[AI] One question regarding online shopping in other country while sitting in India

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

Hi friends, one of my friends is traveling from Belgium (Europe) to
India, I want him to bring some of French perfumes for me, but the
city (Leuven) where he is residing, has no big shopping centres. So I
am looking the possibility of ordering the perfumes online and
providing his delivery address so that it could be delivered to him
from France.
Therefore my question is that, how can I make a payment if I am
ordering the perfumes online? I have SBI credit card. Will the payment
be done using my credit card?
Any idea amazon.com deliver products to Belgium?

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Re: [AI] how can a blind enjoy vacations?

[nitesh gupta]

Without any doubt go for the trip.
I say there are 2 reasons for which u should and must go are-
1: blinds should try to make presence everywhere, like I never leave
any opportunity if god provides me to see any movie in theater.
2: outing is not just for seeing, it is for a change, enjoying food
and sencing a new time table with break of normal rutine.

On 12/10/16, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Hi Sazid,
>
> Good plan, do go for a vacation, and you will find out that you have
> enjoyed
> it very much! You can't see with your eyes, but you can with your other
> senses! Ask questions, touch everything you can and enjoy all the lovely
> different sounds and smells and eat lots of lovely food! You will realize
> that you have enjoyed the trip more than your sighted friends! For they
> will
> only use probably one sense, and you will use 4! So go have fun and find
> out
> and then do share with us also!
> Warmly
>
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> Subject: [AI] how can a blind enjoy vacations?
>
> Dear list as the subject line sounds silly but after getting
> completely blind I am planning to go vacation with my zone railway
> employees to various places in south India.  Being a completely blind
> can i enjoy that tour?  How can I feel that places?  please suggest
> me.
>
> thanks and regards,
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Re: [AI] how can a blind enjoy vacations?

[Amar Jain]

Sazid bhai,

I am totally blind by birth, but I understand your question in terms of 
acquiring late blindness.

What is important at this point for you is to gain an understanding of the 
places you are likely to visit. From that, find out what interests you. I love 
food, drinks, sea shore, adventures etc. This will help you identify your 
interests.

What you will be missing out is the ability to see the beauty of the places. 
And the only realistic answer I have is to find out the description using 
questions as a means from the people you are visiting with. Since you are late 
blind, you will be able to form a picture in mind using that description. So in 
that sense, it will be a mixed feeling.

Feel free to ask such questions, as it is very important to have such 
discussions. I would personally love to know your experience.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> On 11-Dec-2016, at 10:47 AM, Preeti Monga  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sazid,
> 
> Good plan, do go for a vacation, and you will find out that you have enjoyed
> it very much! You can't see with your eyes, but you can with your other
> senses! Ask questions, touch everything you can and enjoy all the lovely
> different sounds and smells and eat lots of lovely food! You will realize
> that you have enjoyed the trip more than your sighted friends! For they will
> only use probably one sense, and you will use 4! So go have fun and find out
> and then do share with us also!
> Warmly
> 
> Preeti
> 
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> Subject: [AI] how can a blind enjoy vacations?
> 
> Dear list as the subject line sounds silly but after getting
> completely blind I am planning to go vacation with my zone railway
> employees to various places in south India.  Being a completely blind
> can i enjoy that tour?  How can I feel that places?  please suggest
> me.
> 
> thanks and regards,
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Re: [AI] how can a blind enjoy vacations?

[shankar shan]

hi, along with your bag, take some music with you And prepare yourself
to entertain  people with the jokes, if you are good singer, keep
ready with some good songs, if you no to play the chess, carry the
board along with you.
Don’t sit alone, sit with group of people,  and start interact with them.
And Play some memory games.
Possible, when ever you here the new word from the language, try to
learn the meaning and put it in to the context.
Enjoy the road side food.
Take some risk for example, if the group of people going for swimming,
join with them!!!
Don’t hesitate  to hold the cane with your jurny.
Be independent as much as possible.
When ever you are committing with the riskey incidences example, sky
walk, swimming, etc, ask people to take the picture and share on the
social networking sights. And make sure that, you are getting likes!!!
Don’t expect the privacy from the people.
If you are health conscious, keep some medicines with you.
throe  all your negative  thoughts and start packing your bags.
Overall after the jurny, the trip should be remembered  in your life.




On 12/10/16, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Hi Sazid,
>
> Good plan, do go for a vacation, and you will find out that you have
> enjoyed
> it very much! You can't see with your eyes, but you can with your other
> senses! Ask questions, touch everything you can and enjoy all the lovely
> different sounds and smells and eat lots of lovely food! You will realize
> that you have enjoyed the trip more than your sighted friends! For they
> will
> only use probably one sense, and you will use 4! So go have fun and find
> out
> and then do share with us also!
> Warmly
>
> Preeti
>
>
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> Of sazid shaik
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 10:24
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] how can a blind enjoy vacations?
>
> Dear list as the subject line sounds silly but after getting
> completely blind I am planning to go vacation with my zone railway
> employees to various places in south India.  Being a completely blind
> can i enjoy that tour?  How can I feel that places?  please suggest
> me.
>
> thanks and regards,
> sazid
>
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Re: [AI] how can a blind enjoy vacations?

[Preeti Monga]

Hi Sazid,

Good plan, do go for a vacation, and you will find out that you have enjoyed
it very much! You can't see with your eyes, but you can with your other
senses! Ask questions, touch everything you can and enjoy all the lovely
different sounds and smells and eat lots of lovely food! You will realize
that you have enjoyed the trip more than your sighted friends! For they will
only use probably one sense, and you will use 4! So go have fun and find out
and then do share with us also!
Warmly

Preeti


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Of sazid shaik
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 10:24
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] how can a blind enjoy vacations?

Dear list as the subject line sounds silly but after getting
completely blind I am planning to go vacation with my zone railway
employees to various places in south India.  Being a completely blind
can i enjoy that tour?  How can I feel that places?  please suggest
me.

thanks and regards,
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Re: [AI] query regarding buying new laptop

[gufran ahmed]

dear members, thanks for your valuable responses. i will convey the
messages regarding the laptop. it is up to him weather he want to go
for del, lenovo or HP.
tons of thanks to all of you.

On 12/10/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Dell Vostro, You will get an I3 with windows10 for around 35000. Very
> durable machines!
>
> On 12/10/16, Dr. B. S. M. Kumar  wrote:
>> Dear sir,
>> You can also go for linovo model B3050. It consists of I3 processor,
>> 512GB
>> Internal memory, with 4GB ram and 15.3 inch screen.
>> As regards, pressing fn key alongwith F1 to F12 can be changed through
>> Bios
>> setting, with the help of a sighted person.
>>
>> Hope this meets your requirements.
>> Regards,
>>
>>
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>> Director (Industry and Education Relationship), Project Starfish
>> Email: kumar@pstarfish.org
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>> Twitter: @BSMKumar1
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>> -Original Message-
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>> Behalf
>> Of Jeegar Pithava
>> Sent: 10 December 2016 19:30
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] query regarding buying new laptop
>>
>> Dear sir,
>>
>>
>> my friend is using lenovo G5,
>> however, in its keypad one has to use function key constantly while
>> using f1, to f12 key.
>> on my observation I found  above mention configuration.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/9/2016 10:43 PM, gufran ahmed wrote:
>>> hi jeegar thanks for your prompt response, actually he is using HP
>>> till now. could you please throw some light on specific model of
>>> lenovo machines? does lenovo machines are durable like del and hp?
>>> waiting for your response.
>>>
>>> On 12/9/16, Jeegar Pithava  wrote:
 Dear Sir,


 within this budget he  can get following configuration,

 lisence win 10 64 bit,

 around 1 tb hardisk,

 8 gb ram,

 i3 core processor,

 15 inc. screen.


 Etc. Etc.

 check linovo and HP.


 above mentioned maximum one can get under 4


 Thanks



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> near about 4. his basic task would be surfing, word processing,
> checking mails etc. i therefore seeking suggestions from all of you.
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[AI] how can a blind enjoy vacations?

[sazid shaik]

Dear list as the subject line sounds silly but after getting
completely blind I am planning to go vacation with my zone railway
employees to various places in south India.  Being a completely blind
can i enjoy that tour?  How can I feel that places?  please suggest
me.

thanks and regards,
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[AI] any visually challenged person working in railway parcel service

[sazid shaik]

Dear list,
As i am working Indian railways.  I.  I want to work in parcel office.
Is any person working in this?  If not, how can i prepare my
administration to work there?

thanks and regards,
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Re: [AI] HDFC's Talking ATM Implementation: my experience

[bhawani shankar verma]

unfortunately, while designing accessibility companies don't ask or take 
suggestions from end users before designing. accessibility is our right and 
we must fight jointly.



- Original Message - 
From: "Amar Jain" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 2:05 PM
Subject: [AI] HDFC's Talking ATM Implementation: my experience



Dear All,

As most of us are aware that the Reserve Bank of India (the "RBI" ) in
July 2014 made it mandatory for banks to have 25% of their ATMs enabled
for talking prompts so that blind customers among others can use ATM
services independently. Sharing below my experience with HDFC Bank Limited
(the "Bank" ) so far.

1. Braille Enabled ATM Card

The Bank has put in a special card infrastructure in order for the Bank's
customers to use this facility. In order for the Bank's ATMs to provide
talking prompts, the customer is required to request for a Braille enabled
ATM card.

The card has no special features, other than a code to which the card is
mapped so that the machine can detect that this card requires talking
prompts.

Due to lack of awareness about this product in the Bank, you may need to
write to Managing Director, so that the senior management can help you get
this card smoothly. The e-mail address is: managingdirec...@hdfcbank.com
You willl be required to fill an e-edge form, for requesting this card,
and the special card code will be mentioned on the form. Due to
confidentiality reasons, that cannot be disclosed in a public domain.

2. Activation and Services

Once you get the card, you will be required to activate the same using a 4
digit PIN. At the moment, my experience suggests that the card is not
configured to activate using the one time password sent on your mobile.

The card gives you Language Selection options between Hindi and English.
Not all the services are enabled for talking prompts. In my experience,
only Balance Enquiry, PIN Change, Cash Withdrawal, are some of the
services which constitutes part of basic banking are enabled for talking
prompts.

3. Some Observations

From the Bank sources, I understand that approximately 1 ATMs are
configured for this service. However, I have no official confirmation for
the same. Apart from the same, I have following observations on the
implementation:

A. No security measures: the ATMs have no security measures such as
dimming the screen, or ensuring that the audio is played only when the
headphone is plugged in. This makes it slightly less secured.

B. No prompts for Input and Errors: No prompts are provided while keying
in the digits such as on the amount screen. However, it is helpful to note
that at the same time no prompt is given while entering the PIN.

Also, in my experience, some prompts are not provided for error screens
such as 'card is invalid' if you try to insert a card, which is closed due
to wrongly entered PIN / OTP after a number of attempts.

C. Non-bank Customers Deprived: like most of the other banks, the non-bank
customers i.e. those who do not have a HDFC account cannot make use of
this network which deprives such customers from using ATM network of the
Bank.

Over all, while it is good to see that for compliance, a step is taken,
but a lot is yet to be done.

Note: the entire write-up is based on my personal observations and
experience.

Regards,
Amar Jain



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Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[bilal ahmed]

kunchan ma'adam pleas share the same on my personal mail id
bilal0...@yahoo.com

On 12/10/16, sazid shaik  wrote:
> Dear list, how much time it will take to impliment this by central govt
>
> On 12/9/16, sadaf khan  wrote:
>> hi
>> kanchan, could you please send the circular to us?? it will make
>> easier to deal with situations when confronted.
>> regarding the bill, I have yet not understood the need for splitting
>> the low vision and totally blind category, let alone be the increase
>> of the kinds of disabilities.
>>
>> On 12/9/16, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>>> Avinash, On the topic of preferring low vision to the Blind.
>>> Yes I agree that most offices would prefer having persons with low
>>> vision.
>>> So when I was involved with the litigation in Maharashtra we got 2
>>> statements from the government  at different times  stating that the more
>>> disabled person would be preferred for a job.
>>> Yes I know the ground realities but atleast we recognise the problem in
>>> Maharashtra and we have a government circular to deal with it.
>>> Kanchan
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of avinash shahi
>>> Sent: 07 December 2016 12:59
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>
>>> How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided between
>>> totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory read on the
>>> amendments and asking the biggest question why the government has not yet
>>> specified in clear terms about how the 4 per cent reservation will be
>>> distributed among increased categories in the proposed Bill. The
>>> instances
>>> abound where the low-vision have hundred per cent certificate and the
>>> sighted people have low-vision certificate and they are using the
>>> document
>>> to sail through in the government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving
>>> certificate but what about the menace of fake certificates? what does the
>>> law say about it?
>>> I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
>>> Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind people
>>> in
>>> their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government offices don't
>>> want
>>> those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go from here, in hell
>>> perhaps.  people living in the cities and those already employed are
>>> fortunate ones. and those who've sound family support system and keep on
>>> teaching list that 'something is good than nothing' will continue to sing
>>> the government version song  for their personal goals. They are very much
>>> in
>>> demand for awards. And they will continue to play partisan role to be
>>> patronized. upcoming times are not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn
>>> the
>>> art to face the bumpy road from the so called 'normal' and from our own
>>> blind friends who are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational'
>>> and
>>> 'role models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
>>> disabled...
>>>  On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan  wrote:
 reservation of blind will not be tempered.

 On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon.
> Supreme Court..
>
> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
>> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve
>> with this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In
>> my openion, through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated
>> from the main stream.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled." 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>>
>>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally
>>> blind?
>>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" 
>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.'" 
>>> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>>
>>>
 No it isn’t.
 It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great
 non
 strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
 Kanchan

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia 

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Ajay Minocha]

Hi Shyam,

Please mention your address as a reply to this email, God knows, you
might be the magician who can restore my eyesight?





On 12/9/16, shyam sharma  wrote:
> Hi all,
> I think Mr. Ajay is a partially sighted person who can easily operate
> mobiles without any screen reader's assistance because only a
> partially sighted person can talk like this.
>
> Regards,
> Shyam
>
>
> On 12/9/16, P L VERMA  wrote:
>> also, the *99#  for not so smart phone walas like me
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ashik" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled." 
>> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 4:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>>
>>> Dear Sir,
>>>
>>> You have mentioned some very commonly used apps above. People will more
>>> than happy to use them with your guidance. It's better for us that you
>>> make some audio tutorials on them. I have started using Paytm recently. I
>>> had to struggle a lot initially. But, if I had some tutorial on it, the
>>> task would have been much easier. You and some institutes like Saksham
>>> can
>>>
>>> do the job for the benefit of the blind who are not so techno-savvy.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Ashik Hirani
>>> 845998
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ajay Minocha" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled." ; "bhawani
>>> shankar verma" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 4:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>>> payments is tough call
>>>
>>>
 Hi all,

 Happy to guide on BOB, HDFC, SBI and paytm

 Regards,
 Ajay

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 On December 8, 2016 3:54:49 PM "bhawani shankar verma"
  wrote:

> agreed, accessible machines with speech technology is required. UPI
> interface is recently launched utility and it will get popularity soon
> as if
> the sender and recipient creates vertual address, they need not to
> disclose
> the account details. it will be more safe and secure as the disability
> is
> concerned.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Zoher Kheriwala
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:21 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
> online
> payments is tough call
>
> Dear Ajai,
> Generating a receipt by POS machine does not confirm the receipt of
> payment. Sometimes amount is deducted from customers account but
> transaction gets failed due to server problem. In above case the POS
> machine generates transaction failed receipt which we have to give to
> customer as a proof of unsuccessful transaction. We experience same
> thing on online payment as amount get deducted from our account but
> the online store does not receive the payment. This is very common
> with IRCTC web site.
> Bhawani sir, in today’s competitive market we have to give that
> payment options which are comfortable to customer, swiping the card is
> commonly accepted method of cashless transaction.
> .
>
> On 12/8/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> they can give the customer his IFSC code and account number. the
>> customer
>> can transfer money instantly through UPI. as you quoted a small
>> business
>> owner, the transfer limit of Rs.1/- UPI limit should suffice the
>> matter.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Zoher Kheriwala" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled." 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
>> online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>>
>>> Hi friends,
>>> till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
>>> customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
>>> who suffers from blindness?
>>> the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at
>>> all
>>> accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
>>> the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
>>> security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
>>> each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
>>> failure a blind shop owner 

Re: [AI] query regarding buying new laptop

[Ajay Minocha]

Dell Vostro, You will get an I3 with windows10 for around 35000. Very
durable machines!

On 12/10/16, Dr. B. S. M. Kumar  wrote:
> Dear sir,
> You can also go for linovo model B3050. It consists of I3 processor, 512GB
> Internal memory, with 4GB ram and 15.3 inch screen.
> As regards, pressing fn key alongwith F1 to F12 can be changed through Bios
> setting, with the help of a sighted person.
>
> Hope this meets your requirements.
> Regards,
>
>
> Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.
> Director (Industry and Education Relationship), Project Starfish
> Email: kumar@pstarfish.org
> Linkedin: https://in.linkedin.com/in/dr-kumar-bsm-39887864
> Twitter: @BSMKumar1
> Cell: +91-9840139849
> Skype: bsm.kumar
> |
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>  |
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> shared service for business and start-ups"
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Jeegar Pithava
> Sent: 10 December 2016 19:30
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] query regarding buying new laptop
>
> Dear sir,
>
>
> my friend is using lenovo G5,
> however, in its keypad one has to use function key constantly while
> using f1, to f12 key.
> on my observation I found  above mention configuration.
>
>
>
>
> On 12/9/2016 10:43 PM, gufran ahmed wrote:
>> hi jeegar thanks for your prompt response, actually he is using HP
>> till now. could you please throw some light on specific model of
>> lenovo machines? does lenovo machines are durable like del and hp?
>> waiting for your response.
>>
>> On 12/9/16, Jeegar Pithava  wrote:
>>> Dear Sir,
>>>
>>>
>>> within this budget he  can get following configuration,
>>>
>>> lisence win 10 64 bit,
>>>
>>> around 1 tb hardisk,
>>>
>>> 8 gb ram,
>>>
>>> i3 core processor,
>>>
>>> 15 inc. screen.
>>>
>>>
>>> Etc. Etc.
>>>
>>> check linovo and HP.
>>>
>>>
>>> above mentioned maximum one can get under 4
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/9/2016 7:54 AM, gufran ahmed wrote:
 dear all, one of my friend want to buy a new laptop. his budget is
 near about 4. his basic task would be surfing, word processing,
 checking mails etc. i therefore seeking suggestions from all of you.
 in order to find the laptop with latest and best configurations.
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Re: [AI] facebook on computer

[Shreedhar TS.]

You can very well use facebook with JAWS. Instead of using
www.facebook.com/ (which is little bulky and screen reader becomes
sluggish at times) you can try using m.facebook.com/ I did try it with
Mozilla Firefox, I believe it should work in IE too.

On 12/10/16, Mohit Gupta  wrote:
> Dear friends,
> I want to use facebook on computer. Can I operate it using jaws
> easily?Which browser should I use for better experience?
>
> --
> Thanks and Regards,
> Mohit Gupta.
> Rajasthan.
>
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[AI] facebook on computer

[Mohit Gupta]

Dear friends,
I want to use facebook on computer. Can I operate it using jaws
easily?Which browser should I use for better experience?

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Re: [AI] query regarding buying new laptop

[Dr. B. S. M. Kumar]

Dear sir,
You can also go for linovo model B3050. It consists of I3 processor, 512GB
Internal memory, with 4GB ram and 15.3 inch screen.
As regards, pressing fn key alongwith F1 to F12 can be changed through Bios
setting, with the help of a sighted person.

Hope this meets your requirements.
Regards,


Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.
Director (Industry and Education Relationship), Project Starfish  
Email: kumar@pstarfish.org
Linkedin: https://in.linkedin.com/in/dr-kumar-bsm-39887864
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shared service for business and start-ups" 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Jeegar Pithava
Sent: 10 December 2016 19:30
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] query regarding buying new laptop

Dear sir,


my friend is using lenovo G5,
however, in its keypad one has to use function key constantly while 
using f1, to f12 key.
on my observation I found  above mention configuration.




On 12/9/2016 10:43 PM, gufran ahmed wrote:
> hi jeegar thanks for your prompt response, actually he is using HP
> till now. could you please throw some light on specific model of
> lenovo machines? does lenovo machines are durable like del and hp?
> waiting for your response.
>
> On 12/9/16, Jeegar Pithava  wrote:
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>>
>> within this budget he  can get following configuration,
>>
>> lisence win 10 64 bit,
>>
>> around 1 tb hardisk,
>>
>> 8 gb ram,
>>
>> i3 core processor,
>>
>> 15 inc. screen.
>>
>>
>> Etc. Etc.
>>
>> check linovo and HP.
>>
>>
>> above mentioned maximum one can get under 4
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/9/2016 7:54 AM, gufran ahmed wrote:
>>> dear all, one of my friend want to buy a new laptop. his budget is
>>> near about 4. his basic task would be surfing, word processing,
>>> checking mails etc. i therefore seeking suggestions from all of you.
>>> in order to find the laptop with latest and best configurations.
>>> waiting for your reply.
>>>
>>>
>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
of
>>> mobile phones / Tabs on:
>>>
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ia.org.in
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>>>
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mails
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like to request the moderator to take action  on this person.
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Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[shankar shan]

100 percent I agree  with ajay’s words.
It all depends on the person’s intrest’s
Its just my opinion, if the person is interested towards the
development  of app accessibility, they may directly contact  the
developer and suggest the bug fixes.

For captcha they can provide the  check box to solve it, and also the
technology improved tremendously the OTP can red by device.
For your kind information, the devolopers does not go with manual
coding,  they allways coded with some softwares.
some times, they mess up with coding.
Many devolopers does not no about the accessibility, aria, web standards.
I have seen that, many n g o’s represent the visually impaired’ people
for learnings, rather than the devolopers.
Till now, no n g o has conducted the workshop for the devolopers.

Many times, we will go for the razing the campains towards the
employment, helth, mobility. Etc but not towards the accessibility.
The visually impaired bank emploies has to educate the bankers  to
provide the fecilitys for the visually impaireds.

And also, many times I have seen that,  complaining on this  list
saying, not getting the banking fecilities. From the list members.
cannt they  approach  the visually impaired bankers in the branch to
awail the fecilities?

Most of the people might not have the computer knowledge, but, many
people has the knowledge of handeling the android devices.
Each and every state/city has there own whatsapp group  to educate on
the android.
There might chance that, 5 to 10  percentage of the people may still
using the nokia/simbian devices.

Why cant the group admins  and the nearest visually impaired bank
emploies take the chance to educate  on the cashless transactions,
online shopping., and other aspects?

I think, before approaching  the government or other sighted people,
let us help other blind friends  to educate with our knowledge.

I don’t know, how was the survey  conducted, the Zomato app is not
much accessible. Compare to foodponda.
In my view, the foodpanda is much accessible than the Zomato.
The foodpanda has some issues with the buttons and the images. But,
the Zomato  is not much accessible for the screen reader users.







On 12/10/16, m.chandrashekar  wrote:
> in my opinion, getting a place in big shopping mahal like, big bazar, total
> mahal, megha more, etc for visually impaired person, is very comfortable.
> risk is very less compared to running independent shop.
> with best regards, m.chandru
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Zoher Kheriwala
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
> payments is tough call
>
> Hi friends,
> till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
> customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
> who suffers from blindness?
> the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at all
> accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
> the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
> security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
> each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
> failure a blind shop owner does not come to know that whether the
> payment received successfully or not.
>
> On 12/7/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> i suggest to use UPI app of your bank in particular. in my case it is pnb
>> UPI app and is 90% accessible. Some buttons are to be labled manually. you
>> need not to register yourself for internet banking etc. you can register
>> it
>> through your linked mobile number, and debit card with a particular
>> account.
>> the maximum limit is rs.1/- through this mode.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "George Abraham" 
>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>>
>>> Rightly said! I see it as an opportunity  for us to push for access to
>>> all
>>>
>>> financial services including all websites, apps etc.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa
>>> Sent: 07 December 2016 14:03
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>>
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>>> payments is tough call
>>>
>>> Dear all
>>> Of course every blind or visually impaired are not literate or tech
>>> sabby. This is the case with the non-disabled people too. Moreover
>>> cashless is not going to happen overnight. But there are many 

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Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder

[Shreedhar TS.]

Hi,

The idea looks very interesting and promising. The idea of "neck
strap" is very novel and great in my opinion. The gesture-based
interaction with the app is also very nice. Surely, once you come up
with the prototype, then you will get good feedback.
All the very best for your work.

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>
>I am Bharath. I work on designing android applications. These days I
> understood that visually Impaired users find very difficult to detect
> currency notes. There are so many apps available for solving this problem.
> But in our user study conducted with some users, I found that none of them
> use this apps. I found that the problem is, most of the users find
> difficult to hold mobiles in public places and scan the notes, So I thought
> of designing a neck strap that allows the mobile to hold mobile in a stable
> position. I am designing the app in a way that it can be opened by a
> gesture performed and it automatically flashes light when the light is dim.
> It also detect bunch of notes as follows: consider a shopkeeper gave a
> visually impaired user some bunch of notes. The visually impaired user now
> holds all the notes in his left hand and takes one by one note from his
> left to right hand in this time the camera scans the notes. When the user
> shows thumb symbol to the camera then it will give a audio feedback saying
> that you have 10 10 rupee notes on the top with 5 100 rupee notes in the
> bottom. Can you please share me how do you use these apps if yes? Can you
> please give me feedback about my product?
>
> Thanks,
> Bharath.
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Re: [AI] query regarding buying new laptop

[Jeegar Pithava]

Dear sir,


my friend is using lenovo G5,
however, in its keypad one has to use function key constantly while 
using f1, to f12 key.

on my observation I found  above mention configuration.




On 12/9/2016 10:43 PM, gufran ahmed wrote:

hi jeegar thanks for your prompt response, actually he is using HP
till now. could you please throw some light on specific model of
lenovo machines? does lenovo machines are durable like del and hp?
waiting for your response.

On 12/9/16, Jeegar Pithava  wrote:

Dear Sir,


within this budget he  can get following configuration,

lisence win 10 64 bit,

around 1 tb hardisk,

8 gb ram,

i3 core processor,

15 inc. screen.


Etc. Etc.

check linovo and HP.


above mentioned maximum one can get under 4


Thanks



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dear all, one of my friend want to buy a new laptop. his budget is
near about 4. his basic task would be surfing, word processing,
checking mails etc. i therefore seeking suggestions from all of you.
in order to find the laptop with latest and best configurations.
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Re: [AI] require talking rist watch

[shraddha edke]

Hi,

I've got a decent one!

But my sister got for me from USA.

And i guess they've orderd it it online.

Thanx

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[AI] require talking rist watch

[Austin Pinto]

hi all.
can some1 tell me good places to purchase talking rist watch for a
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i saw some talking watches on flipkart and amazon can the watches be trusted?
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Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder

[Pabba ANU BHARATH]

Yeah rajendra, After our user study conducted we found that their is no
need of secure authentication to detect fakeness of a note is needed.
Eventhough our app  try to scan most of the parts in a note.

And sure I will come up with a prototype soon and will get back to you guys.

Thanks, Bharath.

On 10-Dec-2016 5:42 pm, "rajendra dhurve"  wrote:

> Fantastic boy.
> really wonderful idea!!
> Please come up with your Awesome app!
> What I think is: Your app must have another feature that if it could
> identify the Fake noats too!!
> Cheers
> RD
>
> On 12/10/16, shankar shan  wrote:
> > exactly subash,
> > barath, please come with a proto type app for the demo.
> > then will give u the feedback
> >
> > few days back, even eye-d people created the Ccuriacity about the
> > physical keyboard for android, and for there reference, they collected
> > the data and the feedback.
> > till now, there is no information on the keyboard.
> >
> >
> > I dont no about others, without the product, i am not going to share
> > any feedback about the ideas which u have mentioned above.
> >
> >
> > On 12/10/16, Subhash Kumar  wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> How can we give you the feedback without using the app?
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Pabba ANU BHARATH" 
> >> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> >> concerning
> >>
> >> the disabled." 
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:30 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Shraddha, I didn't develop the app. I am currently in design stage.
> >>> Can
> >>> you please give me feedback about the product described.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Pabba.
> >>>
> >>> On 10-Dec-2016 2:52 pm, "shraddha edke" 
> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi bharath. Can u share d link of d app from which we can download d
>  same?
> 
>  Thanks,
>  Shrraddha
> 
>  On 10-Dec-2016 2:41 pm, "Pabba ANU BHARATH" 
>  wrote:
> 
>  > Hello All,
>  >
>  >I am Bharath. I work on designing android applications. These
>  days I
>  > understood that visually Impaired users find very difficult to
> detect
>  > currency notes. There are so many apps available for solving this
>  problem.
>  > But in our user study conducted with some users, I found that none
> of
>  them
>  > use this apps. I found that the problem is, most of the users find
>  > difficult to hold mobiles in public places and scan the notes, So I
>  thought
>  > of designing a neck strap that allows the mobile to hold mobile in a
>  stable
>  > position. I am designing the app in a way that it can be opened by a
>  > gesture performed and it automatically flashes light when the light
>  > is
>  dim.
>  > It also detect bunch of notes as follows: consider a shopkeeper gave
>  > a
>  > visually impaired user some bunch of notes. The visually impaired
>  > user
>  now
>  > holds all the notes in his left hand and takes one by one note from
>  > his
>  > left to right hand in this time the camera scans the notes. When the
>  > user
>  > shows thumb symbol to the camera then it will give a audio feedback
>  saying
>  > that you have 10 10 rupee notes on the top with 5 100 rupee notes in
>  > the
>  > bottom. Can you please share me how do you use these apps if yes?
> Can
>  > you
>  > please give me feedback about my product?
>  >
>  > Thanks,
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Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder

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Fantastic boy.
really wonderful idea!!
Please come up with your Awesome app!
What I think is: Your app must have another feature that if it could
identify the Fake noats too!!
Cheers
RD

On 12/10/16, shankar shan  wrote:
> exactly subash,
> barath, please come with a proto type app for the demo.
> then will give u the feedback
>
> few days back, even eye-d people created the Ccuriacity about the
> physical keyboard for android, and for there reference, they collected
> the data and the feedback.
> till now, there is no information on the keyboard.
>
>
> I dont no about others, without the product, i am not going to share
> any feedback about the ideas which u have mentioned above.
>
>
> On 12/10/16, Subhash Kumar  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> How can we give you the feedback without using the app?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Pabba ANU BHARATH" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>>
>> the disabled." 
>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder
>>
>>
>>> Hi Shraddha, I didn't develop the app. I am currently in design stage.
>>> Can
>>> you please give me feedback about the product described.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Pabba.
>>>
>>> On 10-Dec-2016 2:52 pm, "shraddha edke"  wrote:
>>>
 Hi bharath. Can u share d link of d app from which we can download d
 same?

 Thanks,
 Shrraddha

 On 10-Dec-2016 2:41 pm, "Pabba ANU BHARATH" 
 wrote:

 > Hello All,
 >
 >I am Bharath. I work on designing android applications. These
 days I
 > understood that visually Impaired users find very difficult to detect
 > currency notes. There are so many apps available for solving this
 problem.
 > But in our user study conducted with some users, I found that none of
 them
 > use this apps. I found that the problem is, most of the users find
 > difficult to hold mobiles in public places and scan the notes, So I
 thought
 > of designing a neck strap that allows the mobile to hold mobile in a
 stable
 > position. I am designing the app in a way that it can be opened by a
 > gesture performed and it automatically flashes light when the light
 > is
 dim.
 > It also detect bunch of notes as follows: consider a shopkeeper gave
 > a
 > visually impaired user some bunch of notes. The visually impaired
 > user
 now
 > holds all the notes in his left hand and takes one by one note from
 > his
 > left to right hand in this time the camera scans the notes. When the
 > user
 > shows thumb symbol to the camera then it will give a audio feedback
 saying
 > that you have 10 10 rupee notes on the top with 5 100 rupee notes in
 > the
 > bottom. Can you please share me how do you use these apps if yes? Can
 > you
 > please give me feedback about my product?
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Bharath.
 >
 > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
 > accessibility
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Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[m.chandrashekar]

in my opinion, getting a place in big shopping mahal like, big bazar, total 
mahal, megha more, etc for visually impaired person, is very comfortable. 
risk is very less compared to running independent shop.

with best regards, m.chandru

-Original Message- 
From: Zoher Kheriwala

Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online 
payments is tough call


Hi friends,
till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
who suffers from blindness?
the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at all
accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
failure a blind shop owner does not come to know that whether the
payment received successfully or not.

On 12/7/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

i suggest to use UPI app of your bank in particular. in my case it is pnb
UPI app and is 90% accessible. Some buttons are to be labled manually. you
need not to register yourself for internet banking etc. you can register 
it
through your linked mobile number, and debit card with a particular 
account.

the maximum limit is rs.1/- through this mode.

- Original Message -
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
payments is tough call


Rightly said! I see it as an opportunity  for us to push for access to 
all


financial services including all websites, apps etc.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa
Sent: 07 December 2016 14:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning


the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
payments is tough call

Dear all
Of course every blind or visually impaired are not literate or tech
sabby. This is the case with the non-disabled people too. Moreover
cashless is not going to happen overnight. But there are many among us
who are familiar with cashless system and can use without any
difficulty. So the debate should be how to make the system accessible
and how to remove the administrative bottleneck and proper
implementation of the programmes and policies. Just take the instances
of denial of ATM card and cheque facilities by various bank branches.

Leikhu Laishram


On 12/7/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Hey George sir,

I completely agree but my main concern is the denial towards embracing
the
change by those who are teck literate.

Regards,
Ajay

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On December 7, 2016 7:11:32 AM "George Abraham" 
wrote:


Ajay,

The point is well made. But the point to be noted is that millions of
blind
people in India are not computer/tech literate. Most banking facilities
are
inaccessible and many banks still do not easily provide banking
facilities

to blind people. Alongside pushing the cashless system, it is important
to

empower the blind individual, and make accessible the tools of the
cashless
economy and banks have to start engaging with blind customers. The
switch
is not quite that simple. This cashless economy makes it all the more
critical that Digital India becomes accessible.

Regards,

George


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Ajay Minocha
Sent: 06 December 2016 23:54
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
online
payments is tough call

Hi sir,

Let’s not debate on the advantages and disadvantages of cash and
without cash payment systems. As an academician, it’s your
responsibility to see the positive side of the fast and ever-changing
society and impart that knowledge to your students. I still remember
that example shared on our own list regarding the introduction of
computers in government organisations. Though there are people who are
happy to have a free lunch at their workplace but there also exists a
bunch of individuals who have achieved spectacular growth in their
careers using the same technology. Go to the office environment of
20/25 years ago and you wouldn’t be able to imagine a blind person at
a post higher than a typist/ telephone operator. According to me,
every big change 

Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder

[shankar shan]

exactly subash,
barath, please come with a proto type app for the demo.
then will give u the feedback

few days back, even eye-d people created the Ccuriacity about the
physical keyboard for android, and for there reference, they collected
the data and the feedback.
till now, there is no information on the keyboard.


I dont no about others, without the product, i am not going to share
any feedback about the ideas which u have mentioned above.


On 12/10/16, Subhash Kumar  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How can we give you the feedback without using the app?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pabba ANU BHARATH" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>
> the disabled." 
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder
>
>
>> Hi Shraddha, I didn't develop the app. I am currently in design stage.
>> Can
>> you please give me feedback about the product described.
>>
>> Thanks, Pabba.
>>
>> On 10-Dec-2016 2:52 pm, "shraddha edke"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi bharath. Can u share d link of d app from which we can download d
>>> same?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Shrraddha
>>>
>>> On 10-Dec-2016 2:41 pm, "Pabba ANU BHARATH" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello All,
>>> >
>>> >I am Bharath. I work on designing android applications. These
>>> days I
>>> > understood that visually Impaired users find very difficult to detect
>>> > currency notes. There are so many apps available for solving this
>>> problem.
>>> > But in our user study conducted with some users, I found that none of
>>> them
>>> > use this apps. I found that the problem is, most of the users find
>>> > difficult to hold mobiles in public places and scan the notes, So I
>>> thought
>>> > of designing a neck strap that allows the mobile to hold mobile in a
>>> stable
>>> > position. I am designing the app in a way that it can be opened by a
>>> > gesture performed and it automatically flashes light when the light is
>>> dim.
>>> > It also detect bunch of notes as follows: consider a shopkeeper gave a
>>> > visually impaired user some bunch of notes. The visually impaired user
>>> now
>>> > holds all the notes in his left hand and takes one by one note from
>>> > his
>>> > left to right hand in this time the camera scans the notes. When the
>>> > user
>>> > shows thumb symbol to the camera then it will give a audio feedback
>>> saying
>>> > that you have 10 10 rupee notes on the top with 5 100 rupee notes in
>>> > the
>>> > bottom. Can you please share me how do you use these apps if yes? Can
>>> > you
>>> > please give me feedback about my product?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Bharath.
>>> >
>>> > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
>>> > accessibility
>>> of
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Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder

[Subhash Kumar]

Hi,

How can we give you the feedback without using the app?
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Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder



Hi Shraddha, I didn't develop the app. I am currently in design stage. Can
you please give me feedback about the product described.

Thanks, Pabba.

On 10-Dec-2016 2:52 pm, "shraddha edke"  wrote:

Hi bharath. Can u share d link of d app from which we can download d 
same?


Thanks,
Shrraddha

On 10-Dec-2016 2:41 pm, "Pabba ANU BHARATH" 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
>I am Bharath. I work on designing android applications. These
days I
> understood that visually Impaired users find very difficult to detect
> currency notes. There are so many apps available for solving this
problem.
> But in our user study conducted with some users, I found that none of
them
> use this apps. I found that the problem is, most of the users find
> difficult to hold mobiles in public places and scan the notes, So I
thought
> of designing a neck strap that allows the mobile to hold mobile in a
stable
> position. I am designing the app in a way that it can be opened by a
> gesture performed and it automatically flashes light when the light is
dim.
> It also detect bunch of notes as follows: consider a shopkeeper gave a
> visually impaired user some bunch of notes. The visually impaired user
now
> holds all the notes in his left hand and takes one by one note from his
> left to right hand in this time the camera scans the notes. When the 
> user

> shows thumb symbol to the camera then it will give a audio feedback
saying
> that you have 10 10 rupee notes on the top with 5 100 rupee notes in 
> the
> bottom. Can you please share me how do you use these apps if yes? Can 
> you

> please give me feedback about my product?
>
> Thanks,
> Bharath.
>
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Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder

[shraddha edke]

Sounds intresting n helpfull.

On 10-Dec-2016 4:33 pm, "Pabba ANU BHARATH"  wrote:

> Hi Shraddha, I didn't develop the app. I am currently in design stage. Can
> you please give me feedback about the product described.
>
> Thanks, Pabba.
>
> On 10-Dec-2016 2:52 pm, "shraddha edke"  wrote:
>
> > Hi bharath. Can u share d link of d app from which we can download d
> same?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Shrraddha
> >
> > On 10-Dec-2016 2:41 pm, "Pabba ANU BHARATH" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > >I am Bharath. I work on designing android applications. These
> > days I
> > > understood that visually Impaired users find very difficult to detect
> > > currency notes. There are so many apps available for solving this
> > problem.
> > > But in our user study conducted with some users, I found that none of
> > them
> > > use this apps. I found that the problem is, most of the users find
> > > difficult to hold mobiles in public places and scan the notes, So I
> > thought
> > > of designing a neck strap that allows the mobile to hold mobile in a
> > stable
> > > position. I am designing the app in a way that it can be opened by a
> > > gesture performed and it automatically flashes light when the light is
> > dim.
> > > It also detect bunch of notes as follows: consider a shopkeeper gave a
> > > visually impaired user some bunch of notes. The visually impaired user
> > now
> > > holds all the notes in his left hand and takes one by one note from his
> > > left to right hand in this time the camera scans the notes. When the
> user
> > > shows thumb symbol to the camera then it will give a audio feedback
> > saying
> > > that you have 10 10 rupee notes on the top with 5 100 rupee notes in
> the
> > > bottom. Can you please share me how do you use these apps if yes? Can
> you
> > > please give me feedback about my product?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bharath.
> > >
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> > of
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Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder

[Pabba ANU BHARATH]

Hi Shraddha, I didn't develop the app. I am currently in design stage. Can
you please give me feedback about the product described.

Thanks, Pabba.

On 10-Dec-2016 2:52 pm, "shraddha edke"  wrote:

> Hi bharath. Can u share d link of d app from which we can download d same?
>
> Thanks,
> Shrraddha
>
> On 10-Dec-2016 2:41 pm, "Pabba ANU BHARATH" 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> >I am Bharath. I work on designing android applications. These
> days I
> > understood that visually Impaired users find very difficult to detect
> > currency notes. There are so many apps available for solving this
> problem.
> > But in our user study conducted with some users, I found that none of
> them
> > use this apps. I found that the problem is, most of the users find
> > difficult to hold mobiles in public places and scan the notes, So I
> thought
> > of designing a neck strap that allows the mobile to hold mobile in a
> stable
> > position. I am designing the app in a way that it can be opened by a
> > gesture performed and it automatically flashes light when the light is
> dim.
> > It also detect bunch of notes as follows: consider a shopkeeper gave a
> > visually impaired user some bunch of notes. The visually impaired user
> now
> > holds all the notes in his left hand and takes one by one note from his
> > left to right hand in this time the camera scans the notes. When the user
> > shows thumb symbol to the camera then it will give a audio feedback
> saying
> > that you have 10 10 rupee notes on the top with 5 100 rupee notes in the
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Re: [AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder

[shraddha edke]

Hi bharath. Can u share d link of d app from which we can download d same?

Thanks,
Shrraddha

On 10-Dec-2016 2:41 pm, "Pabba ANU BHARATH"  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
>I am Bharath. I work on designing android applications. These days I
> understood that visually Impaired users find very difficult to detect
> currency notes. There are so many apps available for solving this problem.
> But in our user study conducted with some users, I found that none of them
> use this apps. I found that the problem is, most of the users find
> difficult to hold mobiles in public places and scan the notes, So I thought
> of designing a neck strap that allows the mobile to hold mobile in a stable
> position. I am designing the app in a way that it can be opened by a
> gesture performed and it automatically flashes light when the light is dim.
> It also detect bunch of notes as follows: consider a shopkeeper gave a
> visually impaired user some bunch of notes. The visually impaired user now
> holds all the notes in his left hand and takes one by one note from his
> left to right hand in this time the camera scans the notes. When the user
> shows thumb symbol to the camera then it will give a audio feedback saying
> that you have 10 10 rupee notes on the top with 5 100 rupee notes in the
> bottom. Can you please share me how do you use these apps if yes? Can you
> please give me feedback about my product?
>
> Thanks,
> Bharath.
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Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[sazid shaik]

Dear list, how much time it will take to impliment this by central govt

On 12/9/16, sadaf khan  wrote:
> hi
> kanchan, could you please send the circular to us?? it will make
> easier to deal with situations when confronted.
> regarding the bill, I have yet not understood the need for splitting
> the low vision and totally blind category, let alone be the increase
> of the kinds of disabilities.
>
> On 12/9/16, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>> Avinash, On the topic of preferring low vision to the Blind.
>> Yes I agree that most offices would prefer having persons with low vision.
>> So when I was involved with the litigation in Maharashtra we got 2
>> statements from the government  at different times  stating that the more
>> disabled person would be preferred for a job.
>> Yes I know the ground realities but atleast we recognise the problem in
>> Maharashtra and we have a government circular to deal with it.
>> Kanchan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 07 December 2016 12:59
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>> How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided between
>> totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory read on the
>> amendments and asking the biggest question why the government has not yet
>> specified in clear terms about how the 4 per cent reservation will be
>> distributed among increased categories in the proposed Bill. The instances
>> abound where the low-vision have hundred per cent certificate and the
>> sighted people have low-vision certificate and they are using the document
>> to sail through in the government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving
>> certificate but what about the menace of fake certificates? what does the
>> law say about it?
>> I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
>> Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind people
>> in
>> their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government offices don't
>> want
>> those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go from here, in hell
>> perhaps.  people living in the cities and those already employed are
>> fortunate ones. and those who've sound family support system and keep on
>> teaching list that 'something is good than nothing' will continue to sing
>> the government version song  for their personal goals. They are very much
>> in
>> demand for awards. And they will continue to play partisan role to be
>> patronized. upcoming times are not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn
>> the
>> art to face the bumpy road from the so called 'normal' and from our own
>> blind friends who are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational' and
>> 'role models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
>> disabled...
>>  On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan  wrote:
>>> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>>>
>>> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
 Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon.
 Supreme Court..

 On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
> I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve
> with this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In
> my openion, through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated
> from the main stream.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sakina Dhariwala " 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled." 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
>
>> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally
>> blind?
>> With warm regards Sakina.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" 
>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled.'" 
>> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>>
>>
>>> No it isn’t.
>>> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great non
>>> strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
>>> Kanchan
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Mujeeb Rahman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:28 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB 

[AI] Rupee Checker App with a stable Holder

[Pabba ANU BHARATH]

Hello All,

   I am Bharath. I work on designing android applications. These days I
understood that visually Impaired users find very difficult to detect
currency notes. There are so many apps available for solving this problem.
But in our user study conducted with some users, I found that none of them
use this apps. I found that the problem is, most of the users find
difficult to hold mobiles in public places and scan the notes, So I thought
of designing a neck strap that allows the mobile to hold mobile in a stable
position. I am designing the app in a way that it can be opened by a
gesture performed and it automatically flashes light when the light is dim.
It also detect bunch of notes as follows: consider a shopkeeper gave a
visually impaired user some bunch of notes. The visually impaired user now
holds all the notes in his left hand and takes one by one note from his
left to right hand in this time the camera scans the notes. When the user
shows thumb symbol to the camera then it will give a audio feedback saying
that you have 10 10 rupee notes on the top with 5 100 rupee notes in the
bottom. Can you please share me how do you use these apps if yes? Can you
please give me feedback about my product?

Thanks,
Bharath.

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Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Mohit Gupta]

dear shyam
You are pointing wrong facts.

On 12/9/16, shyam sharma  wrote:
> Hi all,
> I think Mr. Ajay is a partially sighted person who can easily operate
> mobiles without any screen reader's assistance because only a
> partially sighted person can talk like this.
>
> Regards,
> Shyam
>
>
> On 12/9/16, P L VERMA  wrote:
>> also, the *99#  for not so smart phone walas like me
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ashik" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled." 
>> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 4:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>>
>>> Dear Sir,
>>>
>>> You have mentioned some very commonly used apps above. People will more
>>> than happy to use them with your guidance. It's better for us that you
>>> make some audio tutorials on them. I have started using Paytm recently. I
>>> had to struggle a lot initially. But, if I had some tutorial on it, the
>>> task would have been much easier. You and some institutes like Saksham
>>> can
>>>
>>> do the job for the benefit of the blind who are not so techno-savvy.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Ashik Hirani
>>> 845998
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ajay Minocha" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled." ; "bhawani
>>> shankar verma" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 4:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>>> payments is tough call
>>>
>>>
 Hi all,

 Happy to guide on BOB, HDFC, SBI and paytm

 Regards,
 Ajay

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 On December 8, 2016 3:54:49 PM "bhawani shankar verma"
  wrote:

> agreed, accessible machines with speech technology is required. UPI
> interface is recently launched utility and it will get popularity soon
> as if
> the sender and recipient creates vertual address, they need not to
> disclose
> the account details. it will be more safe and secure as the disability
> is
> concerned.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Zoher Kheriwala
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:21 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
> online
> payments is tough call
>
> Dear Ajai,
> Generating a receipt by POS machine does not confirm the receipt of
> payment. Sometimes amount is deducted from customers account but
> transaction gets failed due to server problem. In above case the POS
> machine generates transaction failed receipt which we have to give to
> customer as a proof of unsuccessful transaction. We experience same
> thing on online payment as amount get deducted from our account but
> the online store does not receive the payment. This is very common
> with IRCTC web site.
> Bhawani sir, in today’s competitive market we have to give that
> payment options which are comfortable to customer, swiping the card is
> commonly accepted method of cashless transaction.
> .
>
> On 12/8/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> they can give the customer his IFSC code and account number. the
>> customer
>> can transfer money instantly through UPI. as you quoted a small
>> business
>> owner, the transfer limit of Rs.1/- UPI limit should suffice the
>> matter.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Zoher Kheriwala" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled." 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
>> online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>>
>>> Hi friends,
>>> till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
>>> customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
>>> who suffers from blindness?
>>> the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at
>>> all
>>> accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
>>> the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
>>> security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
>>> each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
>>> failure a blind shop owner does not come to know that whether the
>>> payment received successfully or not.
>>>

[AI] HDFC's Talking ATM Implementation: my experience

[Amar Jain]

Dear All,

As most of us are aware that the Reserve Bank of India (the "RBI" ) in
July 2014 made it mandatory for banks to have 25% of their ATMs enabled
for talking prompts so that blind customers among others can use ATM
services independently. Sharing below my experience with HDFC Bank Limited
(the "Bank" ) so far.

1. Braille Enabled ATM Card

The Bank has put in a special card infrastructure in order for the Bank's
customers to use this facility. In order for the Bank's ATMs to provide
talking prompts, the customer is required to request for a Braille enabled
ATM card.

The card has no special features, other than a code to which the card is
mapped so that the machine can detect that this card requires talking
prompts.

Due to lack of awareness about this product in the Bank, you may need to
write to Managing Director, so that the senior management can help you get
this card smoothly. The e-mail address is: managingdirec...@hdfcbank.com
You willl be required to fill an e-edge form, for requesting this card,
and the special card code will be mentioned on the form. Due to
confidentiality reasons, that cannot be disclosed in a public domain.

2. Activation and Services

Once you get the card, you will be required to activate the same using a 4
digit PIN. At the moment, my experience suggests that the card is not
configured to activate using the one time password sent on your mobile.

The card gives you Language Selection options between Hindi and English.
Not all the services are enabled for talking prompts. In my experience,
only Balance Enquiry, PIN Change, Cash Withdrawal, are some of the
services which constitutes part of basic banking are enabled for talking
prompts.

3. Some Observations

>From the Bank sources, I understand that approximately 1 ATMs are
configured for this service. However, I have no official confirmation for
the same. Apart from the same, I have following observations on the
implementation:

A. No security measures: the ATMs have no security measures such as
dimming the screen, or ensuring that the audio is played only when the
headphone is plugged in. This makes it slightly less secured.

B. No prompts for Input and Errors: No prompts are provided while keying
in the digits such as on the amount screen. However, it is helpful to note
that at the same time no prompt is given while entering the PIN.

Also, in my experience, some prompts are not provided for error screens
such as 'card is invalid' if you try to insert a card, which is closed due
to wrongly entered PIN / OTP after a number of attempts.

C. Non-bank Customers Deprived: like most of the other banks, the non-bank
customers i.e. those who do not have a HDFC account cannot make use of
this network which deprives such customers from using ATM network of the
Bank.

Over all, while it is good to see that for compliance, a step is taken,
but a lot is yet to be done.

Note: the entire write-up is based on my personal observations and
experience.

Regards,
Amar Jain



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Re: [AI] Introductry e-mail

[Dr. B. S. M. Kumar]

Hi Vamika,
Welcome to this group. Yo'll be able to gain a lot from this group.
Regards,


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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of akshun mahajan
Sent: 10 December 2016 13:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Introductry e-mail

welcome to the group,.

On 12/10/16, pavithra.mol...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi this is pavithra welcome vamika to the group u will have a great time
in
> this group learning new things.
> Thank you
> Pavithra
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 10-Dec-2016, at 12:04 AM, Vamika Sharma 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Respected members of access India's family!
>>
>> My name is Vamika Sharma, I am a very new member of this family.
>>
>> I am studying in Plus 1 in humanities stream, in a school, which is
>> under C B S C. I am a total blind person, a late blind as well. And am
>> studding in a main stream school, the first physically challenged
>> student of the school. As I am studying in a normal school with all
>> normal students. I never feels that I am a special person rather I
>> always feels that I am one of them only.
>>
>> I have subscribed to this particular mailing list with an aim to
>> increase my knowledge and information regarding various social and
>> technological issues and updates. I have listened about this mailing
>> list from Radio udaan. I am from Pathankot, a district of Punjab.
>>
>> I hope that I would be able to enrich by knowledge and wisdom from the
>> respected members of Access India's family.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vamika Sharma
>>
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