Re: [AI] CCPD issues range of directions to Ola Cabs paving the way for disability inclusive behavior by cab aggregators

[DINESH THOLE]

Dear amar
This is indeed a greate achievement
All the best
Thanks and regards
Dinesh thole

On Sat, 18 May, 2024, 11:35 am Prerna Sobti,  wrote:

> congratulations Amar and news team. I am confident. This is just the
> beginning in many more achievements. Keep up the good work
>
> Prerna Sobti
>
> On May 18, 2024, at 11:17 AM, Misbah  wrote:
>
> Many congratulations to amar and his team for this favourable and
> significant judgement. Ola should comply with it or their legal compliance
> and commercial games.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18 May 2024, at 10:49 AM, Misbah  wrote:
>
> Ccpd directions/orders are recommendatory in the nature. parties may
> comply to obey its moral authority, or they may choose to not to comply at
> all. according to. RPD act ccpd has to submit a comprehensive report on
> annual basis at the floor of the Parliament. This is a near lip service.
> Sorry to say no one in Parliament  take notice of it.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 17 May 2024, at 5:51 PM, Cauvery Krishna 
> wrote:
>
> 
> This is the issue of you lawyers.
>
> On Fri, 17 May 2024, 17:46 Amar Jain,  wrote:
>
>> I think I typed quite simple language. Can someone simplify this further?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 17 May 2024, at 5:43 PM, Cauvery Krishna 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi Amar, can you not type in a simple language which can be understood by
>> non lawyers as well. I am sorry for writing this. I cannot call you as I am
>> at my work place.
>>
>> On Fri, 17 May 2024, 17:35 Amar Jain,  wrote:
>>
>>> Call me up-9892622230.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 17 May 2024, at 4:56 PM, Cauvery Krishna 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I am sorry Amar but  could you please answer my questions in a simple
>>> language.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 17 May 2024, 16:49 Amar Jain,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On this there could be different legal opinions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My opinion is as follows:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Unless CCPD issues recommendations under Section 75B to government
>>>> authority, then only a government authority has a right to reject such
>>>> recommendations within 90 days by giving reasons for rejection in writing.
>>>> Accordingly, any directions issued under Section 75 read with Section 77
>>>> against every establishment which includes government and private are
>>>> binding as directions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. CCPD does have power to impose fines under Section 89, summon
>>>> officials, demand for production of records, and so on. But till date I am
>>>> not aware of any instance where CCPD would have imposed a fine on anyone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3. CCPD's power to report to parliament is quite broad, but I am not
>>>> aware if they have utilised the power in any specific instance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4. It is up to us to see how to have companies ensure compliance. And
>>>> we will not drop the ball on this one as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Amar Jain
>>>>
>>>> On 17/05/2024 16:16, Cauvery Krishna wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No, how efficient is the reporting to the parliament is? Does any of
>>>> the CCPD body has authority to impose fines? My question comes from how
>>>> easy is it for the companies to get away with it?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2024, 16:11 Amar Jain,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here, there is a state commissioner in every state, and there is the
>>>> Chief Commissioner at the central level.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Parliamentary reporting mechanism is not a right for us, it is a
>>>> prerogative of the CCPD to be used where they feel that despite direction
>>>> if there has been non-compliance in specific instances or even in general.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does this answer your question?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Amar Jain
>>>>
>>>> On 17/05/2024 16:07, Cauvery Krishna wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Amar, could you please explain this in simple words? , Ola Cabs
>>>> has to submit a compliance report in 90 days from the issuance of this
>>>> order, failing which the matter will be reported to the Parliament. I would
>>>> like t

Re: [AI] Accessiblity of mobile banking of Bank of India

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Hi
Bank of India, mobile banking is accessible
Thanks and regards
Dinesh Thole

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> On 16-Feb-2023, at 10:02 AM, anil jain  wrote:
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> Please share your experiences of mobile banking of Bank of India in
> terms of accessibility.
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention 2023

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Hello sirIf available, can we get the recordings of the sessions?Thanks and regardsDinesh TholeSent from my iPhoneOn 07-Jan-2023, at 9:15 AM, Harish Kotian  wrote:

  
  
All
I would like to extend my sincere thanks to all the participants,
  presenters, volunteers  and of course Kanchan who ensured the show
  went impeccably. She gave me solid support in every stage
  organizing this event.  

 Taha and his wonderful team made the convention simply
  memorable.  

Thanks everyone once again.
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Re: [AI] access india convention at purple fest goa2023.

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Dear sirPlease advise if there would be separate counters/arrangements for vegetarian and non-vegetarian foodAs I understand that non-vegetarian food is more prevalent in goa.Also, I have heard that it is difficult to find vegetarian placesPlease adviseThanks and regardsDinesh TholeSent from my iPhoneOn 01-Dec-2022, at 2:40 PM, Taha Haaziq  wrote:hi all, i hope everybody is really fine and totally excited to attend the access india convention at purple fest goa on the 5th january 2023 followed by the purple fest on the 6th, 7th and 8th january 2023.some of the relevant information in this regards is as follows: The access india convention will be one of the pre events at the first of its  kind Purple Fest Goa 2023 and the venue of the same is Manohar parrikar memorial hall,  Sanjay Center for Special Education, Porvorim, Goa. 403521. The venue of the Purple Fest is at the Entertainment Society of Goa, Panjim Goa. 403001. anybody having any  concerns or  clarifications in regards to the registration at the event please contact Mr. Gaurish Nagvenkar at 9325193655. for accommodation related inquiries: DPSC Hospitality at 8411031865, 9699775696, 917222. i hope everybody has registered, if not, please do register at www.scpwd.goa.gov.inalso please follow us on:instagram:https://instagram.com/purplefestgoa?igshid=NTdlMDg3MTY=facebook:https://www.facebook.com/Purple-Fest-Goa-112237568331593/?mibextid=ZbWKwLtwitter:Take a look at Purple Fest Goa (@purplefestgoa): https://twitter.com/purplefestgoa?t=TNbSSjZU0rL-7G0C1elA6w=08linked in:https://www.linkedin.com/in/purple-fest-goawaiting to have everyone in Goa to vitness the Purple Fest Goa 2023.Thanks.-- With Best Regards,RTN. Taha HaaziqGoa Civil Services(2016 Batch).Secretary, Office of the Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities, Government of Goa.https://www.scpwd.goa.gov.in/Mobile:       +91 9970620111Personal E-Mail: tahahaa...@gmail.comOfficial Email: taha.haa...@gov.inlinked in: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taha-haaziq-47293441Twitter: @tahahaaziqFacebook: facebook.com/taha.haaziq



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RE: [AI] Need to learn MAC book and Voiceover

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Dear Sir,

 

Please visit www.applevis.com

This is a great resource for learning mac and other apple products for visually 
challenged persons.

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Siddhant Arora
Sent: 18 May 2021 13:06
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Subject: [AI] Need to learn MAC book and Voiceover

 

Hi Guys

I am looking for some help from the community who can teach me how to operate 
Mac book and Voiceover. It would be a great help if someone can connect me to a 
mac trainer or can share relevant material which can improve self learning.

Looking forward to a positive reply from the community.

With Regards

Siddhant Arora

PH- 762352

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RE: [AI] Rimoving advertisements from Youtube

[Dinesh Thole]

Dear Sir,

 

After fiew seconds while add is playing, there is skip adds option button.

You need to click this button.

Alternatively, you can buy YouTube premium subscription in which you will not 
get any adds while playing any content.

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Shyam M. Sayanekar
Sent: 15 October 2020 15:22
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Subject: [AI] Rimoving advertisements from Youtube

 

Hello expert friends, whenever I try to view any video on Youtube, first appear 
very long advertizements , which are extremely irritating. Please guide so as 
to how to skip these adds. If there are any specific buttons, please guide how 
to reach those buttons. Thanking you, yours, S.M. Sayanekar

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[AI] Request for suggestions regarding accessible/usable induction cook top.

[Dinesh Thole]

Hello Friends,

 

I want to buy accessible/usable induction cooktop which can be used by
totally blind person.

Please suggest particular models which are available in the market that I
can consider.

 

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Dinesh Thole.

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RE: [AI] Accessible expense tracking/money manager app for IPhone

[Dinesh Thole]

Thank you.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Shadab Husain
Sent: 14 September 2020 14:26
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Subject: Re: [AI] Accessible expense tracking/money manager app for IPhone

 

Hi, you can try Spending. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone





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Hello Friends,

 

Please suggest me accessible expense tracking apps available  for IPhone.

I want to enter my regular expense on the app so that I can maintain record of 
my expenses.

While I can maintain an excel sheet for the same, but an app would be more 
handy.

 

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.

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[AI] Accessible expense tracking/money manager app for IPhone

[Dinesh Thole]

Hello Friends,

 

Please suggest me accessible expense tracking apps available  for IPhone.

I want to enter my regular expense on the app so that I can maintain record
of my expenses.

While I can maintain an excel sheet for the same, but an app would be more
handy.

 

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Dinesh Thole.

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RE: [AI] looking for a new phone need suggestions.

[Dinesh Thole]

Hi,

If updates and stock android is priority for you, then 1 plus is the best 
option.
Other brands don't provide quick updates.
Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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Sent: 28 July 2020 20:22
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Subject: [AI] looking for a new phone need suggestions.

hi all.
i am looking for a new phone to replace oneplus 6t.
i can go for the oneplus nord as i like oxygen os.
i also like stock android with no bloteware.
so what are my options?
does any1 use any phone with the samsung 1 ui version 2?
are there any accessibility problems?
lets say i go for the samsung m series or a series how are the updates going to 
be?
i would like a phone which will get updates for minimum 2 years.
preferability is 3 years.
what about realme?
is their ui accessible?
are there any adds or blotware?
sorry for a long email.
please recommend.

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Re: [AI] Notification from IRDA regarding health insurance for person with disability

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Hi,

Please do a google search with a key word "Guidelines on standardization of 
exclusions in HI Contracts"
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
 ?? Akash Gupta
Sent: 01 May 2020 15:48
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] Notification from IRDA regarding health insurance for person with 
disability

Dear friends,

Please share Notification from IRDA regarding health insurance for person with 
disability issued in last year.

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सधन्यवाद / With Regards,
आकाश गुप्ता / Akash Gupta



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Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People with Disability

[Dinesh thole]

Thanks Rahul.
The link which you have provided is working.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rahul Gambhir
Sent: 29 April 2020 11:43
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People 
with Disability

I just tried, the link is working, please try again, sharing the link below;

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1P4zm4yvaFwzaSfz9_aQ-DjS2RZky4CeIMOQPf56p9Fo/edit

Sent from my iPhone
Thanks
Rahul Gambhir
Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com

On 29-Apr-2020, at 11:29 AM, Dinesh thole  wrote:

Hello Sir,

Could you please reshare the link on which we can provide our details?
The link in the trail mails is not opening.
Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Harish Kumar P Kotian
Sent: 28 April 2020 16:16
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People 
with Disability

Hi
It is reasonable accessible in Android and web. Less accessible on IOS.
Harish


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)
Sent: 28 अप्रैल 2020 11:15
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People 
with Disability

Hi Harish,
Is it accessible ap? or did you rely on sighted assistance?
Thanks and please advise.
asif

> On 4/28/20, Harish Kumar P Kotian  wrote:
> Hi
> I  hope you have installed the app with the same number you have 
> filled in the online form.
> I did get a call from them and afterconfirming my registration 
> details, They did tell me the time when delivery slots would open. In 
> the meantime I had already added to cart the items I required and also 
> put enough money in the Bigbasket wallet.
> However, when I tried to grab a delivery slot, it was gone. Later on 
> the Bigbasket representative called me again I informed that I could 
> not get any delivery slot. She did the needful and made a slot available from 
> her end.
> I shall get my delivery today noon. If it was not for the priority 
> effort, I would again fail yesterday.
> The system works for sure for us.
> Harish.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Suna
> Sent: 27 अप्रैल 2020 20:38
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for 
> People with Disability
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Has anybody succeeded in getting preferential delivery from Bigbasket?
> I had submitted the form but did not get any call from their customer service.
> When I called up the customer service, they told me they do not have 
> any policy of preferential delivery to persons with disability/senior 
> citizens.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Blind Graduates' Forum of India" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:50 PM
> Subject: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for 
> People with Disability
> 
> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> Facing challenges to buy your groceries due to lock down? Utilize the 
>> preferential delivery service introduced by BigBasket for people with 
>> disabilities. Blind Graduates Forum of India reached out to BigBasket 
>> requesting provisions for customers with disabilities to manage the 
>> challenges due to lock down and they wholeheartedly worked to 
>> customize the experience for PWD. Fill the below form with your 
>> details and a Big Basket representative will call to receive your 
>> order. The payment to be done online through the app using available 
>> modes like UPI and so on.  Click on the below link to place the order:
>> 
>> https://docs.google.noclick_noclick_com/forms/d/1P4zm4yvaFwzaSfz9_aQ-
>> DjS2RZky4CeIMOQPf56p9Fo/edit
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> Alternate Phone: 9892145699
>> www.bgfi.noclick_noclick_in
>> 
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Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People with Disability

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Sir,

Could you please reshare the link on which we can provide our details?
The link in the trail mails is not opening.
Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Harish Kumar P Kotian
Sent: 28 April 2020 16:16
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People 
with Disability

Hi
It is reasonable accessible in Android and web. Less accessible on IOS.
Harish


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)
Sent: 28 अप्रैल 2020 11:15
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People 
with Disability

Hi Harish,
Is it accessible ap? or did you rely on sighted assistance?
Thanks and please advise.
asif

On 4/28/20, Harish Kumar P Kotian  wrote:
> Hi
> I  hope you have installed the app with the same number you have 
> filled in the online form.
> I did get a call from them and afterconfirming my registration 
> details, They did tell me the time when delivery slots would open. In 
> the meantime I had already added to cart the items I required and also 
> put enough money in the Bigbasket wallet.
> However, when I tried to grab a delivery slot, it was gone. Later on 
> the Bigbasket representative called me again I informed that I could 
> not get any delivery slot. She did the needful and made a slot available from 
> her end.
> I shall get my delivery today noon. If it was not for the priority 
> effort, I would again fail yesterday.
> The system works for sure for us.
> Harish.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Suna
> Sent: 27 अप्रैल 2020 20:38
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for 
> People with Disability
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anybody succeeded in getting preferential delivery from Bigbasket?
> I had submitted the form but did not get any call from their customer service.
> When I called up the customer service, they told me they do not have 
> any policy of preferential delivery to persons with disability/senior 
> citizens.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Blind Graduates' Forum of India" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:50 PM
> Subject: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for 
> People with Disability
>
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Facing challenges to buy your groceries due to lock down? Utilize the 
>> preferential delivery service introduced by BigBasket for people with 
>> disabilities. Blind Graduates Forum of India reached out to BigBasket 
>> requesting provisions for customers with disabilities to manage the 
>> challenges due to lock down and they wholeheartedly worked to 
>> customize the experience for PWD. Fill the below form with your 
>> details and a Big Basket representative will call to receive your 
>> order. The payment to be done online through the app using available 
>> modes like UPI and so on.  Click on the below link to place the order:
>>
>> https://docs.google.noclick_noclick_com/forms/d/1P4zm4yvaFwzaSfz9_aQ-
>> DjS2RZky4CeIMOQPf56p9Fo/edit
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Blind Graduates Forum of India.
>> Alternate Phone: 9892145699
>> www.bgfi.noclick_noclick_in
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Recordings of NAB Delhi online classes & webinars on Sugamya Pustakalaya

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Prashant Sir,

Many many thanks to you and NAB delhi for your commendable efforts for
organising such valuable webinars and classes for us in such a sistamatic
manner, and also for uploading the recordings.
Also, many thanks to all our expart friends/guest speakers  who have been
sharing their valuable knowledge with us through these webinars.
These webinars are really enhancing our knowledge in so many aspects.
Thanks once again.

Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KONGALETI SATYANARAYANA
Sent: 28 April 2020 14:08
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Recordings of NAB Delhi online classes & webinars on
Sugamya Pustakalaya

you have conducted the webinor related to the excel  Outlook and Google
drive all these things but you didn't upload will you upload them if yes
please upload let us know

On Tue 28 Apr, 2020, 10:00 AM Prashant Ranjan Verma, 
wrote:

> NAB Delhi is uploading recordings of various online classes and 
> webinars such as Financial Accessibility, Financial Planning, Legal 
> Rights, Microsoft PowerPoint Basics, Microsoft Word formatting etc. on 
> Sugamya Pustakalaya.
> As
> more classes are conducted, more recordings will be uploaded.
>
>
>
> Please visit Sugamya Pustakalaya and search by typing either NAB Delhi 
> online or NAB Delhi webinar to get these recordings. You can also 
> check the Latest arrivals section.
>
> If you are not a Sugamya Pustakalaya member or if you have any 
> difficulty in downloading or reading, please call the Helpline numbers 
> 9212319672,
> 8826261166
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Re: [AI] windows 10 laptop

[Dinesh thole]

Hi Mohit,

I3 will be more than enough for your usage.
Yes you will be able to use all applications like jaws, Kurzweil on windows
10 64 bit.
I would suggest you to go for a laptop with I3 along with 8 GB ram.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohit Gupta
Sent: 27 April 2020 16:18
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] windows 10 laptop

Thanks for valuable suggestions.
I will use it for academic purpose like FS reader, EText reading, ABBYY fine
reader, kurz wel, internet, audio video playing etc. So which will be
sufficient I3 or 5 or 7.
In 64 Bit, whether I will get jaws, fine reader and other assistive tools
easily?

On 4/27/20, Dinesh thole  wrote:
> Hi Mohit,
>
> The type of configuration which you would want to buy depends on your 
> purpose/usage for which you require the laptop and also on your budget.
> Fiew months back, I have purchased: HP Laptop 14q-cs0xxx which has 256 
> GB SSD and 8 GB ram and comes with windows 10 home and intel core I3 7 
> gen processor.
> I purchased this for around 32000 from amazon.
> This is a Lightweight laptop.
> Thanks and Regards.
> Dinesh Thole.
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Mohit Gupta
> Sent: 26 April 2020 11:08
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: [AI] windows 10 laptop
>
> Dear friends,
>
> I want to buy a laptop with windows 10. Please suggest me-
> 1) whether any version of windows 10 has to be choose.
> 2) 64 bit or 32 bit is better for us.
> 3) any company suggestion.
> 4) any specific specifications useful for  us as a assistive 
> technology users.
>
>
> --
> Thanks and Regards,
> Mohit Gupta.
> Rajasthan.
>
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Re: [AI] issue regarding unwanted trafic error while doing google search.

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

The issue which I had mentioned in the trail mail have been resolved.
Actually, I did a factory reset of my router and then reconfigured the same.
Post that issue is resolved as now a new IP address has automatically got
assigned on the router.

Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
-Original Message-
From: Dinesh thole [mailto:dineshth...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 23 April 2020 14:18
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: RE: [AI] issue regarding unwanted trafic error while doing google
search.

Hi Pramod.
I have tried with most of the options suggested by you, but still no luck.
I will however reset my router and reconfigure and see how it goes and will
keep you posted.
Thanks.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of PRAMIT BHARGAVA
Sent: 23 April 2020 12:15
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] issue regarding unwanted trafic error while doing google
search.

Hello Dinesh,

Mentioning below few methods to rectify your problem:

Initially check for malware on your computer.
Also check if there is no VPN being used.
If you have installed any extension in the past few days remove them also.
Reset your router and reset your browser too.
Then restart your computer and check if there is any Windows update
available.

Hope this helps

Pramit

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:06 PM Dinesh thole  wrote:

> Hello Friends,
>
>
>
> Since last 2 days, I am constantly getting below error while doing 
> google search through firefox, internet explorer, chrome.
>
> "Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network. 
> This page checks to see if it's really you sending the requests, and 
> not a robot."
>
> It then gives capcha for solving, but even there it says try later.
>
> I have tried the online suggested work arounds like browser reset, pc 
> scan, temp file cleaning,  pc restart, router restart etc, but no luck.
>
> Please suggest on resolving this issue.
>
>
>
> Thanks and Regards.
>
> Dinesh Thole.
>
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Re: [AI] windows 10 laptop

[Dinesh thole]

Hi Mohit,

The type of configuration which you would want to buy depends on your
purpose/usage for which you require the laptop and also on your budget.
Fiew months back, I have purchased: HP Laptop 14q-cs0xxx which has 256 GB
SSD and 8 GB ram and comes with windows 10 home and intel core I3 7 gen
processor.
I purchased this for around 32000 from amazon.
This is a Lightweight laptop.
Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohit Gupta
Sent: 26 April 2020 11:08
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: [AI] windows 10 laptop

Dear friends,

I want to buy a laptop with windows 10. Please suggest me-
1) whether any version of windows 10 has to be choose.
2) 64 bit or 32 bit is better for us.
3) any company suggestion.
4) any specific specifications useful for  us as a assistive technology
users.


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Mohit Gupta.
Rajasthan.




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[AI] Request for recordings of the session on financial management

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

 

In case if the recordings of the session on financial management are
available, please share the same.

Prashant Sir, please update.

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.




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Re: [AI] suggestion for accessible app for business and stock market news on IPhone.

[Dinesh thole]

Thank you Rahul.

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market news on IPhone.

You may also try Business standard, its fairly accessible on IOS.

Thanks
Rahul

On 4/22/20, Dinesh thole  wrote:
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [AI] issue regarding unwanted trafic error while doing google search.

[Dinesh thole]

Hi Pramod.
I have tried with most of the options suggested by you, but still no luck.
I will however reset my router and reconfigure and see how it goes and will
keep you posted.
Thanks.

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Subject: Re: [AI] issue regarding unwanted trafic error while doing google
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Hello Dinesh,

Mentioning below few methods to rectify your problem:

Initially check for malware on your computer.
Also check if there is no VPN being used.
If you have installed any extension in the past few days remove them also.
Reset your router and reset your browser too.
Then restart your computer and check if there is any Windows update
available.

Hope this helps

Pramit

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:06 PM Dinesh thole  wrote:

> Hello Friends,
>
>
>
> Since last 2 days, I am constantly getting below error while doing 
> google search through firefox, internet explorer, chrome.
>
> "Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network. 
> This page checks to see if it's really you sending the requests, and 
> not a robot."
>
> It then gives capcha for solving, but even there it says try later.
>
> I have tried the online suggested work arounds like browser reset, pc 
> scan, temp file cleaning,  pc restart, router restart etc, but no luck.
>
> Please suggest on resolving this issue.
>
>
>
> Thanks and Regards.
>
> Dinesh Thole.
>
>
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Re: [AI] suggestion for accessible app for business and stock market news on IPhone.

[Dinesh thole]

Thank you so much dear.
Could you please share the link of this app, actually, this is not showing in 
the app store.

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Radha thunder storm
Sent: 22 April 2020 21:30
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disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] suggestion for accessible app for business and stock market 
news on IPhone.

Ok Dinesh

Never mind u are new. We all learn each day n stock market is one field where 
we learn all day.
Just explore it. U get many source of info. I take trade on shares based on the 
long buildup for it in a specific stock. Same way when short covering or long 
unwinding there, I either long or short to find quick bugs. 
Many jargon? Then it’s tough explaining  over email. Perhaps I’m sharing my 
knowledge with one of my best brother here. If he succeeds then I will share 
with u all. Of course, we both are 100% impaired. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 22-Apr-2020, at 6:04 PM, Dinesh thole  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What is this app exactly for?
> I am new in stock market and trading, and don't know about options as yet.
> Thanks and Regards.
> Dinesh Thole.
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Radha thunder storm
> Sent: 22 April 2020 17:11
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] suggestion for accessible app for business and stock market 
> news on IPhone.
> 
> Try Quamtsapp though used from Basic to Pro.
> I use to select strike  for both shares n options as per OI buildup. 
> Exclusively used for Greeks n to find IV. Implied volatility.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 22-Apr-2020, at 1:25 PM, Dinesh thole  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you so much dear.
>> Do we have the option of trying lire before buying?
>> 
>> Thanks and Regards.
>> Dinesh Thole.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of Maruti Paramwad
>> Sent: 22 April 2020 11:54
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] suggestion for accessible app for business and 
>> stock market news on IPhone.
>> 
>> Hello sir,
>> 
>> Greetings!
>> try the Hindu app on IOS. the app is very much accessible. one more 
>> think, you can try Lire app witch is a Rss reader.
>> 
>>>> On 4/22/20, Dinesh thole  wrote:
>>> Dear Friends,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please suggest me accessible app for business news and stock market 
>>> news on IPhone.
>>> 
>>> I have tried apps like moneycontrol, economic times,  but they are 
>>> not that accessible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks and Regards.
>>> 
>>> Dinesh Thole.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [AI] suggestion for accessible app for business and stock market news on IPhone.

[Dinesh thole]

Hi,

What is this app exactly for?
I am new in stock market and trading, and don't know about options as yet.
Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Radha thunder storm
Sent: 22 April 2020 17:11
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disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] suggestion for accessible app for business and stock market 
news on IPhone.

Try Quamtsapp though used from Basic to Pro.
I use to select strike  for both shares n options as per OI buildup. 
Exclusively used for Greeks n to find IV. Implied volatility.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 22-Apr-2020, at 1:25 PM, Dinesh thole  wrote:
> 
> Thank you so much dear.
> Do we have the option of trying lire before buying?
> 
> Thanks and Regards.
> Dinesh Thole.
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> Behalf Of Maruti Paramwad
> Sent: 22 April 2020 11:54
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> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] suggestion for accessible app for business and stock 
> market news on IPhone.
> 
> Hello sir,
> 
> Greetings!
> try the Hindu app on IOS. the app is very much accessible. one more 
> think, you can try Lire app witch is a Rss reader.
> 
>> On 4/22/20, Dinesh thole  wrote:
>> Dear Friends,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please suggest me accessible app for business news and stock market 
>> news on IPhone.
>> 
>> I have tried apps like moneycontrol, economic times,  but they are 
>> not that accessible.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks and Regards.
>> 
>> Dinesh Thole.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[AI] issue regarding unwanted trafic error while doing google search.

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

 

Since last 2 days, I am constantly getting below error while doing google
search through firefox, internet explorer, chrome.

"Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network. This
page checks to see if it's really you sending the requests, and not a
robot."

It then gives capcha for solving, but even there it says try later.

I have tried the online suggested work arounds like browser reset, pc scan,
temp file cleaning,  pc restart, router restart etc, but no luck.

Please suggest on resolving this issue.

 

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.




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Re: [AI] suggestion for accessible app for business and stock market news on IPhone.

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Thank you so much dear.
Do we have the option of trying lire before buying?

Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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Sent: 22 April 2020 11:54
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Subject: Re: [AI] suggestion for accessible app for business and stock
market news on IPhone.

Hello sir,

Greetings!
try the Hindu app on IOS. the app is very much accessible. one more think,
you can try Lire app witch is a Rss reader.

On 4/22/20, Dinesh thole  wrote:
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>
>
>
> Please suggest me accessible app for business news and stock market 
> news on IPhone.
>
> I have tried apps like moneycontrol, economic times,  but they are not 
> that accessible.
>
>
>
> Thanks and Regards.
>
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[AI] suggestion for accessible app for business and stock market news on IPhone.

[Dinesh thole]

Dear Friends,

 

Please suggest me accessible app for business news and stock market news on
IPhone.

I have tried apps like moneycontrol, economic times,  but they are not that
accessible.

 

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.




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Re: [AI] user reviews for samsung M30S or M31 android phones.

[Dinesh thole]

Thanks dear.
How is the sound quality of phone?


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Sent: 21 April 2020 14:02
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Subject: Re: [AI] user reviews for samsung M30S or M31 android phones.

Using M30 phone. Good phone. You have to install Google tts and keyboard if
you are uncomfortable with Samsung tts and keyboard.

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020, 11:39 am Dinesh thole,  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I am planning to buy a new android phone under RS 15000 post lockdown.
>
> I want good sound quality with decent processor and battery. Camera is 
> not a priority.
>
> Based on my online search, I was thinking for Samsung m31 or moto G 8+ 
> as moto has dual stereo speakers.
>
> In case those who are using samsung M30S or M31 android phones, can 
> you please share their reviews?
>
> How is the accessibility of the New Samsung UI 2.0?
>
> Are Samsung phones having a lot of bloatware?
>
> Is there any other stock android phone I should consider?
>
> Please share your valuable inputs.
>
>
>
> Thanks and Regards.
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[AI] user reviews for samsung M30S or M31 android phones.

[Dinesh thole]

Hi all,

 

I am planning to buy a new android phone under RS 15000 post lockdown.

I want good sound quality with decent processor and battery. Camera is not a
priority.

Based on my online search, I was thinking for Samsung m31 or moto G 8+ as
moto has dual stereo speakers.

In case those who are using samsung M30S or M31 android phones, can you
please share their reviews?

How is the accessibility of the New Samsung UI 2.0?

Are Samsung phones having a lot of bloatware?

Is there any other stock android phone I should consider?

Please share your valuable inputs.

 

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Re: [AI] Webinar on Financial Planning for Visually Impaired - 18 April 2020 at 10.45 am

[Dinesh thole]

No problem dear.
Thank you very much.
Eager to listen to the recordings.

Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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From: Ishant [mailto:ishantrajpu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 18 April 2020 13:16
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disabled.; Dinesh thole
Subject: Re: [AI] Webinar on Financial Planning for Visually Impaired - 18 
April 2020 at 10.45 am

Apologies to you sir, as i went on to join the webinar and didn't checked your 
mail. however you will get the recording and NAB will upload all there webinar 
recordings on Sugamaya Pustakalaya.

On 4/18/2020 10:32 AM, Dinesh thole wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I had registered on 15th April.
> So could it be that I have not been selected as the participant for 
> the session?
> If allowed, can you share the meeting link?
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> Sent: 18 April 2020 10:26
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> Subject: Re: [AI] Webinar on Financial Planning for Visually Impaired 
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> Yes I have received it.
>
> On Sat, 18 Apr, 2020, 10:23 am Dinesh thole,  wrote:
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Re: [AI] Webinar on Financial Planning for Visually Impaired - 18 April 2020 at 10.45 am

[Dinesh thole]

Hi,

I had registered on 15th April.
So could it be that I have not been selected as the participant for the
session?
If allowed, can you share the meeting link?
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April 2020 at 10.45 am

Yes I have received it.

On Sat, 18 Apr, 2020, 10:23 am Dinesh thole,  wrote:

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[AI] Webinar on Financial Planning for Visually Impaired - 18 April 2020 at 10.45 am

[Dinesh thole]

Hi All,

 

Those who have registered for captioned session, has anyone received meeting
joining link/ID on registered email?

Please let me know.

 

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.




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Re: [AI] Issues regarding Zerodha traiding kite app accessibility on IPhone.

[Dinesh thole]

Hi,

Currently, I don't have account opened with upstox.
As I am new to trading, I have just recently opened account with zerodha.
I will write to zerodha and see if they can make the app accessible for us.
Their web platform has good accessibility.

Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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Radha thunder storm
Sent: 16 April 2020 06:32
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disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Issues regarding Zerodha traiding kite app accessibility on 
IPhone.

Completely accessible Upstox app both in IOS  N in Android.
I use all segments from Equities, FnO, currency and Commodities[long and short 
sell]independently.
I would like to connect with any technical analyst who are legally blind.
Thanks


Sent from my iPhone

> On 15-Apr-2020, at 8:15 PM, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> 
> I also use the same app, in android swiping with couple of fingers 
> does the task for me while buying. Removing an item from watch list is 
> difficult as you have unlabeled buttons but adding is still a bit 
> easier as you have to manage only one button . Overall, although it is 
> manageable but can't be called accessible at all.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ajay
> 
>> On 15/04/2020, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm successfully using the app fofr cash buy, but only helped 
>> required at teh buy swipe. Rest everything is accessible.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4/15/20, Dinesh thole  wrote:
>>> Hello Friends,
>>> 
>>> I am using IPhone 10 R with IOS 13.4.
>>> 
>>> I am a beginner to stock markets and trading, and I have just opened 
>>> my account with zerodha.
>>> 
>>> I am unable to buy shares through the Kite app on IPhone.
>>> 
>>> After clicking on the buy option for a particular stock, I am not 
>>> able to specify the quantity and the order type, nothing happens 
>>> even after clicking those options.
>>> 
>>> Also, some times the app is also crashing.
>>> 
>>> I am not sure if there is any issue with latest version of Kite.
>>> 
>>> So those who are using zerodha's Kite app on IPhone, please guide.
>>> 
>>> I have no issues on laptop.
>>> 
>>> Thanks and Regards.
>>> 
>>> Dinesh Thole.
>>> 
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Re: [AI] Issues regarding Zerodha traiding kite app accessibility on IPhone.

[Dinesh thole]

Dear Sir,

Are you using the latest version of app on IPhone?
If yes, then after clicking on buy option for particular stock, how do you
change quantity which we want to buy, and how do we select order type?
Adding stocks on watch list is accessible, and no issues there.
Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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Sent: 15 April 2020 18:50
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Subject: Re: [AI] Issues regarding Zerodha traiding kite app accessibility
on IPhone.

Hi,
I'm successfully using the app fofr cash buy, but only helped required at
teh buy swipe. Rest everything is accessible.



On 4/15/20, Dinesh thole  wrote:
> Hello Friends,
>
> I am using IPhone 10 R with IOS 13.4.
>
> I am a beginner to stock markets and trading, and I have just opened 
> my account with zerodha.
>
> I am unable to buy shares through the Kite app on IPhone.
>
> After clicking on the buy option for a particular stock, I am not able 
> to specify the quantity and the order type, nothing happens even after 
> clicking those options.
>
> Also, some times the app is also crashing.
>
> I am not sure if there is any issue with latest version of Kite.
>
> So those who are using zerodha's Kite app on IPhone, please guide.
>
> I have no issues on laptop.
>
> Thanks and Regards.
>
> Dinesh Thole.
>
>
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Re: [AI] Issues regarding Zerodha traiding kite app accessibility on IPhone.

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Sir,

Have you also used on IPhone?
Actually, I don't have android phone.
Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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Sent: 15 April 2020 20:12
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Subject: Re: [AI] Issues regarding Zerodha traiding kite app accessibility
on IPhone.

I also use the same app, in android swiping with couple of fingers does the
task for me while buying. Removing an item from watch list is difficult as
you have unlabeled buttons but adding is still a bit easier as you have to
manage only one button . Overall, although it is manageable but can't be
called accessible at all.

Cheers,
Ajay

On 15/04/2020, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm successfully using the app fofr cash buy, but only helped required 
> at teh buy swipe. Rest everything is accessible.
>
>
>
> On 4/15/20, Dinesh thole  wrote:
>> Hello Friends,
>>
>> I am using IPhone 10 R with IOS 13.4.
>>
>> I am a beginner to stock markets and trading, and I have just opened 
>> my account with zerodha.
>>
>> I am unable to buy shares through the Kite app on IPhone.
>>
>> After clicking on the buy option for a particular stock, I am not 
>> able to specify the quantity and the order type, nothing happens even 
>> after clicking those options.
>>
>> Also, some times the app is also crashing.
>>
>> I am not sure if there is any issue with latest version of Kite.
>>
>> So those who are using zerodha's Kite app on IPhone, please guide.
>>
>> I have no issues on laptop.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards.
>>
>> Dinesh Thole.
>>
>>
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[AI] Issues regarding Zerodha traiding kite app accessibility on IPhone.

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

I am using IPhone 10 R with IOS 13.4.

I am a beginner to stock markets and trading, and I have just opened my
account with zerodha.

I am unable to buy shares through the Kite app on IPhone.

After clicking on the buy option for a particular stock, I am not able to
specify the quantity and the order type, nothing happens even after clicking
those options.

Also, some times the app is also crashing.

I am not sure if there is any issue with latest version of Kite.

So those who are using zerodha's Kite app on IPhone, please guide.

I have no issues on laptop.

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.




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Re: [AI] Mediclaim policy from Star Health

[Dinesh thole]

Dear Sameer Sir,

I had posted a message mentioning that star health has refused to provide
policy for the sum ensured of RS 10 lacs.
They were ready to give policy only for a maximum of RS 5 lacs.
I had approached them for star health comprehensive family health policy.

Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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Of Sameer
Sent: 10 April 2020 20:15
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Mediclaim policy from Star Health


Dear List Friends, 

A few days ago, some members had posted on this list about mediclaim
policies issued to them by Star Health. Regarding these policies, kindly
provide the following details so that  I can approach my local Star Health
agent for issue of a similar policy.

1. Name of the policy
2. Insured Amount
3. Premium paid
4. Month in which this policy was issued.

Thanking you all in advance for any & all assistance.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India



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Re: [AI] denial of health insurance by star health and HDFC ERGO on the grounds of vision impairment.

[Dinesh thole]

Dear Sir,

Are you talking about Apollo munich?
Now Apollo is HDFC ergo.
Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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Sent: 03 April 2020 23:52
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Subject: Re: [AI] denial of health insurance by star health and HDFC ERGO on
the grounds of vision impairment.

Dear Dinesh  and Silpa

I had also faced the same kind of situation and was denied by ICICI, HDFC,
STAR and National Insurance. Apollo gave me the policy. We can talk it over
a phone call. Please call me if you want to have it from apollo.

thanks

Nirmal

7007869291

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 19:30, Silpa Mallipeddi 
wrote:

> I am having health insurance already as I am working in MNC.when I 
> requested for increase of HI ,united India refused.Also enquired 
> whether I can continue HI once I leave the MNC,they said ..NO.even though
I am having
> HI for the past 10 years.   Can it be helped.
>
> On Fri 3 Apr, 2020, 5:10 PM Dinesh thole,  wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope you all are doing good.
> >
> > Insurance companies are still discriminating for providing health
> insurance
> > to visually challenged.
> >
> > Recently I approached star health and HDFC ergo for buying online 
> > health family health insurance for me and my wife(Both 100% visually
> challenged) .
> >
> > I clearly told both the companies regarding our vision impairment in 
> > a transparent manner.
> >
> > HDFC ergo team refused to provide on the grounds of disability.
> >
> > They said over phone that  medical underwriting team has refused the
> same.
> >
> > On the other hand, star health is willing to provide cover only 
> > maximum upto
> > 5 lacs where as I had requested for 10 lacs, again as per their 
> > medical underwriting team.
> >
> > However, all this conversation is over phone, and as usual, both the 
> > companies have not given anything in writing even after my request.
> >
> > I also gave them reference of the recent circular on Guidelines on 
> > standardization of exclusions in HI Contracts given by IRDA, but no
luck.
> >
> > Both the companies policy terms are not having any such clauses in 
> > the exclusions list for refusing insurance for visually challenged.
> >
> > Please advise as to whom should I approach?
> >
> > Please share your advise for purchase of health insurance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks and Regards.
> >
> > Dinesh Thole
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[AI] denial of health insurance by star health and HDFC ERGO on the grounds of vision impairment.

[Dinesh thole]

Hi All,

 

Hope you all are doing good.

Insurance companies are still discriminating for providing health insurance
to visually challenged.

Recently I approached star health and HDFC ergo for buying online health
family health insurance for me and my wife(Both 100% visually challenged) .

I clearly told both the companies regarding our vision impairment in a
transparent manner.

HDFC ergo team refused to provide on the grounds of disability.

They said over phone that  medical underwriting team has refused the same.

On the other hand, star health is willing to provide cover only maximum upto
5 lacs where as I had requested for 10 lacs, again as per their medical
underwriting team.

However, all this conversation is over phone, and as usual, both the
companies have not given anything in writing even after my request.

I also gave them reference of the recent circular on Guidelines on
standardization of exclusions in HI Contracts given by IRDA, but no luck.

Both the companies policy terms are not having any such clauses in the
exclusions list for refusing insurance for visually challenged.

Please advise as to whom should I approach?

Please share your advise for purchase of health insurance.

 

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole




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Re: [AI] ms outlook

[Dinesh thole]

Hi Hitesh,  

I was also facing same issue fiew days back.
For resolving this issue, please turn on less secure app access under gmail
account settings.
You will find this in gmail's settings under account and then there is link
for changing security settings.
Once you change this setting, please configure outlook through automatic
mode where you only need to provide your gmail id and password and then
account get's configured as IMAP.

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Dinesh Thole.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Hitesh Thakkar
Sent: 01 April 2020 12:51
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: [AI] ms outlook

dear all,
i want to configure my gmail account in ms outlook2010 in my del laptop with
windows8.
after setup everything when i open outlook it asks for password number of
times, even after entering correct password it doesn't proceed further.
kindly help me in this regard.

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regards
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[AI] Accessibility of Jio mobile handset

[Dinesh Saraiya]

Can anyone using Jio phone(rupees 699/-), let me know about the
accessibility of it.



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[AI] Suggestion for buying laptop under rs 35000

[DINESH THOLE]

Hello friends
Please suggest me laptop for around rs 35000.
It should be light weight with 13 inch screen.
128 or 256 gb SSD
Core i 3 7th gen or higher processor
Please advise
Thanks and regards
Dinesh thole

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[AI] Not recieving access india mails.

[DINESH THOLE]

Respected moderator,
I am not receiving any mails from access india members.
I am only receiving mails sent by the moderator.
I have also checked my settings on the access india page, and they are
set properly to receive indivisual mails.
Please advise.

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Re: [AI] Does parenting change with changing eyesight? - Guest column by Vineet Saraiwala

[DINESH SINGH Kharola]

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On 6/17/19, Ramya Venkitesh  wrote:
> Our guest columnist this week, Vineet Saraiwala, who leads inclusion at Big
> Bazaar and is an avid marathoner, talks about the valuable role his father
> has played in shaping his journey
>
> In most Indian families, fathers' play the role in the background and
> prefer
> working silently as compared to the mothers'. They don't demonstrate
> emotions and are usually away at work so it is natural they spend less time
> with their children. They support the family monetarily while the mother
> complements the family emotionally.
>
> I have Retinitis Pigmentosa in which the clock keeps on ticking and your
> vision keeps on dipping. While most of the traits in our relationship have
> been stable, one of the characteristics - PROTECTIVENESS - has taken a full
> circle.
>
> Imagine time on the X-axis and protectiveness on the Y-axis with the curve
> like a mountain. It started with being extremely unprotective at the
> beginning to reaching the zenith of protectiveness with gradual
> deterioration and finally back to the same stage of being free. For my
> brother and I, vision was the decreasing variable with the passage of time.
> He is currently proud of us and even gives his approval when it comes to
> risky avenues like trekking and ultra-cycling. it's a story of courage,
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[AI] रिक्वेस्ट टू अन सब्सक्राइब फ्रॉम द लिस्ट

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Re: [AI] Making education more inclusive for people with blindness: Learning from CFA Institute

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Thanks Turab,

Yes things are improving in India as well. But my main point in this article
is about focusing on technical subjects that require math equations. 

My argument is also not about west vs India, for example, the content that I
got as part of CFA text is also available in BookShare, but the books in
bookshare do not have math ML. Actually, bookshare books only have images in
place of equations. I have asked bookshare about it, they say that they will
do it, but the timing is not clear.

This is the saddest part when material is available in math ML in one place
but it is not available in another place which is supposed to have it. I am
quite happy with bookshare regarding availability of books for non-technical
subjects. As per last count bookshare now has 6.5 lakh books. 

It is high time that we make accessible material available for technical
subjects.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2018 9:45 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Making education more inclusive for people with blindness:
Learning from CFA Institute

Hi Dinesh,
Heartiest congratulations on clearing CFA!
Your piece is well articulated. Agreed that India has a lot to learn from
the West in terms of imparting accessible education for the disabled.
But things are changing in some progressive institutes. I did my Masters in
law from NALSAR Hyderabad. Happy to share that at NALSAR most of the course
material is made available to the VI students in accessible soft copy by the
administration itself and that to without major requests or representations.
Also, could you share the overall experience with a scribe. Process for
appointment, eligibility, coordination during the exam etc.?
Best
Turab


On 9/2/18, George Abraham  wrote:
> Enjoyed reading your piece. Thanks for sharing.
>
> George
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Dinesh Kaushal
> Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2018 8:24 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: [AI] Making education more inclusive for people with blindness:
> Learning from CFA Institute
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I have written an article about my experience with CFA institute's 
> practice regarding the accessibility of course curriculum. I hope our 
> institutes could learn a lot from CFA institute about how an 
> accessible course material empowers people experiencing disabilities.
>
>
>
> We could also learn a lot from CFA institute about conducting exams 
> for people experiencing disabilities. For example, CFA institute asked 
> one of my scribe to fly from Mumbai and made the scribes to stay in a 
> hotel to avoid any delay as exam starts at 6:30 AM. The exam is for 
> nearly 13 hours due to extra time. This is also something our 
> institutes could learn from international experience. All my 
> calculations suggest that CFA institute would have spent more than 
> what they would have charged me for the examination fee. Ajay Manocha 
> is also appearing for the same exam so he can attest what I am 
> suggesting. The following article is about the curriculum only.
>
>
>
>
> Making education more inclusive for people with blindness: Learning 
> from CFA Institute
>
>
>
>
> https://dineshkaushal.blogspot.com/2018/08/making-education-more-inclu
> sive-f
> or.html
>
>
>
> In August 2018, I got the news that I have passed Chartered Financial 
> Analyst (CFA) Level III exam. CFA is a very rigorous program 
> consisting of
> 3
> very intense exams. The content for these exams is heavily 
> quantitative. It could be even more tough for a person with blindness 
> as a blind person has to get the curriculum material converted in a 
> suitable format. But CFA institute made the content accessible by 
> making curriculum available online and equations in math ML format. 
> Yes, you guessed it right, I am a person with blindness myself.
>
>
>
> To understand what I just said, it is important to know some background.
> Technology has made a huge difference for people with blindness. There 
> is a special software that reads out information in computer or mobile
devices.
> This software is known as screen reader. You can see these screen 
> readers in mobile phones as Talkback in Android or Voiceover in 
> iPhone. This technology is somewhat similar to a navigation system 
> that informs the upcoming route.
>
>
>
> Before screen readers, blind persons had to depend on one to one help 
> such as a family member or  friend who would either read the books or 
> 

Re: [AI] Making education more inclusive for people with blindness: Learning from CFA Institute

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Thanks Pranav,

I haven't explored SVG much. Is it possible to understand SVG diagrams in
economics? Is there any audio / video that I can watch to know how SVG is
understandable?

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2018 7:14 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] Making education more inclusive for people with blindness:
Learning from CFA Institute

Dinesh,

1. Congratulations on clearing these exams.
2. The link in your post has wrapped.
3. I hope the CFA institute takes the next step and converts their diagrams
to tagged SVG.

Pranav





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[AI] Making education more inclusive for people with blindness: Learning from CFA Institute

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Dear All,

 

I have written an article about my experience with CFA institute's practice
regarding the accessibility of course curriculum. I hope our institutes
could learn a lot from CFA institute about how an accessible course material
empowers people experiencing disabilities.

 

We could also learn a lot from CFA institute about conducting exams for
people experiencing disabilities. For example, CFA institute asked one of my
scribe to fly from Mumbai and made the scribes to stay in a hotel to avoid
any delay as exam starts at 6:30 AM. The exam is for nearly 13 hours due to
extra time. This is also something our institutes could learn from
international experience. All my calculations suggest that CFA institute
would have spent more than what they would have charged me for the
examination fee. Ajay Manocha is also appearing for the same exam so he can
attest what I am suggesting. The following article is about the curriculum
only.

 


Making education more inclusive for people with blindness: Learning from CFA
Institute


 

https://dineshkaushal.blogspot.com/2018/08/making-education-more-inclusive-f
or.html

 

In August 2018, I got the news that I have passed Chartered Financial
Analyst (CFA) Level III exam. CFA is a very rigorous program consisting of 3
very intense exams. The content for these exams is heavily quantitative. It
could be even more tough for a person with blindness as a blind person has
to get the curriculum material converted in a suitable format. But CFA
institute made the content accessible by making curriculum available online
and equations in math ML format. Yes, you guessed it right, I am a person
with blindness myself.

 

To understand what I just said, it is important to know some background.
Technology has made a huge difference for people with blindness. There is a
special software that reads out information in computer or mobile devices.
This software is known as screen reader. You can see these screen readers in
mobile phones as Talkback in Android or Voiceover in iPhone. This technology
is somewhat similar to a navigation system that informs the upcoming route.

 

Before screen readers, blind persons had to depend on one to one help such
as a family member or  friend who would either read the books or record
them. Some organizations working for people with blindness would record
commonly used material. But such material would be only available for
subjects that are studied widely, that too with great difficulty. Some
organizations would also convert books in Braille, but since this is a
laborious process, only limited books have been available and they are
bulky.

 

Due to modern technology, blind persons can read electronic content, but not
any content. A content has to be made available in a proper format. This
format is known as e-Pub which is becoming more and more popular among
publishers. But just making books available in e-pub may not solve the
problem. For example, Some publishers might put images in the e-pub, but
images are not readable through screen readers. In order to make it
accessible, the material needs to be in plain text or HTML. For technical
subjects that have equations such as mathematics and other math based
subjects (Science, Technology, Engineering, or finance), a standard known as
math ML should be used to specify equations. Math ML can be embedded in
e-pub books.

 

The traditional methods such as recording or Braille books were not
scalable, so very few people could benefit from them. The few lucky once
were those who had support of a family or an organization. But if we make
mainstream course material more accessible just as CFA institute did, we
would be able to make many people with blindness independent. This does not
mean that such material would only be available for someone with a screen
reader only. The same accessible content would be readable through Braille
using a special device known as Braille display which converts print to
Braille instantly without requiring huge infrastructure. People can also use
Braille printer to create Braille books from e-pub books.

 

With earlier methods, I often struggled to get material. Whereas with CFA
material I didn't need any help as content was properly formatted in text,
and  All the equations were also formatted in math ML. The only help I
needed was for understanding diagrams. It was easy to find a solution Even
for this, I could print them and request anyone without any financial
knowledge to trace the diagram with simple board and pen. This would raise
the diagram in reverse and I could understand them. For this, I needed
someone's help only for a percent or 2 of the time.

 

Needless to say, CFA institute has shown a way forward for the empowerment
of persons with disabilities through accessible course material. I wish
other institutes could learn from CFA institute and become more inclusive.




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Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Hi all,

Many of the problems such as finding a suitable writer at the last minute due 
to unsuitability or health issues could be solved if the examination system is 
a bit flexible. Accommodating people with various needs is not easy so 
examining bodies could consider second chance in a few days.

Many international examining bodies allow you to retake the exam if due to 
unavoidable circumstances your exam could not be completed on the set date. 
They also provide religious alternative dates for candidates who cannot appear 
on the set date. I am using religious alternative date as an example of being 
flexible.

Many of you already know, examination bodies such ETS or GMAC also provide 50 
to 100 percent extra time for Toefl/GRE / GMAT.

Unfortunately even GMAT or GRE are not yet accessible via computer though they 
allow the candidates to write the descriptive parts using screen readers. I 
understand that there could be problems regarding diagrams, special symbols 
etc. many of the suggestions put forward are visionary in nature but we need to 
go by what is already available.

These bodies have a lot of discretion about whom they allow as a scribe. It is 
their mandate to provide a suitable scribe, but if you request, they do allow 
your own candidate and they record your session to check for any malpractice. 
Many of Indian examining bodies would say that they do not have resources to 
record sessions. But it is their responsibility to provide support for 
candidates as well as ensure that the integrity of the exam is not compromised.

Additional note: One way to make math related content accessible could be a 
MathML based course material as well as the examination, but that too will not 
solve diagram issues. So in near future we would have to depend on human 
scribes. I think UPSC should establish disability support services similar to 
what Pune University already has. If such a service gets established, UPSC 
could make incremental modifications every year.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 3:56 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines

George,
I think it was used to illustrate the scenario. Well, firstly PhD candidate 
shouldn't be applying to compete for a clerk post. Overall point is if scribe 
qualification is slightly less than what the job is needed should be enough. If 
at all that less qualification is a mandate.

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica


On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:41 PM, George Abraham  wrote:

> Just would like to point out that the caliber of a Ph.D is definitely 
> higher than a 12th passed. Insisting on the Ph.D to use a 11th passed 
> scribe might be a disservice to him. A point to ponder!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Kotian, H P
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 2:44 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
>
> Hi
> If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a 
> clerk for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 
> candidates one a post graduate and another a HSC. The qualification to 
> consider for the job is HSC and not the qualification of the candidate.
> Therefore the qualification for a scribe should not be HSC passed in 
> this case.
>
> I am aware the minimum qualification for clerk is no more HSC. 
> Mentioned it for illustration purpose.
>
> Harish.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Shweta Mishra
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:51 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
>
> hi friends!
> it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with 
> different qualification.
> for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is 
> appearing for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe 
> criteria for both candidates?
> if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it 
> be injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed 
> candidate will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe.
>
> On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh  wrote:
> > Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean 
> > what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the 
> > past I have always looked for graduates.
> >
> > On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> >> Congrats!
> >> Retention of capacity to choose own 

Re: [AI] Narrator as a screen reader come of age

[Dinesh Kaushal]

I agree that training organizations could look at providing some orientation 
about Narrator.

One of my recent experience is illustrative.

My laptop crashed a couple of times due to faulty hard disk and I had to take 
data out of my system. Since my windows was not starting, I could not operate 
my laptop independently. I then found out that windows 10 has a feature known 
as windows to go. Windows to go prepares a flash drive for bootable installer, 
and Using another software I could create a bootable flash drive. Once my 
laptop booted from the flash drive, I could operate my  machine independently 
with the help of narrator. Unfortunately, windows to go has some restrictions 
so one can only install apps that are downloaded from windows store which means 
I could not install NVDA. This problem would be solved once NVDA is available 
from the windows store, but it takes some time and assistance to download 
software from the windows store. On the other hand, starting narrator is only 
pressing a few keystrokes.

If someone has such a bootable drive with them, he or she could operate on any 
computer.

I also agree with having multiple options for screen readers as multiple 
options encourage competition which helps the products to improve.

At the same time, I think narrator still has a long way to go before it could 
become a full time screen reader as mentioned by Prashant.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Shilpi Kapoor
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 3:31 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator as a screen reader come of age

Hi All, 
Great to see this dialogue on screen readers and what do we teach and what do 
we use. 

Here is my two bits and I won't go to the point of saying teach one or another: 
- We need to ensure that students have an early initiation to Screen Readers. 
They should be able to access technology as early as their peers. What we have 
to teach is the concepts of the screen reader! For example, what is a desktop, 
what is a start button, how does it behave, what is a page, how can we use the 
calculator. At that stage, even a Narrator is great as exposure. Let's 
understand that Narrator is getting better. It is already in the operating 
system, it has no additional cost. I honestly believe it is the right step at 
schools. 

- As the needs of the person increase on what they have to do, then the choice 
of screen reader is based on what they want to do with it. If the usage is for 
Excel and at that point NVDA or JAWS is better for their work, that choice 
should be theirs and based on the use case. 

I think instead of worrying of which is the right screen reader, we need to see 
how to make screen readers that important tool early on in students lives. 

After teaching loads of people computers and hiring lots of people with 
disabilities, we need people to be agile in their use of technology. In 
technology, you have to be able to adapt. 

I hear Vasu, when he says reasonable accommodation. But I also know that as 
organizations we decide what technology a person will use. That is the reality. 
You find some people say we use a particular software as an organization, must 
be as simple as Skype for Business and another might say we use Zoom for the 
same purpose of online conferencing. 
We need to be ready to explore different solutions.

Regards
Shilpi



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia  on behalf of 
Srinivasu Chakravarthula 
Reply-To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" 
Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 5:45 AM
To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" 
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator as a screen reader come of age

George,
Here is a link to Keyboard commands of Narrator:

https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fen-in%2Fhelp%2F22806%2Fwindows-10-narrator-keyboard-commands-touch-gestures=02%7C01%7C%7Cd11b340c16cd4c46650108d5d04b9fa4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636643945583505320=8KMYk2LcbBPYLy596is5sF1NCGgfbM8GMBKZtTc%2BEJA%3D=0

Harish, I respectfully disagree to the point if organizations have
restrictions to downloads applications such as NVDA; that's a reasonable
accommodation and organizations cannot deny. Until Narrator comes to a
decent level where we can use on usual applications like excel etc.,  I
would not prefer providing this as an otpion to use at organizations.

Thanks,
Srinivasu

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: 
https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FCSrinivasu%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cd11b340c16cd4c46650108d5d04b9fa4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636643945583505320=ZfKB4wuSCg5nNZEt8UVsUoYgLielR0%2FJ4Qf%2BciG9mjU%3D=0
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[AI] Shortcut key command for adding member to the group in Microsoft office outlook 10

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Re: [AI] Huge setback for disability sector - Javed Abidi, pioneer of India's disability rights movement, passes away

[dinesh gujar]

The news is unbelievable I pray the almighty for the peace of Departed soul
his work remembered forever made family have the capacity to bear the loss

On 4 Mar 2018 9:43 pm, "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" 
wrote:

> Indeed a great loss to disability sector.
>
> My tributes to Shri. Javed are penned here -
> https://www.serveominclusion.com/2018/03/04/pioneer-in-
> disability-sector-shri-javed-abidi-has-passed-away-great-
> loss-for-entire-disability-sector/
> Thanks,
> Vasu
>
> Regards,
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> Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com
>
> Let's create an inclusive web!
>
> Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica
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> On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Ramya Venkitesh 
> wrote:
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> >
> > Very sad news for the disability sector: Javed Abidi, pioneer of India's
> > disability rights movement, passes away - https://newzhook.com/story/
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Re: [AI] Sneha Agrawal reports: Teen clones SC website, forges orders to protect blind father's reputation

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Either the boy is very smart or the father is hiding the fact that he can
use screen readers to do all that.


-Original Message-
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Of avinash shahi
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:13 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Sneha Agrawal reports: Teen clones SC website, forges orders
to protect blind father's reputation

HIGHLIGHTS
list of 6 items
14-year-old cloned Supreme Court website, impersonated judges and sent fake
order to Delhi High Court.
He wanted to protect his blind father's reputation.
His father had lost a case in Supreme Court.
After the fake order, The Delhi High Court instructed his father to file
fresh petition, thus reopening the case.
The High Court was stunned after revelation of the forgery.
Police have nabbed the father-son duo.
list end
Image for representation
https://www.indiatoday.in/mail-today/story/teen-clones-sc-website-forges-ord
ers-to-protect-blind-father-s-reputation-1178336-2018-02-27
To what extent can a child go to see a parent happy is a problem that has
baffled investigating agencies as well as senior Delhi High Court and
Supreme Court judges.

A Delhi-based 14-year-old-boy is being investigated for forging Supreme
Court and Delhi High Court orders in favour of his blind father after the
man lost a legal battle against his employers.

The child also created a fake apex court website and uploaded the forged
documents on it.

The teenager went a step ahead and impersonated senior Supreme Court judges
and their staffers to ensure that the fake order copy was also implemented
in a bid to restore his father's reputation.

According to his statement to the police, the child mentioned how his
father, who worked as assistant professor in a college, had filed several
complaints against the principal and the management alleging irregularities,
but no action was taken.

"We even went up to the Supreme Court but the case was dismissed. My father
got really tense and depressed after losing the case. On his instructions, I
had helped him draft the petition on the laptop and even given him updates
from the court website.

After it was dismissed, we came up with the idea of creating a fake Supreme
Court website and uploaded the order that we forged in our favour," said the
minor's statement.

According to the police, the child uploaded the order on social media and
even sent it to his father's acquaintances on messaging apps to make the
actions appear official.

The child is suspected to have functioned under his father's supervision.

At first, the order copy was sent to the chief metropolitan magistrate of a
district court, seeking compliance. With no response, the duo decided to try
this on the Delhi High Court.

"Posing as chief justice, he sent the order copy to one of the senior High
Court judges seeking compliance of the forged order. They were later called
to file a fresh petition before the court," said police sources The boy also
managed to create a fake Supreme Court seal to give documents a genuine
look.

The day the matter came up for hearing in the High Court, the judge was
shocked to learn that the order copy and other documents being produced were
fake and no such favourable order was ever passed.

The police registered a case under charges of criminal conspiracy, and
forging an authoritative document for the purpose of cheating and using it
as a genuine one.

Officials said the child had sent the e-mails from a cyber cafe and also
shopped for material to create a fake Supreme Court seal from a stationery
shop in the Khan Market.

The juvenile was apprehended in December last year. While the father is
lodged in Tihar Central Jail, the minor was granted bail following an
undertaking.
However, after reaching home, the boy yet again impersonated a senior
Supreme Court judge and sent mails to lower court judges to quash the FIR
and grant bail.

The teen even created a fake email ID of the investigating officer in this
case and sent a mail to his school principal, seeking rustication. In a
fresh application to the court, the investigating officer in the case has
sought that the minor be kept in the observation home and mentioned that he
needs long-term counselling.


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Re: [AI] Moderator: closing the thread. RE: Deification of the disabled in the media

[Dinesh Kaushal]

I am not sure if requesting the moderator to change his decision is a good
idea, but I think this discussion is only starting. We could let it go on as
we might get better idea about how we could be represented in the media.

We could however decouple  our discussion away from Ashish's interview and
take more general approach as suggested by Shireen.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:41 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: [AI] Moderator: closing the thread. RE: Deification of the disabled
in the media

All

Although this an important topic. However, nothing new is emerging and it is
time we close the thread.

Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Avichal Bhatnagar
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:06 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media

Agree with you George Sir, but if any media person tries to take a wrong
approach in the interview, shouldn't we tell him this there itself?
Since Ashish did not have a problem, therefore we need to respect this
interview. And its not poor journalism at all in my opinion.
There are many approaches towards disability, and we need to respect them
equally.

On 1/30/18, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
> Media persons and society have  very low expectation from persons with 
> disability. They consider it awesome when someone with disability 
> lives a normal life . They think it is incredible. While it is 
> important to showcase stories of so called achievers, it is also 
> critical to focus on inputs that helped the person get to where he or 
> she has got to. Journeys of people who have made their mark are not 
> only inspirational, they are also educative and informative. While 
> assistive technology is important, quality of education is paramount.
> The blind citizens of India receive education that is pathetic. It is 
> a miracle that people are still emerging and making a mark.
>
> On another note Arnabh claims to be a personal friend of Ashish. He 
> mentioned this to me when I had met with him during the India 
> Inclusive Summit a couple of years ago. Perhaps he knows enough to be 
> able to conduct an interview with Ashish. This interview should be put 
> down to poor journalism, insensitivity and irresponsibility. This happens
all the time.
> There are a number of things that are wrong  with how people cover 
> disability in the media.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Dinesh Kaushal
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:32 AM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media
>
> Yes, I had observed earlier that he used to do extensive research 
> before interviewing popular people.
>
> Which means he didn't do his homework before interviewing Ashish. This 
> instance shows how much importance he accorded to the topic of disability.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:08 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media
>
> I agree - it was clear that Arnab had done no preparation for the 
> interview or made the slightest attempt to figure how they function.
> Not a single question was based on specifics. It was clear that the 
> sole purpose of the interview was to drive home the point that this is so
inspiring.
>
> Best,
> Rahul
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 29, 2018, at 10:54 PM, Turabh <turab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If the media  wants  to confer  celebrity status  on the disabled , 
>> they
> ought to at least  prepare specific questions. Parroting the  same 
> thread for all disabled  persons is pointless and baseless .
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 29-Jan-2018, at 9:40 PM, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> Avichal, in addition to the brilliant points that Alok and Dinesh 
>>> have
> made, I also think that it is worth remembering that this interview is 
> in many ways emblematic of the way mainstream media views the 
> disabled. 

Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Yes, I had observed earlier that he used to do extensive research before
interviewing popular people.

Which means he didn't do his homework before interviewing Ashish. This
instance shows how much importance he accorded to the topic of disability.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:08 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media

I agree - it was clear that Arnab had done no preparation for the interview
or made the slightest attempt to figure how they function. Not a single
question was based on specifics. It was clear that the sole purpose of the
interview was to drive home the point that this is so inspiring.

Best,
Rahul

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2018, at 10:54 PM, Turabh <turab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If the media  wants  to confer  celebrity status  on the disabled , they
ought to at least  prepare specific questions. Parroting the  same thread
for all disabled  persons is pointless and baseless . 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29-Jan-2018, at 9:40 PM, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> 
>> Avichal, in addition to the brilliant points that Alok and Dinesh have
made, I also think that it is worth remembering that this interview is in
many ways emblematic of the way mainstream media views the disabled. So the
interview cannot be viewed in isolation. Further, how often do mainstream
anchors like Arnab cover the disabled? Given how rarely this happens, it is
important for us to ensure that the portrayal is not such as to reinforce
harmful stereotypes.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2018, at 8:12 PM, Dinesh Kaushal <dineshkaus...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>>> 
>>> You are right that we should not tell Ashish how he should represent his
situation.
>>> 
>>> But we can certainly discuss among ourselves how we want to be
represented and whether we could do anything to change that. Anyone of us
who have any experience regarding media, know that often we do not have much
control about how we want to be represented.
>>> 
>>> We can also discuss what things we want to represent, but each
individual has full right how they want to be represented.
>>> 
>>> Having said that, there are also some reasons why it would help everyone
if we could dimistify why we achieved what we did. Actually the point of
such interviews is not that we just praise people, we should also learn how
they did what they did. So I can only request everyone that please
acknowledge role of assistive technology when you talk about your
achievements.
>>> 
>>> Not acknowledging role of assistive technology is equivalent for a
scientist not disclosing the tools used for the discovery and just claiming
that she discovered what she did.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>>> Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar
>>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 6:31 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media
>>> 
>>> Well, I completely disagree with this.
>>> If Ashish doesn't find anything wrong in the way his interview was
conducted, then who are we to impose our viewpoint on him?
>>> Its high time that we stop poking our noses unnecessarily in every
affair.
>>> 
>>>> On 1/29/18, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for your thoughtful responses, everyone. I did engage with 
>>>> Ashish on this issue on Twitter, and our conversation can be found
>>>> here: https://twitter.com/Rahul400/with_replies
>>>> His handle is InsaneOdyssey.
>>>> 
>>>> To his credit, he did appreciate my viewpoint but was of the view 
>>>> that all accomplishments should be celebrated, by the able-bodied 
>>>> or the disabled. With respect, I think that did not address the 
>>>> central point that I was trying to make.
>>>> 
>>>> Based on Alok's suggestion, I think we should write an open letter 
>>>> to Arnab and get it published on a platform like the Wire or 
>>>> Scroll. I am happy to craft it and share it with others who concur 
>>>> with the sentiment that I have voiced here. I think these 
>>>> principles are important and ought to be 

Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media

[Dinesh Kaushal]

You are right that we should not tell Ashish how he should represent his 
situation.

But we can certainly discuss among ourselves how we want to be represented and 
whether we could do anything to change that. Anyone of us who have any 
experience regarding media, know that often we do not have much control about 
how we want to be represented.

We can also discuss what things we want to represent, but each individual has 
full right how they want to be represented.

Having said that, there are also some reasons why it would help everyone if we 
could dimistify why we achieved what we did. Actually the point of such 
interviews is not that we just praise people, we should also learn how they did 
what they did. So I can only request everyone that please acknowledge role of 
assistive technology when you talk about your achievements.

Not acknowledging role of assistive technology is equivalent for a scientist 
not disclosing the tools used for the discovery and just claiming that she 
discovered what she did.



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Avichal Bhatnagar
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 6:31 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media

Well, I completely disagree with this.
If Ashish doesn't find anything wrong in the way his interview was conducted, 
then who are we to impose our viewpoint on him?
Its high time that we stop poking our noses unnecessarily in every affair.

On 1/29/18, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your thoughtful responses, everyone. I did engage with 
> Ashish on this issue on Twitter, and our conversation can be found
> here: https://twitter.com/Rahul400/with_replies
> His handle is InsaneOdyssey.
>
> To his credit, he did appreciate my viewpoint but was of the view that 
> all accomplishments should be celebrated, by the able-bodied or the 
> disabled. With respect, I think that did not address the central point 
> that I was trying to make.
>
> Based on Alok's suggestion, I think we should write an open letter to 
> Arnab and get it published on a platform like the Wire or Scroll. I am 
> happy to craft it and share it with others who concur with the 
> sentiment that I have voiced here. I think these principles are 
> important and ought to be voiced, irrespective of how many people read 
> them. Does this make sense?
>
> Best,
> Rahul
>
> On 29/01/2018, wheelchairman.nlc <wheelchairman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Please clarify whether SC/SC or OBC fall under state list or 
>> concurrent list.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>  Original message From: avinash shahi 
>> <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> Date: 29/01/2018  15:33  (GMT+05:30) To:
>> "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Subject: 
>> Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media This discussion 
>> reminds me of the late Stella Young who put is so bluntly that 
>> disabled people are presented as 'inspiration porn' by the media. In 
>> India our Prime Minister himself is hellbent in bestowing divinity to 
>> our ordinary and mortal lives. For those interested who have joined 
>> the group lately or have missed reading it earlier, can find time to 
>> read my write up written over the divinity issue which was appeared 
>> in the Tribune. "Deifying people with disabilities a cruel joke"
>> http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/comment/deifying-people-with-disabil
>> ities-a-cruel-joke/181902.html
>> Best
>>
>>
>> On 1/29/18, Alok Kaushik <alok.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Rahul, Dinesh  and Payal  have  already put  down the essence of 
>>> this discussion. While we  can keep putting down our views amongst  
>>> ourselves, it would  be better  if they are heard  by those  who 
>>> perpetuate these stereotypes. Would  it  be good idea to collect 
>>> more  views  on this thread, collate  them in form of an article, 
>>> and send it to Arnab Goswami.
>>> Ideally it  would be best if Ashish sends it, but  I am not sure if  
>>> he would  be  willing to  do it. If anyone  on this  list interacts  
>>> with him at a personal level, he / she  can possibly  convey this  
>>> to him.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Alok
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>>> Behalf Of Dinesh Kaushal

Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Thanks for starting conversation on an important topic.

The way media houses distort and push people around is well-known. I think
that Arnab Goswami would not have allowed Ashish to say what he might have
wanted to say.

It was evident from the way Arnab constantly kept saying that I want people
to get inspired. So he might have not allowed him to talk about role of
assistive technology. The reason that Arnab might have not allowed that
description is that the fact that technology could help people with
blindness would not make him look so super human.

Even then, I feel that we have missed a great opportunity to bring awareness
about how assistive technology could help millions. As Rahul said, This
instance highlights that we should not help in perpetuating these harmful
stereotypes. I also suggest that we need to be vigilant about our
responsibility of making people aware about how technology has made so many
things possible. Granted that it has become part of our lives so much that
we may not realize that for people who have no exposure to these
technologies, this could be the difference in making us look super human vs
people using specialized tool that anyone could learn.

For those who might want to be seen as amazing people, even though when we
show people how technology helps us to do regular stuff, people think we are
so inspirational!



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Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 9:58 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media

Hi everyone,

I hope this message finds you well. I recently came across Ashish Goyal's
interview to Arnab Goswami on Republic TV that was conducted on Republic
Day:
http://www.republicworld.com/s/20590/meet-the-first-visually-impaired-person
-to-attend-wharton-business-school 

At the outset, I think what Mr. Goyal has achieved is truly commendable and
worthy of appreciation. Despite the odds being heavily stacked against him,
he has overcome challenges that most would have considered insurmountable.
However, I was somewhat troubled by the manner in which Mr. Goswami sought
to construct his narrative. More specifically, he called Mr. Goyal an
inspiration multiple times and framed his questions in such a way that they
made Mr. Goyal appear superhuman. For instance, the interviewers considered
him an expert on overcoming obstacles as a student merely on the ground that
he has been able to accomplish so much despite his disability. This got me
thinking about whether the deification of the disabled in this fashion is a
healthy phenomenon. Doesn't it help perpetuate their otherization and
alienation which we work so hard to break down? Also, I wonder if we, as
disabled interviewees, have an obligation to actively engage with
interviewers to ensure that we are not helping perpetuate these harmful
stereotypes.

To be clear, I don't have anything against Mr. Goyal personally. Indeed, I
confess to being all too willing to be made the subject matter of news
stories like these. I do think that such stories serve the valuable purpose
of driving home the point that, with access to opportunities and resources,
there is nothing that the disabled cannot achieve. However, at the same
time, I am wondering if this object can be attained without  us being
complicit in reinforcing harmful stereotypes.

Best,
Rahul 


 

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Re: [AI] ICICI bank - accessibility issues

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Hi Geetha,

Look for the hyperlink "fund transfers" and once you open it, you would find
buttons to transfer or add payees.

If this hyperlink is not working then there would be some message from icici
that you need to either dismiss or do what it wants. For example if ICICI
wants you to add Aadhar information then it would provide you an option to
either select update or Later. If you select later, then the hyperlinks
would become active.

There is a menu on the top of most of the pages in icici which requires
mouse click to open them. In NVDA you could route mouse to focus with NVDA +
shift + m followed by left mouse click with NVDA + [.

This menu has most of the important options such as account details,
investments, ETC.

-Original Message-
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Of Geetha Shamanna
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 12:05 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.' 
Subject: [AI] ICICI bank - accessibility issues

Hi all,

I recently switched from Citibank to ICICI, and am having a few teething
issues with online banking. 

My problems relate to not being able to find the option to add new payees
and transfer funds. The Payments and Transfers option does not appear to be
a link, and clicking on it does nothing. Also, I am unable to find the
option to turn on email alerts for credits and debits.

Would greatly appreciate it if anyone here who has been with ICICI for a
while can help.

Many thanks.
Geetha


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Re: [AI] I am on the BBC and configuring my computer to read Hindi

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Just go to settings > time and language > region and language and select
Hindi which is in the list box after add language option. You might see
English and Hindi but sometimes second option (which is Hindi) may not be
read and it seems to be a problem with NVDA.

Once you select Hindi, press space and NVDA will say expanded. After tabbing
twice you would be on options. Open options and in this dialog you should
find buttons to download the Hindi voices.

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Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:37 AM
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the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] I am on the BBC and configuring my computer to read Hindi

Hi Nirmal,
http://atindictrust.blogspot.com/2017/11/10.html?m=1
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Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

[Dinesh Kaushal]

As I mentioned, the senior was not called for reading the document; they
were called for picking out which document had to be notarized.


That is even more simpler! But I would assume that I don't know your
situation exactly, but as much as I know, in such a situation I would have
used KNFB reader. Anyways, the topic is whether it is discrimination.

I agree with Shireen on this.


P.S. Every squabble also need not become a disability issue. He may have
said the same thing to any1 else who sent an office boy to summon him, given
his self-perceived position.


Before thinking that is it due to disability, we could ask ourselves whether
it could be due to other reasons. Taking responsibility of our own situation
goes a long way. There is a thin line between entitlement thinking and
reasonable accommodation.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 10:32 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful
fashion

Thank you, Dinesh and Shirin. Dinesh, with great respect, I do wish you had
read my mail more closely before arriving at a conclusion. As I mentioned,
the senior was not called for reading the document; they were called for
picking out which document had to be notarized. There were essentially a
bunch of hard copy documents, one of which was an affidavit. We had to
identify which was the affidavit and send it ahead. I was working with said
superior on this project.

Second, the documents were on my desk, so he naturally had to come there.
Further, when he called me, I sought his instructions and then sent the
office boy with these documents to his desk. In other words, he did not come
to my desk at all in actuality.

Third, given the mobility restrictions that flow from blindness, how is it
unreasonable to expect the other person to do the walking and not you.

Best,
Rahul

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> On Jan 5, 2018, at 7:12 PM, Shireen Irani <shireen@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rahul,
> Here are my 2 bits of wisdom!
> ;-)
> 
> yes, sadly this is more of a favour than an obligation, and asking the 
> office boy to summon him was perhaps not the best way to do this, 
> given his seniority which he seems to be constantly aware of, from the 
> way u describe him. If u just have to seek help again, you could 
> perhaps go to him personally and request him as a favour to come to 
> your desk, rather than having him summoned. People usually do like to 
> seem helpful, and requesting for favours is often more strategically 
> economical. unless of course it is a legitimate  demand for a right.
> In a scenario where the general attitude is that we're being employed 
> as a favour in the first place, its best to find as many ways to be 
> the least dependent, particularly on those who might have a say in 
> your performance appraisals etc. Its really unfortunate, but being on 
> top of things all the time, particularly when you're the only blind 
> person around, is really frustrating, but extremely mandatory if we 
> want to hold on to whatever mainstream space we manage to occupy. But 
> some of that knowhow will only come from experience being among your 
> colleagues and identifying their buttons!
> Just try not to take things very personally for your own sanity, and 
> start afresh each day! U want to stick like glue to that space, till 
> you leave it of your own choosing. Pat yourself on the back for 
> accomplishing things thus far, and face the storm with a firm footing!
> smile.
> Best wishes!
> 
> Shireen.
> 
> 
>> On 1/5/18, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> I hope this message finds you well. At my workplace, which is a law 
>> firm, I recently confronted a situation which I think I could have 
>> dealt with in a more graceful way.
>> 
>> One of my superiors, who is not the nicest person to put it mildly, 
>> displayed blatant ableism and unacceptable conduct. We had to get a 
>> hard copy document notarized for filing purposes. Now, when I asked 
>> the office boy to request this superior to come to my desk and help 
>> me in picking out the documents that had to be notarized, as the 
>> documents were at my desk, he called me and said, his voice dripping 
>> with condescension, "Tell me, sir, what can I do for you?"
>> 
>> Now, I am generally known to have a calm temperament and strive to be 
>> unfailingly polite to everyone. However, his response really rubbed 
>> me the wrong way, to put it mildly. Later, when he came to talk to me 
>> and sensed by my facial re

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

[Dinesh Kaushal]

In that case, instead of sending the office boy, you could visit him and
explain as Pranav highlighted.

I am sorry I don't agree with mobility restriction argument due to
disability. Many of us can navigate around for our office, shopping, and
even for movies, then mobility within office should not be difficult. If you
make mobility as an excuse would you say no if your office posts you in an
advance country where you are supposed to navigate on your own? Yes, I have
seen many blind persons not moving on their own with in office premise, but
I find those people lacking in skill rather than basic limitation due to
disability.

Well, others would agree if you say that you cannot go to someone's place
due to your disability as they don't know the difference between what you
can or cannot do due to disability or skill. But next time they would use
that as an argument against people with disabilities.

I am not alone, but I can share only my example to highlight the point. I
have been navigating in an office premise which had 6 to 7 buildings. In
that office other persons with blindness sought assistance to move around.
It is great that your office provides assistance, but I would urge that
instead of relying on assistance to move around, seek assistance to know the
place and start moving independently.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 10:32 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful
fashion

Thank you, Dinesh and Shirin. Dinesh, with great respect, I do wish you had
read my mail more closely before arriving at a conclusion. As I mentioned,
the senior was not called for reading the document; they were called for
picking out which document had to be notarized. There were essentially a
bunch of hard copy documents, one of which was an affidavit. We had to
identify which was the affidavit and send it ahead. I was working with said
superior on this project.

Second, the documents were on my desk, so he naturally had to come there.
Further, when he called me, I sought his instructions and then sent the
office boy with these documents to his desk. In other words, he did not come
to my desk at all in actuality.

Third, given the mobility restrictions that flow from blindness, how is it
unreasonable to expect the other person to do the walking and not you.

Best,
Rahul

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2018, at 7:12 PM, Shireen Irani <shireen@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rahul,
> Here are my 2 bits of wisdom!
> ;-)
> 
> yes, sadly this is more of a favour than an obligation, and asking the 
> office boy to summon him was perhaps not the best way to do this, 
> given his seniority which he seems to be constantly aware of, from the 
> way u describe him. If u just have to seek help again, you could 
> perhaps go to him personally and request him as a favour to come to 
> your desk, rather than having him summoned. People usually do like to 
> seem helpful, and requesting for favours is often more strategically 
> economical. unless of course it is a legitimate  demand for a right.
> In a scenario where the general attitude is that we're being employed 
> as a favour in the first place, its best to find as many ways to be 
> the least dependent, particularly on those who might have a say in 
> your performance appraisals etc. Its really unfortunate, but being on 
> top of things all the time, particularly when you're the only blind 
> person around, is really frustrating, but extremely mandatory if we 
> want to hold on to whatever mainstream space we manage to occupy. But 
> some of that knowhow will only come from experience being among your 
> colleagues and identifying their buttons!
> Just try not to take things very personally for your own sanity, and 
> start afresh each day! U want to stick like glue to that space, till 
> you leave it of your own choosing. Pat yourself on the back for 
> accomplishing things thus far, and face the storm with a firm footing!
> smile.
> Best wishes!
> 
> Shireen.
> 
> 
>> On 1/5/18, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> I hope this message finds you well. At my workplace, which is a law 
>> firm, I recently confronted a situation which I think I could have 
>> dealt with in a more graceful way.
>> 
>> One of my superiors, who is not the nicest person to put it mildly, 
>> displayed blatant ableism and unacceptable conduct. We had to get a 
>> hard copy document notarized for filing purposes. Now, when I asked 
>> the office boy to request this superior to come to my desk and help 
>> m

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Well, reasonable accommodation means that you are provided tools to help
read documents, but asking 
people to read out the documents for you may not qualify as reasonable
accommodations, on top of this, calling someone to your desk for this can
rubbed them the wrong way.

I wonder why you are not using OCR to read the documents? In case a document
cannot be read by an OCR, then you could request a junior to do so. Asking a
senior to read a document is asking for a favor not reasonable
accommodation.



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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 4:25 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful
fashion

Hi Everyone,

I hope this message finds you well. At my workplace, which is a law firm, I
recently confronted a situation which I think I could have dealt with in a
more graceful way.

One of my superiors, who is not the nicest person to put it mildly,
displayed blatant ableism and unacceptable conduct. We had to get a hard
copy document notarized for filing purposes. Now, when I asked the office
boy to request this superior to come to my desk and help me in picking out
the documents that had to be notarized, as the documents were at my desk, he
called me and said, his voice dripping with condescension, "Tell me, sir,
what can I do for you?"

Now, I am generally known to have a calm temperament and strive to be
unfailingly polite to everyone. However, his response really rubbed me the
wrong way, to put it mildly. Later, when he came to talk to me and sensed by
my facial reaction that I was not happy with him, he asked me what the issue
was. I told him, admittedly in a very combative and aggressive way, that his
behavior was unacceptable. What he was doing for me was only a reasonable
accommodation which he was mandated to provide. He was not doing me a
favour, and it was wrong for him to think that I was ordering him to do
something for him. I said this in a way angry and hurt way, as I don't think
it is acceptable for anyone to behave in this fashion.

I am wondering, in hindsight, if my response was proportionate to his
behavior or if I should have reacted in a more graceful fashion. I know that
many disabled people face thousands of silent indignities and don't complain
about them, because, well, it can jeopardize their career, they have far
more pressing concerns and this is just how the world is. But aren't we
bound to call people out for ableism, even if it is uncomfortable?

Best,
Rahul

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Re: [AI] Cursor navigation in NVDA : quick navigation command.

[Dinesh Kaushal]

There are 3 main cursor navigation modes in NVDA.

Regular cursor navigation can be done with arrow keys along with various
modification keys such as control and shift. These are actually not NVDA
commands but these are standard windows commands.

Review cursor navigation: this helps to read information without changing
the system focus. This is done by adding NVDA key to standard navigation
commands. This would come handy where system focus would not go such as
command prompt. So going to previous line can be done with NVDA key plus up
arrow key. Review cursor is somewhat like jaws cursor with the difference
that in jaws once you switch to jaws cursor regular keys behave differently
whereas in NVDA you need to hold the NVDA key to navigate in the review
cursor.

Object Navigation: this can be done by adding NVDA + shift to arrow keys.
Object navigation helps to navigate in an hierarchical way. For example by
pressing NVDA plus Shift plus up arrow key you could eventually reach the
desktop. This comes handy when you can't find some objects via regular
navigation method such as check boxes for list items on windows 10 lists.


Browse mode and focus mode are specific for web browsers and office
applications. You could use NVDA + space to switch between those modes.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Chandrashekhar Kulkarni
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 2:31 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Cursor navigation in NVDA : quick navigation command.

Dear friend,
Will you please forward the attachment regarding keyboard commands in NVDA
with the task they perform to my email ID as well? I will be really
grateful. my ID is.
kulkarni.chandr...@gmail.com
Awaiting your kind assistance,
Sincerely,
C. B. Kullkarni

On 04/01/2018, rehan  wrote:
> Hi sarvanan,
>
> that attachment contains only keyboard shortcut details.
> if required, I can send you.
> sorry, I could not get your question related to NVDA cursor navigation.
> if I am correct.
> NVDA reads PC cursor and user navigate through the keyboard.
> thanks.
>
> On 1/4/18, Saravanan  wrote:
>> Dear Rehan,
>>
>> Attachments are not allowed here.
>>
>> Pls. send it to my mail ID
> .
>>
>> Along provide the details for mouse navigation, object navigation and 
>> review cursors also.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Saravanan.K
>>
>> +91 9916512402
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2018 12:12 PM, rehan wrote:
>>> hi All,
>>> Rehan here.
>>>
>>> Browse Mode: Browse mode is used when reading documents or web 
>>> pages.
>>> Focus Mode: Focus mode is used when the user enters a form or other 
>>> fields that require user input. NVDA automatically switches between 
>>> Browse and Focus modes, but the user can toggle them using Insert + 
>>> Space Bar.
>>>
>>> i have attached the quick navigation keys please find it.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/4/18, Saravanan  wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am Saravanan.
 I am not getting good idea in cursor navigation in NVDA.
 So, pls guide me in providing clear cut details of cursor 
 navigation in NVDA.
 Is there any step by step tutorial for cursor navigation in NVDA.
 Pls. provide it

 Thanks
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Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

[Dinesh Kaushal]

I guess we may not have to worry about all these conditions if video
recording of the session could be made mandatory. Video recording should be
submitted so that anytime any authority could verify if any cheating
happened.
for any 



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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:59 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent


See the opinion of some stake holders. I had started answering these but got
foxed with NIVH -our apex body. 
Now what to do friends when we have to face ourselves. 

1.  SSC
Candidate allowed to bring their own scribe can misuse this facility which
could adversely impact the transparency and integrity of the examination. It
also has the potential to disrupt the level playing field for other
candidates in this category who accept the scribe provided by the
Commission. i. Moreover the propensity for allegations/complaints of unfair
practises could also be high. 
Kp Supervision which is the responsibility of the Examining Authority

2.  CBSE
Scribe should not have obtained qualification in same subject in which the
candidate is appearing for the examination and should be one class lower
than the candidate 
3.  National Trust 
Scribe/reader/lab Assistant should be qualified according to the need of the
examination and should be conversant with the language of the examination.
He should not be overqualified as he may unduly assist the PwD/candidate.
KP Ok   
4.   IPH 
Whenever possible the PwD should have the same scribe for written
assessments as they had for other classroom tests. In all cases, the scribe
must have an understating of how to record responses using procedures
described and familiar with the test including knowledge of vocabulary used
in the test.
Scribe should not be in blood relation with the Pwds KP cannot have the same
scribe Scribe should not be in blood relation to the candidate Kp OK NIVH
NIHH left open to the examining bodies In case of graduate level examination
the scribe can be a graduate from a different stream In case of Master Level
Examination the scribe cab be from a different
discipline than that of the candidate. A   graduate level  scribe from the
same discipline can be allowed for aMaster level examination in such a case
the percentage of marks of graduate level scribe should be more than 60% For
entrance and school tests involving basic qualification of candidate upto
12th std the qualification of the scribe should be one step lower than that
of the candidate. For example 12th class candidate may be allowed an 11th
class with not more than 70% marks. In case the candidate chooses a scribe
10th class pass then there should be no restriction on percentage of marks.

CCPD
The Para IV provides option to the candidate for opting their own scribe or
request the examination body for the same. Both the option are relevant.
However keeping in view the gravity of the examination candidate's own
scribe should not be his/her close relative such as parents siblings etc The
Qualification of the scribe mustbe lower than the candidate however scribe
frim the same subject area may be allowed provided having lower
qualification Guidelines should clearly mention that parents and close
relatives will not be allowed as scribe. 
  
Close relative OK

V 1. SSC
Scribe provided by the commission has adequate educational level The overall
conduct of examination is done under proper invigilation/supervision to
check malpractices 

2. CBSC
Scribe should not have obtained his/her qualification in same subject in
which the candidate is appearing for the examination and he /she should be
one class lower than the candidate

3. National Trust
Scribe/reader/lab assistant should be qualified according to the need of the
examination and should be conversant with the language of the examination he
Should not be overqualified as he may unduly assist the Pwd/candidate 

4.IPH
Scribe should ne from an academic discipline different from that post of
written exam] Invigilator should be trained and ensure that scribe remains
impartial and should not be any way influence the student performance on the
test

5.  CCPD
The education qualification must be decided as lower than that of candidate
The criteria for scribe should be separate for school/college or other
academic examination and competitive examination 


  


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of SC Vashishth
Sent: 14 December 2017 17:42
To: AI List; avinash shahi
Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

Dear Kanchan,

I strongly disagree on putting any restrictions on scribes. It would be like
raising the kerbs on the kerb ramps because some biker users misuse the
pedestrian sidewalks. This is an issue of 

Re: [AI] typing

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Hi Kanchan,

Any Devanagari Unicode font for Marathi should work.

Try out windows 10 built-in Marathi from settings > time language > region
and language and add Marathi from add language list.


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Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 3:06 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.' 
Subject: [AI] typing

Hi 

What Marathi font do I have to type in so that it is accessible with NVDA? 

Who can type  a 40 page document in this font for me? 

I am happy to pay for the typing. 

K 



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Re: [AI] Meeting with Ola team on accessibility gaps in Ola app, share inputs by 2:00 pm, 2nd Nov (tomorrow)

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Some of us got together early this year and we have framed the guidelines
for Mobile Accessibility practices in collaboration with Center for Internet
and Society. 
Apart from the problems, you could share these practices as a reference
document for them.

https://cis-india.org/accessibility/blog/mobile-accessibility-practices

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Of Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI)
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 7:25 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Meeting with Ola team on accessibility gaps in Ola app, share
inputs by 2:00 pm, 2nd Nov (tomorrow)

Hi all,

There is a meeting with Ola product team to share accessibility gaps with
Ola app tomorrow at 4:00 pm. Please share the issues that you have been
facing with Ola app on Android or IOS. It's a last minute invite from the
Ola team and suggestions you share before 2:00 pm tomorrow (2nd Nov) can be
included in the discussion.

The discussion with them have been going for long, but this time there is a
higher probability for them to fix the issues.

Regards,
Blind Graduates Forum of India.

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Re: [AI] Off-topic How a professional breaches physical security of organization

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Another profession for someone who is experiencing disability, as many security 
personals don't check credentials for people with disabilities

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pranav@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 7:12 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] Off-topic How a professional breaches physical security of 
organization

People,

Another myth in physical security is that the guards will handle it. The
guards are no protection whatsoever.  Sophie's account is accurate and this
kind of thing happens more commonly in India than you think.

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Re: [AI] Announcement of Browse Mode and Focus Mode in NVDA:

[Dinesh Kaushal]

In preferences > Brows Mode, uncheck Audio indication of focus and browse 
modes. 

NVDA will speak focus mode and Browse Mode.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Ajeesh Thomas
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 5:23 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Announcement of Browse Mode and Focus Mode in NVDA:

Hi All,
As you know, We have Browse Mode and  Focus Mode in NVDA - and
switching between these two Reading Modes "  (Command  is Insert
+Space Bar" )
, NVDA  indicate  by "Tick" Sound
Instead of  this Generic "Tic" sound   -  How to make NVDA announce
these   Mode   Modification  in "Speach" - i  mean  NVDA should
announce "Browse Mode On"  /  Focus Mode On"  - while switching
between.
If  we could enable  this "Speach "  somewhere - that would  be a
helpful option while Testing  Webpages  which containing Dialogs and
Overlays  with NVDA .

Please  share your inputs and Thanks  in advance,

-- 
" Have a fantastic day "ahead"

Ajeesh Chacko Thomas,
senior Accessibility Test Engineer,
IBM India, Banglore,
Mob: 0  81233 81222,Lan: 04742586821, Office: 04443423000
skipe: ajeeshthomas86

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Re: [AI] as bajaj fincer rejected my consumer loan

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Yes, we had no problem.

We would be more than happy to work with you to help them understand their 
folly.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Payal Kapoor
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 2:06 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] as bajaj fincer rejected my consumer loan

and i just spoke with Madhu Sharma and she also mentioned they took a
loan from Bajaj Finserv for their sofa set late last year without any
hassle. both Dinesh and Madhu went to shop and process the purchase in
Gurgaon themselves.
i think Bajaj has no clue of how deep they are digging the hole to
bury themselves in.

On 6/5/17, Payal Kapoor <paya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i will be more than willing to be your correspondent on this K.
> you just need to guide me on the hows and whats of the matter and i am
> your postman good to go.
>
> On 6/5/17, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Payyal would you like to represent me and take up this correspondence.
>> Its
>> going to be a long drawn out mess.
>> I will have to take my FD back but I don't want them to penalise me for
>> it.
>> So I need someone to get into the correspondence.
>> K
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Payal Kapoor
>> Sent: 05 June 2017 12:59
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] as bajaj fincer rejected my consumer loan
>>
>> and, get them to tune their e mail responses to sound less paradoxical
>> and
>> foolish too.
>> on the one hand say we deny you the loan and on the other say we assure
>> you
>> the best services! they need a reality check and get a life really!
>>
>> On 6/5/17, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> Please give me your telephone no.
>>> Its quite interesting. I have given Bajaj a Fixed deposit. So
>>> basically they accept money from the Disabled but wont give a Disabled a
>> loan.
>>> Maybe it is time to go to the press and make a noise about these
>> attitudes.
>>>
>>>
>>> K
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of sazid shaik
>>> Sent: 05 June 2017 12:10
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: [AI] as bajaj fincer rejected my consumer loan
>>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>> Yesterday atlast I got a call from bajaj telling me that there is a
>>> company policy that it won't give loan to physically challenged
>>> persons.  I asked for a mail telling the same.  I am pasting the same
>>> with you.  Please go through this
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Sazid,
>>> Greetings from Bajaj Finserv!
>>> We regret the inconvenience that has been caused and appreciate your
>>> understanding and patience.
>>> With reference to your email and the discussion we had on 9493235007,
>>> we regret to inform you that the as per the company policy we are not
>>> able to provide loan to the physically disabled.
>>> Further as requested by you the email id for the next level of
>>> escalation is customerexperienceh...@bajajfinserv.in
>>> Assuring you of our best services always.
>>> Regards,
>>> Grievance Redressal
>>> Bajaj Finserv
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Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

[Dinesh Kaushal]

I am sorry to break my promise that I will not post again.

Vamshi Said: I think it is unfair towards a child to have him/her disabled if 
parents unilaterally feel that bringing up a disabled child is normal.

Dinesh: so is disability greater than life? We are not asking to make someone 
disabled, but disability could be part of the person. I don't like the idea if 
my parents would have aborted me if they could determine that I could be blind. 
And my siblings would also not have born if my parents were at risk of having 
one blind child.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vamshi. G
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 8:16 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

There are genetic centres like LVP, Hyderabad and SN, Chennai etc.
that can advise on the children getting the disability.  This is
something very important and should not be ignored by parents.  Though
I accept that a blind parent is more familiar about methods required
to bring up a blind child, there are certain issues where children
need support which can not be provided by that parent.  More
importantly, I think it is unfair towards a child to have him/her
disabled if parents unilaterally feel that bringing up a disabled
child is normal.

On 2/8/17, Dinesh Kaushal <dineshkaus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I just realized we might be going beyond list guidelines, so this will be my
> last post on this issue.
>
> Saying that independence is not an issue for blind persons may not be true.
> Many people are actually not independent though they may be going to office
> etc. I think even parents would not be consciously thinking that they might
> have to do extra work, but they might be thinking that someone will come and
> they will no longer have to worry about their child. I am not sure, but
> parents of blind girls would be worried about the safety of their daughter
> as well. And this things may or may not be correct, but I feel lack of
> independence would be a big contributor in the belief system.
>
> And if you ask, they may not be able to articulate it, but their actions
> would reveal that.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of SKYLINER
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 4:17 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners
>
> Cooking & independent living happens to be no issue for blind couples today.
>  Mostly blind women manage cusines & even if one does not, I understand, no
> house goes without engaging a house help in normal households too, be it
> paid one or any needy person in your family circle/relations today.
>
> As far being independent in marriages between a blind & sighted one for
> being independent, I feel it is more a myth not a reality.  Definitely one
> cannot move about places with his/her espouse in each case, each time
> including moving to work places for advantages of having a sighted partner.
>
>
> Besides, we are well placed & can mostly manage affording a car for which
> everybody needs a driving assistant, raises your standard & lesser concerns
> to family dependence.
>
> I also would definitely state here: the families cannot chuch their duties
> as brothers, sisters, parents whatsoever, if they consider the blind
> newcomer in their family as cumbursome commodity needing help for every
> household chores or for personal needs.  After all, everybody is dependent
> in family on each other for food, health & entertainment.
>
> As per beliefs of having offspring affected too, it may or may not be as God
> wills, in most case it may happen, but one has to be mentally prepared &
> accept it, fight it out.  I have a few examples where their son was born
> totally blind by cataract, diagnosed within 3/6 months, underwent operation
> & recovered 70% vision.  We know every sighted person is 4-5% short vision
> to hundred% & with aging ahead, the percentage increases gradually.
>
> One should not forget the intrinsic natural colisions in marriages on 2
> footings of blind & sighted ones permanently cultivating hidden inferiority
> & superiority relating vision  possessions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 10:14:00 +0530 Dinesh Kaushal  wrote
>
>>Disclaimer:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I do not have any background in genetics, but I remember reading about it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As a rule, there is around 1 percent chance anyone without a disability
> would have children with d

Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Start small. Instead of gas directly, start with microwave.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
sadaf khan
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 8:30 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

considering that independence is the key to have a good and
self-sufficient life, what can one do in cases where the parents are
not open to train the child in mobility? in cases where parents fear
to leave their child to handle a gas? and in cases where the child is
independent but still the parents prefer a sighted partner instead of
an independent VI partner?

On 2/8/17, Dinesh Kaushal <dineshkaus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I just realized we might be going beyond list guidelines, so this will be my
> last post on this issue.
>
> Saying that independence is not an issue for blind persons may not be true.
> Many people are actually not independent though they may be going to office
> etc. I think even parents would not be consciously thinking that they might
> have to do extra work, but they might be thinking that someone will come and
> they will no longer have to worry about their child. I am not sure, but
> parents of blind girls would be worried about the safety of their daughter
> as well. And this things may or may not be correct, but I feel lack of
> independence would be a big contributor in the belief system.
>
> And if you ask, they may not be able to articulate it, but their actions
> would reveal that.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of SKYLINER
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 4:17 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners
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> Cooking & independent living happens to be no issue for blind couples today.
>  Mostly blind women manage cusines & even if one does not, I understand, no
> house goes without engaging a house help in normal households too, be it
> paid one or any needy person in your family circle/relations today.
>
> As far being independent in marriages between a blind & sighted one for
> being independent, I feel it is more a myth not a reality.  Definitely one
> cannot move about places with his/her espouse in each case, each time
> including moving to work places for advantages of having a sighted partner.
>
>
> Besides, we are well placed & can mostly manage affording a car for which
> everybody needs a driving assistant, raises your standard & lesser concerns
> to family dependence.
>
> I also would definitely state here: the families cannot chuch their duties
> as brothers, sisters, parents whatsoever, if they consider the blind
> newcomer in their family as cumbursome commodity needing help for every
> household chores or for personal needs.  After all, everybody is dependent
> in family on each other for food, health & entertainment.
>
> As per beliefs of having offspring affected too, it may or may not be as God
> wills, in most case it may happen, but one has to be mentally prepared &
> accept it, fight it out.  I have a few examples where their son was born
> totally blind by cataract, diagnosed within 3/6 months, underwent operation
> & recovered 70% vision.  We know every sighted person is 4-5% short vision
> to hundred% & with aging ahead, the percentage increases gradually.
>
> One should not forget the intrinsic natural colisions in marriages on 2
> footings of blind & sighted ones permanently cultivating hidden inferiority
> & superiority relating vision  possessions.
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> On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 10:14:00 +0530 Dinesh Kaushal  wrote
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> I do not have any background in genetics, but I remember reading about it.
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> As a rule, there is around 1 percent chance anyone without a disability
> would have children with disability. Not sure if it is for all disabilities
> or each major disability has 1 percent chance.
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> But if both partners have a gene that can cause same disability even if they
> do not have disability themselves, they have a very high chance of a child
> with disability. So many people without disability don't know that their
> children could be disabled. But high chance does not mean hundred percent
> chance; It could be at most 50 percent. Since I am no genetic expert, please
> check.
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> Same disability means exact cause of disability. For example, if both
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Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

[Dinesh Kaushal]

I just realized we might be going beyond list guidelines, so this will be my 
last post on this issue.

Saying that independence is not an issue for blind persons may not be true. 
Many people are actually not independent though they may be going to office 
etc. I think even parents would not be consciously thinking that they might 
have to do extra work, but they might be thinking that someone will come and 
they will no longer have to worry about their child. I am not sure, but parents 
of blind girls would be worried about the safety of their daughter as well. And 
this things may or may not be correct, but I feel lack of independence would be 
a big contributor in the belief system.

And if you ask, they may not be able to articulate it, but their actions would 
reveal that.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
SKYLINER
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 4:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

Cooking & independent living happens to be no issue for blind couples today.  
Mostly blind women manage cusines & even if one does not, I understand, no 
house goes without engaging a house help in normal households too, be it paid 
one or any needy person in your family circle/relations today.

As far being independent in marriages between a blind & sighted one for being 
independent, I feel it is more a myth not a reality.  Definitely one cannot 
move about places with his/her espouse in each case, each time including moving 
to work places for advantages of having a sighted partner.  

Besides, we are well placed & can mostly manage affording a car for which 
everybody needs a driving assistant, raises your standard & lesser concerns to 
family dependence.  

I also would definitely state here: the families cannot chuch their duties as 
brothers, sisters, parents whatsoever, if they consider the blind newcomer in 
their family as cumbursome commodity needing help for every household chores or 
for personal needs.  After all, everybody is dependent in family on each other 
for food, health & entertainment.

As per beliefs of having offspring affected too, it may or may not be as God 
wills, in most case it may happen, but one has to be mentally prepared & accept 
it, fight it out.  I have a few examples where their son was born totally blind 
by cataract, diagnosed within 3/6 months, underwent operation & recovered 70% 
vision.  We know every sighted person is 4-5% short vision to hundred% & with 
aging ahead, the percentage increases gradually.  

One should not forget the intrinsic natural colisions in marriages on 2 
footings of blind & sighted ones permanently cultivating hidden inferiority & 
superiority relating vision  possessions.

 





On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 10:14:00 +0530 Dinesh Kaushal  wrote

>Disclaimer:







I do not have any background in genetics, but I remember reading about it.







As a rule, there is around 1 percent chance anyone without a disability would 
have children with disability. Not sure if it is for all disabilities or each 
major disability has 1 percent chance.







But if both partners have a gene that can cause same disability even if they do 
not have disability themselves, they have a very high chance of a child with 
disability. So many people without disability don't know that their children 
could be disabled. But high chance does not mean hundred percent chance; It 
could be at most 50 percent. Since I am no genetic expert, please check.







Same disability means exact cause of disability. For example, if both partners 
have genetic modification to cause glaucoma then it is same. But if one has 
genes for glaucoma and the other has genes for another cause such as Optic 
Atrophy, then the chance is as good as chance in a general population i.e. 1 
percent. So if both partners are blind due to different causes, they should not 
worry too much about it.







Besides, In my view a well-trained blind parent can take better care of a blind 
child as he or she has already learned to live a life with disability, and the 
real acceptance about disability would come only when people stop worrying 
about unborn disabled children.







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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
P. Subramani



Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 7:53 PM



To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 



Subject: Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners







another aspect for discouraging marriage between 2 disabled persons is 



more to do with genetics, the chances of having offsprings with disabilities 



is quite high, although close-relation marriages are also the causes of 



offspring with disabilities. In my experience, less than one percent of 



such cou

Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Disclaimer:

I do not have any background in genetics, but I remember reading about it.

As a rule, there is around 1 percent chance anyone without a disability would 
have children with disability. Not sure if it is for all disabilities or each 
major disability has 1 percent chance.

But if both partners have a gene that can cause same disability even if they do 
not have disability themselves, they have a very high chance of a child with 
disability. So many people without disability don't know that their children 
could be disabled. But high chance does not mean hundred percent chance; It 
could be at most 50 percent. Since I am no genetic expert, please check.

Same disability means exact cause of disability. For example, if both partners 
have genetic modification to cause glaucoma then it is same. But if one has 
genes for glaucoma and the other has genes for another cause such as Optic 
Atrophy, then the chance is as good as chance in a general population i.e. 1 
percent. So if both partners are blind due to different causes, they should not 
worry too much about it.

Besides, In my view a well-trained blind parent can take better care of a blind 
child as he or she has already learned to live a life with disability, and the 
real acceptance about disability would come only when people stop worrying 
about unborn disabled children.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
P. Subramani
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 7:53 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

another aspect  for discouraging marriage  between 2 disabled persons is 
more to do with genetics, the chances of having offsprings with disabilities 
is quite high, although close-relation marriages are also the causes of 
offspring with disabilities.  In my experience, less than  one percent of 
such couples lead an independent life without depending on others for 
cooking, household work, etc.  I do feel some strong reactions would be 
expected to my mail, but lets not be  hypocratical, most blind/disabled 
have non-disabled partner.
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From: "Dinesh Kaushal" <dineshkaus...@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners


> Well, independent living skills and attitudes are interrelated.
>
> Family members would be opposed due to 2 factors. 1. Due to genuine 
> concern that whether a couple with same disability would be able to manage 
> or not. 2. Due to another valid concern that a disabled couple might start 
> depending on them for their daily needs.
>
> Unless people with disabilities become independent, they cannot hope to be 
> able to make decisions for their life. Well, there is another problem 
> which I cannot address here, that Indian parents often do not allow their 
> children to make their decision anyways.
>
> The most important skill is mobility skill. For example, it is not 
> blindness that prevents blind persons to be able to independently move 
> around, but it is lack of training in mobility and orientation skills. 
> During my student life, my parents didn't allow me to travel alone, but 
> that limited my skill development in independent living. Once I realized 
> it is not going to work out, I had to insist that I will travel alone. If 
> I didn't take that step, later my parents would have thought that I would 
> not able to manage on my own. I have seen too many examples of blind 
> persons depending on others for mobility. It is ok to ask for directions 
> or assistance for new places, but if you need assistance for the same 
> place for years or months, then you need to think whether you have made 
> enough effort to become independent. It is important to note that we often 
> ask what society does for us without pausing to reflect how much we limit 
> ourselves without challenging our own limitations. While I am on the topic 
> of independent mobility I would also caution reckless behavior. For 
> example trying to cross a busy road might not be a wise idea. Often I had 
> to wait for 10 or 15 minutes near my college as the traffic was too heavy.
>
> Another very important skill is how to seek help. For new places, you 
> cannot always go with someone whom you trust. So it is important that you 
> feel ok to ask for help. It is also important to have confidence that you 
> will manage when you face the problem. I remember when I started to trave

Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Well, independent living skills and attitudes are interrelated.

Family members would be opposed due to 2 factors. 1. Due to genuine concern 
that whether a couple with same disability would be able to manage or not. 2. 
Due to another valid concern that a disabled couple might start depending on 
them for their daily needs.

Unless people with disabilities become independent, they cannot hope to be able 
to make decisions for their life. Well, there is another problem which I cannot 
address here, that Indian parents often do not allow their children to make 
their decision anyways.

The most important skill is mobility skill. For example, it is not blindness 
that prevents blind persons to be able to independently move around, but it is 
lack of training in mobility and orientation skills. During my student life, my 
parents didn't allow me to travel alone, but that limited my skill development 
in independent living. Once I realized it is not going to work out, I had to 
insist that I will travel alone. If I didn't take that step, later my parents 
would have thought that I would not able to manage on my own. I have seen too 
many examples of blind persons depending on others for mobility. It is ok to 
ask for directions or assistance for new places, but if you need assistance for 
the same place for years or months, then you need to think whether you have 
made enough effort to become independent. It is important to note that we often 
ask what society does for us without pausing to reflect how much we limit 
ourselves without challenging our own limitations. While I am o
 n the topic of independent mobility I would also caution reckless behavior. 
For example trying to cross a busy road might not be a wise idea. Often I had 
to wait for 10 or 15 minutes near my college as the traffic was too heavy.
 
Another very important skill is how to seek help. For new places, you cannot 
always go with someone whom you trust. So it is important that you feel ok to 
ask for help. It is also important to have confidence that you will manage when 
you face the problem. I remember when I started to travel independently, I 
tried to think all possible problems that I would face. But this paralyzed me 
and I would avoid to go out. but when I decided to take things as they come, I 
felt easy to start and after solving some challenges I got more confidence that 
I can travel alone.

I still face challenges, but they are no longer a significant one to prevent me 
in dealing with daily life issues.

I can't say too much about cooking as my skills are limited to heating up food 
and occasionally making things such as Maggie. But I know my friends Payal 
Kapoor, Veena  Mehta and Pranay Gadodia, and my wife Madhu Bala Sharma who are 
able to cook as good as any sighted person. So I can conclude that cooking is 
not a problem of blindness, though  it could be a good excuse if you don't want 
to do it.

If you can afford, cooking can also be managed by hiring someone to do it for 
you.

At the end if you can demonstrate that you can manage with or without paid or 
unpaid help, your family members would trust you. While we are on the issue of 
help, remember you need to have broad set of people whom you can depend for 
help. Like you, everyone else also has their own life so  don't expect people 
to help you all the time. 

At the end, action speaks louder than words, so if you can demonstrate that you 
can live independently, you have better chance of convincing your parents.

 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 11:10 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

Realistic solutions aminate from experience. Families will have to be
convinced to accept the couple and things will be normal within weeks
and months. One could take their parants to one's friends who are apt
at living independently and cooking with their families. Remember, not
only disability but caste, region and religion are still major
barriers which cause tsunami in the love-life of consenting couples.
Normally, No parants of blind people want them to marry a blind
girl/boy, but we will have to convince them if we desire. Tensions
might occur but things get settled as we choose the path. Parants
should be convinced that its me who is gonna spend life with my
partner not you. So continue to shower blessings and accept us.
On 2/7/17, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am sure some of you would have faced the issue of convincing either of the
> family where parents just do not wish to consider a potential match purely
> because in their opinion, people with blindness are incapacitated to be a
> couple and independent living with family support is the only way out.
>
> 

Re: [AI] Its 25th Jan today: Kaabil movie review: Hrithik Roshan is out for revenge

[Dinesh Kaushal]

I once listened to a program in which capacity of hearing impaired persons to 
understand sounds through body sensations was explored.

And many who rely on ears for sound do not experience the same. So this could 
be similar for sight.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 11:26 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Its 25th Jan today: Kaabil movie review: Hrithik Roshan is 
out for revenge

Significance of sound and smell has been highlighted time and again, often 
unrealistically, in society as a sixth sense.
It is also subjective and individual differences prevail.
We have to rely exclusively on non-visual stimuli, but capacities do differ 
here also, and let them not assume that we all are super sharp in this.
However, it is a tragedy, for sighted that they care a damn about non-visual 
stimuli.
Maybe, vision is too much dynamic for them to make them realize importance of 
non-visual world.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 10:49 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Its 25th Jan today: Kaabil movie review: Hrithik Roshan is 
out for revenge

Kaabil's contribution: Just think for a minute: from Samosa to chicken
smell differs and we can easily identify the items. and from cycle to
aeroplane the sound varries and totally blind can easily identify the
vehicle. Its a different thing that sighted people don't give dam
about it. The significance of smell and sound is as powerful as sight
for sighted people. And movie shows it well.

On 2/2/17, Sruti disAbility Rights Centre  wrote:
> Avinash,
>
>  There had been quite a few Hindi movies where they showed marriage or love
> life of blind people.
>
>  I am not talking about Sparsh which was an extraordinary movie but
> mainstream movies like Anuraag or Barsat Ki Ek Raat. Kaabil is not the
> first one to show this. There was also a film called Dusmaan where Sanjay
> Dutt played role of a blind person who took revenge.
>
>  And as far as blind women are concerned, they are anyway thought as
> vulnerable and therefore abuse happens more. In our country police refuse
> to take FIR for most of the rape cases, disabled or not. I am talking from
> experience of working for womens rights issues for last 30 yrs. There are
> hundreds of instances of same.
>
> I really do not know in what way Kaabil is showing something new. I would
> be happy to learn more from others in this list.
>
> Regards
> Shampa Sengupta
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 6:06 PM, avinash shahi 
> wrote:
>
>> I feel that the movie ‘kaabil’ has not received a fair review which it
>> deserves. The routine film-reviewers are perhaps not in tune to
>> disability studies and its varying lenses to judging a movie. In a
>> country such as ours where a blind couple is a myth to many who
>> connect disability as akin to asexuality; ‘kaabil’ offers them a
>> shock. Then you have myth about disabled people are not eligible
>> marriage candidates; the movie rebuffs such misconception by reall
>> portrayal of Rohan and Supriya as confident and independent couple who
>> are working and are good at household chores. Then there is another
>> myth that its impossible that a disabled woman could ever be raped.
>> The movie challenges this false belief and makes it clear that
>> disabled woman are at greater risk of being harassed not only by
>> people but by those who are supposed to protect them from brutal rape
>> incedents and harassment. The lacuna which exists in the legal system
>> which favours powerful criminals disproportionately is a stark
>> reminder of how police discriminates against the most vulnerable such
>> as disabled woman when she goes to register an FIR in rape case. Then
>> many of my friends have opined that the movie doesn’t talk of
>> assistive technology which is the lifeline of blind people of late. I
>> feel that we shouldn’t expect too much from a movie which is dubbed
>> from American film ‘blind fury’. The acting of Hrithik and Yami is
>> superb. the sense of smell and hearing have been shown as excellent
>> solutions to challenges which lack of eyesight mandates. Many other
>> friends maintain that the movie lacks gender sensitivity where Rohan
>> imposes his will on Su. I guess this is not unique to ‘kaabil’. Be it
>> Shah Rukh, Salman or Aamir or any other famous Bollywood actor the
>> films revolve around them and the opposite female actress conform to
>> the norm. The Bollywood is changing though. The movie ‘kaabil’ is a
>> break from the past which provokes thought-process in the conservative
>> Indian society and gives a 

Re: [AI] Budget 2017: Where is the Money to Implement the Disabilities Act?

[Dinesh Kaushal]

While I agree that the budget allocation seems really low, there is a flaw in 
the argument.
In first statement the writer says that allocation is .0039 percent of GDP, and 
in the second statement the writer says it is only .0039 percent of the budget. 
Note: these are not same. budget is around 1/6th of the GDP.

Considering estimated GDP for next year would be around 121 lakh crore, and 
assuming budget for disabilities is .0039 percent of the GDP, the allocation 
should be around 471  crores.

So percentages don't help, we need to know the exact amount. I suspect many of 
these expenses would be allocated to various departments for accessibility 
implementation.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 10:11 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Budget 2017: Where is the Money to Implement the Disabilities 
Act?

To the point analysis by Amba.

A Right without remedy, they say, is a teasing illusion.

A right without monetary backing, I say, is a torturing hallucination.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Shireen Irani
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 11:53 PM
To: accessindia; disability-studies-india
Subject: [AI] Budget 2017: Where is the Money to Implement the Disabilities Act?

Despite having passed the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act in
2016, the Budget allocated only about 0.0039% of the GDP for the
differently abled.
The Budget this year has hardly set aside any money for the rights of
persons with disability. The Budget this year has hardly set aside any
money for the rights of persons with disability.
Persons with disabilities and their families had many hopes resting on
the Budget speech. After all, the prime minister himself had made it
quite clear
that he held this sector close to his heart –
rechristening them divyang
 and even spending his birthday
distributing aids and appliances
 to them. The Sugamya Bharat Abhiyaan (Accessible India Campaign),
launched in 2015,
was said to be another highlight of this commitment. And finally,
with the passage
 of the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill – which brought the
ruling party and the opposition together ostensibly for the betterment
of the sector
– people with disabilities were led to believe that their lives would
change for the better.

Instead, all that the sector got were some references in opening lines
of the Budget speech regarding the ‘poor and underprivileged’ sections
of society
– “Sabka saath sabka vikas (everyone together, everyone progressing).
Despite the government’s efforts, they still left this significant
population behind.

The only mention this sector finds is in the reference to making of
500 railway stations ‘differently abled friendly by providing lifts
and escalators’.
The
Accessible India Campaign,
however, had already taken up this task. Accessibility is much beyond
merely lifts and escalators – the latter not being helpful for most
persons with
disabilities. Specifically, targets were set to ensure that A1 and A
and B category railway stations are converted into fully accessible
railway stations
by July 2016, and 50% of all railway stations ought to be converted
into fully accessible ones by March 2018.

In fact, the funding for this does not fall within the railway budget
– the Rs 193 crores which
were claimed
 to be ‘exclusively’ for the Accessible India Campaign is budgeted
expenditure for 2016-17 under the existing
Scheme for Implementation of the Persons with Disabilities Act
 (SIPDA), which is available for any entity obliged to make their
infrastructure accessible under the Act. As pointed out in an
analysis
 by the Equals Centre for Promotion of Social Justice, allocating this
fund to the Accessible India Campaign is retrogressive as it limits
the government
efforts towards providing accessibility to infrastructure and services
in a limited number of cities, particularly considering that 69.5% of
the disabled
population reside in rural areas. Also, lest we forget, without
rolling stock that is universally designed, persons with disabilities
aren’t going to go
very far. There is no mention of this, nor is there any report on the
commitment of the previous year’s railway budget promise of ‘
divyang friendly toilets
‘ at railway stations.

The
demand for grants
 by the Department for the Empowerment of Persons with Disabilities
has shown a 9% increase, with most of the expenditure allotted for
institutions old
and new; only 41% of the expenditure will actually go into demand
driven schemes for the welfare of persons with disabilities, even
though the new law
expands the number of impairments included under such schemes from
seven to 19. The Accessible India Campaign and progress therein was
absent from the

Re: [AI] how to educate railway [passengers?

[Dinesh Kaushal]

We would all have different opinions. In general I would not like to put such a 
board, but your situation is different.

So I would suggest putting up the board as an experiment and see if that makes 
the difference. Also let your manager know in advance that if you don't like 
the results due to any reason you would remove it. Important thing is to keep 
the decision in your hand.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:09 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] how to educate railway [passengers?

Just think about  it a little more sazid. I don't like the thought of the
signboard. You could ask one of your sighted friends to observe you and make
suggestions on how to tackle the situation. Eye contact is easier if you can
follow the voice of the other person and also you should measure the hole
through which you have to speak in the window. 
Your situation I know is different but 
I lost sight late in life. Lots of old friends did not realise that I had
become blind because for one reason or another I had not met them during the
transition from sight to blindness. Some of them would suddenly come up to
me and I would look through them. Only when I heard their voice, would I
react. I lost one friend but others stayed with me. When this one individual
came up to me and said hi I ignored him because  I could not recognise his
voice, he was very upset and  actually told his friend that he knew me and
he wasn't trying to make a new acquaintance and was surprised that I had
given him such a cold reception.  Before I could explain he walked off.
That's when I thought to myself- do I require to wear a signboard on my back
to tell the world I have become blind? 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of sazid shaik
Sent: 31 January 2017 11:38
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] how to educate railway [passengers?

dear friend, as there will be no time to ask and to respond with them.
another thing is that the tendency of passenger will be in complaint nature
this is universal.  i am not talking about all passengers but few will argue
why blind was posted here.  in my counter actually platform ticket has to be
issued but i was exempted from this duty.
people will stand infront of me they think that they are watching by me but
i cannot see them i will be silent after a while he/she will ask platform
ticket when i tell them that the tickets will be issued on next counter they
will get angry and shout on me.  they do not listen a single word.  to avoid
this type of bitter taste i think so that sign boards are essential.  please
correct me dear friends.

sazid

On 1/31/17, Srinivasu Chakravarthula  wrote:
> Sazid,
> Me being a person with low vision, I may not be perfect to talk from 
> prospective of person with total blindness. But I believe, you may be 
> able to develop eye contact (if not accurately) to passenger from their
voice.
> One reason I discourage about sign boards etc., is that it's general 
> tenancy that when they see such a signage, they may try to avoid and 
> use another counter. Also, as long as you are able to provide them 
> information, they may not really care about your eye contact; but yes, 
> eye contact would be essential as there would be many passengers and 
> they would want to know who are you addressing. Other way would be 
> quickly ask for their name while you are looking up for information 
> that they needed, this way you can respond with their name as Mr. 
> Srinivasu etc.,
>
> This would be one way to raise awareness too.
>
> Good luck,
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
> Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com
>
> Let's create an inclusive web!
>
> Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica Hon. Joint Secretary, The 
> National Association for the Blind, Karnataka Branch
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:44 AM, sazid shaik 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear list,
>> As you know that I am working in railway enquiry counter in which i 
>> has to interact with many passengerss.  Yesterday as my routine work 
>> is contiuned one of our headwaters  officer observed me and told to 
>> my section supervisor that i am not making eye contact with the 
>> passenger.  After my supervisor told him that I am a visually 
>> challenged person he asked to keep any sign board stating that this 
>> counter is unning by a blind.  In my view he is correct many of times 
>> many passengers complaint the same with me when i told the fact they 
>> regretted.  hence i request you how should i keep a sign board and 
>> what should 

Re: [AI] regarding dating groups

[Dinesh Kaushal]

I don't understand how this is related to technology?

May be a separate mailing list for Visually impaired dating would do?

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Lokesh Naik
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 6:03 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] regarding dating groups

Hi friends, this is Lokesh from dating groups from Bangalore. Now, i
am going to say about dating and other relationships friends. Please,
dont hesitate to read please and tell me about your thoughts and views
regarding dating and other relationships. Actually, in this world, we
kind of people are simply suppressing or hiding our feelings and
freedom because due to our disability. In this society, lots of
non-disable people are enjoying their life with lots of fun and
others, but we are not ready to do so why?? Due to our disability,
we are lacking our pleasure and happiness. Please think once friends,
why shouldn't we enjoy our life with lots of fun and pleasure so
please come out from your sadness and feeling depression in your life.
Friends, dating means may be you people are thinking about dating
means bad in Indian culture. Actually, this is true friendship in
life. Dating means not only for marriage purpose. Here, we can get
lots of different people for different views and opinions. Actually,
you people are thinking dating is only menti for physical contact, but
not like this. after joining dating groups means we can get friends
for sharing our sorrow, happiness, love towards others, sharing our
knowledge to others, care taking ness, coping skills, how to deal with
different people in the society, how to be calm, how to live in peace,
and others. So think it once friends. Actually, in our community, lots
of highly educated girls/ladies are here.  They are working in a
different sectors, but they are all not enjoying their life with full
happiness in life with their work.  Actually, girls/ladies are also
human beings so they also needs some change in the life. Daily going
to the work and coming back to the home is this only in life girls
Girls you are all may be thinking dating is very bad because it may
affect to your life!!!  But this is not like this friends. Here if you
come to the dating groups you may feel oh how nice this is. Because
you people may get some solutions for your problems. In Dating, you
may get your best friend in your life for sharing your whole ideas, or
you may get ears to listen your inner feelings, or eyes to see your
beauty, or hands to hold you.  You wont share somethings to your
parents due to some problems, but here you can get your best friend to
listen or taking care of you, or good sense of humor, or best lover,
or your well-wisher.  Actually in dating, you may get some friends
only for chatt, or phonefriend to sharing their all kinds of feelings
and other relationships.  In dating, According to your wish, girls you
can choose your friends for your wish. In dating here, hello
girls/ladies without your permission, there is no force without your
consent for any kind of relationships.  So don’t hesitate to come to
this circle girls/ladies. Please do come and enjoy your life with lots
of fun and happiness.
In dating, sighted people they are not ready to mingle with we kind of
disables because they are hesitating to mix with disables due to
feeling how they will think. Actually, some sighted people are
thinking about VI and other disable girls/ladies are not ready to do
any kind of timepass things or other things in life because sighted
people thinks that we kind of people may think sighted people may do
wrong towards us. Actually, while coming to dating groups, we are all
disables so somewhat we are very easy and free to mingle with we kind
of people. Here, we wont think that about things may go wrong. Here,
there are no sighted people. Here, we are only disables so don’t
hesitate to join friends, especially ladies/girls be bold and be happy
and lead your life with full of happiness and plenty of pleasure. In
this group, we are not doing party all the days but monthly once we
are planning to do party and social meetings face to face. So it is
not effecting for your daily routine work friends. Come to this
meetings monthly once on weekends so please, please join all the
girls/ladies and gentlemen. For further information please contact me
at lokesh.kk...@gmail.com
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[AI] RPD Bill with amendments applied for SKILL DEVELOPMENT AND EMPLOYMENT

[Dinesh Kaushal]

I have tried to apply suggested amendments for the 2014 bill only For chapter 
IV SKILL DEVELOPMENT AND EMPLOYMENT. 

What I understand is some of the rules do not apply for private establishments. 
So Non-discrimination in employment (section 19) and Appointment of Grievance 
Redressal Officer (section 22) seems to be only for government establishments 
and Equal opportunity policy (section 20) and Maintenance of records (section 
21) applies for government and private establishments. This also seems to 
indicate that private establishments should have equal opportunity policy 
similar to the section 19, but it seems government is not yet ready to enforce 
that.

This copy is not for anyone's reference, it is only for better clarity until we 
get the real copy. I have tried to apply the amendments from OCR copy in which 
there are suggestions to modify various line numbers. These line numbers are 
best of my guesses. I hope government could switch to tracking method found in 
word processors!

2. Definitions
 (H)
(Ii) "establishment" includes a Government establishment and private   
establishment;. 
  (ia) "Government establishment" means a corporation established by or under a 
Central Act or State Act or an authority or a body owned or controlled or aided 
by the Government or a local authority or a Government company as defined in 
section 2 of the Companies Act, 2013 and includes a Department of the 
Government;. 

CHAPTER IV
SKILL DEVELOPMENT AND EMPLOYMENT

18. Vocational training and self employment
(1) The appropriate Government shall formulate schemes and programmes including
provision of loans at concessional rates to facilitate and support employment 
of persons
with disabilities especially for their vocational training and self-employment.
  "(2) The schemes and programmes referred to in sub-section (1) 
provide for— 
inclusion of person with disability in all mainstream formal and non-formal 
vocational and skill training schemes and programme 
  to ensure that a person with disability has adequate support and facilities 
to avail specific training; 
  exclusive skill training programmes for persons with disabilities with active 
links with the market, for those with developmental, intellectual, 
  multiple disabilities and autism; 
  loans at concessional rates including that of microcredit, 
  marketing the products made by persons with disabilities; and 
  maintenance of disaggregated data on the progress made itt the skill training 
and self-employment, including persons with disabilities'.

19. Non-discrimination in employment. 
(1) No Government establishment shall discriminate against any person with 
disability in any Non-matter relating to employment:discrimination in 
Provided that the appropriate Government may, having regard to the type of work 
employment. carried on in any establishment, by notification and subject
to such conditions, if any, exempt any establishment from the provisions of 
this section. 
  (2) Every Government establishment shall provide reasonable accommodation and 
appropriate barrier free and conducive environment to employees with 
disability. 
(3)
No promotion shall be denied to a person merely on the ground of disability. 
(4)
No Government establishment shall dispense with or reduce in rank, an employee 
who acquires a disability during his or her service: 
Provided that, if an employee after acquiring disability is not suitable for 
the post he was holding, shall be shifted to some other post with the same
pay scale and service benefits: 
Provided further that if it is not possible to adjust the employee against any 
post, he may be kept on a supernumerary post until a suitable post is available
or he attains the age of superannuation, whichever is earlier. 
  (5) The appropriate Government may frame policies or postin and transfer of 
employees with disabilities.. 

20. Equal opportunity policy. 
(1) Every establishment shall notify equal opportunity policy detailing 
measures Equal 
proposed to be taken by it in pursuance of the provisions of this Chapter in 
the manner as opportunity policy. 
may be prescribed by the Central Government.
(2)
Every establishment shall register a copy of the said policy with the Chief 
Commissioner or state Commissioner, as the case may be.

21. Maintenance of records. 
(1) Every establishment shall maintain records of the persons with disabilities 
in Maintenance relation to the matter of employment, facilities provided
and other necessary information in of records. compliance with the provisions 
of this Chapter in such form and manner as may be prescribed by the Central
Government. 
(2)
Every employment exchange shall maintain records of persons with disabilities 
seeking employment. 
(3)
The records maintained under sub-section (1) shall be open to inspection at all 
reasonable hours by such persons as may be authorised in their behalf by
the appropriate Government. 

22. Appointment of Grievance Redressal 

[AI] Accessible copy of RPD Bill

[Dinesh Kaushal]

I have been trying to figure out what is there in the bill. I looked at the
2014 bill in pdf, but that is not accessible. By accessible I mean the
sequence of text is not in the right order. 

For someone that could be considered accessible, but it is not as it
confuses at many places. For example various section titles are readable at
one place then you read section numbers where the section text is available.


Can anyone point me to the properly accessible copy?

It is interesting to read that the bill provides for making information
accessible, and many government offices would try to follow it, but I don't
know who would be the competent authority to validate it? there is a huge
learning curve to figure out all the nuances of properly accessible content.
 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of li...@srinivasu.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:47 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. 
Cc: disability-studies-india 
Subject: Re: [AI] Who said what on RPD Bill in the Rajya Sabha today

Bill has been passed. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone

> On 14-Dec-2016, at 14:14, "li...@srinivasu.org" 
wrote:
> 
> Yes indeed. 
> 
> Though it appears there is not really any discussion. 
> 
> Anyway, let it get it passed:-) 
> 
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14-Dec-2016, at 12:58, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>> 
>> I am delighted at the point that thebill is being discussed.
>> 
>> Ketan
>> 
>>> On 12/14/16, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> The house is adjourned till 2:00pm
>>> Rajya Sabha | 11.45 a.m.
>>> 
>>> Discussion on amendments to the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill
>>> begins.
>>> 
>>> "Remove the clause that this does not apply to posts that require
>>> people who aren't disabled," says Sitaram Yechury. Minister ensures
>>> that Rules will make sure that this is diluted. Clause by clause
>>> consideration continues.
>>> 
>>> "Reservation should be based on cadre strength, not on number of
>>> vacancies meant to be filled," says Mr. yechury. Mr. Gehlot says he
>>> will try to ensure this in the Rules. The rest of the amendments will
>>> be taken up at 2 p.m. says the Chair.
>>> 
>>> Rajya Sabha | 11.30 a.m.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The House takes up the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill, moved
>>> by Thaawar Chand Gehlot. "59 suggestions from standing commitee have
>>> been accepted. The number of categories of disabled are to be
>>> increased for physical as well as mental disabilities. I thank House
>>> for agreeing to pass it even without discussion," says Mr. Gehlot.
>>> 
>>> "We are fulfilling a national and global commitment. I myself have
>>> lived with a locomotive disability," says Karan Singh. "People should
>>> realise that the disabled need to be treated with special courtesy."
>>> 
>>> Naresh Agrawal says, "Simplify the definition of disabled. It should
>>> be easier to attain the certificate. I support the Bill."
>>> 
>>> Nadimul Haque of the Trinamool Congress, "We welcome the number of
>>> disabled categories being increased from seven to 21. We support the
>>> Bill."
>>> 
>>> C.P. Narayanan of the CPI(M) says, "Though the conditions of the Bill
>>> are good, government seems to have brought in clauses that may curtail
>>> the rights of the disabled. That is my fear."
>>> 
>>> Narendra Kumar Swain of the BJD says he supports the Bill. Satish
>>> Mishra of the BSP says that the term should be "differently abled" and
>>> not "disabled." The Mayawati government in UP, he says, was the first
>>> to give 50 per cent reservation for persons with disabilities at
>>> Shakuntala Mishra University. He supports the Bill.
>>> 
>>> Vijaysai Reddy of the YSR Congress says reservation should be
>>> increased to five per cent from four per cent.
>>> 
>>> Mr. Gehlot replies that 12,672 of 15,691 vacancies for persons with
>>> disabilities have been filled since 2014. "We are making universal
>>> identity cards for them. They will get their rights. We have given
>>> four per cent reservation, up from three per cent."
>>> 
>>> Clause by clause consideration of the Bill begins.
>>>
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/Rajya-Sabha-takes-up-Disabilities-Bill
/article16803919.ece
>>> Rajya Sabha | 11.15 a.m.
>>> --
>>> Avinash Shahi
>>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>>> 
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Re: [AI] RPD Bill

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Cool!

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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:07 PM
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the disabled.' 
Subject: [AI] RPD Bill

Passed in Rajya Sabha  a few minutes ago without discussion. 

Now to the Lok Sabha. 

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Re: [AI] News of Interest: Visually challenged girl ‘marries’ Lord Krishna in MP’s Tikamgarh district

[Dinesh Kaushal]

I am sorry, but is this topic relevant for this group?


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Naresh Kumar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:07 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] News of Interest: Visually challenged girl ‘marries’ Lord 
Krishna in MP’s Tikamgarh district

Good Vamshi,
Though Marrying someone by choice should always be respected as the
right of an individual yet marrying a deity, and that too, by a
disabled woman is something quite different. It really needs to be
pondered seriously. Let alone the question of disability, a girl can
marry Lord Krishna or Shiva or anyone but have we ever heard a male
marrying a Goddess? Religion shaping masculinity/femininity and
disability should be looked upon as a sociological and psychological
thing. These are my instant reactions; if anything comes to my mind
then I will keep following the thread.
Cheers
Naresh

On 12/13/16, Vamshi. G  wrote:
> With marriage for disabled presenting its own difficulties, is this
> what people started resorting to?   And, as said by Rajesh sir, this
> is manifestation of disabled being termed as Divyang.  Well, when a
> male SP of police department in Mathura claims he is Radha (lover of
> Krishna), a female wishing to marry Krishna is not too surprising,
> whether or not disabled.  I really wish sanety prevails in this world!
>
> On 12/13/16, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>> She is truly a divyang.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 11:02 AM
>> To: accessindia; jnuvision
>> Subject: [AI] News of Interest: Visually challenged girl ‘marries’ Lord
>> Krishna in MP’s Tikamgarh district
>>
>> A 22-year-old visually challenged girl, who has been a staunch devotee
>> of Krishna since childhood, married an idol of the Hindu god at a
>> village in Tikamgarh district on Sunday.
>> http://www.hindustantimes.com/bhopal/visually-challenged-girl-marries-lord-krishna-in-mp-s-tikamgarh-dist/story-DmycTWQHPodJNriM2RhaaJ.html
>> Shalini’s ‘marriage’ was solemnised according to Bundelkhandi
>> traditions. The marriage procession reached the bride’s home in Digoda
>> village, where the ceremony was performed.
>>
>> According to locals, Shalini has been reading religious scriptures
>> such as Ramayana, Bhagwat Geeta and playing musical instruments since
>> childhood. The villagers pay a lot of respect to the woman, as they
>> believe she possesses some supernatural power.
>>
>> Shalini’s father Munnalal Bidua, a teacher, told HT that he has two
>> sons and two daughters. Shalini is visually challenged since birth.
>> She expressed her desire to marry ‘Lord Krishna’ recently. The parents
>> didn’t disappoint her and consulted a priest to fulfil the desire of
>> their daughter.
>>
>> The marriage was scheduled for December 4, as according to Hindu
>> calendar it happens to be ‘Vivah Panchmi’. On Saturday, the marriage
>> rituals like menhdi and sangeet were held. On Sunday, the marriage
>> procession (baraat) was taken out from a temple with Lord Krishna’s
>> Laddu Gopal form as the bridegroom. After the marriage, the bride has
>> plans to continue living at her present home, where she has a separate
>> room converted into a temple.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>>
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Re: [AI] Income tax Efiling accessibility update

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Awesome job asif!

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Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 4:49 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.' 
Subject: [AI] Income tax Efiling accessibility update

Dear all,
In continuation to our mission of being accessible change agent; wanted to
take this opportunity to briefly update you all on last meeting at Bangalore
with income tax of Central Processing unit.

1.They saw the demonstration of assistive technology .

2.   2.  Individual return is almost accessible.  Audio capcha can not
be used by IE but it can be use by other brouser such as firefox, chrone,
etc.

3.   3.  They will be working on other forms and they are targeting
April 2017 to make the site completely accessible.

I also had a meeting with Mr. Pramod Barma , chief architect of Aadhaar and
now Unified payment interphase which is new channel of payment to merchants
and it is being highly encouraged by Central government.  They have assured
hat they would make this UPI both Android/ IOS app accessible.  He also was
kind enough to offer his assistance to connect with Paytm founder and will
keep you posted on this initiative.
Requesting all of you to tap your network and let's lobby for accessibility
and let's speak up for ourself and work diligently to achieve accessible
India.
Thanks and kind regards
Asif


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Re: [AI] Update on Sugamya Pustakalaya

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Prashan Sir,

Had soft to you and the entire team of Sugamya Pustakalaya For such
commendable work!
Sugamya Pustakalaya is great and it will become better as time goes by.
All the best to the entire team!

Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
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Sent: 02 September 2016 14:05
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Subject: Re: [AI] Update on Sugamya Pustakalaya

that is fantastic.
a mobile app is required.
or may be the website may be used via the go read app by bookshare

On 9/2/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma <prashant...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We are getting unprecedented response to Sugamya Pustakalaya. Hundreds 
> of membership applications have been submitted already. Please take 
> note of the following points in the context of Sugamya Pustakalaya.
>
> 1.   As it happens with something this big and something so new, some
> issues have been detected with the portal. They are being fixed as 
> soon as possible. So, please do report problems and help us with your 
> patience. The TCS and DFI team is doing its best to make this portal 
> easy to use and robust.
>
>
>
> 2.   Do not judge the usefulness of Sugamya Pustakalaya  on the basis
> of
> number of books available presently. Remember that it has just been 
> launched and it is from now on that more and more books will be 
> uploaded. NGOs all over India have thousands of books in DAISY, MP3 
> and other formats. They
> have made a commitment to   upload it at the earliest.
>
>
>
> 3.   Please choose your nearest library when you are registering on
> Sugamya Pustakalaya.  You should preferably choose the organization  
> of which you are already a member. And remember that once your 
> membership is approved, you will be able to download all books from all
organizations.
>
>
>
> 4.   You just read about the fantastic work being done by Bookshare in
> adding titles from India. Just a reminder that you can get all those 
> books even through the Sugamya Pustakalaya website. When you search in 
> Sugamya Pustakalaya  you  see results not only from Bookshare 
> collection but also from DFI members organizations. Therefore, the 
> chances of finding your required book increases and you may also get 
> to know books similar to your searched title.
>
>
>
> 5.   Please read the Getting Started and FAQ pages on the Sugamya
> Pustakalaya website. It will most probably answer your questions. If 
> not, please use the phone number or email on the contact us page  to 
> send your queries.
>
>
>
> 6.   And the best of Sugamya Pustakalaya  is yet to come. Soon it will
> be connected to mobile apps. And you will be able to get several 
> magazines from it.
>
>
>
> To open Sugamya Pustakalaya website go to:
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Re: [AI] PD Role Model requirement in the training

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

 

I am told that even visually impaired purson is fine.

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.

From: Dinesh thole [mailto:dineshth...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 05 August 2016 13:38
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. (accessindia@accessindia.org.in)
Subject: FW: PD Role Model requirement in the training

 

Hello Friends,

 

Please see the below email.

If you know any physically challenged person(Non visually impaired) in Pune,  
please contact Sanjay Kumar on 07897307308.

 

Thanks and Regards.

 

Dinesh Thole.

From: Sanjay Kumar [mailto:san...@enable-india.org] 
Sent: 05 August 2016 12:07
To: dineshth...@gmail.com
Cc: Santosh Kumar; shibu T L
Subject: PD Role Model requirement in the training

 

Dear Dinesh Ji,

 

As we discussed over phone, I'd like to share expectation from Role Model.

 

*   A person with physical disability who has been trained by EnAble India 
and has some work experience.
*   Expect 1 or 2 hours time for one day only.
*   Share self journey of life, challenges faced due to disability and how 
overcame.
*   Need to interact with the candidates who are undergoing employability 
training and share work experience, how training was helpful, Corporate 
culture/ethics, Skills & Attitude required for job.
*   Encourage candidates and give them real world exposure feeling. 

Request you to try to get someone and let me know  ASAP.

 

Feel free to call me anytime. 

 

Training Venue:

 

RUDSET Institute

Varale Road , Near Eagle Agro Farm,

TALEGAON DABHADE,

Pune

 

Thanks & Regards,


Sanjay Kumar

 

Programme Officer - Employability

 

EnAble India

To empower people with disabilities.
Tel/Fax: 080 67323636, Cell: +91(0)7897307308
Web:  www.enable-india.org <http://www.enable-india.org/>   
"We are Accredited By Credibility Alliance Under Desirable Norms"


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[AI] FW: PD Role Model requirement in the training

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

 

Please see the below email.

If you know any physically challenged person(Non visually impaired) in Pune,  
please contact Sanjay Kumar on 07897307308.

 

Thanks and Regards.

 

Dinesh Thole.

From: Sanjay Kumar [mailto:san...@enable-india.org] 
Sent: 05 August 2016 12:07
To: dineshth...@gmail.com
Cc: Santosh Kumar; shibu T L
Subject: PD Role Model requirement in the training

 

Dear Dinesh Ji,

 

As we discussed over phone, I'd like to share expectation from Role Model.

 

*   A person with physical disability who has been trained by EnAble India 
and has some work experience.
*   Expect 1 or 2 hours time for one day only.
*   Share self journey of life, challenges faced due to disability and how 
overcame.
*   Need to interact with the candidates who are undergoing employability 
training and share work experience, how training was helpful, Corporate 
culture/ethics, Skills & Attitude required for job.
*   Encourage candidates and give them real world exposure feeling. 

Request you to try to get someone and let me know  ASAP.

 

Feel free to call me anytime. 

 

Training Venue:

 

RUDSET Institute

Varale Road , Near Eagle Agro Farm,

TALEGAON DABHADE,

Pune

 

Thanks & Regards,


Sanjay Kumar

 

Programme Officer - Employability

 

EnAble India

To empower people with disabilities.
Tel/Fax: 080 67323636, Cell: +91(0)7897307308
Web:  www.enable-india.org <http://www.enable-india.org/>   
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Re: [AI] configaration of Email ID in outlook

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Sir,

It is pop.gmail.com and Smtp.gmail.com
Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: 30 July 2016 15:37
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] configaration of Email ID in outlook

Navin,

For gmail what are the pop3 and the smtp servers?

Thanks,

George

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Navin Kumar Gohil
Sent: 30 July 2016 12:40
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] configaration of Email ID in outlook

Hi Sonu,

What specific information you need? Pls clarify.
What problem you are facing? Pls send error message if any.

Kindly get in touch with me on my email id : navingohil19...@gmail.com  for
further solution.

If you mention/clarify specific problem, I think I can assist with solution.

Regards
Navin

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Sonu Golkar
Sent: 29 July, 2016 2:31 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] configaration of Email ID in outlook

Hi,

Thanks very much for this information, but I want specific information about
the configuration about mail4india account. I am facing difficulty to
configure my mail4india Email ID.

Thank you

Regards

Sonu



On 7/29/16, Navin Kumar Gohil <navingohil19...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sonu,
>
> Before you start configuring Outlook, you must keep following
informations
> handy :
>
> 1. Email id
> 2. Email password
> 3. Server type i.e. POP or IMAP.
> 4. Incoming/Outgoing server addresses.
> 5. Incoming/Outcoming port details.
>
> Once you have above details, you can configure Outlook easily.
>
> Below is the method for configuring Gmail with Outlook, you can follow 
> similar for other email IDs as well :
>
> +
> Configuring the Outook Gmail settings.
> You can configure Outlook to handle your Gmail account as a POP3 or as 
> an IMAP account. Depending on your choice, you have to enable the 
> related account option in your Gmail account (Gmail Settings -> 
> Forwarding and POP/IMAP).
>
> .Below, we will detail how to setup Microsoft Office Outlook 2000 to 
> 2010 to send, receive and store email messages for a Gmail address. 
> Before
getting
> started, please make sure you know your Gmail email address and your
Gmail
> password.
> Start Outlook: from the main Outlook window, go to Tools -> Email
Accounts.
>
> On the Outlook popup window, select to "Add a new e-mail account" and
click
> on Next.
>
> On the server type step, select POP3 or IMAP (depending on your needs)
for
> the Outlook email account type, then click on Next. There is no need 
> to select the IMAP type, because the Gmail web based account will 
> anyway
keep
> a
> copy of all emails, just like an IMAP account would do.
>
> On the next screen, you will have to specify your Outlook Gmail 
> settings, such as your Gmail username and password, Gmail server 
> addresses, Gmail server ports and Outlook Gmail display name.
>
> .On the User Information section, enter your Name (it can be anything,
but
> remember this is going to be the name/text that people will see when 
> you will send them an email via your Outlook Gmail account) and your 
> Gmail email address.
>
> .On the Server Information section, enter the Google Gmail servers:
>
> POP Gmail servers for Outlook:
> - Incoming mail server: pop.gmail.com
> - Outgoing mail server: smtp.gmail.com.
>
> IMAP Gmail server for Outlook:
> - Incoming mail server: imap.gmail.com
> - Outgoing mail server: smtp.gmail.com.
>
> .On the Logon Information section, enter your Gmail User Name (which 
> is
the
> same as your Gmail email address) and your Gmail password. Tick the 
> box "Remember password" in order to make Outlook to store the Gmail 
> password, so it will not ask you about it every time when Outlook will 
> send/receive emails for the Gmail account.
>
> .Click on the "More Settings" button and go to the "Advanced" window tab.
>
> If you use Gmail as a POP Outlook account:
> - On the "Incoming server (POP3)" field, enter 995 and mark the box 
> "This server requires an encrypted connection (SSL)";
> - On the "Outgoing server (SMTP)" field, enter 465 and mark the box 
> "This server requires an encrypted connection (SSL)".
>
> If you use Gmail as an IMAP Outlook account:
> - On the "Incoming server (IMAP)" field, enter 993 and mark the 

[AI] Query regarding using different voice for say all command in JAWS 17.

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

 

I am using JAWS 17 along with eloquence and vocaliser expressive
synthesisers.

I want JAWS to switch to vocaliser when I use "say all" for reading.

I am unable to find this setting in the voice adjustment dialog.

Please guide me as to how I could configure the same.

 

Thanks and Regards.

 

Dinesh Thole.


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Re: [AI] Query regarding purchasing of 2 wheeler in the name of visually challenged person.

[Dinesh thole]

Thank you all for your guidance.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
deepak singla
Sent: 30 June 2016 14:24
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding purchasing of 2 wheeler in the name of 
visually challenged person.

Hello
one can buy the vehicle without any problems.

in addition, visually impaired persons are getting rebate while going for 
insurance of their vehicles!
its legally allowed by the insurance companies


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>
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> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding purchasing of 2 wheeler in the name 
> of visually challenged person.
>
> I do not think there is any restriction.
>
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> Sent: 30 June 2016 10:44
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> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: [AI] Query regarding purchasing of 2 wheeler in the name of 
> visually challenged person.
>
> Hello Friends,
>
>
>
> I want to know if a visually impaired person is permited to purchase a 
> 2 wheeler in his or her own name?
>
> Or are there any ristrictions?
>
> Are there any factors that a visually impaired person should keep in 
> mind while purchasing?
>
> Please guide.
>
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>
> Thanks and Regards.
>
>
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> Dinesh Thole.
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Re: [AI] Query regarding purchasing of 2 wheeler in the name of visually challenged person.

[Dinesh thole]

Thank you so much Nitin!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Nitin Dhaware
Sent: 30 June 2016 11:12
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding purchasing of 2 wheeler in the name of
visually challenged person.

Hey Dinu,

There is no restriction on buying 2 wheeler. We can surely buy and you no
need to do anything as an extra care. However, beware from agents if you're
transferring the vehicle which you have already. Agents ask lot of money for
this which is not required at all. Just fill form online and follow the
process.

Kind Regards,
Nitin


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> Hello Friends,
>
>
>
> I want to know if a visually impaired person is permited to purchase a 
> 2 wheeler in his or her own name?
>
> Or are there any ristrictions?
>
> Are there any factors that a visually impaired person should keep in 
> mind while purchasing?
>
> Please guide.
>
>
>
> Thanks and Regards.
>
>
>
> Dinesh Thole.
>
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[AI] Query regarding purchasing of 2 wheeler in the name of visually challenged person.

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

 

I want to know if a visually impaired person is permited to purchase a 2
wheeler in his or her own name?

Or are there any ristrictions?

Are there any factors that a visually impaired person should keep in mind
while purchasing?

Please guide.

 

Thanks and Regards.

 

Dinesh Thole.


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Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Sir,

Could you please share the amazon link for this product?
It is currently out of stock on flipkart.
I couldn't find it on amazon through google search.
Thanks and Regards.
Dinesh Thole.
-Original Message-
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Of Prashant Verma 
Sent: 24 June 2016 09:12
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: [AI] Talking weighing scale found

Hi all,
Just wanted to let you know that a mainstream product HEALTHSENSE PS 121  is
a good option for a talking weighing scale for the visually impaired. 
I have bought it online from Amazon and it is working properly.
It is listed on several online retailers at prices around Rs. 1000. At times
it goes out of stock. 

Just stand on it and it will tell your weight in a loud and clear voice. 

Best,
Prashant  


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Sent: 22 June 2016 23:08
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Imposition of tax exemption cap on purchase value of vehicles
used by disabled, not discriminatory: Kerala HC [Read Judgment]

http://www.livelaw.in/imposition-tax-exemption-cap-purchase-value-vehicles-u
sed-disabled-not-discriminatory-kerala-hc/

With best regards,
Sanchit Katiyar

EMail:

sanchitkatiya...@gmail.com

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Re: [AI] Query regarding buying LIC policy.

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

 

I am unable to find the circular regarding non charging of extra premium for
visually impaired.

Could anyone please share the link to download the same?

I couldn't find it on Eyeway.

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.

From: Dinesh thole [mailto:dineshth...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 22 June 2016 10:51
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. (accessindia@accessindia.org.in)
Subject: Query regarding buying LIC policy.

 

Hello Friends,

 

I am looking to buy LIC policy.

I am told that extra premium is charged for visually impaired persons.

I want to know if there is any circular regarding non charging of such extra
premium?

Also, what are the other factors should I keep in mind as a visually
impaired person while buying LIC policy?

Please provide your valuable guidance.

 

Thanks and Regards.

 

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[AI] Query regarding buying LIC policy.

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

 

I am looking to buy LIC policy.

I am told that extra premium is charged for visually impaired persons.

I want to know if there is any circular regarding non charging of such extra
premium?

Also, what are the other factors should I keep in mind as a visually
impaired person while buying LIC policy?

Please provide your valuable guidance.

 

Thanks and Regards.

 

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[AI] Configuring JAWS for using different voice for say all reading command.

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

 

I am using JAWS 17.

I want to configure JAWS to use different voice for say all command.

I have the Vocaliser voice installed which I want to use for say all.

However, in the voice adjustment dialog box, I don't see any option
regarding the say all.

Please let me know how I could configure the same.

 

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[AI] Request for recommendations for budget USB headset

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Friends,

 

I want to buy a USB plug and play headset for using on computer.

Please suggest which one  I should buy?

My max  budget is around  1500.

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Re: [AI] Webvisum.xpi needed

[Dinesh thole]

Hello,

It's working fine now.
Thanks a lot.

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Bikram
Sent: 22 December 2015 22:27
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Webvisum.xpi needed

Hi,

If you've followed the steps correctly, then Firefox should allow the
Webvisum Add-on to run. If not, then please provide the error message or
other such instructions if any. It might help me to have a detailed look at
the specific issue(s) that prevents you from using the add-on.

Please note that you need nothing to panic about the security vulnerability
caused by disabling that security feature. You are completely safe as long
as you do not install add-ons from untrusted sources. If you're uncertain
about any add-on or toolbar, Do not allow the installation of such stuffs
that come bundled with several third party applications. You might end up
installing such annoying applications if you keep on clicking "next" while
installing softwares without looking at the options to accept or reject the
optional components.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 1:59 PM, mukesh jain <mukesh.jai...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> hello,
> i have followed the instructions exactly  as mentioned in the mail and
> it worked like charm!
>
> so tuns of thanks,
>
>
> On 12/22/15, Dinesh thole <dineshth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have done as per your instructions.
> > However, firefox still doesn't allow to install XPI files.
> > I have also tried installing through open file option.
> > Please guide.
> >
> > Thanks and Regards.
> >
> > Dinesh Thole.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
> > Of Bikram
> > Sent: 21 December 2015 20:52
> > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> > the disabled.
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Webvisum.xpi needed
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > There is an option to override this security setting. In order to do so,
> > you
> > need to change that option through Firefox configuration editor. Please
> > note
> > that you should only proceed with the following steps if you assure
> > yourself
> > that you're not gonna make any unintended change/modification in the
> > configuration settings. Because accidental modification of the values of
> > these advanced settings can be harmful to the stability, security, and
> > performance of your browser. So, please do it at your own risk!
> > 1. Type "about:config" without the quotes in your browser address bar.
> > 2. Click on "I'll be careful, I promise" button.
> > 3. Type "xpinstall" without the quotes in the search box.
> > 4. Use the arrow keys to get the option called
> > "xpinstall.signatures.required".
> > 5. Press the application key to bring up the context menu options.
> > 6. Choose toggle from that menu and press enter. You would discover that
> > the
> > value is set to "false" which was initially "true".
> > 7. Restart Firefox in order for the changes to take effect.
> > 8. After implementing the change in the configuration settings as
> suggested
> > above, You could enable Webvisum again.
> > You can repeat the steps above to revert back to your default settings.
> In
> > that case, click "toggle" or "reset" to set this value to "true".
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:32 PM, gufran ahmed <
> gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> hi amar, if your firefox has been updated to v 43.0.1, then you will
> >> not be ale to use webvisum. because now mozzilla is only authorize
> >> those addons which are signed by mozilla team. hence we should wait
> >> for the webvisum to get it sign by mozilla or we should write to
> >> webvisum. i am also facing the same issue.
> >>
> >> On 12/21/15, Amar Jain <amarjain2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi List,
> >> >
> >> > Post upgrading to Windows 10, my Firefox reported that Webvisum is
> >> > not compatable hence disabled. In order to enable it, something went
> >> > wrong and it got uninstalled.
> >> >
> >> > Due to firewall limitations,, I am unable to re-install from the
> >> > server directly.  Greatful if someone can send the .xpi on my e-mail
> >> > id: amarjain2...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> &g

Re: [AI] railway ID card for differently abled not working

[Dinesh thole]

Ok Sir, I shal call you.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rohiet A. Patil
Sent: 21 December 2015 21:02
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] railway ID card for differently abled not working

Dinesh,
Plese call me on my cell number and we should speak directly. So that I can 
explain you the step by step process for the same. Because it's difficult to

explain every thing in a mail for our pune office.
So please get in touch with me. Fortunetly, we have very supporting staf in 
Pune DCM office.
Thanks and regards,
Rohiet Patil
Cell:+919850831774

-Original Message- 
From: Dinesh thole
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 10:32 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] railway ID card for differently abled not working

Hello Rohit Sir,

I am also from Pune.
Could you please let me know which office you visited for applying for this
ID card.
Also, if I don't have aadhar card, then can I submit registered rent
agreement as address proof?
Also please let me know what other documents I need to carry.

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rohiet A. Patil
Sent: 19 December 2015 21:02
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] railway ID card for differently abled not working

Hello!
The on-line concession ticket booking depends on 4 things. 1. Your unique
card number. 2. Your name as they have entered in there PRS system. 3. Your
date of birth. and 4. Expairy date of your card. All the things should be
correct. Then only your card will be validated.
Your unique number is not the 6 digits number. It is a alpha nummaric code
which contain your zone name and the city from which you made the card. For
example, I made my card from Pune which belongs to Central railway. So my
unique number starts with CRPUNE. Most important thing, we do not have to
enter 0 in that number. It has no vallue at all. We only have to enter all
the other number after zone name and city station code.
I hope that I have not confused you. If so, Plese get in touch with me on my

cell number so that I can explain you better. I know that I could not
explain all the things in this mail.
Thanks and regards,
Rohiet Patil
Cell:+919850831774

-Original Message- 
From: Amit Pahuja
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 3:49 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: [AI] railway ID card for differently abled not working

hey guys, i've got  railway ID card  couple of days back. however, i am not
able to  book concessional tickets  through IRCTC.co.in.
after login, i entered from and to stations, then entered date in
DD-MM- format and then, checked on I'll book in Handicap concession and
clicked on next. there it showed me list of trains there i selected desired
category and clicked on book now. there was some radio buttons.  i had kept
on general itself. because when i choose physically disabled, then it
becomes not available for every category. then i clicked on next.
in the next page, i was asked  to enter passengers details. i entered my
name, age, gender, from the combo box selected handicap. then entered 6
digit ID card number and then entered my date of birth and card expiry date
in DD-MM- format and clicked on next
it is giving me following error: Unable to perform Transaction due to
Essential Validation Integrity Checks failure. Please contact customer care.
the card number is of 6 digits starting from 00. i even tried entering last
4 numbers eliminating first two zeros. even that did not help.

what wrong am i doing.  or the card that i've got is not valid

waiting for your valuable replies in anticipation


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Re: [AI] Webvisum.xpi needed

[Dinesh thole]

Hi,

I have done as per your instructions.
However, firefox still doesn't allow to install XPI files.
I have also tried installing through open file option.
Please guide.

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Bikram
Sent: 21 December 2015 20:52
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Webvisum.xpi needed

Hi,

There is an option to override this security setting. In order to do so, you
need to change that option through Firefox configuration editor. Please note
that you should only proceed with the following steps if you assure yourself
that you're not gonna make any unintended change/modification in the
configuration settings. Because accidental modification of the values of
these advanced settings can be harmful to the stability, security, and
performance of your browser. So, please do it at your own risk!
1. Type "about:config" without the quotes in your browser address bar.
2. Click on "I'll be careful, I promise" button.
3. Type "xpinstall" without the quotes in the search box.
4. Use the arrow keys to get the option called
"xpinstall.signatures.required".
5. Press the application key to bring up the context menu options.
6. Choose toggle from that menu and press enter. You would discover that the
value is set to "false" which was initially "true".
7. Restart Firefox in order for the changes to take effect.
8. After implementing the change in the configuration settings as suggested
above, You could enable Webvisum again.
You can repeat the steps above to revert back to your default settings. In
that case, click "toggle" or "reset" to set this value to "true".
Hope that helps.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:32 PM, gufran ahmed <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> hi amar, if your firefox has been updated to v 43.0.1, then you will 
> not be ale to use webvisum. because now mozzilla is only authorize 
> those addons which are signed by mozilla team. hence we should wait 
> for the webvisum to get it sign by mozilla or we should write to 
> webvisum. i am also facing the same issue.
>
> On 12/21/15, Amar Jain <amarjain2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi List,
> >
> > Post upgrading to Windows 10, my Firefox reported that Webvisum is 
> > not compatable hence disabled. In order to enable it, something went 
> > wrong and it got uninstalled.
> >
> > Due to firewall limitations,, I am unable to re-install from the 
> > server directly.  Greatful if someone can send the .xpi on my e-mail
> > id: amarjain2...@gmail.com
> >
> > Regards
> > --
> > Amar Jain.
> > Website: www.amarjain.com
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [AI] railway ID card for differently abled not working

[Dinesh thole]

Hello Rohit Sir,

I am also from Pune.
Could you please let me know which office you visited for applying for this
ID card.
Also, if I don't have aadhar card, then can I submit registered rent
agreement as address proof?
Also please let me know what other documents I need to carry.

Thanks and Regards.

Dinesh Thole.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rohiet A. Patil
Sent: 19 December 2015 21:02
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] railway ID card for differently abled not working

Hello!
The on-line concession ticket booking depends on 4 things. 1. Your unique 
card number. 2. Your name as they have entered in there PRS system. 3. Your 
date of birth. and 4. Expairy date of your card. All the things should be 
correct. Then only your card will be validated.
Your unique number is not the 6 digits number. It is a alpha nummaric code 
which contain your zone name and the city from which you made the card. For 
example, I made my card from Pune which belongs to Central railway. So my 
unique number starts with CRPUNE. Most important thing, we do not have to 
enter 0 in that number. It has no vallue at all. We only have to enter all 
the other number after zone name and city station code.
I hope that I have not confused you. If so, Plese get in touch with me on my

cell number so that I can explain you better. I know that I could not 
explain all the things in this mail.
Thanks and regards,
Rohiet Patil
Cell:+919850831774

-Original Message- 
From: Amit Pahuja
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 3:49 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: [AI] railway ID card for differently abled not working

hey guys, i've got  railway ID card  couple of days back. however, i am not
able to  book concessional tickets  through IRCTC.co.in.
after login, i entered from and to stations, then entered date in
DD-MM- format and then, checked on I'll book in Handicap concession and
clicked on next. there it showed me list of trains there i selected desired
category and clicked on book now. there was some radio buttons.  i had kept
on general itself. because when i choose physically disabled, then it
becomes not available for every category. then i clicked on next.
in the next page, i was asked  to enter passengers details. i entered my
name, age, gender, from the combo box selected handicap. then entered 6
digit ID card number and then entered my date of birth and card expiry date
in DD-MM- format and clicked on next
it is giving me following error: Unable to perform Transaction due to
Essential Validation Integrity Checks failure. Please contact customer care.
the card number is of 6 digits starting from 00. i even tried entering last
4 numbers eliminating first two zeros. even that did not help.

what wrong am i doing.  or the card that i've got is not valid

waiting for your valuable replies in anticipation


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Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Hello Nasrullah Shahwani

NVDA is a screen reader, Urdu language would come under synthesizer 
development. There is work going on for eSpeak development for Indian 
languages, I will request my colleague to elaborate the status about it.

NVDA India team can fix issues that prevent a synthesizers to work properly 
with NVDA. But we cannot fix inefficient and badly designed synthesizers.

I understand that for end users NVDA and synthesizers are the same, but in 
software like many things in life, there are some constraints that our often 
beyond our control.

 
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Nasrullah Shahwani
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 5:39 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4

h
elø sir are you working on urdu langvije ? Please reply thanks

On 11/26/15, pawan jain <pawan.jn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/26/15, Dinesh Kaushal <dineshkaus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Sure we can, our mandate is to enable NVDA for Employment, education and
>> Indian Languages.
>>
>> But we cannot do much without knowing exactly what is not working, and we
>> also need support from the organizations that has implemented SAP
>> solution
>> and SAP labs.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Tilakprasad Joshi
>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 2:40 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4
>>
>> Could you take up accessibility issue with SAP so that NVDA can become
>> accessible with SAP which will be really beneficial.
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>> Tilak.
>>
>> On 11/26/15, Dinesh Kaushal <dineshkaus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Access Indians,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As you know, The NVDA India team primarily works on requirements raised
>>> in
>>> India. We are eager to hear from the users of NVDA about challenges that
>>> they face while using NVDA. We prioritize the feature requests according
>> to
>>> number of requests for any features or its impact on employability and
>>> education. Anything that will make NVDA work better with Indian
>>> languages
>>> is
>>> also our top priority as these issues never get priority by  non-Indian
>>> developers. Thus, if there are any issues that you would like to report,
>>> please report them on NVDA issue tracker on github
>>> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues and forward the ticket number
>>> and
>>> description to sumandog...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sean Randall has written a nice blog on LinkedIn about the features:
>> NVDASR
>>> doesn't just have new features, it adds them beautifully
>>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nvdasr-doesnt-just-have-new-features-adds-the
>>> m-sean-randall
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A brief description of these features follows:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Support of protected excel sheets: in a protected sheet if a cell
>> selection
>>> is disabled, NVDA was not able to read the content in that cell. NVDA
>> users
>>> can now navigate to those cells using browse mode. During the browse
>>> mode,
>>> NVDA would also announce whether a cell is unlocked so that users can
>> press
>>> enter to move the focus to that cell.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Listing and renaming of Microsoft Excel sheets: while working with large
>>> number of sheets, users often need a way to list all the sheets. So we
>> have
>>> added an option to list sheets in elements list dialog. Users can also
>>> change the name of sheets in this list with f2 command. This command is
>>> added because NVDA was not working in the rename sheets dialog of excel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Reporting input messages or tooltips in Microsoft Excel: NVDA now reads
>>> special messages added in Excel cells known as input messages. These
>>> messages help users to fill proper values for excel forms.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For details checkout the announcement for 2015.4 at
>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/post/announcing-nvda-2015-4-release/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also note, if it is the e

[AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Hi Access Indians,

 

As you know, The NVDA India team primarily works on requirements raised in
India. We are eager to hear from the users of NVDA about challenges that
they face while using NVDA. We prioritize the feature requests according to
number of requests for any features or its impact on employability and
education. Anything that will make NVDA work better with Indian languages is
also our top priority as these issues never get priority by  non-Indian
developers. Thus, if there are any issues that you would like to report,
please report them on NVDA issue tracker on github
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues and forward the ticket number and
description to sumandog...@gmail.com

 

Sean Randall has written a nice blog on LinkedIn about the features: NVDASR
doesn't just have new features, it adds them beautifully
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nvdasr-doesnt-just-have-new-features-adds-the
m-sean-randall

 

A brief description of these features follows:

 

Support of protected excel sheets: in a protected sheet if a cell selection
is disabled, NVDA was not able to read the content in that cell. NVDA users
can now navigate to those cells using browse mode. During the browse mode,
NVDA would also announce whether a cell is unlocked so that users can press
enter to move the focus to that cell.

 

Listing and renaming of Microsoft Excel sheets: while working with large
number of sheets, users often need a way to list all the sheets. So we have
added an option to list sheets in elements list dialog. Users can also
change the name of sheets in this list with f2 command. This command is
added because NVDA was not working in the rename sheets dialog of excel.

 

Reporting input messages or tooltips in Microsoft Excel: NVDA now reads
special messages added in Excel cells known as input messages. These
messages help users to fill proper values for excel forms.

 

For details checkout the announcement for 2015.4 at
http://www.nvaccess.org/post/announcing-nvda-2015-4-release/

 

Also note, if it is the e-speak voice that is holding you back from
exploring NVDA, then you can acquire license for Eloquence, Lekha and
Sangita voices from Saksham.

 

Acknowledgement:

 

NVDA India work is supported by Hans Foundation, The Centre for Internet &
Society, Sapient consulting Limited, Enable India, Saksham Trust, and IIT
Delhi.

 

Key contributors are: Michael Curren and James Teh from NV Access; Manish
Agrawal and Dinesh Kaushal from Sapient; Dipendra Menocha and Suman Dogra
from Saksham; Prof Balakrishnan, Siddhartha Gupta and Manshul Belani from
Indian institute of Technology Delhi; Nirmita Narasimhan from The Centre for
Internet & Society; Mohith from Enable India; and Vardhan Verma an
independent software developer from Hyderabad.

 

Regards

Dinesh

 

 



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