[AI] support for the campaign

2010-01-13 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Harish and All,
please get people to sign on the declaration form which is available on 
www.righttoread.in.
For the event in Delhi, requesting everyone to turn up with family and 
friends. If anyone has contacts in schools and universities, please try to 
get as many persons from the colleges to come, preferably in hundreds. I 
have no contact with students unions, nss and individuals and organisations 
who can mobilise support. Please remember- the success of our event depends 
largely upon the number of people who turn up to support the campaign- the 
capacity of Lal chowk is 1000 persons and it is open air so there won't be 
any problem to accomodate any number of persons. There may not be much of an 
impact even if we try to get important persons to come and get media 
coverage if there are very few people present there. Also if you all can 
write to me individually and let me know how many people you will be coming 
with, it would be most helpful.
We have very little time and opportunity- the bill gets presented in 
parliament in Feb, so please do help.

Thank you, Nirmita

Nirmita Narasimhan (Programme Manager)
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Shariff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
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[AI] Urgent help required from all Delhi Members!

2010-01-12 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Friends,

Do you know how many books are published each year?

How many are available in accessible formats?

How many people in India cannot read print?

What does our law say on the subject?

What does our Government say?

What are we doing about it?



Industry statistics reveal that there are about 80,000-100,000 books 
published each year in India. Out of these, barely 800 books may be 
available in accessible formats for persons who cannot read print. India has 
approximately 70 million or more people who cannot read print because they 
are blind, have dyslexia or have cerebral palsy or some other form of 
physical, cognitive or sensory disability which prevents them from holding 
or turning the pages of a book. Our Copyright Act does not have any 
provision which permits books to be converted in to formats which they can 
read. So organisations have been converting books only after getting 
permission or on their own out of a need to sustain the intellectual needs 
of the community for pursuing education. However, even these efforts have 
resulted in very few accessible books being in circulation.




We have been petitioning the Government for the past three years to change 
the law and make reading, which is a fundamental right for Indian citizens, 
possible for us. We have submitted many petitions, research documents, shown 
best practices, analysed possible provisions which would benefit both us and 
the industry, met them personally several times and spoken in the media 
about this. In November a group of us met the Minister of HRD Mr. Kapil 
Sibal and submitted a detailed representation yet again and explained the 
problem for the Nth time. He seemed most positive and assured us that our 
problem would be adequately addressed in the present Copyright amendment 
Bill which is to be tabled before the Parliament in the budget session in 
February 2010.




After that, in the last week of December 2009, the Ministry of HRD comes out 
with a press release 
(http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=56443&kwd= ) which talks very 
briefly about the amendment which has been proposed with regard to the 
"physically challenged". This press release is a cause of great concern and 
distress for us. The press release essentially states that conversion would 
be possible for physically challenged persons only in specialised formats 
without permission, for all other formats, we need to go to the Copyright 
Board for permission, which will be granted at the discretion of the Board 
and on such terms as they will specify. This essentially means that 
conversion is possible only into Braille or sign language. This is 
problematic because it leaves out all the millions of persons who are 
disabled and cannot read print or know Braille. What about those with 
dyslexia, cerebral palsy or those whose upper body is paralysed and all 
those who do not know Braille? Are not such persons also citizens of India? 
Should they not also have the Right to Read?




In this information Age, where all accessible formats can be produced 
through a master source electronic file and where even Braille can be read 
through refreshable Braille displays, for the Government to now come out 
with an amendment which would have been useful twenty years ago seems 
ironic. For how many of those 80,000-100,000 books can each of us keep 
asking for permission because we want an electronic file? And when we can 
use a mainstream electronic format like MSWord or PDF etc, why does the 
Government want to make things difficult for us again by asking us to 
convert into a specialised format? And for how long will we have to wait for 
permission? How will it be possible for us to keep making requests to the 
Copyright Board whenever we want to read a book?




Clearly, this has gone beyond all logical reasoning. We must be united and 
act together to ensure that ALL persons with disabilities can exercise their 
Right to Read.




The nationwide Right to Read campaign was launched in September last year 
and events were organised in Chennai and Calcutta. The next campaign is 
being organised in Delhi on 30th January, 2010.


The Venue: Lal Chowk, Pragati Maidan

Time: 02:00pm-05:00 pm

Date: 30th Jan



30th Jan is also the day when the International World Book fair begins in 
the same venue. What better time and venue can we have for us to show that 
while publishers from around the world are showcasing their publications, 
we, the Disability Community, still have no Books to read?




Appeal:

We need very strong support from the Disability community to come to the R2R 
campaign and make it a success. Lal Chowk has a seating capacity of 1000 
people and we need all of you to come in large numbers and participate. We 
will also try to organise transportation if the number of participants is 
large from any organisation.




I request you to please send your confirmation to me at the earliest.



Best wishes,



Nirmit

[AI] R2R in India- third phase

2010-01-06 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear All,
the R2R campaign in India is now in its third phase of operation. Following 
the first campaign in Chennai on 26th Sept and the second in Calcutta on 7th 
Nov, the R2R in Mumbai is taking on a new flavour. Instead of organising an 
event like the previous two, this one is focusing on getting signatures of 
hundreds of authors and publishers on a Declaration on the Right to Read. 
The campaign is gathering momentum as a build up to the R2R in the capital 
to be held on the first day of the world book fair at the same venue. The 
signature campaign is being spear headed by Xaviers Resource Centre for the 
Visually Challenged (XRCVC), which is  a member organisation of the DFI.
To know more about the campaign you may link to 
http://www.xrcvc.org/copyright.php#"righttoread"campaign . This link will 
also lead on to a request letter for authors and publishers which can be 
downloaded as a declaration form which needs to be filled up and signed. We 
request all of you to please pass on this to as many authors and publishers 
as you know to increase the success of the campaign. The letter has to be 
signed and returned in hard copy or scanned and sent to the XRCVC address 
which is there in the letter.
The R2R in New Delhi  will be held in the afternoon of 30th Jan at Pragati 
Maidan (venue of the book fair). More details to follow later.

Cheers and best wishes, Nirmita
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Centre for Internet and Society
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[AI] the Third National Workshop on web accessibility

2009-11-13 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Friends,
the third National workshop on web accessibility for web developers was 
organised by CIS in collaboration with Space- Kerala at Trivandrum on 
24th-25th September. The report is available at:

http://cis-india.org/advocacy/accessibility/blog/workshop-thiruvananthapuram
-report



Best, Nirmita

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[AI] meeting with the WIPO Director General

2009-11-13 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Friends,
the National Institute for the Visually Handicapped, the Daisy Forum of 
India and the Centre for Internet and Society together organised a meeting 
with the Director General of the World Intellectual Property Organisation 
(WIPO) to draw attention to the needs of the visually impaired persons 
community in India and other developing countries. During the course of the 
meeting, a submission document was also put forward to the DG on behalf of 
the vip community of India. Please find more info about the event, the 
presentations made there, the agenda and the submission document at

http://cis-india.org/advocacy/accessibility/blog/right-to-read-for-the-print
-impaired-and-copyright-challenges


Best, Nirmita

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Centre for Internet and Society
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[AI] Diwali wishes

2009-10-15 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan
Dear Friends,
wish you all a very happy diwali.
Cheers, Nirmita

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[AI] Fw: [tvi-discuss] Comments on inadequacy of voluntary measures to ensure equal access to copyrighted works for persons with reading disabilities

2009-10-09 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Hello All,
For your information.
Cheers, Nirmita

- Original Message - 
From: "James Love" 

To: "tvi" 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:06 PM
Subject: [tvi-discuss] Comments on inadequacy of voluntary measures to 
ensure equal access to copyrighted works for persons with reading 
disabilities




One of the main arguments by publishers against a WIPO treaty for
reading disabilities is that voluntary solutions are sufficient, and you
do not have to create a legal right to create and distribute works in
accessible formats.

Malini Aisola has created a web page that reports some of the comments
that various experts have made on this topic.  We hope to expand her web
page with additional quotes, and appreciate very much pointers to such
quotes.  Also, if people on this list would give us something we could
use, that would be great too.

The current version of the web page is here, and includes quotes from 9
experts and disabilities groups:

http://keionline.org/node/652


--
James Love, Director, Knowledge Ecology International
http://www.keionline.org | mailto:james.love at keionline.org
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[AI] link to R2R campaign

2009-09-30 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Hello Everyone,
here is the link again in case anyone was unable to open.
http://cis-india.org/advocacy/accessibility/blog/right-to-read-campaign-chen
nai-a-report


Best, Nirmita

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[AI] R2R campaign

2009-09-29 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Hello All,
please find below the link to the report on the first R2R campaign event 
held at Loyola college.

http://cis-india.org/advocacy/accessibility/blog/right-to-read-campaign-chen

Best, Nirmita

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[AI] R2R campaign

2009-09-26 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Friends,
I am happy to report that the R2R campaign in Chennai was well attended and 
well publicised. Almost 800 persons both vvi and non vi turned up from 
colleges around the city. We had reporters from TOI, The Hindu and the 
Deccan Chronicle cover the event. The NDTV Hindu- local Chennai channel will 
telecast this in the news. They are also having an interview of us in their 
prime time slot from 20:00-21:00 tonight, so all those who live in Chennai 
could watch this on TV. Our Chief Guest was mr.Shreekumar Verma, the great 
grandson of Raja Ravi Verma and a well known writer and dramaturtist- he 
immediately offered all his writing to be converted into accessible formats 
and has voluntered to write about this issue. There was a signature campaign 
which was started- Loyola College and the entire NSS team of Chennai have 
offered to try and get 1 lakh signatures on this- lets keep fingers crossed. 
After the Inauguration , we had a panel discussion where Prof Shivaraman,, 
advocate Mr.Vijay Kumar and Mr.Dipendra Manocha participated. There was a 
brief Q&A session with the audience, followed by a small orchestra programme 
and the programme concluded with lunch.
I would like to thank all of you in Chennai who attended the programme and 
made this possible. Above all I would like to thank Loyola College without 
whose initiatives and commitment this event would not have been possible. I 
look forward to making the next series of events more successful with inputs 
from all. The web site for the campaign is righttoread.in. Request all to go 
there and give feed back, comments etc. There is a declaration form which we 
are requesting persons to sign.
The complete report of this event shall be ready next and uploaded to the 
CIS web site. I shall send the link as soon as that is done.

Cheers, Nirmita

Nirmita Narasimhan
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[AI] R2R Campaign

2009-09-25 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Hello Friends,
Today is our first R2R campaign event in Loyala College, Chennai. It begins 
at 09:00 and will conclude at 13:00hrs. About 1000 participants are coming 
from 100 colleges and organisations around Chennai and a lot of newspapers 
and a couple of TV channels too.  I am off now- but I will write in detail 
about this and you can also read about this on the CIS blog soon and 
hopefully from newspaper and TV coverage.

Wish us luck.
Cheers, Nirmita

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[AI] Right To Read Campaign in India

2009-09-15 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Friends,
the Daisy Forum of India, CIS and Inclusive Planet are initiating a
nationwide Right to Read (R2R) campaign in India. The campaign will start in
Chennai at Loyala college on 26th September and will cover the four metros
over October. This campaign has been officially recognised by the WBU as a
part of the global R2R campaign. We are writing to all organisations to come
and lend their name and support to this campaign. We require  you all to
take part and spread the word. We believe that the amendments proposed a
couple of years ago to the Copyright Act may again be under discussion in
the ministry and so it may be a good time to put our requirements forward.
Further, the WBU Treaty for the Blind is also coming up for discussion again
at the next WIPO meeting to be held in December. It has currently got
support of only three Latin American countries- considering that we house
almost the largest percentage of blind and other disabled persons, it would
be most beneficial for us if the Treaty comes through and we have been
urging the Indian Government to support the Treaty as well. The Treaty seeks
to harmonise exceptions and limitations to Copyright across all countries so
that there can be an unimpeded exchange of books in accessible formats
across borders. I suggest that all of you read the Treaty to get a better
understanding of the issue involved. The Treaty also says that accessible
books should be at prices which can be reasonably afforded by persons with
print impairments, given their capacity of earning, which may be at the same
price, or even lesser than the market price.
Anyway, the long and short of it is that this treaty is good for us and the
country and we want it to come through- so hence this awareness campaign. We
plan to have half a day events where we will have open discussions and
debates on this issue, get some famous persons to endorse this campaign,
raise media interest and publicity and get public  support.
I'll send more details about this as and when they are finalised. I require
help in:
1. getting all of you in the cities where this is happening to come and
participate in large numbers
2. Suggest any famous personalities whom you may have access to for
endorsing this campaign
3. help with organising this in different locations in different cities- if
your colleges and universities will give us space- that is the best place to
have these
4. Give your ideas for this campaign.
Please write to me personally at nirm...@cis-india.org, or call me at my
office number 080 40926283 after friday. I am travelling at the moment.
Looking forward to your response, support and a great campaign together.
Cheers, Nirmita
PS
We have registered righttoread.in as the campaign website- it should
hopefully be up by the end of the week. Will of course keep you informed.


Nirmita Narasimhan
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[AI] disability statistics

2009-09-14 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Thanks Dinesh,
the stats are useful. May I also request you to ask the sender to send the 
links to where the stats can be found so that we can use these as reference 
in our documents?

Thanks, Nirmita

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[AI] the Bookbole discussion

2009-09-03 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Friends,
I realise that many of you have been discussing Bookbole and wondering why I 
hadn't responded. Harish, don't worry, I am not taking up the thread again. 
I just wanted to tell everyone that I have been having problems with my 
hotmail account and while I did respond to the queries raised, as well as 
requested some persons to post it on my behalf- I was unable to post the 
mail and no one did it on my behalf either. I have now resubscribed from 
gmail. I will be happy to provide my response off the list to anyone who 
wants to find out what I have to say on the matter.

Thank you for your patience and interest in Bookbole.
Cheers, Nirmita

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[AI] Bookbole announcement!

2009-08-30 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan


   Dear Friends,

As many of you are aware, The Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) is 
extremely dedicated to the cause of securing access to knowledge for the 
print disabled in India. While we took our first baby steps in this area 
only a year ago, we have nevertheless, with your support, managed to make a 
significant difference in terms of raising awareness, conducting capacity 
building trainings and working towards policy and practical change for 
securing the right of persons with disabilities to access electronic 
information.


Our vision is that persons with print impairments should have access to 
reading materials in accessible formats at the same time and no extra cost 
as their sighted counterparts. To achieve this, we have set up a library of 
books with multiple formats which can be accessed by persons using screen 
readers. However, this is just a small beginning and I count on each one of 
you to treat this as your own personal library and undertake the task of 
filling it with all the books and e content at hand, and help us make this 
become one of the world's richest and most actively used libraries. To 
enable you to easily upload books, we have set up a dedicated file server to 
support the library which will allow us to upload and download books in a 
simple and seamless fashion.


Our library can be accessed through Bookbole, a website which has been 
designed specifically for use with screen readers.


Bookbole provides an enhanced functionality of allowing users to find, 
share, and manage personal libraries and is at the same time very easy to 
navigate. This website has been developed by Inclusive Planet, a social 
venture involved in creating web based products and services for the 
differently-abled.


So please start uploading books and building our Library collection today!

Three simple steps to upload books onto the library-

Step 1: Login

Log on to www.bookbole.com , by using your email id and creating a password

Step 2: Install the Bookbole Bookloader

The Bookbole Bookloader can be downloaded and installed from the Navigation 
section of the website.


Step 3: Upload & Publish

You can upload your entire collection of books by using the The Bookbole 
Bookloader which allows you to upload multiple files and folders.


Once the books get uploaded, go to the personal library section, which is 
under the Navigation section of the site. The uploaded books will reflect in 
the private books section of your personal library. To share it with the 
entire community, you will need to click on publish so that your books will 
now be available for searches on the site!


If you are having any trouble with navigation or using any of the features 
provided on the site, or if you have ideas to further improve Bookbole, 
please write to cont...@bookbole.com


However, while this is also just the beginning for all of us, we want to 
ensure that there are at least a few books of interest for everyone who uses 
this site. So please do upload books in your collection which you value very 
much, and have the satisfaction of knowing that you gave this to others to 
read, to experience and to cherish as you yourself do. Let that special book 
be special to someone else too- someone to whom you reached out through your 
contribution to the library.


Let us join hands and connect the world by sharing knowledge!

Warm regards,

Nirmita



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[AI] books of Wodehouse

2009-07-05 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Hello friends,
I am a great fan of Wodehouse and I was wondering if you could send me the 
books too?

Thanks, Nirmita

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[AI] info required

2009-06-22 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Hi Everyone,
As part of an experimental project, I am looking at the daisyfication of all 
the books of one college level subject. I was wondering if you all could 
give me your inputs on which subjects are the most opted for by vi students. 
Please send your answers to me off the list.

Thanks for the help, Nirmita

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[AI] request to Nisha

2009-06-16 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Nisha,
could you send the letters of the UGC to me too?
Thanks, Nirmita

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[AI] workshop announcement

2009-05-27 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Hello Everyone,
I am happy to announce that CIS is organising its second workshop on web 
accessibility at Bangalore. Please read more about the event at 
http://www.cis-india.org/events/national-workshop-on-web-accessibility-june-2009


Do please spread the word to persons who might find it useful to attend.
Thanks, Nirmita

Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283
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[AI] help with cataloguing

2009-05-26 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Hello Everybody,
we need some help with cataloguing for the inclusive planet's reading 
section readable.in
The work is simple and can be done by you at home at your convenience. We 
are willing to pay for it.

If you are interested, please contact me off the list.
Cheers, Nirmita

Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283
M: 098458 68078





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[AI] bangalore meetRe: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 37, Issue 46

2009-05-17 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan
L" 
Subject: [AI] Regarding Bangalore AI meeting
To: 
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Folks:

The Bangalore off-line AI meeting, which took place today at the CIS
(Centre for Internet and Society) campus, was a resounding success. More
than 20 AI members from different parts of the country were present to
listen to four presentations made by IVolunteers, 3i Infotec, Area Pal
and Inclusive Planet. All the presenters spoke about their
services/products/organisations, but it proved to be useful for those
present. For instance, the I Volunteer presentation opened the way for
many to either request for volunteer help (as disability services is one
of 12 areas for which the organisation helped with volunteers).
Obviously, those present were interested in reading/scanning books and
other related services.

Interestingly, the idea of digital signatures, which the 3i Infotec
representative dealt with, prompted discussion on using digital
signatures as a means of certifying disabled persons who wanted to buy
railway tickets online. In fact, Sanjeev, the representative, was even
positive that it can be done.

Kavi Raj, who is from Area Pal, explained how their online platform
linked people in the same neighbourhood/campus and helped them exchange
news and information relevant to them. Rounding up the interesting
evening was Sachin from Inclusive Planet, who spoke about readable, an
accessible online space where (V I) folks can upload/download books and
share the books they have. He said the site already contains about 15000
ebooks and asked for contribution. Integral Planet, which looks at
services from the disability perspective, is poised to introduce spaces
for restaurant/public place ratings (on the basis of their
accessibility) and matrimonial services for the disabled where the
emphasis will be on their abilities.

Overall, the evening was made more funny and interesting by our hostess
Nirmita Narasimhan (on behalf of CIS), who introduced her organisation
to the audience and also took the job of making us all hear our voices
for the first time (by letting us introduce ourselves). Thanks to
Nirmita and Geetha's efforts and hard work, the event is a success. And,
of course, we shouldn't forget the place and snacks provided by CIS and
the wonderful support of their staff in escorting us back and forth the
building.

Subramani


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:10:31 +0530 (IST)
From: Anuj Verma 
Subject: [AI] about hindi reading machine
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Message-ID: <808814.72539...@web94101.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

hallo,
 I want to know about any hindi text reading machine, and also any 
hindi OCR. If any friend know, please send me more detail, it's 
availability.

Thanks to all.
Dr. a.K. Verma
E mail-- ak.divyadris...@yahoo.co.in


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Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:15:18 +0530
From: "Vijay Kumar P.V.S." 
Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding Bangalore AI meeting
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Have you recorded this wonderful event? If so, please upload for us.

With warm regards
VIJAY


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:22:10 +0530
From: "Geetha Shamanna" 
Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding Bangalore AI meeting
To: 
Message-ID: <1fb2e57fa59749108bcb750dfb9e5...@sys>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Yes indeed, the entire proceedings were recorded. These files will be
uploaded soon and links posted to the list.

Geetha
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Have you recorded this wonderful event? If so, please upload for us.

With warm regards
VIJAY


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[AI] Re Prof Shyam

2009-04-19 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Prof Shyam,
you are welcome to attend the access India meeting. The venue is the 
conference room of Centre for Internet and Society, which is on the third 
floor (if you come by lift) of the Wockhardt Hospital on Cunningham Road. 
This is a very famous landmark and any auto guy should get you here if you 
just tell him. It should take you about half an hour to get here if there is 
no traffic I think. Do please  feel free to mail/call one of us once you get 
here and if you need help. Maybe you could come with someone else who is 
coming from that side.

Cheers, Nirmita

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  2. Help required (Hozefa Zoher Tambawala)
  3. Why can't a computers start up like a television?
 (Saravanan Ramadoss)
  4. Re: IPL (Hozefa Zoher Tambawala)
  5. Re: Access India meet in Bangalore (Shyam M. Sayanekar)
  6. Re: Help required (Suryanarayana)


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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:29:22 +0530
From: "Vikas Kapoor" 
Subject: [AI] Soon, sat nav that directs guide dogs for blind people
To: "Access India" 
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Soon, sat nav that directs guide dogs for blind people
ANISaturday, April 18, 2009 15:26 IST
London: A British boffin has invented a revolutionary sat nav that directs 
guide dogs for blind people.


The 500-pound gizmo, which will be launched this summer, clips on to the 
dog's harness and vibrates on the left or right side to tell the handler 
which direction to go in.


The blind user announces their destination into a sat nav microphone. The 
vibrating receiver then indicates how to "steer" the dog.


Product design student Jason Perkins developed Peepo after working with 
the Cardiff Institute for the Blind for a year, reports The Sun.


Jason, 34, who studies at the University of Wales Institute in Cardiff, 
said: "It gives blind people complete freedom. They can use it to navigate 
safely to new places.


"I wanted to create something that would have a life-changing effect but 
would also draw on the unique skills of the guide dog."


Blind Jane McCann, 39, from Cardiff, who tested Peepo, said: "I have small 
children, so it's difficult to concentrate on the kids and directions at 
the same time. This was easy to use and life-enhancing."


http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1248768

Vikas Kapoor,
MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:50:37 +0530
From: "Hozefa Zoher Tambawala" 
Subject: [AI] Help required
To: 
Message-ID: <49e9fdd8.06876e0a.3058.b...@mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello friends,



Can anybody tell me what is the use of address book? And how should I make
entries in the address book?



Have a nice day...

Warm regards,

Hozefa...

mobile no: 9930408514



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:48:07 +0530
From: "Saravanan Ramadoss" 
Subject: [AI] Why can't a computers start up like a television?
To: "Tharani Pathi" , "Vikas Munot 1."
, , "Dhandapani
Ramachandran" , ,

Message-ID: <00b601c9c041$ade0d510$0201a...@sarvanan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Subject: Why can't a computers start up like a television?
In short, it is all about the operating system. And contrary to common 
sense, the newer the operating system the longer it can take. But you can 
do something about it. Here are tips to get your tortoiselike boot time to 
hop like a bunny.
Why can't a computer be more like a television? When you push the power 
button on a TV, it just turns on. Computers, on the other hand, boot - as 
in, they take so long to get started that you want to stick your boot into 
them.
You would think that the march of technological progress would have 
reduced boot times over the years, but newer operating systems can take 
longer - Microsoft Vista actually tends to boot more slowly than its 
predecessor, Windows XP. (Microsoft claims its next-generation operating 
system, Windows 7, should provide drastic improvements in boot time.)


Additionally, boot times increase with a computer's age. As you use your 
PC and more programs and devices are installed, 

[AI] on line portal for PWDs

2009-04-19 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Mukesh,
a colleague of mine who is an intellectual property lawyer in Chennai has 
already been working on this for a year now. Many of us have been helping 
him with building the e content bit of the web site for visually challenged 
and gathering all the material wherever we can get it. The content section 
is called readable and should go live by the end of the month. We have a lot 
of stuff we are going to put, but since the cataloging and organising bit is 
taking time, we are going live with whatever we have right now,. Eventually 
this is to have all the education, entertainment  and anything which would 
be of interest to persons. VI people would have to log in and certify that 
they are vi and then they would have access to the reading material. We want 
this to be peer driven and people to upload their materials themselves and 
create a vibrant culture of sharing. The web site is called "inclusive 
planet" and it would be great if all those who want could help with the beta 
testing to see if the site is completely accessible and then of course start 
using the material and uploading actively.

Cheers, Nirmita

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  2. Re: Grammar book (mukesh jain)
  3. Re: Guidance Required to install Talks 3.52 in nokia n95
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  4. Re: Entering new journey of life (Rohiet A. Patil)


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Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:54:55 +0530
From: mukesh jain 
Subject: Re: [AI] books on education uploaded
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

hullo sir, first of all, i do sincerely express my gratitude for your
kind appreciation. in this connection, it is to kindly inform you that
very soon i am going to come up with a good online portal for PWD's. i
am working on it and hoping to start this very soon. so kindly keep
giving me your wonderful inspiration and valluable rewards for my
work. this really serves source of inspiration for me.
thanking you,
with regards,
mukesh jain.

On 4/19/09, Prashant Verma  wrote:

Dear Mukesh ji,
You are doing a very good job indeed by posting all these books.
Please consider putting all this up on a website/blog of your own or any
other so that people can access it on a continual basis.


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From: "mukesh jain" 
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:07 PM
To: "accessindia" 
Subject: [AI] books on education uploaded


hullo, this is to kindly inform you that i have uploaded few books on
education on sendspace. if you are interested in downloading the same,
please click on the link below.
file name: education books
file size: 10 MB
Description: books on education, modern techniques and policies

You can use the following link to retrieve your file:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/yv7dy3
thanks,
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Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:01:55 +0530
From: mukesh jain 
Subject: Re: [AI] Grammar book
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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hullo, could you please tell me your specification for english grammar
book? are you looking for any purticular writer/author?
please do let me know so that i can look for it.
thanks,
mukesh jain.
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Hello friends! I am Naushad from Kerala.
If anyone having ebooks of English grammar, please share with me.
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Re: [AI] Abdul and Mukesh

2009-04-17 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Mukesh,
thank you very much for your wonderful contribution to the storehouse of 
digital content available for us to access. We all really appreciate the 
vision and initiative you have in uploading your collection.

Dear Abdul,
that was an extremely inspiring account of your success. I would like to 
know more about it and if you could give me your number I could discuss this 
off the list.

Cheers, Nirmita

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 (Sasi Kumar)
  2. Re: hi list members good morning a small query please answer
 (neela sh)
  3. Re: hi list members good morning a small query please answer
 (Suryanarayana)
  4. Re: court orders required on visually impaired job
 opportunityconcerned. (tkg)
  5. global voice (firoz)
  6.  hi list members good morning a small query please answer
 (Mahesh Narasimhan Iyer)
  7. Looking some one in Satara! (Satguru)
  8. Re: law books uploaded (priyesh)
  9. "Open Your Eyes", Please Read this (Abdul Razique)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:37:54 +0530
From: Sasi Kumar 
Subject: [AI] hi list members good morning a small query please answer
To: accessindia 
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Here is my question I.E,well one of my friend went for an interview in
A college for an english lecturer job.
There she was posed A question  i.e:
Why do letter K remains unpronounced in some words  for example in A
word knowledge or knife?

The moment she expressed this doubt i thought of knowing reason behind it.
Hence i request you to help me in this regard.




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:13:22 +0530
From: neela sh 
Subject: Re: [AI] hi list members good morning a small query please
answer
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

hai sir!
those sielent letters, like knowledge, knife are all we have taken
from different language, like greek.
hope it will help to your question.

with regards.


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Here is my question I.E,well one of my friend went for an interview in
A college for an english lecturer job.
There she was posed A question  i.e:
Why do letter K remains unpronounced in some words  for example in A
word knowledge or knife?

The moment she expressed this doubt i thought of knowing reason behind 
it.

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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:03:25 +0530
From: "Suryanarayana" 
Subject: Re: [AI] hi list members good morning a small query please
answer
To: 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

hello sesi,
Our earlier friends replied the same very particularly. As these words 
taken

from many languages they pronunce like that. These are called silent
letters. We can't give exact reason in particular. I too had a doubt
previously when reffered some books, It noticed like that.
With cheers,]
Surya.
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Subject: [AI] hi list members good morning a small query please answer



Here is my question I.E,well one of my friend went for an interview in
A college for an english lecturer job.
There she was posed A question  i.e:
Why do letter K remains unpronounced in some words  for example in A
word knowledge or knife?

The moment she expressed this doubt i thought of knowing reason behind 
it.

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[AI] working in rural areas oppurtunity

2009-04-15 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan


- Original Message - 
From: "Rahul Gonsalves" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:15 PM
Subject: Fwd: Message from Chirag





Begin forwarded message:


From: V K Madhavan 
Date: 14 April 2009 7:56:24 AM GMT+05:30
To: i...@chirag.org
Subject: Message from Chirag
Reply-To: madha...@chirag.org

Hi,

Greetings from Chirag! It is indeed that time of the year again! Not
just summer! It is time for us to commence promotion of Swades Ki
Khoj again!

We are just commencing promotion for the third cohort of Swades ki
Khoj - a programme that provides young graduates between the ages of
21 and 28 with an opportunity to spend a year living and working in
a rural area.

Our experience of the past few years has suggested that email and
the internet is a very powerful medium of reaching out to people. We
would be delighted if you could forward this mail and the poster to
people who could potentially be interested to enroll in the programme.

We would be delighted to answer any other queries that you may have
and welcome suggestions and comments as well.

with warm regards
madhavan













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[AI] Bangalore meeting

2009-04-14 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Friends,
please make the following changes in the invitation from Subramani:
1. The meeting is proposed for May 16th which is a saturday
2. CIS shall be happy to host the meeting and we will undertake to provide 
snacks and tea for the meeting. So I propose that we waive the attendance 
fees, considering that no expenditure is going to be incurred by anyone to 
attend. We would like to encourage participation and do not wish this to be 
a reason for anyone to miss coming. As it happens I can appreciate that a 
lot of people would have to travel a long way to get here.

3. We would appreciate confirmation at the earliest.
4. Any suggestions for discussion topics are welcome.
Looking forward to meeting all of you soon, cheers, Nirmita- Original 
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:51:49 +0530
From: "Suryanarayana" 
Subject: Re: [AI] problem in i.e. 8
To: 
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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

Hello sir,
If we download IE8 from yahoo website there is no problem. I did it. They
made it easy to install and to work.
Surya.
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To: ; 
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] problem in i.e. 8



It has not been installed properly. after the installation is complete,
there should come a dialog box which deals with the settings. in fact, IE
8 is installed in two parts. first it uninstalls the previous version of
IE. then the computer restarts. at that time, if the connection somehow
fails and updates to IE updates are not downloaded, it creates problems.
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To: "Access India" 
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 1:58 PM
Subject: [AI] problem in i.e. 8



Hello list members,



Today I have installed Windows Internet Explorer 8 and Internet Explorer
7
was already installed in my laptop. Now I am facing a strange problem.
Whenever I click internet options in tools menu the following error 
comes

on
the screen:





Data Execution Prevention - Microsoft Windows

To help protect your computer, Windows has closed this program.

Name: Internet Explorergraphic 602  Publisher: Microsoft Corporation

Close Message

Data Execution Prevention helps protect against damage from viruses and
other

security threats. What should I do?



When I click close button then one more error displayed that is :



Internet Explorer

Internet Explorer has encountered a problem and needs

to close.  We are sorry for the inconvenience.

If you were in the middle of someth

might be lost.

Please tell Microsoft about this problem.

We have created an error report that you can send to help us improve

Internet Explorer.  We will treat this report as confidential and
anonymous.

To see what data this error report contains, click here.

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[AI] WCAG translation into hindi

2009-03-26 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Dear Friends,
the Centre for Internet and Society has just come out with the hindi 
translation of the WCAG 2.0. You can download the translated version at

http://www.cis-india.org/advocacy/open-standards/accessibility/blog/hindi-translation-of-web-content-accessibility-guidelines-2.0
We wish to make this an authorised translation of the W3c soon and are 
trying to call upon other organisations and stake holders to help us review 
the translation. We would appreciate valuable comments and suggestions from 
all of you to make the translation a most authentic one.

You may send in your views to me directly at nirm...@cis-india.org
Thanks in anticipation and best wishes, Nirmita

Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283
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[AI] web site reviewRe: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 31, Issue 34

2008-11-12 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Hi Vedprakash,
thanks a lot for the feedback on that site. Have put it down on my list.
Best, Nirmita- Original Message - 
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  2. cricket (Ketan Kothari)
  3. Re: Testing Automation (Ch. Srinivasu)
  4. Re: Accuracy of Speech Recognition softwares? (Pranav Lal)
  5. Re: help required for accessibility project (Vedprakash Sharma)
  6. How to make my Name appear in From: instead of a number when
 sending an SMS? (Syed the Gadgeteer)
  7. Accupuncture Treatment. (P. Subramani)
  8. Contact Details. (P. Subramani)
  9. OPORTUNITY FOR NETWORK ENGINEER: (sakinadhariwala)
 10. Thankyou for the support (ruchir falodiya)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:57:41 +0530
From: "Kotian, H P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] FW: help with web accessibilitysurvey
To: "'accessindia@accessindia.org.in'"

Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Dear all

I hope our members will volunteer enthusiastically for the survey.
I suggest if members would also test it with some free screen readers like 
NVDA, SAFA etc along with their regular screen readers. Pl also indicate 
the screen reader and the version no you are using.


Best regards
Harish.

From: Nirmita Narasimhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:48 PM
To: Kotian, H P
Subject: Re: help with web accessibilitysurvey

Dear Harish,
can't get through to your number. Shall call tomorrow. I am producing 
below the message I posted on Accessindia. It doesn't seem to have been 
reflected. Could you help me with this?

Thanks, Nirmita

Dear All,
As you are aware the Centre for Internet and Society has launched a 
campaign for having a national policy on accessibility. We had our first 
meeting for devicing a strategy for making web standards mandatory in 
India in our office in Bangalore on 7th November. You can read about this 
at http://www.cis-india.org/advocacy/open-standards/accessibility
In order to take this forward, I was looking at having a survey on a very 
small level of some twenty Government web sites which would be critical 
for our use. I was wondering if some of you would volunteer to help me out 
with this. The sites I had in mind were-
National Informatics Centre, Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment 
(highly inaccessible), Railways, UGC, some education sites like IIM A, B, 
IIT Delhi and Kanpur, Jawaharlal Nehru University, Delhi University, some 
medical sites like AIMS and CMC Vellore, some banking sites like SBI, 
Syndicate Bank and Punjab National Bank, Income Tax site and maybe the 
Parliament- Lok and Rajya Sabhas.

If you could-
A. rate the site on a scale from 1-10
b. mention how accessible it is and give some of the problems encountered 
in each siteit would be great.


I really need this info and would really appreciate your help in this 
matter.
If the volunteers can indicate at the beginning what sites they will like 
to review, it would save duplication.

Thanks in anticipation, Nirmita
n
Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283
M: 098458 68078

----- Original Message -
From: Kotian, H P<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Nirmita Narasimhan'<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: help with web accessibilitysurvey

Dear Nirmita

Yes, you ask for volunteers on the list for this project.

Depending on the number of volunteers you get, you can give 1 website to 
more than 1 individual andsee what results you get.


Do fine the screen reader they are using and its version.
For more info, pl feel free to speak on phone.
Harish.


From: Nirmita Narasimhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:02 PM
To: Kotian, H P
Subject: Re: help with web accessibilitysurvey

Dear Harish,
thanks. Yes I am a member of access india. I did consider this 
possibility, but do you think that I will be able to get systematic tests 
done by persons? Also I did ask Barrier Break too, but I think they are 
too expensi

[AI] help required for accessibility project

2008-11-12 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan
Dear All,
As you are aware the Centre for Internet and Society has launched a campaign 
for having a national policy on accessibility. We had our first meeting for 
devicing a strategy for making web standards mandatory in India in our office 
in Bangalore on 7th November. You can read about this at 
http://www.cis-india.org/advocacy/open-standards/accessibility
In order to take this forward, I was looking at having a survey on a very small 
level of some twenty Government web sites which would be critical for our use. 
I was wondering if some of you would volunteer to help me out with this. The 
sites I had in mind were-
National Informatics Centre, Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment (highly 
inaccessible), Railways, UGC, some education sites like IIM A, B, IIT Delhi and 
Kanpur, Jawaharlal Nehru University, Delhi University, some medical sites like 
AIMS and CMC Vellore, some banking sites like SBI, Syndicate Bank and Punjab 
National Bank, Income Tax site and maybe the Parliament- Lok and Rajya Sabhas.
If you could-
A. rate the site on a scale from 1-10
b. mention how accessible it is and give some of the problems encountered in 
each siteit would be great. 

I really need this info and would really appreciate your help in this matter.
If the volunteers can indicate at the beginning what sites they will like to 
review, it would save duplication.
Thanks in anticipation, Nirmita
n
Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283
M: 098458 68078
 
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[AI] Reto Renuka and SubramaniRe: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 30, Issue 125

2008-10-31 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan

Hi All,
you may read up about the Treaty here:
http://www.keionline.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=210&Itemid=1

Subramani, I trust I have already answered these questions in my mail to you 
earlier.

Best, Nirmita.
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  1. How to enable webcam in the skype (Praful Vyas)
  2. Re: WBU's proposed treaty  to WIPO (Renuka Warrier)
  3. Onboard bs. off board navigation (Pranav Lal)
  4. Needless ids inserting / Writing the message machine hangs
 (Shadab Husain)
  5. Re: Invitation to national policy on digital access meeting
 (Subramani L)
  6. (no subject) (Chandrakala Palekar)
  7. Re: [SDS] Fall 2008 issue of DSQ now out! (Dr. Rohit Trivedi)
  8. Need some material on indian economy (Jairam Balasubramanian)
  9. Re: (no subject) (Subramani L)
 10. Re: Needless ids inserting / Writing the message machine
 hangs (Subramani L)
 11. sorry for asking for crack (Chandrakala Palekar)
 12. Hi, books needed on The history of English literature.
 (govind reddy)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:17:52 +0530
From: "Praful Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] How to enable webcam in the skype
To: "accessindia group" 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Dear Friends,

I want to enable webcam in my skype. Please give me guidance how to enable 
webcam in the Skype?


Yours Sincerely,
Praful Vyas,
Hon. Secretary,
Andhjan Kalyan Trust,
Behind Jain Derasar, Station Plot,
Dhoraji-360410.
Dist. Rajkot, Gujarat, India.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:17:25 +0530
From: "Renuka Warrier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AI] WBU's proposed treaty  to WIPO
To: 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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Since attachments are not allowed in the list, please paste it in the text
itself.

Renuka.
- Original Message - 
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To: ; "sayeverything Moderator"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: [AI] WBU's proposed treaty to WIPO


Friends,
we are having a signature campaign to show our support for the WBU 
proposal.

Attached are the proposed Treaty, talking points and our letter to the
Government. Would really appreciate it if you could write in to affirm 
your

support at the earliest.The meeting is to be held between Nov 3rd-7th.
Cheers, Nirmita Narasimhan

Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283
M: 098458 68078








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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:46:17 +0530
From: "Pranav Lal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] Onboard bs. off board navigation
To: accessindia 
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi all,

Those of you considering WayFinder Access may find the below article
instructive. Remember, that heavy data usage only takes place if you
use the map view of WFA since graphics are downloaded to your phone.
If you only plot routes and just use the views such as the "guide
view" and "itinerary view", data usage is not significant.
http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=5133&cid=10850

Pranav



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[AI] Invitation to national policy on digital access meeting

2008-10-30 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan
 

Appeal for Web Accessibility

 

Dear Friends,

 

The internet has brought with it a fresh breath of life and energy into the 
lives of disabled persons throughout the world. More than others, it has 
enabled and liberated them in the most complete sense of the words and 
succeeded in elevating levels of independence, competence and confidence.  Like 
any other technology however this comes with its bundle of problems. Thankfully 
for us, a large part of this can be solved by merely setting some minimum 
standards in place at no extra cost or effort.

 

For any technology to be completely useful, it has to fall into the criteria of 
- utility, usability, affordability, acceptance and accessibility. 
Unfortunately, while the internet can solve most of the access to information  
challenges faced by disabled persons, the hurdles in the form of navigation or 
comprehension problems pose as severe barriers to placing complete reliance on 
it as a tool for managing one's work and academic pursuits for visually and 
print disabled persons. To help better understand the issue, given below are 
some features which are quite problematic for persons with visual and reading  
disabilities. They are accompanied by some simple solutions which can be easily 
incorporated by web page creators right from the very beginning.

 

Web pages often contain images and graphics which cannot be discerned by screen 
readers- text descriptions and explanations can be provided for these; creation 
of links to skip to content can provide a huge relief for persons using screen 
readers from listening to a whole lot of useless or confusing content;  there 
should be key board alternatives for every function which has to be executed 
with a mouse; links without references such as "click here" or links without 
any specific destination should be avoided;  creators of web pages should not 
rely upon colours to convey meanings; since screen readers read content as it 
is in the code, web page creators should ensure that content is read correctly 
in the page as well as in the code.

 

By adherence to web accessibility standards, these problems can be avoided. A 
lot of countries in the world like USA, UK, Canada, Australia and many more 
have enacted legislations to make it mandatory for creators of web pages to 
follow the minimum standards for web page accessibility adopted by those 
countries. India has ratified the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with 
Disabilities in October 2007. Unfortunately however, no move has been made till 
date to adopt or make mandatory web accessibility guidelines in our country. 
Consequently, a lot of government and private web sites are in accessible for 
persons with disabilities, defeating the very purpose of ICT for development.

 

Considering these factors, we think it is high time that we make a concerted 
effort towards enabling a more inclusive on line environment for all. Adopting 
a web accessibility standard does not merely make the web more accessible to 
disabled persons, it makes navigation and operation easier for everyone. The 
W3C has come out with a web accessibility standard called the WCAG (Web Content 
Accessibility Guidelines) which has been adopted by many countries.  This makes 
the tasks of the countries easier in the sense that they have already a ready 
framework and guidelines available to work with.

 

We solicit your active support and presence in this movement for enabling 
mandatory adherence to web accessibility standards in India. You are invited to 
join the google group for a national policy for E Access at 
http://groups.google.com/group/e-access.We are planning to have a meeting of 
all interested parties and organizations who are committed to supporting this 
cause  on the date and venue given below. We request you to attend along with 
other supporters. 

Date: 7th Nov, 2008 (Friday)

Time: 11:00 am

Venue- CIS office

Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283 

Please communicate your participation to us, by sending an email to

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Ph: 98458 68078 (m)

Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283
M: 098458 68078
 

Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
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14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
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M: 098458 68078
 
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[AI] WBU's proposed treaty to WIPO

2008-10-30 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan
Friends,
we are having a signature campaign to show our support for the WBU proposal.
Attached are the proposed Treaty, talking points and our letter to the 
Government. Would really appreciate it if you could write in to affirm your 
support at the earliest.The meeting is to be held between Nov 3rd-7th. 
Cheers, Nirmita Narasimhan

Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283
M: 098458 68078
 
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[AI] Fw: Free audio books

2008-09-25 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan
Hi All,
I thought this would be of interest to some of you.
Cheers, Nirmita.
- Original Message - 
From: Pranesh Prakash 
To: Nirmita Narasimhan 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:21 PM
Subject: Free audio books


Dear Nirmita,
I thought you'd be interested in these:

  a.. Books Should Be Free - This site is a great place to find free fiction 
and nonfiction. Users can download plain text files and MP3 audio books files. 
  b.. Free Classic Audio Books - A wonderful collection of free classics. All 
audio books are available in MP3 and in M4b formats for iTunes and iPods. 
  c.. Gutenberg Audio - The Gutenberg Audio Book Project has a wonderful 
collection of audio books read by humans and computer generated voices. 
  d.. Kiddie Records Weekly - Hundreds of free recordings of classic children's 
albums. Kiddie Records features golden age characters like Bugs Bunny, Howdy 
Doody and Walt Disney's Robin Hood. 
  e.. Kids Audio Books - 200+ free audio books for kids in MP3 format. Most 
books are from the 40s and 50s. 
  f.. Learn Out Loud - Learn Out Load is the Internet's largest directory of 
free audio learning resources. The site also offers educational videos and 
podcasts. 
  g.. Librivox - There are nearly 2,000 free audio books available on this 
site. Librivox is attempting to make an audio recording of all of the books in 
the public domain, so new books are constantly being added. 
  h.. Lit 2 Go - A nice collection of free stories and poems from the Florida 
Educational Technology Clearinghouse. Users can download MP3 files or play MP3 
files on their computer and read along as they listen. 
  i.. Literal Systems - A modest selection of free audio classics. New books 
are added each quarter. 
  j.. Naropa Poetics Audio Archives - The Naropa University Archive Project 
features more than 5,000 hours of poetry recordings. 
  k.. Podio Books - Free audio books that can be delivered to you on a schedule 
that you set up. More than 200 modern titles are currently available. 
  l.. Poet Scoop - Poet Scoop offers hundreds of free MP3 recordings from 
spoken word artists. The site also includes videos of poets reading their work. 
  m.. Simply Audio Books - This site offers free classic audio books. A new 
download is available every month. 
  n.. Spoken Alexandria Project - This Creative Commons library provides free 
AAC, Ogg Vorbis, and MP3 audio books. Classics and modern works are available. 

Thanks to all for making the convention successful; thanks also to Blind 
Person's Association for the whole hearted support.
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 29, Issue 28

2008-09-08 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan
Hi all,
I am getting a new problem with Word as of the past week. Everytime I open 
and save a document in word, it refuses to save all subsequent changes and 
converts the file into a temp file and gives the message that the file 
cannot be saved due to a file permission error and do I want to resave. If I 
save it again, it does the same thing next time I make the change.
Any idea what might be the problem?
Thanks, Nirmita.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:30 PM
Subject: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 29, Issue 28


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> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. my unique problem (prateek aggarwal)
>   2. Re: CD drive not displaying (Abdul Razique)
>   3. Re: CD drive not displaying (Abdul Razique)
>   4. Using virtual keyboard with Jaws (Geetha Shamanna)
>   5. Google ad frames and Jaws (Geetha Shamanna)
>   6. Re: Google ad frames and Jaws (Kiran Kaja)
>   7. Re: railway concession certificate (phani srikanth)
>   8. Re: Google ad frames and Jaws (Vikas Kapoor)
>   9. Re: Using virtual keyboard with Jaws (Vikas Kapoor)
>  10. Re: Google ad frames and Jaws (Kiran Kaja)
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 20:00:21 +0530
> From: "prateek aggarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [AI] my unique problem
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> friends, this seems like a unique problem which i'am facing from quite
> a few days.
> actually,   even after editing the subject, my messages are not
> appearing  as  reply to any  mail of this list.
> i mean to say that even after inserting RE:  my messages  does not
> appears   as  it's reply.   instead,  they   appears as seprate topic
> which seems absulute inconviniant.
> recently,  a obvious doubt arise in rakesh sir's mind  that in which
> regards  i was talking.
> nonverthy mentioning,   but i was also surprized after reading   that
> message that why it not appeared as reply of a message which  was
> originally posted by pradeep banaker sir (Default Facts about
> "NOKIA").
> the same problem i'am facing from few days.insidencely, i could
> not reply that much during these days due to my tight schedule,
> therefore,  niether i focused on same nor any one else.
> the shocking thing is that there is no problem with the content of the
> subject.every thing is placed rightly.  i'am surprized that why
> suddenly it started creating problem while   it was working well few
> days back.
> if you have archive mails available in your inbox,  you yourself can
> check that every thing is ok with their subject.
> i'am unable to understand the reason why it happening.
> any help in this regards  will be vallued.
> with profound regards,
> prateek agarwal.
> cell: 09928341197
> e-mails:
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> ---
> you can visit my website for lots of stuff related to visually
> impaired and others.
> please go on to
> www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 20:05:22 -0700
> From: "Abdul Razique" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [AI] CD drive not displaying
> To: 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Sir,
>
> CD or DVD drive is not present in the device manager as well. What to do?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] CD drive not displaying
>
>
>> It is quite possible that you may have disabled the CD drive accidently.
>> To
>> fix it, if that be the case, go to the properties of your computer, in 
>> the
>> hardware tab, in device manager, locate your cursor on CD/DVD drive and
>> right click it and there in you can check whether it is enabled or
>> disabled.
>> Vikas Kapoor,
>> MSN Id:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas,
>> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Abdul Razique" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Access India" 
>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:25 AM
>> Subject: [AI] CD drive not displaying
>>
>>
>> Hello list members,
>>
>> The "My Computer" folder of my laptop is not displaying the CD drive for
>> more than a month now. As a result, I am not able to access any CD's in 
>> my
>> laptop. I would be thankful if anyone comes up with a solution to this
>> pr

[AI] advise on laptop purchaseRe: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 28, Issue 104

2008-08-27 Thread Nirmita Narasimhan
Hi everyone,
I am Nirmita from Bangalore.  My organisation (CIS) is planning to get me a 
laptop and had asked me for preferences for both comp brand as well as OS. I 
generally surfed the net and came up with HP DV9734TX WITH INTEL CORE 2 DUO, 
since HP is one I haven't tried before. But everyone else is getting Lenovo. 
While I have a choice, I just wanted to get inputs before we actually go 
ahead and buy the machines. Could anyone who has used either of these 
machines or knows about them give me some feedback on them? For instance how 
is the key pad and how are the speakers etc? And could you also suggest a 
really good brand to go in for? Budget is within 80k.
Looking forward to your response, cheers, Nirmita.

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> From: "payal kapoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [AI] volunteers required
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> dear all
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> i am pasting a request for volunteers in hyderabad, vishakapatanam, and 
> tirupati by samrita trust, an organisation working towards providing audio 
> study material to vi students in  andhra pradesh. the managing trustee air 
> vice marshal sastry has in his mail outlined his requirement. it would be 
> of great help if we could garner the required support to enable this work 
> to gain momentum and a larger audience be addressed. you can either get in 
> touch with me at this e mail id or contact a v m sastry directly at- 
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> thanks, in anticipation..
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> From:
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> 'Payal Kapoor'
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> Harish Kotian
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Volunteers in Hyderabad
> Dear Payal,
> I am a small man doing small work. So my requirement of volunteers is 
> small. I give below scope of work for volunteers and numbers required.
> Hyderabad --SIX
> Two to install sftware in PCs of local colleges and train the teachers 
> there, so they can train VI students. 10 colleges in total. I can give 
> locations
> if you like.Software will be given by me on CDs.One is screen reader SAFA 
> and another Multi ligual Editor.Same can follow up with colleges on use of 
> audio
> books and CD players given to them.
> Four for reading audio books at their homes and give me recorded data. One 
> needs a PC or laptop and I will give software to load for recording.
> One.At my home to help me with copying CDs, typing letters and such work. 
> In addition visit Govt offices to progress my cases with them.
> Tirupathi-One/Two Same job as for two in Hyderabad with colleges. Four TTD 
> colleges are there with 200 VI students.
> Visakhapatnam- Same as Tirupathi. Four colleges with 30 students.
> If you can find some for these tasks, it is great progress for Samrita 
> Trust.They can get in touch with me by email till 30 Sep 08 and in person 
> later.
> Thank you for your help.
> Sastry
> Samrita Trust
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> Warm Regards
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> Payal Kapoor
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> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:29:26 +0800
> From: "manoj gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [AI] computer training center in kolkata
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> Thanks a lot for this comprehensive and valuable information.
>Regards,
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