music retold!
OMG.. is this for real... Gawd!!! I've never heard of Leonard watz'isface... Well, if Jimmy Saville invented scratch mixing then I spose anything's possible... I wanna see him up against DJ Pogo:) Thanks for that... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
F***in hell!!! See, no sooner as they get their foot in the door, they take over... He'd better not stand down... No down they'll be using strong arm tactics to persuade him to hand the DEMF over... Those b*ds. If anything happens, we have to remain true to the scene alright?!?! Underground, 300 years ahead, they can't kill us all... Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Roberto Ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl Craig has been asked to step down as creative director for the DEMF. Read: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
Hi everybody, Before we start accusing anyone of being an evil bastard out to corrupt americas youth and steal techno, we need some more info. It is real easy to yell and scream when you have no real information about what is really going on. Scares them tho, doesn't it... There's more of us... Perhaps you're right tho, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions. What do we do if it happens tho? What if they start selling OUR music as if it was always theirs? Maybe it's a big plot by Sony so that they own everything Mad Mike wouldn't let them have... Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
Hey, Not to say I told you so, but as I recall when I was commenting on this list about the lineup a few weeks ago, saying I didn't feel it was extremely representative of Detroit talent, I feel I was getting hated on a little. Matter of fact, noone really wanted to touch that topic that much at all, which is one that I felt was certainly worth discussing on a 313 list. It's almost as if people didn't want to dare question the holy DEMF and Carl Craig. But now here it is, from the mouth of the prodigal son of techno himself, Mr. Derrick May. And it seems that Carl Craig is on the out and out with this festival anyway. What do y'all think now? I dunno what you're talking about... What about the Conspiracy Theory post by Logavo or did you miss that? I dunno how long you've been on this list but you'd better realise, people won't acknowledge you unless you stand out. I'm rude to people and I question what people class as accepted, that's how I get a response. It's not the best way tho... Better just to make very good posts... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Pal Joey?
Hey, I don't want to sound like a complete idiot but who is Pal Joey... Did he do some old house or something? There's a track I want by him I think... Help me out please, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Pal Joey?
Thanks for the info everybody, So I know he's real:) Now, did who do a track with this guy saying something at the start, kinda introducing the track... something to do with the house conductor and mr earth people himself and some other stuff... It's got this real old school sound to it... Do you know what that track is? Sorry I can't be more specific... No one seems to know who he is around here... I heard Freddy Fresh play it ages ago and I've wanted it ever since... Thanks again, Nick:) --- Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Nick Walsh wrote: Hey, I don't want to sound like a complete idiot but who is Pal Joey... Did he do some old house or something? There's a track I want by him I think... yeah, pal joey is a house head. i have some stuff by him at my shelf, very jazzy and quite deep. i'll dig out some info later for you (busy now). btw, does anyone know if he's still out there doing stuff? Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] HP-DJ mixing + misuse of electronic intruments (was som ething else)
mmm... I don't think The Who had as much to do with the influence of elcetronic instruments as Isao Tomito for example(I'm proud that I can spell it:) I personally would rather play Tomito than The Who. Besides, does detroit techno have to be electronic? I've asked this question to lots of people, would it be possible to create it using live, acoustic instruments and it still be called detroit? Later, Nick(Dj Pacific:) --- FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't that just copying off of the who??? i believe that is what they did (in a way) back when they started using them.but then again they were setting the standard for rock and synth's...and i think they have done a much better job then everyone else. i still love listening to who are you and baba o'rieley i also think that they are pretty instrumental (no pun intended) in the beginnings of electronic music. no one throws them in the mix as influences even though they are one of the first... jeff -Original Message- From: M Elliot-Knight [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: [313] HP-DJ mixing + misuse of electronic intruments (was something else) Or they use them to fill in gaps where otherwise they ran out of ideas. I don't know how many demos and post-rock CDs I've listend to that have artists showing off their impressive collection of Arps and Moogs only to have them occasionaly go bloop inbetween the guitar parts. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Global Underground series - HP-DJ mixing
I think that's the point with electronic music entirely. A lot of people that played real instruments think that sequencers and samplers make it too easy. I think it should allow us to reach further... It's a pity the mainstream caught on to it and now everybody uses electronic instruments... They use them to sound or play like real instruments, the future is outside of that... Nick:) --- JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are no rules. The only thing I find regressive, is when you use a technology such as pro-tools or final scratch to emulate another technology. To make mixes done on pro-tools sound like they where done on turntables is limiting the ways we experience and perceive sound and music. We should be using these technologies to push the framework of music and to find new ways in which to experience it. Jared Wilson FTM Records From: Mad Wax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Global Underground series - HP-DJ mixing Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:47:42 -0600 however, if a DJ has proved that he/she can carry a live mix (such as hawtin, sasha, digweed, etc), I dont see a problem with a mix being touched up with pro-tools, especially as these CDs are mass produced and the artist in question I'm sure wants a perfect mix for the consumers purchasing it. Thats a big difference then say, a DJ releasing a demo tape/cd done in pro tools, getting booked and showing up without the skills to manage the turntables. mad wax | the vocode project | http://www.vocode.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [313] Global Underground series - HP-DJ mixing Y'know, I have a real problem with mix CD's like that. I though the whole idea of a mix cd was to show some skills on the decks, not how much you can pay someone to blend tracks with ProTools. It was a huge letdown when I heard that Richie's DE909 mix cd was done like this, like the guy can't mix it live or something (he can). Someone might as well do an HP-DJ mix cd series. No one will know the difference. tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/09/2001 10:20:13 AM To: Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Gwendal Cobert' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Global Underground series whoaa...really? i nearly bought the darren emmerson one...i havn't heard it but he usually plays a good set..so u saying he didn't mix that himself? - Original Message - From: Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gwendal Cobert' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: RE: [313] Global Underground series The majority of the series is mixed via ProTools, with the DJ on the cover only selecting the tracks. This can be verified by poking around on their web site a little bit. The supposed exception to this being Tenaglia, and possibly John Digweed. But if that doesn't bother you tremendously, I think that all the Tenaglia and the Steve Lawler CDs are pretty good. -Original Message- From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:33 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Global Underground series Danny Tenaglia's Global Underground Athens 2XCD :so dark, moody and perfect... BTW - I have always been intrigued by these series, they usually feature DJs I do not know or like, any other recommandations ? Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 313?
Hello all, I hate to agree with Omar's message but this: I didnt see you complaining when people were sending dumb snippets of just GOOFY stuff to the list. ...is s true. I think a lot of posts recently (including my own) are pretty unoriginal. People just rehash what has already been said... There isn't really much point is there? I'm sure you all have work to do... :) My fave mixtape is the Regression - Ratty Part 2 tape live at Sterns (so it says:)... Not all rave, some old warehouse stuff too... so We are ie is in there... so what... The whole tape is breakbeat central... I love Ratty, so don't mess, okay? Later, Nick:) np. Cocteau Twins - BBC Sessions - Bella Union/BBC Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Bush front
I don't know about the Bush's, but it wouldn't surprise me. Prior to the American involvement in the war, there were many supporters of Germany. Germany was a mess prior to the nasty H-man, and when he rose, everything was really really improved in every way (sorry for my laymen wording, but I'm tired and lazy right now (after all, I am an American!!;-])) MY grandmother tells me how, prior to the war, allot of people in our area Cleveland Ohio, USA, actually flew Nazi flags, or had pictures of big bad H on their wall. It wasn't till the end of the war, and the trials that people became aware of the atrocities, and even then, it was very hush hush... There was even a large American Nazi party... The 30's was a very interesting era, and the social thoughts at the time are very different than now. I can't understand why people make such a big deal out of Mr H etc... Germany suffered a lot too... And made a sincere apology afterwards... (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-124741,00.html) Something Bush finds very difficult to do... Anyway, we can't spend our lives hurting forever... People have to move on... Humility is a small price to pay... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] R: [313] Bush front
--- fab137 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't understand why people make such a big deal out of Mr H etc... Germany suffered a lot too... And made a sincere apology afterwards What are you trying to say?!?!?!?!?! Are you some sort of historical revisionist? Well, if you want to revel in the misery of our forefathers forever, then that's up to you. Personally, I had nothing to do with it. You can't prejudice a nation because of the wrongs of one man committed more than 50 years ago... That's racism isn't it? They always talk about the massacre of the Jews in the war but what about the Turkish Massacre of the Armenians years before? Besides it wasn't just the Jews that were persecuted, the Nazis also murdered homosexuals and people of other religious organisations. There are more Nazi's in Scotland than there are in Germany... Germany is not to blame, the people of any country can be warm and loving or hateful and selfish but individuals should not suffer because of things that there brother has done... It is your attitude that causes conflicts like the one in Israel/Palistine at the moment... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about moby and his corporate money he receives...
--- Omar Hackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peace Be unto U Funny, Kent I have been on the list long enough to know when you didnt even use the word hater, but now your own the bandwagon using it as though your all in..come on Chap give it a rest, pretty please with sugar and cherry on top! I do agree with one thing you said, how the heck could a Moby even be discussed. Thus I wont! I will however deal with one issue. Who the hell said that money helps, hunh, who said it? Unbelievable! Dont any of you know that we been doing this sh*t for years without money! If we compiled all the brothas together that are engineers, general technicians, lighting technicians, a builder to build the stages(who takes scraps from the lumber yard), rented some microphones and other digital equipment, planners and organizers, cats in production, promotions etc..., coupled with all the other trimmings I'd imagine that it could be pulled off. But who has the courage to try it? Point: U dont need, necessarily, corporate sponsors for this type of thing. These brothas and others around the country and globe have been doing this stuff for years...with just what they have, and no one is mad on this side about it. Basically, we'd hope U'd get the message to keep churging ahead with what you got, forging networks of people with LIKEMIND, and thats how it could be even bigger and better without the corporations cash and still retain its integrity. QUESTION: Do any of you believe in coming together, and that something positive, organized, and constructive can result from such a unity? DONT ANSWER, its rhetorical. I would guess that if you did believe it, then your post, as well as your treatment of people outside the world of 313 would reflect such a belief. Nick W, keep up the good work! Thanks for that... In response to Laura's post yesterday (tho it's sort of relevant to this also)... I went home and had a big long think about Laura's post... The truth is that this was bound to happen eventually. What can we do about it? Do we boycott Derrick May because he sold out supposedly? Miss G, I wonder if Ritual had offered you a three year contract instead of Ms. Marvin would you take it? As Omar says above, a lot of artists live on a shoestring, very few are millionaries. It's the promoters that are making the big bucks... If you're offered the chance to make a bit more money, you'd take it... Wanting to make money isn't a bad thing... It's greed that's bad... What Ford and SFX are doing is greedy and potentially destructive but, as John O and Tristan pointed out, the underground will never die... not whilst there are people that truly love music... What it boils down to is that, even if detroit techno becomes popular or even mainstream, it will split the scene between those that are in it for the money and the hardcore... the REAL detroit heads... The scene may need to evolve but I think we also need to decide which side of the fence we're on now. Just the people on this list can change the course of the scene. Most of all, realise that there is nothing to worry about... We can take care of the scene as long as we do what we've always done, remain true to what you believe in... Nick (Dj Pacific:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] Ford steals souls....[long] veering OT
--- Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second, corporate america can't steal things that you don't allow them to. heh. sony did. :P jaguar much? And what happened... We rose up in such numbers that they ended up canning the whole idea. We should save our energy for situations like that. Not worrying about the implications of Ford's marketing schemes. The Sony/BMG version of Jaguar WAS released and played by loads of stupid trance dj's and lots of people got the BMG version and not the real version... I don't think Sony lost anything or learnt anything... The boycott of Sony/BMG music products was an almost valueless gesture... For Sony, nothing has changed... However, I think detroit techno is getting greater recognition IMO. Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] Ford steals souls....[long] veering OT
--- Dennis, I know you have done pretty good so far what jobs are concerned, but I don't think you can really judge on what really can go down unless you have experienced it firsthand. The thing they did to me at my first job in the bank was so horrible that I would go to court over it now. Unfortunately it was my first job and I had no experience whatsoever. I did my job well, but was exploited and if that weren't enough I got f***ed even worse after a bit more than a month at work. My first boss had my driving around the city to post his publicity. I had to do this with my own car after working hours. He put in the stamps it would normally take for those things to get posted as expenses. He threatened me to let go of my vacation period. He had me cleaning the floor after closing hours etc. And then some more really bad stuff happened to me resulting in being unemployed for more than a week while actually being at work, resulting in having to switch to another office, resulting in a reduced paycheck, resulting in a forced course of insurances, resulting in shame, disbelief and a world crushing down on a guy who only had worked for about a month. My first boss and the one from the other office had figured out this whole scheme even before employing me. I was heading towards a major depression when I saw the chance to get out. I did in a flash. And this stuff happens to s many people too... Everyone has a bad experience like this... Some people work like this day to day and get paid a pitance for it and they don't have a choice because money makes the world go round and the more they can crush out of you the better... People don't matter... I did systems anaylsis last year and the description of this kind of behaviour we used was the use of a hard systems methodology in a soft systems environment. Basically, many big companies don't give a sh*t about employees feelings. They aren't valued assets, they are resources and they are expendable... despite the fact that job satisfaction improves employee productivity... This brings me to the Anticapitalist Mayday things that went on around the world and the riots in Quebec and Seattle. People are sick of it... And people have the power to change things... Leads onto the Ur vs Sony thing... It's all interrelated. There's no doubt companies like Ford have put the US and Japan and countries in Europe ahead financially... but the US etc, don't need MORE money... When there are still, in the year 2001, third world countries and poverty and starvation, even in the UK and US. It used to be survival of the richest but people are tired of this sh*t. Things have to change... it's up to us... Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] about moby and his corporate money he receives...
--- tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: h..interesting, but can he reverse what he's done by becomming (in effect) an advocate for the car company he's worked for? wouldn't it be easier to just tell them to f*** off in the first place? and then maybe, make a big deal out of doing that, thus hopefully heightening awareness of the cause among his millions of fans? Nobody would get any money in that case... Those who deserve it or those who don't. The way he's going is clever, someone benefits and it upholds his cleancut image. Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
This should be private shouldn't it? Also, I think everyone on Earth knows about BBC Radio 1 as the BBC is one of the (if not THE) oldest broadcasting organisation/s in the world... Yahoo is very poor and has been for weeks, it seems I only get crap mail through recently... Thanks, Nick:) --- tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah...im in the uk..we get a load of MTV channels here: MTV Europe (plays a lot of crap - like MTV US i guess) MTV 2 (plays mainly alternative rock - with sprinkling of techno) MTV Bass (hip-hop/rnb) and MTV Dance, usually pretty commercial but with the odd gem. so between them we actually get to see that vid quite alot. plus, when it first came out - the breakfast dj on radio 1 (ultra commercial station) decided he liked it, and played it EVERY morning at 6.45 for about 8 weeks... which was cool;) - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s hEY tIM, WHEN DO YOU SEE THE JAGUAR VID ON MTV? tHE ONLY THING I EVER CATCH ON THERE IS trl. iS 120 MINUTES STILL AROUND? Whoops sorry bout the caps I just realized!!! =) Are you in the UK or Europe by chance? TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] Interesting Insight
What a wicked post... A last a chance for some REAL discussion Basically, what it boils down to is...unless we break the cycle-we're our own worst enemy. *Re the part about ford: Ford is trying to label or brand Detroit techno.They want to own this. They want to reach a point where 'techno=cool=fun=Ford' and one owes itself to the other. I owe this eye opener to Miss G. The only way they'll own it is if its allowed. I'm not saying ban the DEMF or Ford's money. But rather, use them as the rich aunt. Sure, throw the money around all you want-but it doesn't mean I'm suddenly going to praise you or acknowledge you in my life liner notes. Totally, I've mentioned this before ages ago... There're a lot of people involved in this scene at roots level. If there're people at this level then it can never become commercial and it will never be possible to stick it in it's own special rack in HMV or Tower... Detroit techno is just to broad. Example... There is still good underground hip hop about despite the fact that it's all in the charts (stateside and in Europe) and has sprung in and out of fashion a few times over the past 20 years. The reason for this is that it's easy to produce and there're lots of kids at roots level that can just pick up a mike and MC without even considering getting a big record deal... That's when the best music is made... In fact, I spoke to a mate about this the other day. We came to the conclusion that most legendary bands and artists only ever produce one really great album, the first one... Then they start making money and there's no enthusiasm to create good new music anymore... Not true for all bands tho obviously. This links with the recent posts about secertive producers... Lots of producers have released stuff on UR but are never credited and they don't care. That's one of the reasons the label is so good and so true to detroit techno... What do you think? Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Titonton news
Hi peeps, Titonton just got in touch about his LP... Apparently it hasn't been released yet because of massive problems with the vinyl final copies... It will hopefully be out in the US May 14th... So you got an exclusive after all, Gary:) He gave me a LOAD of incredible news about future sh*t... Damn, check his new one with Tejada on Palette... All I'm gonna say is expect more collabs in this vain from the guy (VERY soon too)... Also, got loads more dates coming soon... Titonton will be back in the states on Thursday. I'll try and get his site finished very soon. I can have it all done by this time next week, if I go flat out... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
RE: [313] Titonton LP/CD
--- Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's 'Voyeurism', I just picked that up recently and it's been blowing me away.. It's not your typical 4/4 pounding techno beat, but he changes it up alot with clever breakdowns and stuff. Really cool. Hi all, Yeah, the one in the Orange sleeve is Voyeurism... This isn't his new LP/CD tho, His new one is called Selections for Intercourse and has real strings and opera vocals in it... It's supposedly been out since the 9th but I haven't seen it about... Titonton's on his European tour at the moment but I'll ask him when he gets back if it's been put back (again). Residual is a great label but they're not so good at sticking to deadlines:) Later, Nick:) -Original Message- From: Michael Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 4:51 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Titonton LP/CD hi, i don't know if it's the same one that i picked up, but i picked up a 2x12 by Titonton Duvante (in an orange sleeve, i can't remember the title right now) from Recordtime already. it is GREAT, IMO, no make that really great. 1 hard song on there, and the rest is just really beautiful techno. WELL worth the $21 i bought it for (ouch). Mike From: Powdered Toastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Titonton LP/CD Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:13:01 -0700 Hey Nick, is Titonton's LP really out?? I keep bugging the record stores and they said they haven't seen anything listedexcept the John Tejada Titonton release on Palette. Is there a distribution problem, date pushed back or are my local record store guys just being lame slags? From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi ppl, it's my duty to remind everyone that Titonton's CD/LP Selections for Intercourse supposedly came out yesterday (the 9th). It is great BTW, so at least hear it even if you don't like Titonton's stuff. Later, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Sonic EP
Talking of UR stuff... I've got this old track on a mixtape that sounds a lot like the track orbit off of the Sonic EP... I dunno, were there any remixes of that track? Need it if there is... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] Quick question...
--- Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/27/01 6:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your in the line of music---I can understand it, and I guess if you say 95% of the music---I can now understand it, but maybe I just fit the stereotype of being lazy--I just like the Program option, the repeat option, clarity, etc I knew I'd end up dragging myself into this... I don't buy the 95% estimate. In my experience, many vinyl-only buyers don't care to find out what's available on CD. Sure, lots of labels never release CDs, and I think that's a shame. But if you actively seek out good music, and are patient, you'll find a lot more is available than a quick run through the CD bins would indicate. What tends to never make it to CD is the loop based, floor-filler bangers, which aren't good listening-room material anyway. Well, some stuff only comes out on CD... CD versions often have more tracks on them too... I think it's worth it to have whatever device is necessary to hear your favourite music... be it on vinyl or CD or cassette or MD... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] Kirk Degiorgio
--- Matthew Gerbasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I was told kirk was involved in the following releases.does anyone know in what fasion he was involved 4 hero// Mr. Kirk's nightmare//smile various//no categories 2//Ubiquity thanks matthew Is there any other recent (since late 2000) production or remixing that I have missed? He did a remix for the Ars Antiqua CD on Atomcandy. That was released March this year... Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] Re: ezmlm response
--- Otto Koppius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tim maughan wrote: so what? we can't discuss music software/hardware here? what if i prefix everything with as used by (insert member of the holy trinity here) before everything? So you want to talk about clothes (as worn by...), breakfast cereals (as eaten by...) and toilet paper (as used by...) too? :) Gear talk was exactly why 313TechKnow was created, check http://groups.yahoo.com/group/313TechKnow for subscription info. I think there should be a little leeway with our discussion on this list... detroit techno has it's influences and has influenced many styles of music. If we don't keep adding new influences, the music will never progress. Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] Cambridge UK: vinyl dump...
Martin, loads of todd terry, X103 'atlantis', R+S, KMS, trax, the odd Metroplex. they had KMS 'forcefield'. [i thought of you Marcel] i picked up: Reese ' just another chance' [house classics] Dan curtain 'Time undefined' [strictly rhythm] B***ard!!! I've been looking for this for s long... Wanna swap for something? Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] what is electro, now s.o.l.?
--- darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well detroit was the beginning of electronic music as we know it so.. ?? huh!?!?!? Okay... The origins are pretty ambiguous but what I meant was Detroit up at the start of techno and house (when it was being called techno and house)... Don't get me arguing pls:) Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] what is electro, now s.o.l.?
Hi, No... Just Techno. House is Chicago's claim to fame. Oh really?! I'm not saying house started in detroit... Oh god... what's the point?!?!?! *sigh* I guess you're all too clever me, you already know everything about techno and house and who made the first ever 4/4 rhythm and everything right? You'd better help the young chap who was asking then if you're so smart... The question was What is Electro? Do you remember? You ain't that smart, freaks... Eat dust, Nick:| Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/19/2001 10:02:26 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: Re: [313] what is electro, now s.o.l.? --- darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well detroit was the beginning of electronic music as we know it so.. ?? huh!?!?!? Okay... The origins are pretty ambiguous but what I meant was Detroit up at the start of techno and house (when it was being called techno and house)... Don't get me arguing pls:) Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
RE: [313] what is electro, now s.o.l.?
--- Sean Deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all those who dont see whats techno about Strings of Life? please form a line before the firing squad. Detroit techno comes on so many flavors and draws from so many inspirations that it's impossible to define it with any one sound or any one artist (hell, even that one artists work will jump numerous genres in the space of one album). so when does a techno artist cross that line and is considered to be no longer in the techno realm? Look at the Detroit 11 Phases compilation on Sublime. there are a few tracks on there that I feel would not be out of place on a traditional Detroit techno album. Well detroit was the beginning of electronic music as we know it so... Detroit certainly has it's own feeling... People who aren't in the know associate techno with the more recent tribal sound but techno isn't that at all... D.May is detroit techno, T1000 is detroit techno, A Guy Called Gerald was (and still is) detroit techno, UR are detroit techno, Claude Young is detroit techno, Dan Bell is detroit techno... All of these records fit together... House and techno aren't that different anyway... on my copy of Nude Photo is says on the sleeve WARNING: This is the real house sound of Detroit. Sheesh, who cares about genres... detroit is detroit... If I like it it's detroit, okay? 4Hero is detroit... I love 4Hero... Yet they're music is called jungle or d'n'b... Genre's are stupid... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] DEMF
--- tom johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for all of your help! Why isn't DJ T-1000 playing at this year's lineup? Is there some sort of bad relationship between the DEMF and him? There are few people left in Detroit that have not played yet, why is he not on there? Why aren't UR there? Why isn't Rob Hood or Mills there? They're more detroit than most of the freaks playing this year... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] who go juan atkins it happen last week no one care i cry a lot play with puppies
--- Arsenal 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally i am sick and tired of seeing these posts. i find them offensive and a complete waste of inbox space. please delete yourself from my existence as well as my inbox. thank you. He's just mucking about... The guy isn't as stupid as he looks you know... I'm sure p***ing ignorant people off is his intention... Why can't you just have a laugh with it? Personally, I think this detroit muusic/public effairs guy is by hilarious... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] fill in the blanks : ) (was: Dego at DEMF track ID)
He played the first Archive release too I think... That Nubian Mindz track... Black Science... Later, Nick:) --- jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with all those track id's the last two days, i wrote down what i know about this set so far, let's see if any of you can fill in the blanks. Dego at the first DEMF. - seiji second nature bitasweet - ?? - ?? - wookie down on me manchu - ?? - ?? - pepe braddock deep burnt kif - ?? - hasheemal-naafiysh cutting - phoojunsomeatime archive - ?? - homecookin'lazy days sole music 1) - ?? 2) - likwid biskit the all new ummmpeople - isolee beau mot plage classic freeform reform remix - neon phusion timeless motion co-op - ?? 1) not sure, don't have this one, but i know it's by seiji, so that would make sense if it's in a dego set, that and the fact that volcov from archive rated it one of his top tunes for 2000, 2) this one samples tony allen's afro disco beat from his progress LP, that's all i know about it, that's all i know (well... all about this set that is!) bye, jurren _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [313] DJ Shufflemaster, Fenton, San
Totally, Paul was right... People associate Mills with one sound... A sound that he doesn't make anymore and people should stop associating him with it... Mills has progressed... Later, Nick:) --- Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: umm, which Millsian? Metropolis Mills? Changes of Life Mills? Step to Enchantment Mills? give me a break. Mike From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DJ Shufflemaster, Fenton, San Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:14:09 +1000 Actually, coming from a 'journalist', 'Millsian' is a very fluid term - it doesn't mean hard techno, it means what it says. Also, people move on to new things. It's called 'growth'. :) no real standouts probably but every track is usable in a harder set. and as for emulating mills i just wish he was making good hard music aswell these days and not the rubbish that's been out on purpose maker recently. lazy journalism (sorry tom) and done by so many, to describe hard minimal techno as like mills, millsian etc. more like mills plays than actually makes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Jega
This should really be for the IDM list but I have to tell everyone... I've been listening to Jega's whore (was a CD only release on Skam) for the past month almost continuously and I think it is prolly my fave track in the whole world ever... Does anyone have copies of this or his first release on Skam that they could sell? (the one with Norton Midgate on it) Later Nick (Dj Pacific:) np. Intron v Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Titonton LP/CD
Hi ppl, it's my duty to remind everyone that Titonton's CD/LP Selections for Intercourse supposedly came out yesterday (the 9th). It is great BTW, so at least hear it even if you don't like Titonton's stuff. Later, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Titonton
--- jean-francois baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can check an old titonton's interview here http://www.d2b.org/EAR/INTW/08/titonton_duvante.html He recently did a little interview for Jockey Slut... The release date for Selections is wrong tho... It's April the 9th... Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Titonton
--- .placebo . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trace Elements 2 was a collab with Morgan Geist. nope, trace 2 featured a track by titonton called scrazzelnyph. trace 3 had a track he and morgan did. Yeah, 1 was Jizzak inda Bizza, 2 was Scrazzleniph and 3 was the collab... a tune called Up Innis and probably the best of the 3... Later, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [313] jazzanova - kings of west london sound?
--- Steven Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DB or Jungle wasn't taken seriously by who exactly??? When it started out Ibiza Records were calling it racist... Oops... sorry... Well, it was an attempt to put reggae and ragga with the UK rave of the day and the name jungle wasn't approved of by everybody for some reason... 'twasn't 4Hero that started jungle tho... As far as I know it all started in Tivoli Gardens way back... Nick:) no offence, just love mark and dego´s stuff.. when they started that sound ,db or jungle wasn´t taken seriously... i tink its time to acknowledge their immense influence on music as we know it today.. 154 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] jazzanova - kings of west london sound?
--- Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: RE: [313] jazzanova - kings of west london sound? everyone who wasn´t makin it or not runnin around with the mighty glowsticks... Although don't forget that 4 hero were big on the rave scene when they bought out Mr Kirks Nightmare and that Cooking up your Brain ep. They were a quartet then weren't they? They're first release was Rising Sun in 1990. The other major oldie they did was Space '91... People only remember the hardcore stuff tho... They were miles slower than their peers when hardcore was getting faster and faster... You had to put Head in the Clouds at +4 at least... Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [313] Stacey Pullen and Mark and Dego
--- Steven Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do 2000 Black have a website? nah... but check Stephen Kelly's Twoplayer site... it has a full discog... http://www.twoplayer.org/ He dj's on Nortroute too... http://www.nortroute.net/ Notice a pattern yet? Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
4Hero Pseudonyms
so many puesdonyms any one care to list them... 4Hero = Tek9 (Dego), Manix (Mark), Points Proven, NuEra, Jacob's Optical Stairway, Tom and Jerry, Pavel Dego Kostiuk is Dego too I think... Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Fwd: RE: [313] jazzanova - kings of west london sound?
--- Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Nick Walsh' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [313] jazzanova - kings of west london sound? Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:52:17 +0100 d+b for me it goes a little something like this slowly buidling up from Bristol (early 3 stripe recordings) More Rockers, Smith and Mighty, Fresh Four fusing dub and mid tempo breaks...(somebody please remember these monumental tracks...) to London...i kid you not Rebel MC - Word Sound and Power (after those 'street tuff' escapede released a fine d+b + roots - Even had Dennis Brown on it ! and then onto Gerald, Jacobs Optical Stairway, Bukem, Metalheads, Grooverider back to Bristol for the Reprazent I dont know where we are know Well, it was an attempt to put reggae and ragga with the UK rave of the day and the name jungle wasn't approved of by everybody for some reason... 'twasn't 4Hero that started jungle tho... As far as I know it all started in Tivoli Gardens way back... __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] 4Hero Pseudonyms
Oh yeah... Cold Mission or something too... --- .placebo . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: internal affairs... From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] 4Hero Pseudonyms Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:47:03 -0700 (PDT) so many puesdonyms any one care to list them... 4Hero = Tek9 (Dego), Manix (Mark), Points Proven, NuEra, Jacob's Optical Stairway, Tom and Jerry, Pavel Dego Kostiuk is Dego too I think... Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] record shops worldwide..
--- janos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm putting together a list of worldwide record hops. There was some a few days ago, but i need more. Tell me about good record shops in your city and others that you know... Pure Sheng (my local:) 80 Micklegate York Innercity Records 11a Headingley Lane Leeds http://www.innercity.co.uk/ Very good selection here... they do mail order... Paul (the propriator) is a list member:) There's one just opposite called Sublevel too. There's a mint shop in my hometown of Leicester called Rock a Boom too which has loads of deep house and stuff:) Rockaboom 4 St. Martins Square Leicester http://www.rockaboom.co.uk/ 5HQ is the other good one in Leicester. It's run by the Formation Records crew (AKA DJSS and friends). It's mostly jungle/d'n'b but they do have other styles in there... It's quite a scary place to be IMO... All these rough looking blokes were looking at me when I went in and it reminds me of seedy strip joint... Also... Vinyl Underground Northampton http://www.vinylunderground.force9.co.uk/ Vinyl Junkies Soho, London http://www.vinyl-junkies.co.uk/ Earcandy Edinburgh http://www.earcandy.co.uk/ I know a few others too, can't remember them just yet... Have you tried http://www.moremusic.co.uk/sitemap.htm ? There have a massive directory of record shops in the UK and internationally:) Later, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] jazzanova - kings of west london sound?
--- tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not wanting to start some contoversy herebut IMHO meat beat manifesto kikked dnb off...radio babylon saw them merging big fat dub basslines and speeded up breaks...they were ripped off by the hardcore breakbeat crowd and that developed into dnb I don't even know where d'n'b came from... I heard a load of MC's talking about the drum's and the bass and suddenly, in '95, it became a widely used term for what I knew as jungle... a year later jungle and d'n'b were two different things?!?! I dunno what was going on... Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Titonton
Hi there, the other week i picked up the new planet e double. its got a track buy Titonton thats tight. I was just wondering what other tracks people like from him. hes got some stuff on Residual and a double called Voyeurism (i think). One day i overheard kent williams talking about how Titonton was more of a composer and was taught music theory. i havent seen his new cd yet. is it something thats going to be pressed on wax. The Selections for Intercourse CD and LP is coming out on April 9th. The LP has 8 trakcs and the CD has 13 (and is a lot more forward thinking). Titonton released his first vinyl EP entitled Embryonic on Metamorphic in 1995. He has been featured on 21 releases to date and is currently djing and performing live about the US... he is appearing at Motor on the 7th... Any Titonton quessies, send them to me privately. I know too much about Titonton Duvanté... he certainly deserves a LOT more respect... Later, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] A bit harsh?
Hi ppl... --- Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Philip Sherburne [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [313] brinkmann opens the can of worms [LONG] And would someone please boot this Chrise fella? (S)he is contributing nothing but kerosene. I thought maybe I was a bit harsh with this statement, but chinaman and arab? ? ? Come on, please at least make an attempt at sensitivity. I think people are being too sensitive about it... In fact, if you're all as mature as you say you are you'd stop dropping bombs yourself... I think the most intelligent response I've heard so far was by that Timothy Johnson fella right at the start... I had a bit of an epiphany about this thread last night and I realise noone oughta apologise for speaking what they feel. However, the thread is going nowhere and you guys keep posting the same thing in different word arrangements. It is rather tiresome... Take care, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Titonton
Hi again, --- Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, ryan burns wrote: the other week i picked up the new planet e double. its got a track buy Titonton thats tight. I was just wondering what other tracks people like from him. hes got some stuff on Residual and a double called Voyeurism (i think). i have the remixes of Voyerism on Starbaby. Can't remember what tracks and remixes there was, and by whom. Anyway, good 12. Remixes by Stefan Manceau/Christophe Bouthé/Jymmy Dark and Rue East... It also has the original version of Boudoir on it... I also like that Extrapolation remixes 12 on Metamorphic - it's quite nice. Although, once again, can't remember who did the remixes, it's a bit electro-y stuff, but not the current retro-80's or detroit-electro -styles. More like electro in Metamorphic way, ie it's really weird. 2 remixes by Dan Curtin which are the electro ones and one by Dego on the d'n'b tip (obviously). The original version of Extrapolation is featured on the Endorphin Ep. The Dego remix is also featured on that:) bubbye, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [313] Titonton
Hello, --- Batory, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My favourite is his e.p. on Environ that he did with Morgan Geist. I think it was just called Titonton Morgan or vice-versa, either way it is top class. Titonton and Morgan Ep was released on Environ/Phono. You may as well get Morgan Geist's Into a separate space CD/LP which features all the tracks on that ep anyway as well as other stuff from the first 3 environ releases... I'll be back soon, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] the good good (was:Titonton)
Hi... --- Matthew Gerbasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry if this was already discussed... I noticed the track listing is different on the planet e release than on the 2000 black release specifically the 4 hero track is not on the planet e. Are you talking about the 4Hero cover of John Coltrane's Naima? This isn't available as a single unfortunately (as far as i know). I've heard that a bunch of Naima covers will be appearing on Laws of Motion soon... It might already be out actually so I the 4Hero mix MIGHT be on there... is this track available on a vinyl single so that I do not have to spend 20 something more dollars for the import cd just to get the 4 hero and the few other tracks only on the import? Hmmm... I have an MP3 of that track... you want it? Later, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Race and Techno Annoyance
Forget it Scott... Half the list has tried explaining your point before... Do they listen? Noo... It's like, after thousands of years of civilisation there are still wars and famine and disease... A person is clever but people are stupid... f**k 'em, don't bother complaining... I wonder if there are any half caste kids on the list? My cousin's are half caste but they act like they are black... Some act like they are white... Because it's weird to be trapped between two cultures... The reason people are so xenophobic in my country is because people from other nations can come along and get what they want because people are too scared to tell them if they do wrong. As soon as a NATIVE, ABORIGINAL english person (oops almost said man there:) cries out about it, their chastised for being racist... Just forget it... Say anything about race and colour and people get shirty about it straight away as if it belongs to them... Well, this is a big f**k you to all you closed minded b***ards out there. Welcome to the 21st century... Another 100 years of death and hatred ahead I bet... Why can't people just put up with it, hey? It's only bl***y music for Christ's sake... Later suckers, Nick:) --- Scott Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to KDJ quotes from Charles Prince... OK, It takes a bit to get me to post, but here goes... I'm so sick of this Black/White thing... Race is race, and music is music... The two are in some ways intertwined but a piece of music is it's own entity, sentient and soveriegn... Yes the founding fathers of techno were black, and deserve a great deal of respect for their accomplishment... I love KDJ's music... But I can't help but be bothered that this stereotype, and reverse racism is being carried on To say that to understand soul music you have to be black, because that's who it was made by and intended for, is like to say that to understand Christianity you have to be Jewish, because that's who it was made by and initially intended for (Just an anology)... The whole thing sucks Ideas are Ideas... Techno is an Idea... or if you look at it Jeff Mill's way, it's beyond an Idea... Isn't techno constantly refered to as 'future music'??? What about a future that is void of a separation between races??? It seems that actually many people are still living in the past... I'm of white skin color I love techno and house I FEEL techno, and house in my soul... All of it... From the hard to the deep (actually more on the deep side)... Who's to say who can and can't feel certain music just because of race, color, or creed??? I may not have lived Curtis Mayfield's life, and neither did anyone else on this planet, but I can ***FEEL*** his music... I can feel what he's talking about, what he's expressing through his music, and his voice... The same with Marvin Gaye or Chic, it's the beauty of the human ability to empathize... I would never tell Alan Oldham that because he's not white he can't appreciate My Bloody Valentine or Shoegazer music (which he loves and respects), or tell Jeff Mills he couldn't do Final Cut because industrial was a white thing... This is because I refuse to lump sentient human entities into catagories!!! Music has no color... It's like a white guy getting pissed that Carl Craig remixed 'Moskow Diskow' or 'Problemes De Amore' because they were white musics, or to say that giorgio moroder had no soul. Pretty Rediculous Right??? What was techno?? Who and who stuck in an elevator with a drum machine??? I think you see where I'm going It seems sometimes that for a group of people who spend alot of time trying to hide their identities or remain 'underground' once it comes to race it seems everyone's talking, and it's not about all their influences The truth is when it comes to the ***ART*** of making music from the soul, every soul speaks an individual language and who is anyone to interpret that message for anyone Or to tell anyone what they can or can't feel??? That's just irrational judgementalism. Let's just get back to talking about the music we love and not who can and can't love and feel it. My 2 cents... - sb One Ear to the Ground Communications http://www.totheground.com (Coming Soon!!) - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:35 AM Subject: RE: [313] Good artist steals? one of my fav music quotes is Sad in the 20th century, in the 1990s, we still have to go thru the same bullshit route that other artists had to go to get acceptance. If it wasnt for the independents, if it wasnt for the small little cities, and the few little ghetto guys trying to make music, it would of never happened. Some of these guys will never make a dime. Some of these guys will be poor
Re: [313] the race debate
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this article is fact?? What about this? http://www.msnbc.com/news/548387.asp Is this fact also? There is no such thing as fact... Check the Flat Earth Society for example... You can prove any opinion wrong if you think about it long enough... Therefore the other opinion must be right... Or is it... Later, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Race and Techno Annoyance
You are more likely to bring someone around to your perspective if you take the time to foster an open discussion offline than by citing rhetorically charged quotes in a global public forum. If your goal is to piss people off that don't understand where you're coming from, keep on spewing heated rhetoric. If your goal is to educate, persuade, and (God forbid) learn, then find out why you disagree and start a discussion - offline. Yeah, totally... Like I said, we've been through the race stuff before... Every few months we do it again... I think I bemoaned it last time in fact, I said this would happen didn't I? Who cares... Why don't we start a new list???... 313RaceFlames... We could argue forever, I mean no one wants to find an answer... No smilie this time, Nick __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Race and Techno
--- Otto Koppius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tim maughan wrote: it really upsets me to watch you all b*tch at each other like this. when i was a kid, techno was a unifying force...well, at least here in the UK. [snip] and the poeple i did this with - who i talked, danced, got high, and loved with - weren't ANY color. hey - yeah..they were black, asian, white, male, female, rich kids, ghetto kids, straight, gay, disabled...but no one cared. no one said anything. why? cos only one thing mattered: techno. On the dancefloor, yes, absolutely right. BUT... A... shove your but up your ass... Hmm... That's not possible is it? Later, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno
--- kharris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah well i grew up hanging out in detroit where racist skins would come to shows and fights would happen and cops would come and i learned at an early age _race does matter_..politics _matter_..if you choose to ignore it, if you choose to not be a force for change that is fine but i won't sit here and have someone preach that it doesn't..everything you do is political on some level What is your point? Are you saying that showing the differences between black and white is gonna help that? I don't understand, how does harping on about race issues stop skinheads from beating people up? Nick... __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno
i originally wrote this message. it seems a little harsh now that i read it again, i apologize Lot of us have been making stupid comments. Including myself (I think I'm probably the worst). I'm really sorry about my stupid comments... I think this shows just what a pointless thread this is... Nick... __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] West London soun'
Hi Andy, As for Titonton, his Beta Lounge set is still doing my head in. Can anyone recommend DJ sets online in a similar style? You could check Nortroute.net (as I've said millions of times) but noone seems to listen to me anyway... Titonton hasn't always been like this but he is progressing in an interesting direction. I actually liked his double edged 2 mixtape... The first thing I heard from the guy. I spose someone else will say almost exactly the same thing in a couple of posts and you'll all be responding to that so Dunno why I bother really... Later, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: [313] chi-house sets
http://deephousepage.com/ Nick(Dj Pacific:) --- Samuel Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am hoping someone might know of any web sites that would have archived sets of chicago house from the 80's. i am mainly looking for the early chicago masters. -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: [313] i have to dj and i'm scared.
Hey, --- tristan watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jesus, if he's this worried why is he even djing. and for a 'dj' to even ask other people what they feel he should play, well. Come on, don't you think that's a bit harsh? We all learn at our own pace, no? And the practicalities of DJing often entail finding a way to work outside of your normal parameters *if you want to get gigs*. Some of us are less flexible on this point than others, thus we DJ less often. Totally, I agree... In fact there's no need for that kind of 'tude. Not like you Paul at all... Is everything okay? I reckon that you should just play whatever takes your fancy... This trance guy should be worrying about fitting in with YOUR stuff. If he can't keep up then that's his problem... And if the promoter gets shirty about it and never hires you again, well... good... His loss... Putting trance with detroit tech is a stupid idea and shows how much this goon of a promoter knows... It's not your problem, mate... It's a job, do it, collect the cheque, get out of there. Later, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: [313] Detroit Electronic Music Festival
Fine... Well then, Titonton is definitely gonna be at the DEMF as he told me... I'm programming his site and it will be officially online soon... He'll be playing at the 7th City stand... I can provide proof but you'll have to reply privately... Nick:) --- atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:39:46AM -0800, diana potts wrote: http://www.billboard.com/daily/2001/0326_09.asp Check this: http://www.billboard.com/daily/2001/0327_07.asp -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
RE: [313] D?EMF Line-Up
Yup yup, I can tell you from a very reliable source that HDNone is talking a load of pap. I also know a few dj's that are gonna be there but the line ups may change, it's still being organised, so there's no room for speculation. Things will be clearer soon, there's no point wasting bandwidth now when the full details will be displayed way before the event anyway... Besides, I've heard the DEMF is gonna be split into sites for individual labels and I've only heard detroit labels mentioned so half of those guys HDNone suggests are out... later, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Andrew Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :::I have VERY RELIABLE sources that have informed me of who is and isn't :::playing this years D?EMF(as in Detroit??? Electronic Music Festival). :::According to my sources there were originally NO Detroit DJs :::scheduled to :::play the main stage at all this year! and apparently Carl Craig has decided to make a whole heap of eurotrance tunes and plans to sign Eiffel 65 and the Britney Spears to planet e PUHlease!!! can people do as diana potts asked and wait until the press conference b4 telling everyone they have reliable sources if they were that reliable then you'd tell us who said them and show us some proof __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: [313] fair play to juan atkins
Hi, I would think that anyone who knew enough to think someone an amazing dj due to the flawlessness of a mix would understand what digitally mized means. I don't think so... Isn't it all about the resulting product and it's effect on the end-user, anyways? Whether you mix vinyl, cds, or tracks on a computer, realtime or previously recorded... isn't it about how it sounds in the end? No... It's about the ride not just the finale... Wasn't there a similar argument made by traditional musicians when synthesizers first started to pop up(same for drum machines, etc)? A general they're cheating attitude, or something to that effect... Totally, if you judge a dj on how the final product sounds, then fine. If you judge someone on the techinical skill required then that's cool too. Mr. Semen or whatever his name is gonna disappoint if he does a live set and it isn't the same quality as his cd mix. The technology is there tho... Eventually, I think it all distills down into how the final product sounds, not as much how much skill (talent and creativity yes, skill no) and good timing and luck it took to get to that point. That's how many closed minded individuals feel... It's not the years of research scientists have done to get this cure for cancer. Just that it works... If it doesn't work tho... Do you still pay them? It's the misrepresentation of talent part that bugs me... a djs job is to choose tracks, combine them into a set, to the end of creating a synergistic piece that entertains whoever listens. John Cage is really boring and weird but I respect the work he has done... Later, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [313] Oh Lordy...
That won't happen... Moby knows what sells... He tries to please the mainstream... Duke Ellington did what he wanted to do and his stuff has a place in music history... The difference between Ellington and Moby is that Duke Ellington isn't a sellout... People that sellout generally start making crap music... Kinda like when the money got to Michael Jackson's head, he went all weird. Nick:) --- Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The way I see your explanation, the problem is not Moby - but MTV. Say they suddenly decide to label Duke Ellington as techno, and that's the only techno they show in their programs, will it change anything to the quality of Duke Ellington's music ? Should Duke Ellington be blamed because millions of stupid american teenagers will associate big band jazz with techno ? Gwendal When XYZ teenager from XYZville, America looks to MTV for all their music, and sees this guy Moby on the TV, they think oh, this is techno! Surely due to the fact that he is labelled as techno and it's the only thing resembing techno that MTV (and thus the largest purveyor of teen culture in america) chooses to play. So, basically, his commercialization of good music makes the whole electronic movement look dry, even though its just one performer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
The issue (was RE: [313] is moby still Techno)
--- Sean Deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theres Hi all, much more to Moby than Go or that song from The Beach. I think his past work earns him respect for thier place and impact on electronic music. I dont know why people are so up in arms over Moby's success with electronic music. Its the same old I want my favorite musicians to remain unknown and poor because once people less cool than *me* start liking them I'll be obliged to hate them debate we have here periodically. This is the issue with the Richie Hawtin @ Gatecrasher thing. It seems kind of hypocritical to criticise the mainstream for being too sterile, yet as soon as they take an interest in our music, we're up in arms. I think a lot of people think of our music as if it is our child so to speak. We diss them nasty, good-for-nothing kids outside for their behaviour and don't want our kid playing with them (I know it sounds kinda stupid but...). The only way to resolve this issue IMO is for the mainstream to change so that the music industry isn't a world of superstars and underground music and stuff. People need to be allowed to like what they like, not what is said to be cool. We might give the other kids a chance if they were willing to change. Places like Gatecrasher need to stop bringing in dj's that they know will sell and bring some real music in. Not just techno either the whole system is wrong at the moment. Just thinking, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Fw: Ritchie Hawtin lives in the UK (B'ham, in a box behind McDonalds)
I dunno, is this such a bad thing? Maybe Richie is a sell out?! What does it all mean? Maybe he has a message for the kids!?!... I might go to smash his 909 over my knee in Derrick May fashion... Hahaha... Is this OT? Nick (Dj Pacific;) [Dave's house (his bro's bday party)/Mark's flat/6th Form (end of term disco)] --- David Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the 430 West Crew has played Gatecrasher as well But being in the states.. that could just a be rumor Mark Hughes wrote: No it REALLY can't be Gatecrasher, it can't be! Next thing we'll be hearing that he's playing Cream because they are now down with the Underground. Cheers Mark --- paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: U.K. LIVE DATES IN APRIL Fri 13th April: Generation Arena @ Gatecrasher, NEC, Birmingham you've got to be kidding! who else is playing gatecrasher? paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Track ID's from Eddie Fowlkes DEMF set
No clue on the first, but I can help with these RB classics: 2. has the lyric dancing in september i've heard this track alot, but don't know the name or artist. Possibly September by Earth Wind and Fire. May have been a sample, but Eddie is the type to slap down the original. 23 years old. It has recently been rereleased on a label called Vinyl Junkie. It has Boogie Wonderland on the other side:) Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Jeff Mills
I think we have reached the point of no return... bye, Nick(Dj Pacific:) np: More Songs About Food Revolutionary Art... --- Paul McClean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi people. Our radio show has Jeff Mills on tonight, 8-10pm GMT speaking about his new material and general chat including why he never wants to DJ in the UK again. We've also got an interview with Jori Hulkkonen and some prizes. Its a Belfast based show, but we stream on the web www.bbc.co.uk/atl Hoep some of you can join us. paul Paul McClean, Producer, Across the Line BBC Radio Ulster, 92-95fm/1341mw 0044 (0)28 90338939 0044 (0)772 0077430 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bbc.co.uk/atl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC, unless specifically stated. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Drexciya was Venue Info
This is old news... move on... Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- ani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think that posting people's identities on a list like 313 is wrong, and i *will* be a bitch about this until you respect peoples' anonymity. let artists reveal themselves or credit themselves as they see fit, not because you need another tidbit of info... it's in poor taste to talk about people's business in a one-on-one situation, let alone a large mailing list. -- cut pasted from a previous post to 313: i think if you respect an artist (or a collective of artists like underground resistance) you should respect their desire to be anonymous (and any artist who wears a mask wants to remain anonymous). i think discussing people's real names and identities on a very public list with no moderation could cause problems... direct flames to: ani record time [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.recordtime.com ph 810.775.1550 fax 810.775.5830 icq# 33610265 aol im: recordtime313 want to be on the record time mailing list? send an email message from the address you want to subscribe with subscribe in the subject - Original Message - From: _DipfthonG_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: graham [tan] wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [313] Drexciya was Venue Info Well if Somebody would set people straight as to who, Drexciya, Dopplereffekt, Ultrdyne, Elecktroids, Japanese Telecom, etc...are, Then maybe you could get credit for your own werk. To me (and i'm sure allot of others) these groups above are all the werk of the same person/persons. At least that's the concensus. Anyone care to Elaborate ? Dr.Robot ? well being, [`] (_DipfthonG_) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] nu era
--- Minto George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Mac is nu era? I always thought it was Dego. Apparently... And I guess you can say Titonton sounds like he got some of his influences from nu era and dego and marc (4hero). He did... Titonton was on The Deepest Shade of Techno Vol 2. on 4Hero's Reflective label. NuEra did a thing on Trace Elements 3 on 21/22 (label linked to Ele_mental, Titonton, Archetype/Monochrome and Todd Sines are/were all Ele_mentals). If you want to hear the influence back up to 1992 and dig for a copy of Beyond Gravity on Reinforced? or is it Reflective? Reflective... This is a classic album. And it's up there with all the great albums from that time period of techno when people like stefan robbers (terrace) innovated and made DEEP music. Lots of Nu Era stuff can be found on the older Freezone series of compilations available on SSR. great to hear titonton has a new album out...when is It's not out yet... It's coming out April 9th... T has lots of plans for the future (wait until May... lots going on then:) but he's concentrating on touring until the end of April... Dan Curtin gonna get deep again? I loved the Player 12 (we need more russ!) and the Delsin was great too. what else's new with the old ohio clan? todd, charles, 21/22 corp/mr. Ed Luna, where you guys at? Archetype has lots of stuff going on soon too... 21/22 is still on it. There was some stuff out recently there. Todd Sines effort for Titonton TJ's Residual imprint could be forthcoming... Titonton is always busy tho and seems to change his mind at the last minute... As I have said before, if you need info about Titonton. I'm programming the guys site so I know what's happening... Later, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Juan Atkins mix on Enetronic
Does anyone know what the first track on the Juan Atkins mix recorded at Backflip in NY. You can listen to it at Enetronic and Yahoo Radio... What's that tune? I've heard it before... Cheers, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Past, present and future
Hi 313 ppl, Need a bit of help with some work I'm doing... I need to find the tracklisting for the Past, Present and Future compilation CD double pack that came out on the Multiplex label ages ago(MOCD 005). Featured stuff from John Tejada etc. It's kind of important. If someone could send me a jpeg image of the cover too... that'd be great. Thanks, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Electro
And what about Bunker, Plasmek, Electronic Corporation etc... There's loads of new electro about... If you wanna check old stuff... Twilight 22... Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some of my favorite electro stuff comes from Adult, LeCar and the Ersatz Aduio camp (http://www.ersatzaudio.com) I also highly suggest Ectomporph and some of the electro releases from NYC's Spelunk Records as well as some of the music DJ Godfather put out under his many alias' for production (sektor 17, i think) and always Mr.Will Web and AUX 88 and Drexciya:). Dopplereffect is always classic (i want to be a porno-star) too as well as the early cybotron bambaataa material. For a well put together history check out (copy and paste link into): http://www.ele-mental.org/ele_ment/think/original/think.html electric boogaloo, diana __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Electro
Any comps of '80s American electro are usually a sure bet (can't think of any names off hand, but will get back to you). The Street Sounds comps were where the hub of the whole scene as far as I know... You can still buy them... Loads of old schoolers on there inc Cybotron, Twilight 22 etc... Gotta respect real electro... L8r, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Gemini CDJ Package For Sale
What about -15%? Play Silent Phase's Psychotic Funk at 33rpm +8% and it becomes something new... Similar things can be done with Monolake and Theo Parrish... What is your problem? +/-15% is a nice addition... Why do you have to complain about everything? bye, Nick(Dj Pacific:) --- Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Todd Smith wrote: Alot of electro guys actually keep their techs pitched up to 16% so they can get the really some really crazy electro beats happening. Electro has a pretty wide BPM range and IMHO being able to pitch techs up to 16% is great for this purpose. i'll give another opinion; imho 4% is enough. and why would somebody want to break their technics turntables anyway, that 8% is really wide range already. sakke Why ridiculous? Maybe not your taste or mine. Someone out there likes it. Ive even heard some guys notch it up more then 15% for that fast booty house. makes me wanna puke? of course. someone1 else digs it though - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] the LONG short of dj sets
Hi ppl, --- FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This hits upon a problem in many DJ communities: Newcomers let the quality of the set fall ENTIRELY on their records, instead of using their SKILLS to pump up the crowd. Give some people nowadays a crate of records from just 8 years ago they wouldn't know what to do with themselves. Who is teaching these skills to the newcomers? In my town (not Detroit) most DJs are so concerned about getting recognition and respect, and keeping it, that they don't share what they know (if they know) with others. The local DJ crews are impossible to break into... I have a friend who gave a tape to this guy in one collective. The entire collective loved it but my friend was bullshitted about being able to spin with them. Promises unfulfilled. He's a good DJ and has skills to share as do the guys in the collective but since they are so selective (rejective?) there is no chance of cross-pollination of ideas. Where do many newcomers learn to spin? I'd Well, I'm noone special and I haven't been djing properly too long either so I'll explain how I did it. I listened and watched others, no one helped me but I pushed it in their faces if I wanted to get out there.. I played on pirate radio once, I was made friends with one of the guys on it. I was awful but the people in the studio (a bedroom actually:) respected it totally... Made a change from the usual trancy kids that they let play:) say from listening to mix CDs which are usually made to shift product which means they let the entire song play out and use computer programs to mix. Only recently has there been a fair amount of CDs that have the live sound (short mixes, spinbacks, hard cuts, mixes that aren't seamless). I used to buy live mixtapes not mix cd's... Most mix cd's you could get around here were crappy charty stuff... I have spent my whole life looking for music... but even within the underground there's still a lot of crap about... I used to try to filter the best out, this is why I wanted to dj... to play the music I like all together:) So I guess the point is established DJs need to share skills with others, it worked for jazz. These guys that won't share... Forget them... It's gotta be in your soul... bubbye, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] streaming mixes
www.nortroute.net/ which are excellent and don't spend half an hour buffering before telling you that the server has reset:) Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.paxahau.com www.groovetech.com/demf Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go - Original Message - From: Greg Malcolm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: [313] streaming mixes any goos sites out there that offer streaming mixes, besides freq detroit? Greg Malcolm Digital Audio Engineer/Multimedia http://www.ontimetraining.com 330.422.2028x163 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] the LONG short of dj sets
Not everyone wants to be famous... Lots of people paint and draw for pleasure... Nick (Dj Pacific:) Well first, if the drive is there then those bedroom dj's need to go out and provide themselves with that opportunity...that chance. Meet the right people ...start new friendships that can work for you and get you to where you want to be. You don't have to go to the extreme of kissing ass (to phred), you just have to work it so that you have something people want and vice versa AND, be friends/comrades with them at the same time. There's nothing with trying to get an opportunity but don't be desperate about it either. If you're not getting the chance in your hometown, go somewhere else. Its a big move, but it comes down to whether you are serious about having this sort of career. I mean c'mon, you spend all this time and money, heart and soul, in this hobby, why not get some recognition? Stop making excuses, if you're good, then bring it on! Peace, Glyph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] the long dj set
I like to mix quick... but I sometimes wanna play the best bit of a tune, which is often at the end... so I generally end up playing it right through or taking ages mixing between two records to make it really smooth... I reckon it totally depends on the tunes you're playing... l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Ring ring ring ha ha hey!
My mate has got a phone with a built in sampler... you can save a couple of seconds or so onto it and has some really nasty old drum 'n' bass thing on there... grrr... I'll find out the name of the model:) nick (Dj Pacific:) I'm just waiting for the day when you can use a wave file as the actual ring tone. That would be cool. Maybe some mod-hacking needs to be done on those MP3 player/mobile phone combos. out. dave. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[the most OT post of the planet] Re: [313] Haha, you are so lame!! (was future of DJ'ing)
Cyclone, You have to remember that half of the guys on this list now are children between 16-21 y o. This isn't a personal attack either... but if you're as grown up as you say you are you need to just take it like a pinch of salt... just ignore it... Forgot those d*cks... If they bring up a good point then fair enough but there is never any need for them to be abusive... Some people never ever grow up and there are a hell of a lot of w*nkers on this list... It is impossible to strain all of these people out because they make up the bulk of society... I have been that kind of t*sser before... when I was about 16 or 17, I kept sending dirty emails to Isla Fisher (remember her?). She actually replied to some... and was really nice, put me down softly... An answer, when calm, turns away rage..., from the Bible (but I don't know exactly where:) Time to stop now... Tosh etc. can go and find some new friends... Take care, Nick:) --- Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's funny at all. I can't see why we couldn't just continue to discuss it in a grown up manner. If we had misconstrued points they could have been cleared up. People can disagree without it getting personal. I never made a personal attack on Tosh. I thought he had originally raised an interesting issue. What's more, I was singled out when others made similar points - with irrelevant slurs on my nationality (even more irrelevant since I'm wog anyway) and level of intelligence. this is, by FAR, the funniest post of the year!! I am going to carry bony and rabbit fur everywhere I go!! I swear, this is getting printed and going on the wall or something... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] re[313] equipment
Get a Korg ES-1 and sample them all... They're damn cheap and really useful... Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- RocketKids [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lots of laughs -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Datum: Sonntag, 21. Januar 2001 02:51 RON Betreff: Re: [313] equipment 'lovely percussive deep detroit-like filtered organs and strings' does not equal novation bass station. At 12:52 AM + 1/21/01, Saul Goode wrote: you should buy my mint novation super bass station they're $700 new, but i'm selling mine for $350 w/box and manual. 'm also selling a korg kaoss pad offers anyone??? peace From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RocketKids) Reply-To: RocketKids [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] equipment Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:08:42 +0100 hi, im planning to buy some synthesizers or expanders, and im looking for those lovely percussive deep detroit-like filtered organs and strings...you should know what i talk about,,...maybe someone could tell me, what synth i should spend my money on? thanx ron ron lux _ salierstr.30 _ d-75177 pforzheim (+49)_7231_568568 _ cell (+49)_179_5251805 come to www.megahertz.org www.fortransit.com --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM?
The smell of brand new vinyl out of the sleeve, the crackle of the record under the needle... there's something spiritual and special about vinyl that no other media can replicate... Old vinyl especially. I don't want your stupid toy... Who cares about the future... time and forces move around and come back on themselves... just because something is new, doesn't make it good... Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds horrible, going through the box is part of the artform. It would make it too calculated, you can't flick through your box, land on something else and think hmmm, now maybe I can play that instead. The advantage is that it overcomes the dreaded, 'the airline lost my records, damn I will have to borrow Judge Jules' records or make a quick sortie to the local record store' syndrome. Anyone at MIDEM and see the release of Final Scratch? You know how I've been going on about the future of DJ'ing? Well Hawtin and Acquaviva along with N2IT out of The Netherlands did their press release of Final Scratch yesterday. It's not the first time they've used the system, it was used during their Peel show a few months ago, and John has been using it at almost every gig for the last few months. Essentially the only aspect of DJ'ing that it changes is the carrying of vinyl and selecting of tracks to play. Now instead of carrying boxes of vinyl you need only a suitable powerful laptop, and instead of flipping through your record box you just double-click a track and it's ready to go. That is the only aspect of DJ'ing as we all currently know that changes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Titonton @ Betalounge, 25th Jan 2001 8pm (PT)
Hi 313ers, It is my duty to tell everyone bout this so check it if you can... 25th January 2001 8.00pm (Pacific Time(? If this is wrong... I'm sorry)) *Titonton Duvante on Betalounge* and someone called Dj Anna (who I've never heard of) l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] radio2
Okay, THIS WEDNESDAY IS DETROIT... so don't miss it okay? It prolly won't be techno but it'll be Motown at the very least... cya, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- FRANK JACK DANIEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Radio 2 - 9pm wednesday 'sounds of the city' with charly gillet - a journey round the different rhythms of different cities. the first one was great, covering the rhythms of New Orleans and their influence on reggae. Mr gillet and Taj Mahal were tracking the changes. I am pretty sure there was to be one on Detroit, but I missed the last two so I don't know if its been and gone. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Re: 2000 black release on Planet E
I've heard tell that a new Tom and Jerry (4Hero under ANOTHER name)release is coming soon too... Yeah the Broken techno Ep is nice... Some very detroity sounding melodies on there... l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- stephen kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not sure if you all realise - but the track listings for the planet-e version of 'the good good' is going to be different from the 2000 black one, not greatly, but different all the same... you could say that the planet-e version is a round up of previous releases with a couple of exclusives - while the 2000 black version is aimed at people who've been collecting all the twelves - it's all exclusives... both are probably worth picking up... maybe check out nu era's 'broken techno' just out on archive as well - more fantastic stuff from marc mac and dego... i've got a tracklisting for the 2000 black version of 'the good good' on http://twoplayer.net many thanks to everyone who's been tuning into nortroute - hope you enjoy it ;) all the best - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twoplayer.net http://nortroute.net _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Re: 2000 black release on Planet E
Hi there, --- stephen kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: previously... I've heard tell that a new Tom and Jerry (4Hero under ANOTHER name)release is coming soon too... Yeah the Broken techno Ep is nice... Some very detroity sounding melodies on there... snip i hadn't heard about a tom and jerry release - but there's lots going on at reinforced again... marc mac is partly resposible for the recent special touch releases, there's a new twelve by code071 (remember london sumtin'?), the awesome nu-wave ep by alpha omega and the forthcoming 'urban jungle sountrack' comps mixed by strech... yeah... that Nubian mindz lp on Archive recently was awesome!!! And the Total Science thing on Reinforced... Infact, most of the major forces in the jazzbeat movement are all reinforced heads!!! i was made up when i first heard the 4hero mix of amazon - always considered them and reinforced to be the uk's answer to underground resistance, so it made me very happy - although timeline is the better track ;) I dunno if you remember the Deepest Shade of Techno Complilation way back. UR did a few tracks for that:) Dego and Marc have been involved with detroity things for a looong time and have pretty strong feelings and heavy involvement with the scene... and pushing things forward... I've not heard anything by them that's ever disappointed me:) So 2000 Black and jazzbeat as a whole is definitely hugely 313 relevant:) later, Nick (Dj Pacific:) Ps. I heard about that Tom and J thing through Titonton... supposedly doing a remix for them... I know Dego was involved with the Ele_mentals in Columbus at one point and NuEra released something on 21/22:) Anyway, I'll find out the label if you want... I think it's a label called Foreplay... I'm currently programming Titonton's official site for my final year project (and taking far too long over it:) so if anyone has any questions about him... __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Re: 2000 black release on Planet E
Vinyl Junkies has copies in too... maybe I shouldn't have told you this tho... I only just placed my order!!! I hope there's a copy left for me http://www.vinyl-junkies.co.uk/ l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- stephen kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: previously... Where can I find both formats? snip like somebody said earlier - i think amazon are taking pre-orders for the planet-e version, the 2000 black i'd recommend you give a good shop like rushhour a ring (or drop them an email) - i'm sure they can help you out... you're all pretty keen to get you hands on this aren't you :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twoplayer.net http://nortroute.net _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] track id's laurent garnier
Hi there, It's the second track in the mix, first track being Phuture's 'String Free', it has a kind of new wave male vocal in it singing: my force is in my soul, my force is in my heart, come to me, come to me, love me, don't leave me, leave me alone, the track itself is a driving techhouse thing, vox reminds me of Jimi Tenor or New Order. I haven't heard the mix (no speakers on this machine) but I can tell it is... Technasia - Force - Technasia (hear more at http://www.technasia.com/ ) This was big for a little while last year... And around 33 min into that mix there is another gem I don't know. Reminds me of some of the softer stuff of Johannes Heil. A typical Garnier-as-a-dj-track. Right, part 2. I have this tape from a radio show called Nightgroove, I believe in Frankfurt in Germany. Laurent once again spinning the tracks. The first 6 tracks of that mix are pure magic, and I only know one of them... Here we go: Track 1: electro-track, machine vox saying: You've got no work, because of me. I'm a machine, I never sleep. And now you pray all night and day. A funny way, I'm human made Track 2: definitely Björk, but probably a remix, lyrics: I'm a hunter, I bring back the goods, I'm not stopping, Leaving it all behind, someone told me this was a rare remix by Funkstörung? Label? Possibly Studio !K7, I think A Guy Called Gerald did some remixes too... Track 3: typical track for Garnier to play, heavenly synth line, and a driving loop coming in around half of the track going higher and higher, no vox here :-(( Track 4 is ME's 'Ride' on Trax-records. Track 5: WHAT IS THIS? Detroit-styled rhythms and drums, synth lines equalling Jaguar, and then suddenly someone starts stabbing a synth/organ sound in a Carl Craig way. Track 6: purpose maker styled with an overwhelming synth kicking in I'll have a listen on Thursday to the rest and try to find out for you unless someone beats me to it:) take care, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Calling Holly (sorry about this)
Hi, Holly recently changed her email addy. She posted something recently but I deleted it and I have some important stuff going on that she may be able to help me with. Sorry to all people who this doesn't concern but if anyone can tell me her new email addy it'd be appreciated. Thanks, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] dodgy mixing
--- darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he was still desperately listening to his headphones (with both ears...) He might have been desperately listening, but I just want to point out that there are DJ's that listen to nothing but headphones. Yeah, me included... I find it pointless to do one ear mixing when you can switch between channels within the headphones. Some people find mixing in the headphones difficult... Everyone does it differently... I know ppl that just use the channel faders and not the crossfader to mix... Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
[OT sort of] Fwd: psy trance
Hi ppl, Don't mean to be a bore but I got this the other day. Backs up my statement that goa/psy is a direct descendant of heavy metal... I dunno how this guy got my email or found out about the discussion but he sent it to me all the same... Check it... I won't be posting anymore about this subject tho even if God himself mails me with more evidence... L8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- james [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: james [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Nick Walsh' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: psy trance Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:40:22 - Nick, For those friends of those believe you about the links between psy trance and hard rock I suggest you play them Martin Freeland (aka Man With No Name)'s stuff as No God. Much of the current influence went through the Israeli industrial scene of the late '80s but the metal influence is constant through the lot. Listening to any Astral Projection tracks off Trust In Trance should persuade your mates. Also you might not know but most of the original Return To The Source lot were heavy metallers before discovering E. The name comes from a psychedelic rock/thrash metal band three of the key members (I can't remember which ones but I reckon Stevie was one of them) were in. I hope this gives you the ammo you need Regards, James Kendall Freelance Journalist DJmag [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.audiostreet.com 01293 40 20 40 psy trance is for life not just for christmas __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
RE: [313] Detroit techno isn't techno?
I spose everyone has their different ideas... Looking back in time the origins are blurred. It doesn't really matter anyhow... What characterises the detroit sound?.. What does detroit techno actually sound like? I prefer music to be a stew of influences, which everyone interprets differently and creates new offshoots where their own ideas and mentality come into play... Techno probably doesn't necessarily have to be electronic... what is techno?... I assume it's possible to make techno without using electronic instuments(?). What is music anyway? Where do you draw the line between music and just sound and noise? Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Sean Deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes Virginia, Detroit Techno is very funky! reminds me of a conversation I had with a girl at a bar couple weeks back. she was trying to explain to me the difference between techno and electronic music i couldnt seem to get my head around what she was saying (to me techno *is* electronic music) since she obviously knew more on the subject than I ever would she was adamant that techno meant hard/harsh/fast and that electronic was more pretty/musical/ambient sounding. I finally conceeded to her superior knowledge on the subject. learn something new everyday. I've had numerous conversations like this where people explain to me what techno is or isnt and explain to me why the rest of the world is so much more clued in to the whole techno thing than Detroit is :^) guess we just havent caught on yet. -sean -Original Message- From: ab [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 9:37 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Detroit techno isn't techno? Lay wrote: In an interview I made with Derrick some time ago, I asked him about the influence of House in his music. Here's the answer: «L: What influence has House Music had in your music making? DM: It had an influence. The club scene in Chicago was extremely powerfull when I was young and had a great impression in my way of thinking and the way I felt about the music. It pushed me even deeper on the soulfull side. That's why I think the electronic music that I was doing was realy... personal.» Derrick May, as the most prominant (and best?) Detroit techno DJ, has always rated Ron Hardy as probably the BEST club DJ ever. What goes around, comes around... ~Askew the first time i saw derrick may live i thought he was playing 'house'. I have no idea about techno or house but it sounded like what i would call house music. It was later explained to me that he was playing techno - i never thought techno was all funked up!! i still have no idea! ab - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] 313 rumor...
yeah, you'd get mayonnaise all over it otherwise... could permanently damage the tape! l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- * ani * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, i heard this story, but i heard that he gave carl a tape between 2 slices of bread in addition to his order. check out the cover art on recloose's so this is the dining room 12 - audio tape between 2 pieces of bread. ani record time [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq# 33610265 ph 810.775.1550 fax 810.775.5830 - Original Message - From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 5:42 AM Subject: [313] 313 rumor... This one is 313, and it does not even concern Atkins' drug addiction : I'd like to have some confirmation for the following story : Matt from detroit is recloose, who has released four 12inches on carl craig' s planet e. matt was working in a deli right next to the planet e office, where carl craig and hannah went out to having brunch every day. one day carl craig found a tape in the sandwich just between ham, salad and mayonnaise. this was from matt. that's why the first recloose release on planet e had a comic sandwich on the cover! And as a general rule : this rumor seems very similar to the one about Kid Koala and Ninja Tune - is there some common urban legend there, or are there other verified examples of producers DJs getting attention by finding some weird way of giving their tapes to label people ? Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . erreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] [[313] Jazzy Detroit Techno weather report]]]
--- glyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not strictly 313, but check dan curtin, morgan geist, and titonton duvante's stuff. all jazzy, all pretty nicely detroit-influenced. Dan Curtin definitely lots of new stuff coming out by him at the mo. Titonton is more melodic tech tho... Heavily influenced by early 4Hero and, going back, the likes of John Cage and Stravinsky... His release on 2000 Black was the jazziest... Also, check Archive recs Italy. Jazzbeat but there's a techno twist in some of the stuff there... Check the new Nu Era release... Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Jazzy Detroit Techno weather report
i saw a programme on improvisation a few years ago (I think it was produced/presented by Derek Bailey) where house djs in New York said that their sets are not usually planned beforehand but take form through interaction with the responses of the dancers (as well I guess with other djs and whatever inspires them at the moment). chris t Most good dj's do this, Chris T... Only beginners need to prearrange their sets. You're meant to just throw records down... depending on how you feel at the time. You've just gotta freestyle. The kind of freestyling you do in your bedroom, you know how I mean? Still, a lot of good dj's also have a general idea of what they want to play by keeping some records for the end of the set and some for warming it up at the beginning... If you can't do this you shouldn't think yourself any good. You have to really push yourself if you wanna be good but many dj's these days seem to serve half measures and don't try their best... Johnny Fiasco's Shifted and Dan Curtin's Extrapolation remixes have been my favourite bombs for ages. Absolutely raw...:) l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
