Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Get the record and if you still think it's wack, e-mail me. ;) -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 6:36 AM youre definitely crazy on that one. i think its great. you can look at how UK hardcore took stuff from hiphop, usually speeding it up, and how now hiphop is taking divas and speeding them up, almost in homage to UK hardcore. i seriously doubt kayne west is up on UK hardcore i'm sorry- but chipmunking out chaka chan and freaking Annie (from back in his Jay-Z producing days) is a flippin scourge of music and culture. plus, andres does that stuff all the time, and i thought it sounded good when he did it. tmo andythepooh.com
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?/HIP HOP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? i'd be interested! you can reply of list if no one else is interested. jurren Let's do it - it's just as 'on topic' as some of the other stuff people want to discuss. Futuristic hip-hop I'm appreciating at the moment: *Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain OK, I have just discovered that this is in fact -MF Doom! No wonder I like it so much. Muffled 303 and 808s, unashamed synthiness and a love of eschewing the obvious, make this something I'd recommend to this list. One small patch of dubious lyrical content but mostly it's sound. You might also want to check out Madlib and MF Doom's Madvillain project. LP is due in a few days: http://www.stonesthrow.com/madvillain/ I heard an EP of a collaboration of Doom Lib a few weeks ago - *on Bluenote* (but I'd totalled my record allowance so didn't buy). That was also very good. Sorry the name escapes me. Check here: http://www.bluenote.com/artistpage.asp?ArtistID=3718tab=1 *Mr Lif - I Phantom. This is now quite old (2002?) Emile recently turned me on to it. It's brilliant. A lot of the same qualities as MFD but a lot more aware lyrically and I think more club-friendly too. *Boom Bip - Seed To Sun - again I'm late on this. Mostly good. But some noodly and indie-sounding moments which is not for me. Mostly very painterly with shades of dementia. And I do regard it as hip-hop. Mostly! *Masterminds - Subliminal EP. With Mr Lif 'No Test Redux'. Again I'm so late with this (it's from 2001) - but then again, I think many copies have been loitering in vaults for the last three years as the shop said they'd never seen them till now. - 'Subliminal' is filtered rock-riff hip-hop before OutKast and it's highly, highly recommended. 'No Test Redux' is a avant-downbeat loop to lose track of time to. Sweetly put together. k
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Blackwater is hideously over-played, though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
That's incredible! But expected too. Two people can assess a work of art and come to opposite conclusions about it. I'd be interested to know more about WHY you think it's cheesy and/or cheap, and not in a confrontational way at all! These questions are very interesting to me. Thanks, Andrew -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Haha, nah man, we're talking about Alicia Keys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
off course but why do think that is?...I think it just shows how good it really is but I do agree with you Ryan -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Blackwater is hideously over-played, though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
ahh well then that's me out, sorry I don't do rb 0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:45 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Haha, nah man, we're talking about Alicia Keys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana
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R B !!! That's SOUL, thank you very much! ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:49 To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? ahh well then that's me out, sorry I don't do rb 0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:45 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Haha, nah man, we're talking about Alicia Keys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those
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Not at all? Don't dismiss an entire genre, fella. There's great music everywhere -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:49 AM To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? ahh well then that's me out, sorry I don't do rb 0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:45 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Haha, nah man, we're talking about Alicia Keys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard
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:0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:49 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? R B !!! That's SOUL, thank you very much! ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:49 To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? ahh well then that's me out, sorry I don't do rb 0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:45 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Haha, nah man, we're talking about Alicia Keys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote
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well I used to listen to lots of stuff, Princess, Shalamar, Luther Vandross, Michael Jackson but the latest stuff except for Kelis and oh damm I can't remember (you see that how much I pay attention to it!) oh and some beyonce/destiny's child..but that its -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313 Detroit Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Not at all? Don't dismiss an entire genre, fella. There's great music everywhere -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:49 AM To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? ahh well then that's me out, sorry I don't do rb 0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:45 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Haha, nah man, we're talking about Alicia Keys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy
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I'm not really up on RB, but heard a track on a flight recently by a London based female artist called Maya (sp?) or something. Anyone heard of her? The track was sh*t hot! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:54 To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? :0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:49 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? R B !!! That's SOUL, thank you very much! ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:49 To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? ahh well then that's me out, sorry I don't do rb 0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:45 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Haha, nah man, we're talking about Alicia Keys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 00:29 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Well every time I mention a hip-hop/RB CD here Carl Craig ends up charting it or playing it, so... ;) I think that 'chipmunk' thing came from RZA distorting samples, I like it, but there's none of that on West productions like You Don't Know My Name by A Keys (a Theo Parrish fave incidentally) or Encore by Jay-Z, etc. The album is superb. i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip
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Blackwater is hideously over-played, though. I think there's still some mileage in the excellent remixes Ryan. My favourites: 'Terrence Parker's Wave Brush Edit' (or something like that) and the Alter Ego mix. Ken
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ahh yeah and also Ms Dynamite she is cool...I guess I do some souls then! ha ha without even knowing it...ahh that's me all over :) and I really like amy winehouse...wow what a voice! -Original Message- From: Paul Fyffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Andrew'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I'm not really up on RB, but heard a track on a flight recently by a London based female artist called Maya (sp?) or something. Anyone heard of her? The track was sh*t hot! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:54 To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? :0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:49 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? R B !!! That's SOUL, thank you very much! ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:49 To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? ahh well then that's me out, sorry I don't do rb 0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:45 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Haha, nah man, we're talking about Alicia Keys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_ in a song like 'You Don't Know My Name', it's soaring, beautiful, and melancholy. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
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Shush you guys - you might upset the quiet guys at the back who want us to talk about strictly 313 music. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:09 PM To: Paul Fyffe; Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? ahh yeah and also Ms Dynamite she is cool...I guess I do some souls then! ha ha without even knowing it...ahh that's me all over :) and I really like amy winehouse...wow what a voice! -Original Message- From: Paul Fyffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Andrew'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I'm not really up on RB, but heard a track on a flight recently by a London based female artist called Maya (sp?) or something. Anyone heard of her? The track was sh*t hot! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:54 To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? :0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:49 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? R B !!! That's SOUL, thank you very much! ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:49 To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? ahh well then that's me out, sorry I don't do rb 0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:45 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Haha, nah man, we're talking about Alicia Keys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I s not agree. I think it's cheesy and cheap If Techno would ever evoke these feelings in me, I would not like it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 12:01 An: 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Betreff: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME IS THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD IN AGES! My god what a heartbreaker! Techno has a hard time inspiring the same emotions, generally speaking of course...there's such _ambition_
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yeah you see when you say R Kelly it makes me really crawl and that kinda crap crates me up the wrong way but like techno I shouldn't listen to a track and hate it and then say naa I hate techno cos I don't so I try to listen to it and not sum it up as it being RB, sorry Andrew SOUL.. :) Haha, thanks Ian! I guess I should clarify - what was referred to as 'pleading music', basically the soul version of cheesy stuff like Paul Van Dyk etc., is what I label in my head as 'R B'. And then tracks like 'You Don't Know My Name', D'Angelo, Jill Scott, Badu, Kindred, Tweet, Balil, Raphael Saadiq, and the 'Organic' crew I call SOUL! I don't like to lump in all these artists together just because they're recording in the same era, for me they are getting at something completely different. So there. :) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; Andrew Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? There's a lot of RnB (R Kelly is the prime suspect), that is truly horrible - what Tristan calls 'pleading' music - 'ooh babe plse take mee baak' but there are some fresh producers out there seeing the likes of Kelly off. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:02 PM To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; Robert Taylor; Andrew Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? also Soul 2 Soul and stuff but the other stuff today it just grates me the wrong way but I do listen to it and then say no not for me..so I don't poo poo it striaght away and say naa turn it offits like a naked women I'd happily see her ankeds but make my own decision if I liked her still...;) -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:58 To: 'Robert Taylor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I find most rb too slick but I picked up the Cody Chestnutt CD Headphone masterpiece a while ago and it rocks. Self produced in a bedroom studio on a 4 track...alegedly. But an good listen. Rav -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Not at all? Don't dismiss an entire genre, fella. There's great music everywhere -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:49 AM To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? ahh well then that's me out, sorry I don't do rb 0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:45 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Haha, nah man, we're talking about Alicia Keys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:44 To: Katrin Richter; Andrew; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? is this the Armand Van Helden one? if so I agree I don't really like it either but hey each to their own but I think Blackwater is soaring, beautiful, and melancholy than that track and its techno :) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:38 To: Andrew; 'Cyclone Wehner'; '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: AW: (313) what's your favorite track/album
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aha cool :) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 12:18 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? yeah you see when you say R Kelly it makes me really crawl and that kinda crap crates me up the wrong way but like techno I shouldn't listen to a track and hate it and then say naa I hate techno cos I don't so I try to listen to it and not sum it up as it being RB, sorry Andrew SOUL.. :) Haha, thanks Ian! I guess I should clarify - what was referred to as 'pleading music', basically the soul version of cheesy stuff like Paul Van Dyk etc., is what I label in my head as 'R B'. And then tracks like 'You Don't Know My Name', D'Angelo, Jill Scott, Badu, Kindred, Tweet, Balil, Raphael Saadiq, and the 'Organic' crew I call SOUL! I don't like to lump in all these artists together just because they're recording in the same era, for me they are getting at something completely different. So there. :) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; Andrew Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? There's a lot of RnB (R Kelly is the prime suspect), that is truly horrible - what Tristan calls 'pleading' music - 'ooh babe plse take mee baak' but there are some fresh producers out there seeing the likes of Kelly off. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:02 PM To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; Robert Taylor; Andrew Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? also Soul 2 Soul and stuff but the other stuff today it just grates me the wrong way but I do listen to it and then say no not for me..so I don't poo poo it striaght away and say naa turn it offits like a naked women I'd happily see her ankeds but make my own decision if I liked her still...;) -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:58 To: 'Robert Taylor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I find most rb too slick but I picked up the Cody Chestnutt CD Headphone masterpiece a while ago and it rocks. Self produced in a bedroom studio on a 4 track...alegedly. But an good listen. Rav -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Not at all? Don't dismiss an entire genre, fella. There's great music everywhere -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:49 AM To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? ahh well then that's me out, sorry I don't do rb 0) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:45 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Haha, nah man, we're talking about Alicia Keys! -Original Message
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So anyway, back to the discussion - does anyone think there is common ground in the feelings evoked by what I call 'soul' music and techno? There are obviously excellent examples of this in techno (the Relics EP by Abacus immediately springs to mind). Without degenrating into the old soul vs. machine 'debate', is there more to the fact that these separate styles exist, in that they express different emotions or feelings? A lot of techno is basically saying 'Come the f*ck on!', and all the better for it. Is it merely the distinction between lyric-laden music and 'tracks'? I guess what's on my mind is - what the f*ck is techno music SAYING?? Hope this is a suitable question, Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 12:31 To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? aha cool :) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 12:18 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? yeah you see when you say R Kelly it makes me really crawl and that kinda crap crates me up the wrong way but like techno I shouldn't listen to a track and hate it and then say naa I hate techno cos I don't so I try to listen to it and not sum it up as it being RB, sorry Andrew SOUL.. :) Haha, thanks Ian! I guess I should clarify - what was referred to as 'pleading music', basically the soul version of cheesy stuff like Paul Van Dyk etc., is what I label in my head as 'R B'. And then tracks like 'You Don't Know My Name', D'Angelo, Jill Scott, Badu, Kindred, Tweet, Balil, Raphael Saadiq, and the 'Organic' crew I call SOUL! I don't like to lump in all these artists together just because they're recording in the same era, for me they are getting at something completely different. So there. :) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; Andrew Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? There's a lot of RnB (R Kelly is the prime suspect), that is truly horrible - what Tristan calls 'pleading' music - 'ooh babe plse take mee baak' but there are some fresh producers out there seeing the likes of Kelly off. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:02 PM To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; Robert Taylor; Andrew Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? also Soul 2 Soul and stuff but the other stuff today it just grates me the wrong way but I do listen to it and then say no not for me..so I don't poo poo it striaght away and say naa turn it offits like a naked women I'd happily see her ankeds but make my own decision if I liked her still...;) -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:58 To: 'Robert Taylor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I find most rb too slick but I picked up the Cody Chestnutt CD Headphone masterpiece a while ago and it rocks. Self produced in a bedroom studio on a 4 track...alegedly. But an good listen. Rav -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Not at all? Don't dismiss an entire genre, fella. There's great music everywhere -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:49 AM To: Andrew; 313 Detroit
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The only conclusions I can draw from this kind of debate is that our language is inadequate for describing music. Both Soul and Techno are inadequate labels because the words have emotionally/culturally loaded meanings, whereas the music just is - a techno track might inspire a similar emotion as a soul song but why is in the realms of musicology, which takes me way out my depth. -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:49 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Techno's Voice (WAS - RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?) So anyway, back to the discussion - does anyone think there is common ground in the feelings evoked by what I call 'soul' music and techno? There are obviously excellent examples of this in techno (the Relics EP by Abacus immediately springs to mind). Without degenrating into the old soul vs. machine 'debate', is there more to the fact that these separate styles exist, in that they express different emotions or feelings? A lot of techno is basically saying 'Come the f*ck on!', and all the better for it. Is it merely the distinction between lyric-laden music and 'tracks'? I guess what's on my mind is - what the f*ck is techno music SAYING?? Hope this is a suitable question, Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 12:31 To: Andrew; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? aha cool :) -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 12:18 To: '313 Detroit' Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? yeah you see when you say R Kelly it makes me really crawl and that kinda crap crates me up the wrong way but like techno I shouldn't listen to a track and hate it and then say naa I hate techno cos I don't so I try to listen to it and not sum it up as it being RB, sorry Andrew SOUL.. :) Haha, thanks Ian! I guess I should clarify - what was referred to as 'pleading music', basically the soul version of cheesy stuff like Paul Van Dyk etc., is what I label in my head as 'R B'. And then tracks like 'You Don't Know My Name', D'Angelo, Jill Scott, Badu, Kindred, Tweet, Balil, Raphael Saadiq, and the 'Organic' crew I call SOUL! I don't like to lump in all these artists together just because they're recording in the same era, for me they are getting at something completely different. So there. :) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; Andrew Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? There's a lot of RnB (R Kelly is the prime suspect), that is truly horrible - what Tristan calls 'pleading' music - 'ooh babe plse take mee baak' but there are some fresh producers out there seeing the likes of Kelly off. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:02 PM To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; Robert Taylor; Andrew Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? also Soul 2 Soul and stuff but the other stuff today it just grates me the wrong way but I do listen to it and then say no not for me..so I don't poo poo it striaght away and say naa turn it offits like a naked women I'd happily see her ankeds but make my own decision if I liked her still...;) -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 11:58 To: 'Robert Taylor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew Cc: Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I find most rb too slick but I picked up the Cody Chestnutt CD Headphone masterpiece a while ago and it rocks. Self produced in a bedroom studio on a 4 track...alegedly. But an good listen. Rav -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 11:51
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thanks ken for the info, i'll keep my eyes out for those releases. two things i've heard recently [both 313 related] are the lacksydaisycal album, which was nice, reminding a bit of common on one or two songs, and jaydee has a hand in it aswell. some very nice tunes, but not the best hiphop album ever. worth to check if you like sv, j-dilla, common. another one is the jimmy edgar 12 on warp, as it was mentioned on littledetroit. after reading the description on the site, i had high hopes, but to my ears only the third track came close to achieving some of the praise it had been given. should probably listen to it once more. also saw a jaydee produced phat kat release on house shoe records (?) from detroit on the rushhour mailout. if i'm not mistaken this is the last track that was on the 2000demf mix by dego that used to be up on groovetech. anyone know more about phat kat/house shoe? i've got a remix by dwele that also features phat kat, so i assume he's done loads of things allready, anything i should keep an eye out for? http://www.bling47.com for more detroit hiphop. jurren _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
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is my ban from 313 gone yet? My current fave is a rediscovered oldie out of the RZA´s magic hat, Shyheims Young Godz. Crazy beat, crazy mc´s, classic stuff!! I usually can tell most off the stuff that´s going on in a beat but this one remains a mystery... also on rotation is Missy´s Wake up from the last album which is incredible. Picture Eric B and Rakim´s Microphone fiend brake in outer space. Neptunes did it again, they may not be very original but they are d**m good. Another slammer for me is track by Elephant man with the T.O.K posse, pure blade runner dance hall Elephanti has been occupiing my decks a lot lately anyway, next to Baby Cham and the lot from Greensleeves ruff´n´ready!!! -Original Message- From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 10 maart 2004 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?/HIP HOP thanks ken for the info, i'll keep my eyes out for those releases. two things i've heard recently [both 313 related] are the lacksydaisycal album, which was nice, reminding a bit of common on one or two songs, and jaydee has a hand in it aswell. some very nice tunes, but not the best hiphop album ever. worth to check if you like sv, j-dilla, common. another one is the jimmy edgar 12 on warp, as it was mentioned on littledetroit. after reading the description on the site, i had high hopes, but to my ears only the third track came close to achieving some of the praise it had been given. should probably listen to it once more. also saw a jaydee produced phat kat release on house shoe records (?) from detroit on the rushhour mailout. if i'm not mistaken this is the last track that was on the 2000demf mix by dego that used to be up on groovetech. anyone know more about phat kat/house shoe? i've got a remix by dwele that also features phat kat, so i assume he's done loads of things allready, anything i should keep an eye out for? http://www.bling47.com for more detroit hiphop. jurren _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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also on rotation is Missy´s Wake up from the last album which is incredible. Yeah, this is my favourite cut on the album for sure - Jay-Z manages to rhyme 'David Beckham' with 'rectum' which is always a bonus :)
RE: (313) Techno's Voice (WAS - RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?)
Robert said: The only conclusions I can draw from this kind of debate is that our language is inadequate for describing music. Both Soul and Techno are inadequate labels because the words have emotionally/culturally loaded meanings, whereas the music just is - a techno track might inspire a similar emotion as a soul song but why is in the realms of musicology, which takes me way out my depth. -- Yeah, me too! But it's certainly interesting, when thinking about what makes a certain track do it for you. There can be the scientific angle of 'wow, amazing sound design and production', or the pure energy of a dirty, jackin, lo-fi Chicago track, or the aspirational, uplifting melodies of the classic Detroit techno number. It's interesting when thinking about new stuff, like, what is it doing that hasn't been done before? What is it expressing? It could be that it's slightly more transparent in vocalised music, also more directed as you say. Wow, what a thought - music describing music!
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on the phat kat front - check Phat Kat aka Ronnie Cash - Dedication To The Suckers on House Shoes - another Jay Dee prod, heavy! Also has a handy Detroit Road Map on the cover... Other synthy hip hop: Def Harmonic on Altered Vibes, some very technoey synth moments on their stuff - deeply pleasing, the track 'Doing The Best I Can' is great, though some of their other tracks are marred by weak MCing in places. Altered Vibes is part of the Goya stable as far as I know, but these people sound American, anyone know where they're from? Blockhead also deserve an honourable mention in this category. Anyone else heard the new Pete Rock import on Up Above? - b-side is lurvely. P.S. Before anyone asks, Pete Rock is Richie Hawtin's evil twin, Blockhead is the secret UK downtempo project of Eddie Fowlkes and Def Harmonic use old transmat CDs as beer coasters, so ner! At 01:49 pm + 10/3/04, jurren baars wrote: thanks ken for the info, i'll keep my eyes out for those releases. two things i've heard recently [both 313 related] are the lacksydaisycal album, which was nice, reminding a bit of common on one or two songs, and jaydee has a hand in it aswell. some very nice tunes, but not the best hiphop album ever. worth to check if you like sv, j-dilla, common. another one is the jimmy edgar 12 on warp, as it was mentioned on littledetroit. after reading the description on the site, i had high hopes, but to my ears only the third track came close to achieving some of the praise it had been given. should probably listen to it once more. also saw a jaydee produced phat kat release on house shoe records (?) from detroit on the rushhour mailout. if i'm not mistaken this is the last track that was on the 2000demf mix by dego that used to be up on groovetech. anyone know more about phat kat/house shoe? i've got a remix by dwele that also features phat kat, so i assume he's done loads of things allready, anything i should keep an eye out for? http://www.bling47.com for more detroit hiphop. jurren _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
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Def Harmonic on Altered Vibes, some very technoey synth moments on their stuff - deeply pleasing, the track 'Doing The Best I Can' is great, though some of their other tracks are marred by weak MCing in places. Altered Vibes is part of the Goya stable as far as I know, but these people sound American, anyone know where they're from? I think they're connected to the Wobblyhead label in Milwaukee. I saw them in chicago last year knowing nothing about them, and I was rather impressed to say the least :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Other synthy hip hop: Def Harmonic on Altered Vibes, some very technoey synth moments on their stuff - deeply pleasing, the track 'Doing The Best I Can' is great, though some of their other tracks are marred by weak MCing in places. Altered Vibes is part of the Goya stable as far as I know, but these people sound American, anyone know where they're from? while cutting and pasting i suddenly realised def harmonic is NOT harmonic 33... m. pritchard (sp?) has a nice 12 out as harmonic33 on some german label. ooh this mail comes too late in the day... i'll see what i can come up with when i'm home. as it's a nice 12 that pritchard thingy especially the song 'where have they gone' i think tom churchil played a newer release on the same label in one of his recent mixes he posted here. _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
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Mark Pritchard? Of Reload/Global Communication/Jedi Knights/Roobarb Custard/the other Aphex Twin fame? -Original Message- From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?/HIP HOP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Other synthy hip hop: Def Harmonic on Altered Vibes, some very technoey synth moments on their stuff - deeply pleasing, the track 'Doing The Best I Can' is great, though some of their other tracks are marred by weak MCing in places. Altered Vibes is part of the Goya stable as far as I know, but these people sound American, anyone know where they're from? while cutting and pasting i suddenly realised def harmonic is NOT harmonic 33... m. pritchard (sp?) has a nice 12 out as harmonic33 on some german label. ooh this mail comes too late in the day... i'll see what i can come up with when i'm home. as it's a nice 12 that pritchard thingy especially the song 'where have they gone' i think tom churchil played a newer release on the same label in one of his recent mixes he posted here. _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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because you put a question-mark in there... http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=5644 On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, jurren baars wrote: thanks ken for the info, i'll keep my eyes out for those releases. two things i've heard recently [both 313 related] are the lacksydaisycal album, which was nice, reminding a bit of common on one or two songs, and jaydee has a hand in it aswell. some very nice tunes, but not the best hiphop album ever. worth to check if you like sv, j-dilla, common. another one is the jimmy edgar 12 on warp, as it was mentioned on littledetroit. after reading the description on the site, i had high hopes, but to my ears only the third track came close to achieving some of the praise it had been given. should probably listen to it once more. also saw a jaydee produced phat kat release on house shoe records (?) from detroit on the rushhour mailout. if i'm not mistaken this is the last track that was on the 2000demf mix by dego that used to be up on groovetech. anyone know more about phat kat/house shoe? i've got a remix by dwele that also features phat kat, so i assume he's done loads of things allready, anything i should keep an eye out for? http://www.bling47.com for more detroit hiphop. jurren _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?/HIP HOP
m. pritchard (sp?) has a nice 12 out as harmonic33 on some german label. That's Alphabet Zoo - there's actually a couple of 12s and a CD album from Harmonic33 so far... The Danny Breaks releases on Alphabet Zoo are also well worth checking - 'The Jellyfish' from his 'Another Dimension' release kicks off the 20.02.04 radio show at www.spatialsounds.com (under 'sounds') - nice stuff in the Dabrye/Prefuse 73 kinda mould... Here's some links: http://www.discogs.com/label/Alphabet_Zoo http://www.rekkid.co.uk/alphabetzoo/ http://www.gmediamusic.com/partnerships/harmonic33.html And Rob, yes it's Mark Pritchard of Reload/GlobComm etc fame - doing much better solo work than Tom Middleton these days IMHO :) Cheers, Tom
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There was a Harmonic33 12 on Alphabet Zoo called 'Kaleidoscopic Sounds EP', the first release on the label in fact, and yes it is indeed Mark Pritchard of Global Comms/Jedi Knights etc fame. I'm reliably informed that he is a massive hip hop head. I believe that Alphabet Zoo is Danny Breaks' label (for all you old Junglists out there). Wonderful 12 if you ever come across it, deep late night hip hop instrumentals in a crisp Primo/Spinna/Pete Rock style (and that isn't an idle comparison). Erm, let me think, ah yes, Mark Pritchard has a picture of Mad Mike tattoed on his left buttock and Danny Breaks is Juan Atkins' Uncle. At 06:10 pm + 10/3/04, jurren baars wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Other synthy hip hop: Def Harmonic on Altered Vibes, some very technoey synth moments on their stuff - deeply pleasing, the track 'Doing The Best I Can' is great, though some of their other tracks are marred by weak MCing in places. Altered Vibes is part of the Goya stable as far as I know, but these people sound American, anyone know where they're from? while cutting and pasting i suddenly realised def harmonic is NOT harmonic 33... m. pritchard (sp?) has a nice 12 out as harmonic33 on some german label. ooh this mail comes too late in the day... i'll see what i can come up with when i'm home. as it's a nice 12 that pritchard thingy especially the song 'where have they gone' i think tom churchil played a newer release on the same label in one of his recent mixes he posted here. _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Not Kanzleramt, but definatebly on the Damon Wild tip: Last sat I bought this new Synewaye doublepack, Synewave Artist Sampler 2 (I think it is)... I like the C2 and the D1 very much, and last night I found myself playing these over and over again -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: eric trout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 9 maart 2004 9:56 CC: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
I heard the faith cut on Matt McQueen's show - it's excellent - who are Deep Chord? I heard about 4 of their tracks on a mix that heavily feautured M/BC/CR material, so I thought it might yet another sublabel. This ain't 313 you know - so does this email count as noise? -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:20 AM To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
RP 12 - Tobacco Ties is keeping me smiling at the moment, as is Peacefrog 10.100 album. Quite mellow for me, all good. RB -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 10:20 To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Deepchord is a Detroit label I think (so it is 313 ;-) - I found their first one about 5 years ago now, so they've been around a pretty long time, but they are really against any kind of promotion, so their EPs tend to filter into the stores pretty subtly. Excellent stuff though, kinda Basic Channel'y with a slightly smoother edge... Not sure if it's all the same artist, as there is minimal info on the one's I've got, but it's certainly a consistent sound across all the cuts... - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; synthetic tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:28 AM Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I heard the faith cut on Matt McQueen's show - it's excellent - who are Deep Chord? I heard about 4 of their tracks on a mix that heavily feautured M/BC/CR material, so I thought it might yet another sublabel. This ain't 313 you know - so does this email count as noise? -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:20 AM To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
I *think* Deepchord are actually from Detroit so we may be able to get another few emails on this topic through before the Feds bust in and shut down the thread! Deepchord aren't a BC sublabel but it's safe to say that their music is _heavily_ influenced by Basic Channel and Chain Reaction. That's not a criticism; I like that style of music, feel that the world has room in it for a few more records like that, and the Deepchord people do it well. I regularly use Deepchord tracks when doing dubby BC-style mixes (and used quite a lot on Offworld Party Time as well) but apart from the suspicion that they're 313 natives I don't know much about them at all. God, I hope it doesn't turn out that they're actually from Flint, Ypsilanti, Windsor or Dearborn... Brendan -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 10:28 To: Brendan Nelson; synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I heard the faith cut on Matt McQueen's show - it's excellent - who are Deep Chord? I heard about 4 of their tracks on a mix that heavily feautured M/BC/CR material, so I thought it might yet another sublabel. This ain't 313 you know - so does this email count as noise? -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:20 AM To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
that peacefrog 10.100 comp is criminal, so much amazing electronic music on one release, but then with a back catalogue like theirs how could they go wrong? I'd never heard David Alvarado before, but really liked the two tracks on that comp that he is involved in ('Beautification' literally dropped my jaw the first time I heard it). Can anyone recommend any other tracks by him? Sorry, I think he's from LA not Detroit ;) At 10:29 am + 9/3/04, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: RP 12 - Tobacco Ties is keeping me smiling at the moment, as is Peacefrog 10.100 album. Quite mellow for me, all good. RB -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 10:20 To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Check out 'Blue' on Ultra Tracks (really nice slow building deep techno cut), and the Sunrise Society Eps on Peacefrog (at least I think that's Alvarado - anyone want to correct me? They're pretty hot either way...) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Brendan Nelson' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; synthetic tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? that peacefrog 10.100 comp is criminal, so much amazing electronic music on one release, but then with a back catalogue like theirs how could they go wrong? I'd never heard David Alvarado before, but really liked the two tracks on that comp that he is involved in ('Beautification' literally dropped my jaw the first time I heard it). Can anyone recommend any other tracks by him? Sorry, I think he's from LA not Detroit ;) At 10:29 am + 9/3/04, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: RP 12 - Tobacco Ties is keeping me smiling at the moment, as is Peacefrog 10.100 album. Quite mellow for me, all good. RB -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 10:20 To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
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Yeah, Beautification is an amazing track, can't wait to drop that one soon. Other stuff he has done, of significance (to me) was Sunstone, also on PF. Lush deep tech, really atmospheric. I am also quite fond of his track Blue - much more straight up but still very good on Ian Pooleys Strive label. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 11:02 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? that peacefrog 10.100 comp is criminal, so much amazing electronic music on one release, but then with a back catalogue like theirs how could they go wrong? I'd never heard David Alvarado before, but really liked the two tracks on that comp that he is involved in ('Beautification' literally dropped my jaw the first time I heard it). Can anyone recommend any other tracks by him? Sorry, I think he's from LA not Detroit ;) At 10:29 am + 9/3/04, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: RP 12 - Tobacco Ties is keeping me smiling at the moment, as is Peacefrog 10.100 album. Quite mellow for me, all good. RB -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 10:20 To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
I didn't think much of his Peacefrog album, though there were a couple of saving graces- almost prog house in places to these unsophisticared ears -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 11:02 AM To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? that peacefrog 10.100 comp is criminal, so much amazing electronic music on one release, but then with a back catalogue like theirs how could they go wrong? I'd never heard David Alvarado before, but really liked the two tracks on that comp that he is involved in ('Beautification' literally dropped my jaw the first time I heard it). Can anyone recommend any other tracks by him? Sorry, I think he's from LA not Detroit ;) At 10:29 am + 9/3/04, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: RP 12 - Tobacco Ties is keeping me smiling at the moment, as is Peacefrog 10.100 album. Quite mellow for me, all good. RB -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 10:20 To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Yeah, I can second that 10.100 compilations. These are the ones when guests not that familiar with this strange electronic music are asking what is playing in the stereo. Lately I am really into this new Dynarec eps, haven't checked kerrier district though ;-) And yes that False Tuned of St Hilaire is great as is a lot of other stuff... peace mislav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:02 PM To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? that peacefrog 10.100 comp is criminal, so much amazing electronic music on one release, but then with a back catalogue like theirs how could they go wrong? I'd never heard David Alvarado before, but really liked the two tracks on that comp that he is involved in ('Beautification' literally dropped my jaw the first time I heard it). Can anyone recommend any other tracks by him? Sorry, I think he's from LA not Detroit ;) At 10:29 am + 9/3/04, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: RP 12 - Tobacco Ties is keeping me smiling at the moment, as is Peacefrog 10.100 album. Quite mellow for me, all good. RB -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 10:20 To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
(313) Do You Know Who You Are (was RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?)
Here's another track that I love right now - Virgo, Do You Know Who You Are. It's not from Detroit so I get a slap for mentioning it; however, to me it's a very good example of late-80s Chicago music that almost could have been made in Detroit during that period. I remember a discussion on here some time ago about exactly what differentiated the electronic dance music output of Detroit and Chicago (essentially, what differentiated techno from house) and this track definitely backs up the opinion that there was a lot of music being made in Chicago then that could have been mistaken for Detroit techno, just as some producers in Detroit were being heavily influenced by Chicago house. The synth strings on Do You Know Who You Are sound classically Detroit to me, with that brittle emotion and the combination of warmth and coldness that is characteristic of the feel of early 313 techno. What other old Chicago tracks can people think of that bridge the Detroit/Chicago gap as effectively as this Virgo track does? Brendan
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Ron trent - Altered states Timeless p -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 12:34 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Do You Know Who You Are (was RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?) Here's another track that I love right now - Virgo, Do You Know Who You Are. It's not from Detroit so I get a slap for mentioning it; however, to me it's a very good example of late-80s Chicago music that almost could have been made in Detroit during that period. I remember a discussion on here some time ago about exactly what differentiated the electronic dance music output of Detroit and Chicago (essentially, what differentiated techno from house) and this track definitely backs up the opinion that there was a lot of music being made in Chicago then that could have been mistaken for Detroit techno, just as some producers in Detroit were being heavily influenced by Chicago house. The synth strings on Do You Know Who You Are sound classically Detroit to me, with that brittle emotion and the combination of warmth and coldness that is characteristic of the feel of early 313 techno. What other old Chicago tracks can people think of that bridge the Detroit/Chicago gap as effectively as this Virgo track does? Brendan
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Not 313, but maybe a removed grandfather of sorts; I finally bit the bullet and ordered some Razormaid customized discs. np - Cab Volt: Sensoria/Do Right RM mix. When those claps and the uh-ah-ah-ah chorus kicks in, I'm back in the early 80s. jeff
Re: (313) Do You Know Who You Are (was RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?)
The synth strings on Do You Know Who You Are sound classically Detroit to me, with that brittle emotion and the combination of warmth and coldness that is characteristic of the feel of early 313 techno. What other old Chicago tracks can people think of that bridge the Detroit/Chicago gap as effectively as this Virgo track does? very obvious but Can U Feel It, Mr. Fingers. so has Do You Know Who You Are been repressed recently or summink? robin...
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What other old Chicago tracks can people think of that bridge the Detroit/Chicago gap as effectively as this Virgo track does? there's tons! but, one for today - FARM BOY - JACKIN' ME AROUND - Trax '86 alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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but, one for today - FARM BOY - JACKIN' ME AROUND - Trax '86 oops, forgot to say, dub mix only on this one, the rest is pap. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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beat the knuckles, anyone? classic trax stuff, sandoz, isn´t it Ron Maney´s first 12(dj skull)? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 9 maart 2004 14:28 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Do You Know Who You Are (was RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?) but, one for today - FARM BOY - JACKIN' ME AROUND - Trax '86 oops, forgot to say, dub mix only on this one, the rest is pap. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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-Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 13:25 so has Do You Know Who You Are been repressed recently or summink? Not as far as I know - I managed to get hold of it a few months ago though, and have been giving it some heavy listens lately. I've got to hunt down this Farm Boy record that Alex mentioned - never come across that one before! Another Chicago track I'd suggest as something to bridge the gap is Essence Of A Dream by K-Alexi - very Detroit strings on that one, and the TR-727 Latin Module drum machine on there is definitely more of a Detroit sound than a Chicago sound. Brendan
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That 727 is classic, it´s one of those machines i´ll always keep hooked up in the studio. Another Chicago track I'd suggest as something to bridge the gap is Essence Of A Dream by K-Alexi - very Detroit strings on that one, and the TR-727 Latin Module drum machine on there is definitely more of a Detroit sound than a Chicago sound. Brendan The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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the 727 and the rz1 are both big faves of mine...(then again i just love any kinda drum machine) i guess we're kinda heading off topic now :) robin... Peteri, Jochem wrote: That 727 is classic, it´s one of those machines i´ll always keep hooked up in the studio. Another Chicago track I'd suggest as something to bridge the gap is Essence Of A Dream by K-Alexi - very Detroit strings on that one, and the TR-727 Latin Module drum machine on there is definitely more of a Detroit sound than a Chicago sound. Brendan The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Man, I forgot about this - does anyone remember the 'Air' LP on Rising High, by Pete Namlook? I re-found it the other day and it must be some of the most beautiful music ever! Would love to know more about his output on Fax, there's so much of it, there must be some gems in amongst everything else. Maybe he went off the new-age deep end, I really don't know. Anyway, if anyone out there hasn't heard it, get Air 1, you won't regret it (and your girl/boyfriend will love you for it ;) Andrew Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 12:47 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
the From Within thing he did with Richie Hawtin was pretty good (it's on Fax, namlooks label from what i recall) robin... Andrew wrote: Man, I forgot about this - does anyone remember the 'Air' LP on Rising High, by Pete Namlook? I re-found it the other day and it must be some of the most beautiful music ever! Would love to know more about his output on Fax, there's so much of it, there must be some gems in amongst everything else. Maybe he went off the new-age deep end, I really don't know. Anyway, if anyone out there hasn't heard it, get Air 1, you won't regret it (and your girl/boyfriend will love you for it ;) Andrew Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 12:47 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
There were a couple of 12s that Hawtin did with Namlook on fax not just one. I only own 1 and its wicked. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 14:22 To: Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? the From Within thing he did with Richie Hawtin was pretty good (it's on Fax, namlooks label from what i recall) robin... Andrew wrote: Man, I forgot about this - does anyone remember the 'Air' LP on Rising High, by Pete Namlook? I re-found it the other day and it must be some of the most beautiful music ever! Would love to know more about his output on Fax, there's so much of it, there must be some gems in amongst everything else. Maybe he went off the new-age deep end, I really don't know. Anyway, if anyone out there hasn't heard it, get Air 1, you won't regret it (and your girl/boyfriend will love you for it ;) Andrew Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 12:47 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
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ah right...i was on about the cd that they released. i think that may include the tracks on the 12s robin... Paul Kendrick wrote: There were a couple of 12s that Hawtin did with Namlook on fax not just one. I only own 1 and its wicked. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 14:22 To: Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? the From Within thing he did with Richie Hawtin was pretty good (it's on Fax, namlooks label from what i recall) robin... Andrew wrote: Man, I forgot about this - does anyone remember the 'Air' LP on Rising High, by Pete Namlook? I re-found it the other day and it must be some of the most beautiful music ever! Would love to know more about his output on Fax, there's so much of it, there must be some gems in amongst everything else. Maybe he went off the new-age deep end, I really don't know. Anyway, if anyone out there hasn't heard it, get Air 1, you won't regret it (and your girl/boyfriend will love you for it ;) Andrew Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 12:47 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
From Within came in 2 volumes. Silence with Dr Atmo is another good one. He also did some interesting stuff with Atom Heart, and with Tetsue Inuo (sp?). He was very prolific and subsequently his quality control was almost non-existent - some of his releases seemed to consist of just one tone played on a dusty old analogue synth for 60 minutes -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:18 PM To: robin; Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? There were a couple of 12s that Hawtin did with Namlook on fax not just one. I only own 1 and its wicked. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 14:22 To: Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? the From Within thing he did with Richie Hawtin was pretty good (it's on Fax, namlooks label from what i recall) robin... Andrew wrote: Man, I forgot about this - does anyone remember the 'Air' LP on Rising High, by Pete Namlook? I re-found it the other day and it must be some of the most beautiful music ever! Would love to know more about his output on Fax, there's so much of it, there must be some gems in amongst everything else. Maybe he went off the new-age deep end, I really don't know. Anyway, if anyone out there hasn't heard it, get Air 1, you won't regret it (and your girl/boyfriend will love you for it ;) Andrew Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 12:47 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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At 09:30 AM 3/9/2004, Robert Taylor wrote: From Within came in 2 volumes. From the knowledgeable and all around cool guys, ex-pat 313ers and style mavens, Stewart Fritz and Warren Lapham ( I *think* Warren used to live here) : http://2350.org/ Lots of reviews, etc. The Steve Stoll and Spyra stuff on FAX should also be investigated. A LOT of it should be investigated and there is a LOT. Stewart and Warren can be found once in a while in the 313 city limits. They also run the FAX list and enjoy fashionable waters. There are actually 3 volumes of From Within, which Hawtin re-released on Minus a few years back. jeff
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
He had a project with Mixmaster Morris called 'Dreamfish' on Rising High. I like it quite a lot, though some people might find it archetypal ambient noodle in places. Very long slowly developing tracks with quirky samples as you might expect from these two. Can anyone suggest good 313 ambient? Detroit Escalator Co would be an obvious one I suppose? Some of the UR tracks e.g.Big Stone Lake Every Dog Has It's Day Any others? At 02:30 pm + 9/3/04, Robert Taylor wrote: From Within came in 2 volumes. Silence with Dr Atmo is another good one. He also did some interesting stuff with Atom Heart, and with Tetsue Inuo (sp?). He was very prolific and subsequently his quality control was almost non-existent - some of his releases seemed to consist of just one tone played on a dusty old analogue synth for 60 minutes
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Man From Tomorrow Crackdown are my two faves -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:41 PM To: Robert Taylor; Paul Kendrick; robin; Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? He had a project with Mixmaster Morris called 'Dreamfish' on Rising High. I like it quite a lot, though some people might find it archetypal ambient noodle in places. Very long slowly developing tracks with quirky samples as you might expect from these two. Can anyone suggest good 313 ambient? Detroit Escalator Co would be an obvious one I suppose? Some of the UR tracks e.g.Big Stone Lake Every Dog Has It's Day Any others? At 02:30 pm + 9/3/04, Robert Taylor wrote: From Within came in 2 volumes. Silence with Dr Atmo is another good one. He also did some interesting stuff with Atom Heart, and with Tetsue Inuo (sp?). He was very prolific and subsequently his quality control was almost non-existent - some of his releases seemed to consist of just one tone played on a dusty old analogue synth for 60 minutes # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
i could be wrong but i thought deepchord were based out of boston. i like a lot of deepchord stuff, but i wouldnt put it on the same level as bc/cr/etc because they are seriously lacking in the bassline department -- great dubby chords and nice beats, but missing lowend...many releases have no basslines at all. altho i guess that doesnt hurt them in the mix Deepchord is a Detroit label I think (so it is 313 ;-) - I found their first one about 5 years ago now, so they've been around a pretty long time, but they are really against any kind of promotion, so their EPs tend to filter into the stores pretty subtly. Excellent stuff though, kinda Basic Channel'y with a slightly smoother edge... Not sure if it's all the same artist, as there is minimal info on the one's I've got, but it's certainly a consistent sound across all the cuts... - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; synthetic tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:28 AM Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I heard the faith cut on Matt McQueen's show - it's excellent - who are Deep Chord? I heard about 4 of their tracks on a mix that heavily feautured M/BC/CR material, so I thought it might yet another sublabel. This ain't 313 you know - so does this email count as noise? -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:20 AM To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
At 09:47 AM 3/9/2004, J. T. wrote: i could be wrong but i thought deepchord were based out of boston. i like a lot of deepchord stuff, but i wouldnt put it on the same level as bc/cr/etc because they are seriously lacking in the bassline department -- great dubby chords and nice beats, but missing lowend...many releases have no basslines at all. altho i guess that doesnt hurt them in the mix discogs.com shows their address as Detroit, MI -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; http://www.mkb-dj.org Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Yes i was going to say dreamfish- an old favourite of mine, even if some of those sounds used were abused by nameless commercial offerings elsewhere and later. My all-time favourite FAX release is orange by Atom Heart. Also Fire's of Orc which is on Apollo I think co authored by Biosphere on rs sublabel its still nice. On that subject of Apollo does anyone know where i can get a copy of Model 500 - the passage on vinyl? I heard it on an old mix tape recorded from Claude Young when he lived in Adelaide, and its been bugging me ever since. Timeless peace or ambient. Quest Pond -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 March 2004 1:41 AM To: Robert Taylor; Paul Kendrick; robin; Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? He had a project with Mixmaster Morris called 'Dreamfish' on Rising High. I like it quite a lot, though some people might find it archetypal ambient noodle in places. Very long slowly developing tracks with quirky samples as you might expect from these two. Can anyone suggest good 313 ambient? Detroit Escalator Co would be an obvious one I suppose? Some of the UR tracks e.g.Big Stone Lake Every Dog Has It's Day Any others? At 02:30 pm + 9/3/04, Robert Taylor wrote: From Within came in 2 volumes. Silence with Dr Atmo is another good one. He also did some interesting stuff with Atom Heart, and with Tetsue Inuo (sp?). He was very prolific and subsequently his quality control was almost non-existent - some of his releases seemed to consist of just one tone played on a dusty old analogue synth for 60 minutes
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
That model500 is by no means amnient, the vessels in distress-track is loud as f**k classic 12, and one of my juan fave´s -Original Message- From: Quest Pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 9 maart 2004 15:52 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Yes i was going to say dreamfish- an old favourite of mine, even if some of those sounds used were abused by nameless commercial offerings elsewhere and later. My all-time favourite FAX release is orange by Atom Heart. Also Fire's of Orc which is on Apollo I think co authored by Biosphere on rs sublabel its still nice. On that subject of Apollo does anyone know where i can get a copy of Model 500 - the passage on vinyl? I heard it on an old mix tape recorded from Claude Young when he lived in Adelaide, and its been bugging me ever since. Timeless peace or ambient. Quest Pond -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 March 2004 1:41 AM To: Robert Taylor; Paul Kendrick; robin; Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? He had a project with Mixmaster Morris called 'Dreamfish' on Rising High. I like it quite a lot, though some people might find it archetypal ambient noodle in places. Very long slowly developing tracks with quirky samples as you might expect from these two. Can anyone suggest good 313 ambient? Detroit Escalator Co would be an obvious one I suppose? Some of the UR tracks e.g.Big Stone Lake Every Dog Has It's Day Any others? At 02:30 pm + 9/3/04, Robert Taylor wrote: From Within came in 2 volumes. Silence with Dr Atmo is another good one. He also did some interesting stuff with Atom Heart, and with Tetsue Inuo (sp?). He was very prolific and subsequently his quality control was almost non-existent - some of his releases seemed to consist of just one tone played on a dusty old analogue synth for 60 minutes The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
You may be able to pick up a copy of Model 500 The Passage if you trawl the net - GEMM etc - it's not a rare one really. my mate had one in his shop very recently, you could try emailing them to see if its still there. www.vinylexchange.co.uk incidentally, Juan's new track Track 10 reminds me of The Passage quite a bit, you can hear it on Matt Macqueens show. www.sonicsunset.com alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Been checking out the Porter Ricks Biokinetics LP on Chain Reaction lately. George Jones - Logic7 http://allways.nu http://www.geocities.com/labwerx -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.615 / Virus Database: 394 - Release Date: 3/8/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.615 / Virus Database: 394 - Release Date: 3/8/2004
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The Hallucinator album is excellent too -Original Message- From: Logic7 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:00 PM To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Been checking out the Porter Ricks Biokinetics LP on Chain Reaction lately. George Jones - Logic7 http://allways.nu http://www.geocities.com/labwerx -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.615 / Virus Database: 394 - Release Date: 3/8/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.615 / Virus Database: 394 - Release Date: 3/8/2004 # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Do You Know Who You Are (was RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?)
The synth strings on Do You Know Who You Are sound classically Detroit to me, with that brittle emotion and the combination of warmth and coldness that is characteristic of the feel of early 313 techno. What other old Chicago tracks can people think of that bridge the Detroit/Chicago gap as effectively as this Virgo track does? well there's tons of old ones i guess, with virgo and k-alexi being consistently that style, and of course mr fingers. sendex has recently been making tracks that hark back to this sound too, reallly nice. he posted one on the c-b-s forum http://www.smeyer.cistron.nl/~smeyer/music/sendex_temp01.mp3 ..wait what year is it? he'll be on a usa tour in early april, in detroit saturday the 10th jt _ Fast. Reliable. Get MSN 9 Dial-up - 3 months for the price of 1! (Limited-time Offer) http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
At 09:50 AM 3/9/2004, you wrote: At 09:47 AM 3/9/2004, J. T. wrote: i could be wrong but i thought deepchord were based out of boston. i like a lot of deepchord stuff, but i wouldnt put it on the same level as bc/cr/etc because they are seriously lacking in the bassline department -- great dubby chords and nice beats, but missing lowend...many releases have no basslines at all. altho i guess that doesnt hurt them in the mix discogs.com shows their address as Detroit, MI Unless things have changed, Rod Modell is in Port Huron and I think his partner might be in Boston. jeff
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
my recent favourite album is gesamtlaufzeit by marko fürstenberg on thinner [thn047]. i think my fav tracks on those are mimerlaven, stockhorn and rieth. it's (how unexpected :) dubtechno, but at its best. can't leave my hands off it. ronny
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Was Higher Intelligence Agency Pete Namlook - S.H.A.D.O mentioned already? That one's really good as well. Ronny Quest Pond wrote: Yes i was going to say dreamfish- an old favourite of mine, even if some of those sounds used were abused by nameless commercial offerings elsewhere and later. My all-time favourite FAX release is orange by Atom Heart. Also Fire's of Orc which is on Apollo I think co authored by Biosphere on rs sublabel its still nice. On that subject of Apollo does anyone know where i can get a copy of Model 500 - the passage on vinyl? I heard it on an old mix tape recorded from Claude Young when he lived in Adelaide, and its been bugging me ever since. Timeless peace or ambient. Quest Pond -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 March 2004 1:41 AM To: Robert Taylor; Paul Kendrick; robin; Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? He had a project with Mixmaster Morris called 'Dreamfish' on Rising High. I like it quite a lot, though some people might find it archetypal ambient noodle in places. Very long slowly developing tracks with quirky samples as you might expect from these two. Can anyone suggest good 313 ambient? Detroit Escalator Co would be an obvious one I suppose? Some of the UR tracks e.g.Big Stone Lake Every Dog Has It's Day Any others? At 02:30 pm + 9/3/04, Robert Taylor wrote: From Within came in 2 volumes. Silence with Dr Atmo is another good one. He also did some interesting stuff with Atom Heart, and with Tetsue Inuo (sp?). He was very prolific and subsequently his quality control was almost non-existent - some of his releases seemed to consist of just one tone played on a dusty old analogue synth for 60 minutes
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
At 09:47 AM 3/9/2004, J. T. wrote: i could be wrong but i thought deepchord were based out of boston. i like a lot of deepchord stuff, but i wouldnt put it on the same level as bc/cr/etc because they are seriously lacking in the bassline department -- great dubby chords and nice beats, but missing lowend...many releases have no basslines at all. altho i guess that doesnt hurt them in the mix discogs.com shows their address as Detroit, MI Tom (my partner) and I hooked up with Deep Chord at one the DEMF's, and since we went to their apartment in the D, I would guess that they are from the D, but you never know... ;) check the archives of 313... you may find out that they are really based out of dairy farm in Wisconsin... You never know who to believe ... ! Dave
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
OK, 'Crackdown' is the Carl Craig thing on Transmat right? But what's 'Man From Tomorrow'? Are you referring to the Mills track, or is it something else? At 02:42 pm + 9/3/04, Robert Taylor wrote: Man From Tomorrow Crackdown are my two faves -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:41 PM To: Robert Taylor; Paul Kendrick; robin; Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? He had a project with Mixmaster Morris called 'Dreamfish' on Rising High. I like it quite a lot, though some people might find it archetypal ambient noodle in places. Very long slowly developing tracks with quirky samples as you might expect from these two. Can anyone suggest good 313 ambient? Detroit Escalator Co would be an obvious one I suppose? Some of the UR tracks e.g.Big Stone Lake Every Dog Has It's Day Any others?
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Yep the Mills track on Cycle 30 Crackdown is indeed the Psyche release on Transmat Then there's Tedra (Kenny Larkin) and At Les (Craig again), but that's all so obvious - I'm sure some spotters out there wil have some more obscure suggestions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:53 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? OK, 'Crackdown' is the Carl Craig thing on Transmat right? But what's 'Man From Tomorrow'? Are you referring to the Mills track, or is it something else? At 02:42 pm + 9/3/04, Robert Taylor wrote: Man From Tomorrow Crackdown are my two faves -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:41 PM To: Robert Taylor; Paul Kendrick; robin; Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? He had a project with Mixmaster Morris called 'Dreamfish' on Rising High. I like it quite a lot, though some people might find it archetypal ambient noodle in places. Very long slowly developing tracks with quirky samples as you might expect from these two. Can anyone suggest good 313 ambient? Detroit Escalator Co would be an obvious one I suppose? Some of the UR tracks e.g.Big Stone Lake Every Dog Has It's Day Any others? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
o my lord. that kanye west album is one of the best albums this year!!! also the new circus company #5, the new luciano, new ron trent, the rereleases of the records on eclipse. i think it was r-tyme, kosmik messenger and carl craig. my favorite of them is r-tyme!!! all the new jackmate's are tight also. ryan From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:46:39 +1100 It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t _ Create a Job Alert on MSN Careers and enter for a chance to win $1000! http://msn.careerbuilder.com/promo/kaday.htm?siteid=CBMSN_1Ksc_extcmp=JS_JASweep_MSNHotm2
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
Actually, on the Detroit ambient tip: remember the Random Logic one on The Black Label all those years ago? By Robert Hood? The inner track on one of those sides is a really exquisite piece of Detroit ambient, with the 909 in there too, of course. Oh, and on the same tip I have to shout the Netherlands EP by Joe Louis, I can't believe this record isn't more well known!! The track Netherlands even appeared on some comps (according to Discogs), which attests to it's beauty. That's some lovely 313 ambient. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 18:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Yep the Mills track on Cycle 30 Crackdown is indeed the Psyche release on Transmat Then there's Tedra (Kenny Larkin) and At Les (Craig again), but that's all so obvious - I'm sure some spotters out there wil have some more obscure suggestions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:53 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? OK, 'Crackdown' is the Carl Craig thing on Transmat right? But what's 'Man From Tomorrow'? Are you referring to the Mills track, or is it something else? At 02:42 pm + 9/3/04, Robert Taylor wrote: Man From Tomorrow Crackdown are my two faves -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:41 PM To: Robert Taylor; Paul Kendrick; robin; Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? He had a project with Mixmaster Morris called 'Dreamfish' on Rising High. I like it quite a lot, though some people might find it archetypal ambient noodle in places. Very long slowly developing tracks with quirky samples as you might expect from these two. Can anyone suggest good 313 ambient? Detroit Escalator Co would be an obvious one I suppose? Some of the UR tracks e.g.Big Stone Lake Every Dog Has It's Day Any others? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Brendan Nelson wrote: I *think* Deepchord are actually from Detroit so we may be able to get another few emails on this topic through before the Feds bust in and shut down the thread! THAT'S IT ANYONE WITH A CO.UK ON THEIR E-MAIL IS BANNED!!! Deepchord aren't a BC sublabel but it's safe to say that their music is _heavily_ influenced by Basic Channel and Chain Reaction. That's not a criticism; I like that style of music, feel that the world has room in it for a few more records like that, and the Deepchord people do it well. I regularly use Deepchord tracks when doing dubby BC-style mixes (and used quite a lot on Offworld Party Time as well) but apart from the suspicion that they're 313 natives I don't know much about them at al God, I hope it doesn't turn out that they're actually from Flint, Ypsilanti, Windsor or Dearborn... Brendan -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 10:28 To: Brendan Nelson; synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I heard the faith cut on Matt McQueen's show - it's excellent - who are Deep Chord? I heard about 4 of their tracks on a mix that heavily feautured M/BC/CR material, so I thought it might yet another sublabel. This ain't 313 you know - so does this email count as noise? -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:20 AM To: synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? Jonas Berring's Emballages EP on Kompakt is a nice variation on Deepchord sort of stuff; also worth picking up in that vein are releases on Force Tracks and a fair few on Gadgets as well. An EP that came out a couple of months ago that's worth chasing down is Paul St Hilaire (aka Tikiman) ft Rene Lowe (aka Scion). It's called the Faith EP and is out on False Tuned records, and if you like the sounds on Deepchord releases and haven't heard this one you should definitely try to track it down. Then again, you probably know all this stuff already :) Brendan www.lunarselector.com -Original Message- From: synthetic tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 06:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
RE: (313) Do You Know Who You Are (was RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?)
/nod head in reverence of altered states/ On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, placid wrote: Ron trent - Altered states Timeless p -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 12:34 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Do You Know Who You Are (was RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?) Here's another track that I love right now - Virgo, Do You Know Who You Are. It's not from Detroit so I get a slap for mentioning it; however, to me it's a very good example of late-80s Chicago music that almost could have been made in Detroit during that period. I remember a discussion on here some time ago about exactly what differentiated the electronic dance music output of Detroit and Chicago (essentially, what differentiated techno from house) and this track definitely backs up the opinion that there was a lot of music being made in Chicago then that could have been mistaken for Detroit techno, just as some producers in Detroit were being heavily influenced by Chicago house. The synth strings on Do You Know Who You Are sound classically Detroit to me, with that brittle emotion and the combination of warmth and coldness that is characteristic of the feel of early 313 techno. What other old Chicago tracks can people think of that bridge the Detroit/Chicago gap as effectively as this Virgo track does? Brendan
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i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's not techno/house but I am totally enamoured with the Kanye West album The College Dropout - esp Never Let Me Down and Jesus Walks. The production is excellent - he's developed the Blueprint template - and the lyrics insightful, astute and candid. as far as techno, i'm pretty into the new Damon Wild doublepack on Kanzleramt. especially mr mean and halflife. the combo of tough stompy drums and totally wussed out synths is, in general, pretty unbeatable, imo. as far as rock music, i'd always have to go with Lungfish and the Lungfish side-project The Pupils on Dischord. if you want to give them a shot, i think i'd recommend starting with Lungfish's Sound in Time, completely amazing start to finish. not that i necessarily think you've never heard these records, but those are the things i'm into right now. also, i'd agree with Chad about Stars of the Lid. droning, largely guitar based, i think, ambient. and the show they played in urbana last year was one of the best i've seen. which i think is saying a lot, considering i'm an impatient guy and it was an ambient show. eric On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: sorry to re-post this question, but i'm craving some new music that i've never heard of before, and there's no better place to ask than here. as for me, i've recently discovered DeepChord and Docile Recordings and i'm loving them both. buy on sight as far as i'm concerned. playing right now: Drexciya Digital Tsunami later y'alls t
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-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. youre definitely crazy on that one. i think its great. you can look at how UK hardcore took stuff from hiphop, usually speeding it up, and how now hiphop is taking divas and speeding them up, almost in homage to UK hardcore. plus, andres does that stuff all the time, and i thought it sounded good when he did it. tmo andythepooh.com
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- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Brendan Nelson' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; synthetic tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I'd never heard David Alvarado before, but really liked the two tracks on that comp that he is involved in ('Beautification' literally dropped my jaw the first time I heard it). Can anyone recommend any other tracks by him? I thought the David Alvardo album on Peacefrog was beautifully produced but utterly vapid. It didn't hold a candle to his earlier Peacefrog 12 or some of his other work IMHO. Other than the stuff already mentioned, I'd highly recommend his 12s on Plastic City and Yoshi Toshi, both of which tap into a BCish territory. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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... and just what would be wrong with DC being from Ypsi? George Jones - Logic7 http://allways.nu http://www.geocities.com/labwerx -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:41 AM To: Robert Taylor; synthetic tom; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now? I *think* Deepchord are actually from Detroit so we may be able to get another few emails on this topic through before the Feds bust in and shut down the thread! Deepchord aren't a BC sublabel but it's safe to say that their music is _heavily_ influenced by Basic Channel and Chain Reaction. That's not a criticism; I like that style of music, feel that the world has room in it for a few more records like that, and the Deepchord people do it well. I regularly use Deepchord tracks when doing dubby BC-style mixes (and used quite a lot on Offworld Party Time as well) but apart from the suspicion that they're 313 natives I don't know much about them at all. God, I hope it doesn't turn out that they're actually from Flint, Ypsilanti, Windsor or Dearborn... Brendan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.615 / Virus Database: 394 - Release Date: 3/8/2004
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youre definitely crazy on that one. i think its great. you can look at how UK hardcore took stuff from hiphop, usually speeding it up, and how now hiphop is taking divas and speeding them up, almost in homage to UK hardcore. i seriously doubt kayne west is up on UK hardcore i'm sorry- but chipmunking out chaka chan and freaking Annie (from back in his Jay-Z producing days) is a flippin scourge of music and culture. plus, andres does that stuff all the time, and i thought it sounded good when he did it. tmo andythepooh.com
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-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i seriously doubt kayne west is up on UK hardcore whys that? i wouldnt immediately assume that about anyone, especially not when timbaland is obviously indebted to the same things. i'm sorry- but chipmunking out chaka chan and freaking Annie (from back in his Jay-Z producing days) is a flippin scourge of music and culture. didnt mark the 45 king do the hard knock life beat? thats what it says on allmusic as well, either way, i dont see why pitching up vocals is suddenly a crime. i think one of the vocals andres did that with was barbara streisand. if it sounds hot, do it. ive been interested in slowing things down recently though. that whole down south screwed up sound where they pitch things down and the relatively slow detroit house sounds are much more cutting edge IMO, even though theyre hardly new. tom andythepooh.com
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i gotta debate you there. i haven't heard the whole album but.. kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the worst thing to EVER happen to pop music. haha what?? yes all trends suck! err something. the worst thing ever to happen to pop music? easily? were you asleep in the late 90's? executive produced supergroups are easily the worst thing to ever happen to pop music, get real. i like kanye west. it's nothing amazing. just very good mainstream style hiphop. i dont think he's hiphop's saviour or any sht like that, as a lot of media hype is making him out to be (they do this every 6 months or so right? such n such is totally re-ineventing insert genre here..or oh wow, rap music can actually be intelligent! o really??) give me jaydee stuff over kanye west any day of the week. now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy lay it on us tho i'd be awfully excited to hear any hiphop that had anything in common with p.e. too np dizzee rascal _ Find things fast with the new MSN Toolbar includes FREE pop-up blocking! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now if anyone doesn't mind- i could easily start a thread regardi hip=hip that i've recently discovered. stuff that probably has more in common with carl craig than public enemy anyone? i'd be interested! you can reply of list if no one else is interested. jurren _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
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there is a vast raft of string laden chicago tracks. it's classic chicago to me, rather than bridging a gap between chicago and detroit. lot of stuff by da posse all the virgo stuff by marshall jefferson - particularly the jungle ron trent altered states the house rockers everybody do it ace and the sandman 'let your body talk' larry heard 'can u feel it' james www.jbucknell.com J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] l.com To [EMAIL PROTECTED], 09/03/04 03:04 PM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) Do You Know Who You Are (was RE: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?) The synth strings on Do You Know Who You Are sound classically Detroit to me, with that brittle emotion and the combination of warmth and coldness that is characteristic of the feel of early 313 techno. What other old Chicago tracks can people think of that bridge the Detroit/Chicago gap as effectively as this Virgo track does? well there's tons of old ones i guess, with virgo and k-alexi being consistently that style, and of course mr fingers. sendex has recently been making tracks that hark back to this sound too, reallly nice. he posted one on the c-b-s forum http://www.smeyer.cistron.nl/~smeyer/music/sendex_temp01.mp3 ..wait what year is it? he'll be on a usa tour in early april, in detroit saturday the 10th jt _ Fast. Reliable. Get MSN 9 Dial-up - 3 months for the price of 1! (Limited-time Offer) http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ForwardSourceID:NT82D6