Re: $D V17 as a service
Hi Pat. We had the same issue some time ago and figured out how to solve the problem. The issue was that we use the new architecture for deploymemt and with this new architecture, the datafile location is stored in a xml file in the user appdata of the user which launch the application the first time. In our case it was the Administrator. Because as a Service it was Local System user, 4D stop to run because he could not find a datafile to open. The solution was to move this xml file in the appdata of the Local System user (located in a deep hidden place but findable). This solve our issue. I dont know if it is the same for you. But I assume you launch 4D as Administrator when you launch it normally(not as a service). You can also get some more informations in the event logs of windows and get the log of why 4D stops. In our case it was written « cannot open a datafile » or something like that. Hope ut can help. Gabriel Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 19 mars 2019 à 01:22, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a > écrit : > > I have been banging my head against the wall with this problem for weeks :) > Advice I was given was to NOT run the service with the Local system Access > option selected but to create a new user account and use that. I got the > client's IT dept. to create a new user account and it is selected under > "This account" in Task Manager->Services->Properties->Log on. > > So in the Task Manager it says the app is "Running", but in the Properties > dialog, under General, it says Service status: Stopped. If I click Start it > starts but then immediately reverts to Stopped. > > If I do not try to run the app as a service, it runs just fine, and I can > connect to it from a Client on the same machine, so I'm confident that > there isn't a problem with the app that's preventing it from running. > > I started a thread on this topic a few weeks ago and I believe I've > followed the advice given there :) But still can't get it to work. > > Pat > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 22:12, Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >> I’m having the same issue with Windows Server 2016 and Windows 10 Pro >> (local Dev OS) when using a built server. >> >> The steps I generally take are: >>-Launch the built server as Admin. >>-Say yes to any firewall questions from the OS. >>-Register as a service. >>-Start 4D Server service via Service control panel of the OS. >>-connect with 4D client…. Be happy! >> >> The problem is that the client does not connect. Upon closer inspection, I >> notice that the server is initially started as a server then it apparently >> quits just after it starts. The Service list shows it running and it looks >> like it’s running, then after a refresh of that list, it’s clearly not >> running. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Robert >> >>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Uist Macdonald via 4D_Tech < >> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >>> >>> When I run 4d Server V17.0 as an app under Windows Server 2016, I can >> connect to it OK. However if I run it as a service, I cannot connect. >> >> ** >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >> ** > > > > -- > * > CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing > tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 > w: http://www.catbase.com > skype: pat.bensky > * > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Simulated Multiuser Testing
Tom, thanks for your input. I’ll let you know if I pursue this and come up with something interesting. R Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2019, at 6:28 PM, Tom Benedict wrote: > > We used it a lot to try to understand 4D Server “anomalies” but in the end we > never really came up with anything conclusive. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: $D V17 as a service
I have been banging my head against the wall with this problem for weeks :) Advice I was given was to NOT run the service with the Local system Access option selected but to create a new user account and use that. I got the client's IT dept. to create a new user account and it is selected under "This account" in Task Manager->Services->Properties->Log on. So in the Task Manager it says the app is "Running", but in the Properties dialog, under General, it says Service status: Stopped. If I click Start it starts but then immediately reverts to Stopped. If I do not try to run the app as a service, it runs just fine, and I can connect to it from a Client on the same machine, so I'm confident that there isn't a problem with the app that's preventing it from running. I started a thread on this topic a few weeks ago and I believe I've followed the advice given there :) But still can't get it to work. Pat On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 22:12, Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > I’m having the same issue with Windows Server 2016 and Windows 10 Pro > (local Dev OS) when using a built server. > > The steps I generally take are: > -Launch the built server as Admin. > -Say yes to any firewall questions from the OS. > -Register as a service. > -Start 4D Server service via Service control panel of the OS. > -connect with 4D client…. Be happy! > > The problem is that the client does not connect. Upon closer inspection, I > notice that the server is initially started as a server then it apparently > quits just after it starts. The Service list shows it running and it looks > like it’s running, then after a refresh of that list, it’s clearly not > running. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Uist Macdonald via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > When I run 4d Server V17.0 as an app under Windows Server 2016, I can > connect to it OK. However if I run it as a service, I cannot connect. > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- * CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 w: http://www.catbase.com skype: pat.bensky * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: $D V17 as a service
I’m having the same issue with Windows Server 2016 and Windows 10 Pro (local Dev OS) when using a built server. The steps I generally take are: -Launch the built server as Admin. -Say yes to any firewall questions from the OS. -Register as a service. -Start 4D Server service via Service control panel of the OS. -connect with 4D client…. Be happy! The problem is that the client does not connect. Upon closer inspection, I notice that the server is initially started as a server then it apparently quits just after it starts. The Service list shows it running and it looks like it’s running, then after a refresh of that list, it’s clearly not running. Any ideas? Thanks, Robert > On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Uist Macdonald via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > When I run 4d Server V17.0 as an app under Windows Server 2016, I can connect > to it OK. However if I run it as a service, I cannot connect. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Intel Optane P4800x Drives with 4D Server and Thermal Throttling
Chip, HHHL and 375gb Thanks Justin ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Intel Optane P4800x Drives with 4D Server and Thermal Throttling
Is the P4800x an HHHL or U2 configuration? and what capacity? Chip On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 18:24:14 +, Justin Will via 4D_Tech wrote: > In case anyone is wondering. I just installed one of these P4800X > drives in our backup server and ran a test conversion of our datafile > from v13 to v17. The datafile is 67gb and the index is about 25gb. > 4D has 120gb ram allocated and running on Windows Server 2016. > > Previously, I was converting the datafile on a HighPoint SSD7101A-1 > NVMe M.2 RAID Controller with 4x Samsung 960 Pro drives in Raid 0. > The conversion was taking about 130 minutes. After swapping out this > HighPoint RAID with a single P4800X drive and running the same > conversion I was able to cut the conversion down to about 80 minutes. > > I hope this is valuable to somebody else. > > Thanks > Justin Will > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** --- Gas is for washing parts Alcohol is for drinkin' Nitromethane is for racing ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Current time (*) incorrect today on v17?
Wow! And thanks for the info, no rush on 17.1, for this issue at least! Alan On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:50 AM Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Our server disconnected all users and stopped responding at the time of > the time change in v17.1. Coincidence? > > > On Mar 18, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Alan Tilson via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know that this is still happening in v17.0. > Does > > anyone know if it is fixed in v17.1? > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Current time (*) incorrect today on v17?
Our server disconnected all users and stopped responding at the time of the time change in v17.1. Coincidence? > On Mar 18, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Alan Tilson via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Just wanted to let everyone know that this is still happening in v17.0. Does > anyone know if it is fixed in v17.1? ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Current time (*) incorrect today on v17?
It was supposed to have been fixed in 17.0 HF4. > On Mar 18, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Alan Tilson via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hello out there, > Just wanted to let everyone know that this is still happening in v17.0. Does > anyone know if it is fixed in v17.1? > Thanks, ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Current time (*) incorrect today on v17?
Hello out there, Just wanted to let everyone know that this is still happening in v17.0. Does anyone know if it is fixed in v17.1? Thanks, Alan -- Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **