Re: [AI] Online promo

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Greetings Rahul:

About 15 years ago, there used to be a website called We The People where you 
could simply log in and chat with other visually impaired folks from all over 
the world mostly from the US. 

A few Access India members who are still on this list used to participate on 
that website and if you wanted to enter a private room, you could do that too 
and engage in a private conversation. 

No agenda was ever set during discussions and you could shoot the breeze ever 
which way.

The website subsequently disappeared owing to a lack of funding. 

You could try that on Google Meet and if the numbers get too large, we can 
definitely explore other online options down the road. 

I am not voting for either a Whatsapp group or a mailing list because they are 
mostly static and you can't hear people talking within the primary interface.

In any case, there are way too many Whatsapp groups floating around for just 
about everything.

I encourage Access India members to participate in this discussion, especially 
those who were active on www.we-the-people.com.

It does not hurt to try.

Thoughts?


Rajesh from Noida


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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Online promo


Aravind, it has not been created yet currently, I am looking for feedback and 
suggestions from all members


On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 7:51 PM, Aravind R  wrote:

  Kindly send the link to join the initial group link if created sir.


  On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 19:50, Aravind R  wrote:

Yes sir. separate promo group will be a good choice. 


On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 19:26, rahul agarwal  wrote:

  Hello everyone


  Coming up with different IDEA



  I have experienced something which made me more worried after making 
Hangout group.kindly guide me whether i am on the right track or not.
  I have observed that people are very worried about their jobs, business 
growth and selling their professional service. These worries are stopping them 
for social interactions. Hence, i am thinking to make a ‘promo’ group under the 
same umbrella ‘hangout. The structure of the group would be:


  1. A businessman can promote their businesses.
  2. A job seeker showcase this/her talent
  3. A professional can sell their services.
  4. But no promotion is allowed by any employer and a client because there 
are already so many platforms available for them. However, they must be a part 
of thiscommunity because they are those who would support them.


  I believe this group will help to a large extent. The beauty of this 
group  that people without disability and people with disabilities would be a 
part of the same community.
  Please advise me whether i should create this group or not.i look forward 
to hearing from you.


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Re: [AI] Score Foundation's Foundation Day, Celebrating 22 Years of Lighting the Way.

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Greetings George:

Congratulations on the phenomenal work you have performed for our community 
in India and abroad. You are indeed a trail blazer and I do wish you best in 
your future endeavors.

A tip of the hat is indeed in order!


Rajesh from Noida


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Subject: [AI] Score Foundation's Foundation Day, Celebrating 22 Years of 
Lighting the Way.

Dear Friends and Supporters,

As we turn the page on another year, Score Foundation stands tall, 
celebrating a remarkable 22 years of empowering and advocating for the 
people living their lives with blindness in India. Since 2002, our journey 
has been one of unwavering commitment to breaking down barriers and creating 
a world where blindness is not a limitation, but a strength waiting to be 
unleashed.

We began by igniting a spark of information with our radio series on All 
India Radio, "Eyeway Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan," guiding and inspiring 
countless individuals. We further illuminated the path with the "Nazar Ya 
Nazariya" TV series on Doordarshan, showcasing the vibrant lives and 
achievements of those who defy visual limitations.

Recognizing the power of connection, we launched the national Eyeway 
helpdesk, becoming a trusted source of support and information for the 
visually challenged. We further expanded our reach with accessible 
communication channels like SMS and WhatsApp broadcasts, ensuring 
inclusivity at every step.

Today, 22 years later, Score Foundation's flame burns brighter than ever. 
Our podcasts continue to empower and educate, while our unwavering advocacy 
efforts strive to create a more inclusive India where the talents and 
contributions of the visually challenged are not only valued but celebrated.

This Foundation Day, we celebrate not just our achievements, but the 
incredible community that fuels our journey. Your support, both past and 
present, has been instrumental in enabling us to light the way for countless 
individuals.

Join us in celebrating 22 years of making a difference!

Throughout the week, we'll be sharing inspiring stories, glimpses into our 
ongoing projects, and exciting plans for the future. Stay tuned to our 
social media channels for more!

With gratitude,
The Score Foundation Team.

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Re: [AI]

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Greetings Cauvery:

I have often noticed that it is impractical to walk in a straight line 
shoulder-to-shoulder with the sighted individual in the middle. 

The hallway might be narrow in an indoor situation, there might be people 
walking from the direction where you are headed, or there might be way too much 
traffic on the street. 

It is best and safe, therefore, to walk one behind the other train style thus 
eliminating the possibility of serious mishaps. 

There is no loss of dignity here.

If at least two of the visually impaired persons use a cane and have mobility 
training,the sighted guide and one visually impaired team member could lead the 
group with two following with their canes. The front line can not only serve as 
a shield but the sighted person could do a running commentary gently guiding 
the two behind with comments like:

"Slow down"

"Two steps coming up"

"A slight slope ahead"

And so on. 

I am sure you get the drift.
 
Rajesh from Noida


 
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2024 11:56 AM
Subject: [AI] 


Question of dignity? There were three visually impaired students and one 
sighted volunteer, the sighted volunteer grabbed the hand of one VI student and 
asked  the other two to keep their hands on each other shoulders, asked the 
other two to walk behind the first one, essentially, forming a train. I would 
like to know from you all is it a dignified way? If not, what would be a 
dignified way to assist three VIs by one sighted volunteer? Thank you.

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Re: [AI] Using uber as a mode of transport and how to commute by rikshaw independently

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Greetings Saurav:

Unless there is a government mandate for all ride sharing aggregators to assist 
the disabled community, our struggles with public transportation will continue 
unabated. 

Try this:

Put up a neatly typed notice on your college's public notice board in 15 point 
font saying that you would like to share a ride daily between your location and 
the college in both directions. Also, mention that you are willing to share the 
petrol expenses.  Put your name and phone number at the bottom.

You can also replicate this message on the college Whatsapp groups to which you 
belong.
 
I can assure you that you will definitely get a few calls. 

Let us hope you get more than one call because if your collegemate one has no 
classes on a specific day, you have the option to call collegemate two or three.

Another underlying advantage of this arrangement is that your collegemate will 
walk you up to your college's hallway.  Moreover, you might make new friends 
and even become a part of a group with whom to hang around.
 
Maintaining a private car and driver comes with a huge number of challenges 
these days not to mention the costs associated with such a solution. Personal 
drivers often do not show up for work when you have an urgent engagement.

Thanks.


Rajesh from Noida



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Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Using uber as a mode of transport and how to commute by 
rikshaw independently


hi Saurav,
having a private chauffeur is the best convenience that you can have.
among all the points put out here, the accessibility of the apps are also a 
primary thing to consider.
say, I installed Rapido yesterday, it worked once and now the search field is 
showing bullets as in when you enter the password.
I have no idea as to what went wrongg
at the right times, the updates may make them inaccessible and cause you delays 
and all the troubles.
the Indian companies do not take the accessibility seriously although there are 
enormous efforts from our community.
they are just thick-skinned and apathetic to the blind and the disabled in 
plain words.


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  Hi,



  Uber does allow you to define contacts such that you can share your live 
location with them through its app.




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Re: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not off-topic for the blind!!

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Greetings yamuna:

Hare Krishna!

This is most interesting indeed.

I have never heard of this company but will surely check them out first thing 
tomorrow and place an order too. 

I also plan to leave a review on Amazon featuring my appreciation post 
purchase.  I also encourage others to do the same. 

As they say, there is strength in numbers.

I have always believed that reservations, promotions, special programs and so 
on for our community are mostly lip service. Only a handful of organizations 
are performing genuine work like this one. 
Thanks and regards,


Rajesh from Noida

- Original Message - 
From: Yamuna Jivana Dasa 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 10:16 PM
Subject: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not 
off-topic for the blind!!


Hi friends,

 

A few weeks back, my wife bought some shower gel on Amazon. Seemed like an 
ordinary event and I thought nothing of it.

When the package arrived, my eldest son excitedly brought it to me. “Baba! 
Baba! Come check this out” he exclaimed as he put the bottle into my hands.

Not thinking much of it I asked “What is this?” without much examination of the 
bottle. “sShower gel” he said, still excited. “Feel the bottle”.

Somehow I still didn’t catch on, as I fingered lamely around the bottle’s 
edges. “Ok Nice”, I said. “Go pack this away now”.

“No! Feel the face of the bottle. Feel properly.” He insisted. I now knew 
something was up so with more alertness I carefully examined the face of the 
bottle.

Before I could even figure it out he exclaimed “Braille!” And he was right. Not 
just that, but both the front face and on the rear face had a whole lot of 
braille.

On the front face across the short side was written in short single lines as 
follows:

Fiama

Shower

Gel

 

On the opposite face, this time along the length of the bottle was written, 
again in beautiful braille letters along the length of the bottle this time:

Patchouli

And macadamia

 

It was uncontracted, no capitalization of letters, the dots felt somewhat faded 
on the plastic label, but still it was a pleasant surprise indeed. Coming to 
India I wasn’t sure I would ever see beautiful braille again, here in the 
village of Vrindavana.

 

Just for this fact I would like to keep buying this product, to simply say 
thank you for remembering us on the fringes of society, while most others see 
us as nothing more than disabled people that might at least be able to sing for 
some handout. We now bought 4 bottles in total for the moment, and every 
morning I can’t help running my fingers over the braille when I take some out 
to shower my body. It just feels so warmly familiar.

 

Just wanted to share this small yet heart-warming story of my own personal 
experience.

 

With kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa


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[AI] Any bankers from Axis Bank or Canara Bank on the list?

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Dear All,

 

If there are any bankers from Canara Bank or Axis bank on this list, may I 
please have your email address or phone number? 

 

One of our applicants who wishes to attend this university for the amazing 
quality of their disability and access services is visually impaired. 

 

In my 20 years of work in the study abroad and overseas education industry, I 
have never seen such a message which is reproduced below.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Rajesh from Noida

9871856287

reach@gmail.com

 

PS:

 

Profuse apologies in advance to Harish Sir if this message is OT.

 

The message received by my company is appended:

 

Dear University of South Whales Partner,

 

We are writing to inform you of an important update regarding the acceptance of 
bank statements and loan documents for students joining the University of South 
Wales United Kingdom in the February 2024 intake.

 

Recently, the UK Visas and Immigration (UKVI) has identified a concerning 
trend, with a high percentage of forged loan and bank statement documents 
originating from Axis Bank and Canara Bank. As a result, The University of 
South Wales has made the decision not to accept bank statements or loan 
documents from Axis Bank or Canara Bank for the upcoming February 2024 intake 
onwards.

 

We understand the significance of this change and its potential impact on your 
students. To ensure a smooth transition, we are providing this notice well in 
advance. By doing so, we hope to give your students ample time to implement any 
necessary changes and switch banks in compliance with the 28-day rule required 
for the February intake.

 

Should you have any questions or concerns regarding this matter, please do not 
hesitate to reach out to us. 

 

 

 

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Re: [AI] Regarding windows 11

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madam,

your i20 is ok the input and output numbers same

AE will send u documents 

pls start ds160 today itself -- very late you are !!


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Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding windows 11


I reimmaged my old laptop I want to upgrade to windows 11
Please contact Me offthelist if any one has windows11



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  Office 365 must be purchased, don’t know sharing can be accepted here for I b 
m t t s or not.

  As for as my concern, most of the laptops comes with stand alone versions of 
the office by default.







  This email I d is used only for list subscriptions.

  Thanks and regards.

  Shankar.C

  For offline comminucations please reach-out  on below shared details.

  Mobile/whatsapp: 7795927572.

  Email: shanka...@tech-accessibility.in.

  Website: www.tech-accessibility.in.



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  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 10:59 AM
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  Hi all
  I got new laptop
  Can anyone help me  with windows 11 and office365 
  And latest version of nvda with elequence addon

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Re: [AI] microsoft word course for visually impaired

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Dear Shahzada,

I have never seen your message on Access India before and can therefore 
safely assume that this is your first message to the group.

I will preface my observations by saying that your comments are totally 
uncalled for and in very poor taste indeed especially given the fact that 
you have never contributed to the list before.

Have you written to the trainer yourself to validate his credentials? Have 
you communicated with the trainer to request references? Have you requested 
the trainer to share a review with you? I guess not.

You happen to be embracing the standard dictum: Guilty unless proven 
innocent.

Instead of hurling abuses at the trainer, it is best that you conduct your 
own due diligence by communicating with the trainer directly first before 
you misuse this national, perhaps global platform, Access India,  to reveal 
the cantankerous side of your personality.

Take some time out instead to give a positive spin on reality. Share your 
learning experiences with others. Be a guiding light.

It is very ironic indeed that some visually impaired individuals constantly 
expect a free ride on products and services across the board. There is no 
free lunch out there and your mind set is definitely due for a 
transformative experience.

As far as I am concerned, I have already checked out the trainer through a 
third party and plan to enroll with him soon for training.

Just to put things in perspective for you, the going rate in Delhi for one 
on one computer training delivered by a sighted trainer is Rs. 800 an hour 
and up and not Rs. 750 for  45 days which is literally a pittance.

If you find the amount excessive which by the way it is not, may I humbly 
urge you to please sign up and enroll with one of the dozen NGOs who offer 
free computer training instead of trying to discourage a fellow community 
member who is attempting to make an honest living.

Rajesh from Noida


- Original Message - 
From: "'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] microsoft word course for visually impaired


My friend,
He is not imposing you to pay and only interested candidates can take
this course.
I personally took his course on gSuit and it is quite useful as I use
it for work.
In my case; I would not even have known such special dedicated tutor
is available for my digital upskilling if he has not broadcasted this
in this group.
In my opinion; his broadcast message is absolutely justified.
Jai Hind!!!
Asif

On 2/10/21, Shahzada Saleem  wrote:
> Hello guys this is Shahzada.
> Today I had seen an email saying some kind of training on Microsoft
> word for 45 days from Ranga Swami,
> That is not an issue.
> Issue is that he is demanding 750 something for 45 days?
> Is it ethical?
> He is also a blind person and why he is trying to steel a big amount
> from his blind brothers and sisters.
> If he is willing to provide training so 100 or 200 is enough!
> And he is not from any NGO and not providing any certification  so 750
> rupees is ok for 45 days?
> And one more thing I want to ask you all that why you guys allowing
> him to share these kind of information in this platform?
> Where are all moderators of this group? Why they are not taking action
> on that to stop these kind of information?
> Because most of the people will be mis guided by this message and they
> will take admitions and they can lose their money.
> I thing literary this is an spam!
> I would like to request all moderators of this platform that pleas pay
> attentions on these kind of things.
> Thanks!
> Regards.
>
>
> On 2/8/21, rangaswamy  wrote:
>> SHORT TERM BASIC MICROSOFT WORD TRAINING FOR PERSONS WITH VISUAL
>> IMPAIRMENT (PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL CLASS)
>>
>> This is to inform all of you that I Rangaswamy a technology trainer by
>> profession am organizing a 45 days  basic Microsoft word training for
>> persons with visual impairment
>> Duration of the training:45 days (Monday to Friday) 3Pm-5PM on zoom
>> Starting Date:15th February, 2021
>> Ending Date: 31st March , 2021
>>
>> This training will provide:
>> • Microsoft word 2016
>> -How to edit the document like inserting the character, deleting the
>> character
>> -Adding the word, deleting the word, adding a line
>> -How to read a paragraph  and  how to create a paragraph
>> - Formatting a document
>> -How to highlight a paragraph
>> - How to add bullets and numbers in Microsoft Word
>> - How to use different tab settings in Microsoft Word
>> - how to create a table in Microsoft Word
>> - How to insert and delete rows and columns in a table
>> -How to format rows and columns in a table
>> -How to merge cells, rows and columns in a table
>> -Inserting and deleting header and footer in Microsoft Word
>> - Inserting and deleting page break
>> -Inserting and deleting macro in Microsoft Word.
>> -Calculation of tables , rows and columns
>> - What is citation? How to create citations in different 

[AI] Article on Accessibility of memes from Time Magazine

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Greetings All:

 

While helping one of my students with her application for admission to Columbia 
University, I came across this article in Time Magazine. This article will 
especially interest those members who work in the field of accessibility. I 
have also provided the link to the article just in case you wish to explore the 
outbound links embedded in the article. I have read the article and find it to 
be most informative. This article appeared in the print version of Time 
Magazine lastyear.

 

 

Rajesh from Noida

 



Time Magazine  

URL: https://time.com/5759721/meme-accessibility-blind/ 

 

 

Memes Are Still Inaccessible to the Blind

 

 

If you've spent a lot of time on the internet in the last decade, you might 
immediately recognize this description: a toddler clenches his fist in front of 
a determined-looking face.  "Success kid"  is one of the most  popular online 
memes  in history. But for the 2.2 billion people worldwide who report  visual 
impairments  or blindness,  according to the World Health Organization, it is 
just one of thousands of images on the internet that are essentially illegible 
to anyone without full vision.  As millions like and re-share a viral post, 
people with visual impairments often find themselves locked out of the 
discourse. "It's frustrating," says Alex Stine, an 18-year-old recent graduate 
of the Kentucky School for the Blind who works in website accessibility. "When 
[I] come across [a meme], my screen reader reads 'graphic.'"  Experts who spoke 
with TIME say there's much more to be done to make memes universally enjoyable. 
 The most common practice for making images accessible online is through  
alternate text, better known as alt-text, which are descriptions embedded 
within a picture file. Screen readers, software applications that translate 
what's happening onscreen into braille or audio, can recognize a picture's 
alt-text and read it back for the user.  On TIME's website, for example, a 
picture of Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston at the Screen Actors Guild Awards on 
Jan. 19 has alt-text that reads, "Brad Pitt grabs Jennifer Aniston's right 
hand, as the two face each other smiling. Pitt has the trophy he won in his 
right hand, while Aniston's left hand is raised."  Brad Pitt and Jennifer 
Aniston attend the 26th Annual Screen Actors Guild Awards at The Shrine 
Auditorium on January 19, 2020 in Los Angeles, California. Emma McIntyre-Getty 
Images for Turner  That would work for screen reading software. But consider 
what happens when things get meme-d: like this meme, with the photo next to a 
screen grab of a scene from the TV show Friends, showing Monica (Courteney Cox) 
opening the apartment door to find Rachel (Aniston) and Ross (David Schwimmer) 
in the hallway, with closed captions showing Monica's line: "I'm sorry, 
apparently I opened the door to the past."  Without embedded alt-text, this 
combination of images becomes uninterpretable for those with impaired vision. 
Cole Gleason, a Ph.D. candidate at Carnegie Mellon University and the co-author 
of  Making Memes Accessible, a  research paper  analyzing the issue, says that 
the more fun aspects of daily life are often left on the back burner when it 
comes to accessibility work.   "There's a tendency in accessibility-related 
fields for people to focus on making the workplace accessible, and making 
transportation accessible, because those are daily needs," he says. "And people 
usually leave the recreational or silly or leisure activities to the later 
stages of accessibility, so humor was definitely not high on people's priority 
lists."  It's not just about missing out on the fun of memes like " woman 
yelling at a cat ." "In the age of Donald Trump, memes are cultural capital. 
People use memes to kind of talk truth to power," says Tasha Chemel, a 
34-year-old college academic coach who lives in Brookline, Mass. and is blind. 
"They can be cute or hilarious, but I feel like people also use them to really 
communicate what the world we live in now is like. So it's really hard to be 
left out of that conversation."  Barriers to participating in meme culture can 
also directly affect social lives. Qualik Ford, a senior at the Maryland School 
for the Blind and the president of the  Maryland Association of Blind Students, 
says the prevalence of memes makes it harder for him to connect with sighted 
friends. "Being a part of that culture is really important. Especially because 
I strive to have friends outside the blind community," says Ford. "I wish we 
could connect on this level."   And leaving out people with visual impairments 
doesn't just affect how those with disabilities can communicate online. "Having 
a part of the population that is not involved in that part of the conversation 
deprives them of the ability to participate, which is a significant loss, but 
also deprives the community of their participation," says Aser Tolentino, the 
accessible technology 

Re: [AI] GREETINGS!

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What an amazing app. Congratulations to the founder and the entire team for the 
vision, the focus and the eventual outcomes. Thanks to this app, I am finally 
on Whatsapp after having made several failed attempts to access Whatsapp in its 
traditional garb. Louie reduces the time it takes to perform standard Whatsapp 
functions by at least 50% if not more and since we as visually impaired folks 
sometimes take more time to perform standard functions, time is always of the 
essence. 

My experience also demonstrates the inability of mainstream apps to understand 
the essential fundamentals of accessibility. It goes without saying that it is 
lip service all the way from start to finish. The major global players are no 
exception. Here is an example:

The so called Voice Assistant from Big G was touted as an assistant especially 
for the visually impaired in a Google Conference which I was privileged to 
attend in person. In that case, even after so many years, why are several 
buttons on the home screen of the Assistant still unmarked? Talk Back, I am 
sure, delights itself and subsequently gets bored in saying unlabelled over and 
over again once the Assistant's home page is activated. The same challenge 
holds true for many other front runner apps as well.

I do not want to cite chapter and verse here but I can definitely cite dozens 
of instances where apps from the world's top three players are inaccessible in 
one way or the other. Are the accessibility teams at these mega corporations 
sleeping on the wheel and enjoying the proverbial eternal snooze? You bet!

The Indian banks, IRCTC, PayTM, on the other hand,  are an entirely different 
bag of ongoing accessibility challenges.

I think one of the attorneys in our Access India community should pick up the 
cudgels, take every violator to court and trigger hefty fines and penalties. 

Companies are not doing us any favors by paying attention to accessibility. It 
is the law both in spirit and in word. Attorneys should hit where it hurts the 
most, the corporate pocket book. Fortunately, there are several honorable 
jurors who have attempted to understand the challenges our community 
experiences every hour of the day. The recent letter to state courts regarding 
the accessibility of online legal resources is a case in point. We can 
therefore expect a certain level of support from the judiciary. 

Rajesh from Noida

  
 

Here is an example: 
- Original Message - 
From: Pratham Kumar Singh 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:25 AM
Subject: [AI] GREETINGS!


Greetings from NAB Delhi.
We are presenting another webinar on “Louie Voice Control” on Saturday the 26th 
of December 2020 at 05:00 PM.
Louie Voice Control is an App that enables visually impaired users to do each 
and everything within popular Apps with just voice commands. Louie is designed 
keeping the special needs of the visually impaired in mind, as the founder 
Pramit himself is visually impaired.
See Louie in action:
https://youtu.be/F0-y7087Kzg
Louie is one of its kind as it does a continuous two-way interaction with the 
users and does each and everything within a supported App. 
Louie currently supports YouTube, WhatsApp, Uber, Contacts and Phone Calls. 
Many more apps are on the way. 
See what Louie can do:
YouTube - skip Ads automatically, share video, post a comment, fast forward or 
rewind video by any number of seconds and much more...  
WhatsApp - share location, send & edit long text messages, make group calls, 
create a group, save & share contacts, delete messages or entire chats, play 
voice messages continuously one after another, block sender and much more...
Contacts - save new contact, edit, delete & block and phone calling
Uber - End-to-End booking, call/message driver, multiple stop booking, share 
trip, cancel booking and much more...
The webinar will be live on our YouTube channel. Visit
www.youtube.com/nabdelhionline
to join us.


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Re: [AI] Two questions about the modalities of making documents accessible

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Greetings Rahul:

Welcome back to India.

This is a challenge I encounter daily. Instead of taking a Word document and 
converting it directly into PDF, folks will first print the document out, 
scan it and then submit it to us as an attachment.

Why they choose the long way out absolutely beats me and will remain a 
mystery.

If you request the Word document version instead, half the time they will 
forget and apologize when you gently nudge them. Many of these documents are 
tied to assignments that tend to be highly time sensitive and hence 
immediate action is required.

Ironically, if 99% of the PDF documents one needs to use are accessible and 
1% is not, it is that 1% that is most critically required.

The only work around I have been able to figure out is to ask one of my 
employees to correct these documents live and manually using Adobe Acrobat, 
the version that allows PDF documents to be edited.

Once in a while, these PDF documents are security protected and since there 
is usually no time to request the sender to send us an unprotected version 
of the PDF, I am compelled to manually copy paste into Word and access them 
that way.

I will recommend that you post a requirement on www.internshala.com and find 
a law student in his or her second or third year of their law degree. These 
students will kill to associate themselves with you and the Supreme Court.

Many of these students need very powerful resumes to qualify for admission 
and scholarships at top tier law schools abroad, the student segment with 
which we work closely, and therefore you have lots of leverage. You will 
even be able to pick and choose your assistant.

While helping these students to gain admissions to LLB, JD  and LLM degrees 
abroad, my experience leads me to believe that law students from the various 
national law schools, Amity Law, IP University Law are the best with 
exceptional command over the English language. They will even be anxious to 
help you with legal research since that will be another bullet point on 
their resumes.

As much as others might like to claim, technology does not have a 100% 
tenable, iron-clad solution to this problem. And that is perfectly 
acceptable. Technology will never be able to solve all the challenges our 
community experiences.

Please drop me a line if you need any help with all this.

Best.

Rajesh
Noida

- Original Message - 
From: "Rahul Bajaj" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 12:27 AM
Subject: [AI] Two questions about the modalities of making documents 
accessible



> Hi, Everyone,
>
> I recently started clerking on the Indian Supreme Court. One
> accessibility issue that I am struggling with is this. My
> understanding is that lawyers prepare their PDF filings by printing
> out their work product and then scanning it. As opposed to simply
> converting their filings from word to PDF. As a result, a lot of text
> is difficult to decipher. Illustratively, one counter affidavit, in
> pertinent part, reads as follows:
> "starkly perceptible signs of influence with regard to
> allocation of cases to dffirent benches selectively, lo
> select judges who were perceived to be politically
> biased." .
> Such a disclosure creates an obligation ror every citizen to
> defend the independence of the Supreme Court.
> A copy of the Times of India report, "We felt then CJI was
> being remote controlled; Justice Kttrian Joseph", dated 3'd
> December 2018 is annexed as Annexu ,, C+ (lll't?7)."
>
> As you can see, some words are muffed up. The annexure number
> containing the Times of India report is also unclear. My sense is
> because they did not convert this document from word to PDF while
> filing and instead printed and scanned it. Is that right?
>
> Second, some scans are also in pixelated form, making their quality
> poor. Illustratively, part of an annexure reads as follows:
> "AND WHEREAS the Govemmc~nl of India has daclded to provide certain
> rela>:atlons for industnal ar.\’.! commercial acl1\·if1es from 20th
> Aprfl. 2020."
>
> Would asking for the filing of a typed copy of annexures of this
> nature be the best solution?
>
> Note that these are documents in the public domain. I am going to talk to 
> the Justice I am working for  and
> propose some solutions. And want to do my homework before I do this.
> Thank you.
>
> Rahul
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> --
> Rahul Bajaj
> Candidate for the MPhil in Law
> Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
> University of Oxford

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Re: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations cut from government staff salaries

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Greetings Pranayarani:

Your gripe is with The Hindu, the Government of India and perhaps with Mr. 
Modi too. It is  not with Mr. Avinash Shahi.

Please note that Mr. Shahi did not editorialize the Hindu article. He merely 
provided a link. Sharing a link to a news article does not imply 
endorsement.

Hence, according to your  post below, your issue is not with the off topic 
nature of the post but with the content of the Hindu news item.

Avinash was merely the bearer of bad tidings as far as you are concerned. So 
demolish the message, not the medium or the messenger!

Please consider sharing your perspective with the Hindu's op ed page much 
like what Mr. Rahul Bajaj from this list has done so brilliantly in the 
past. Please go to the Access India archives to read two of his expertly 
written Hindu op eds.

Rajesh
Noida



- Original Message - 
From: "pranayarani" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." ; "Reach Now" 
; "avinash shahi" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations cut 
from government staff salaries


don't be illogical! it should be related to the disability sector, foolish
defending, when the govt is paying salaries even if we don't attend office
for the whole month, can we not giveup a day's salary for the sake of the
nation? at this critical times, we should as disabilities persons must also
contribut our share.
- Original Message - 
From: "Aziz Minat" 
To: "Reach Now" ; "AccessIndia: a list for discussing
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled."
; "avinash shahi" 
Sent: 21 April, 2020 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations cut
from government staff salaries


>I fully agree with what Rajesh sir said. In the subject line it is clearly
> written news of interest. Aren't the differently abled in government
> sector? If yes then won't it affect them directly? We should not create
> the
> binary of black and white in these things.
>
> On Mon, 20 Apr 2020, 20:08 Reach Now,  wrote:
>
>>
>> For Heaven's sake please do not serve as a deterrence and a hyperactive
>> barrier to Mr. Avinash Shahi's selfless and honest efforts to bring
>> relevant information to this platform. Talking about off topic postings
>> is
>> analogous to opening a proverbial can of worms. If we get technical about
>> this and begin to cite chapter and verse about the number of off topic
>> postings on Access India, even the sky is not the limit. That said, these
>> off topic postings provide us a wealth of relevant information which may
>> traditionally remain inaccessible to us for one reason or another.
>>
>> Some areas are white, others are black and then there are grey areas as
>> well. Ours is an inclusive group and therefore if someone wishes to share
>> with our fraternity information about news related to disability, its
>> accessibility and technical status not withstanding, it is no way a
>> cardinal sin. I hope you will accept my recommendation in the true spirit
>> in which it has been rendered.
>>
>> This is the perfect opportunity for me to thank Mr. Shahi for his
>> insightful postings and references over the past so many years that has
>> kept professionals like us informed about news items which we may not
>> have
>> noticed otherwise. Mr. Shahi's subject lines are clear and concise. If
>> you
>> have no interest in the topic about which he is volunteering to inform
>> us,
>> a hop and a skip is a click away.
>>
>> Rajesh
>> Noida
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:20:08 +0530
>> From: "pranayarani" <
>> pranayara...@gmail.com>
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled." <
>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Subject: Re: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations
>> cut from government staff salaries
>> Message-ID: <
>> 003601d616e0$23d9a5c0$ba00a8c0@RAJATHPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> this mail is off-topic.  Also the news item is  inaccurate and biased.
>> Request the moderater to have a word with the sender of such mail.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "avinash shahi" <
>> shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>> To: "accessindia" <
>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: 19 April, 2020 11:38 PM
>> Subject: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-

Re: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations cut from government staff salaries

[Reach Now]

For Heaven's sake please do not serve as a deterrence and a hyperactive barrier 
to Mr. Avinash Shahi's selfless and honest efforts to bring relevant 
information to this platform. Talking about off topic postings is analogous to 
opening a proverbial can of worms. If we get technical about this and begin to 
cite chapter and verse about the number of off topic postings on Access India, 
even the sky is not the limit. That said, these off topic postings provide us a 
wealth of relevant information which may traditionally remain inaccessible to 
us for one reason or another.
  
Some areas are white, others are black and then there are grey areas as well. 
Ours is an inclusive group and therefore if someone wishes to share with our 
fraternity information about news related to disability, its accessibility and 
technical status not withstanding, it is no way a cardinal sin. I hope you will 
accept my recommendation in the true spirit in which it has been rendered. 

This is the perfect opportunity for me to thank Mr. Shahi for his insightful 
postings and references over the past so many years that has kept professionals 
like us informed about news items which we may not have noticed otherwise. Mr. 
Shahi's subject lines are clear and concise. If you have no interest in the 
topic about which he is volunteering to inform us, a hop and a skip is a click 
away.

Rajesh
Noida

 


Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:20:08 +0530
From: "pranayarani" <
pranayara...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled." <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations
cut from government staff salaries
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003601d616e0$23d9a5c0$ba00a8c0@RAJATHPC>
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this mail is off-topic.  Also the news item is  inaccurate and biased. 
Request the moderater to have a word with the sender of such mail.
- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" <
shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
To: "accessindia" <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: 19 April, 2020 11:38 PM
Subject: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations cut from 
government staff salaries

> 
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/coronavirus-pm-cares-donations-cut-from-government-staff-salaries/article31383279.ece?homepage=true
>
> -- 
> / Regards
>
> ?? / Avinash Shahi
> ?/ Assistant
>  ?? ?? ?/ Human Resource Management Department
> ?? ?? / Reserve Bank of India
>  ? /Lucknow RO
> ???/ Extension: 2232
>
>
>
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[AI] Making of a WhatsApp group containing all the members of

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Greetings All:

 

I am writing to express my concern regarding any effort made by current, past 
or future members of Access India to transform this group into another garden 
variety group by transitioning to the Whatsapp platform. 

 

While it is always an excellent value proposition to scale up to new 
technologies, the rationale needs to be sound and cogent. Those members who 
have access to the Whatsapp platform also enjoy seamless access to email 
messaging on their cellphones. 

 

Since email is fully accessible on hand held devices, transitioning to the 
Whatsapp platform makes little sense . 

 

I will grant that Whatsapp is indeed a more fashionable way to conduct 
communication today. That said, Access India is not about fashion. It is about 
serving a noble cause where hundreds of members help each other with their 
daily challenges. A legacy system needs to be genuinely flawed for it to be 
abandoned. Moreover, how will those members who use regular phones that are not 
smartphones access the mailing list? Not everyone is entirely comfortable with 
Android and IOS technologies all else being equal.

 

 Bottom line? I do not find any tangible reasons to discard the email protocol 
when it comes to the access India mailing list. Where this discussion goes and 
eventually terminates is entirely in the hands of the moderators. Nevertheless, 
I thought I would add my two cents worth while the subject is being debated.

 

Rajesh

Noida

 

 

   



Message: 2
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 07:24:34 +0530
From: neha aggarwal 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Making of a WhatsApp group containing all the members of
the access India mailing list
Message-ID: 
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Dear Axis Indians
Greetings hope that all is well
This is with reference to creating a WhatsApp group consisting of all the 
members of the access India mailing list
Yes no doubt today emails and of great significance but after WhatsApp has come 
in I thought it would be better also to have a WhatsApp group in order
to enhance better communication standards
Please let me know as to how this idea works out and in my opinion there should 
be a WhatsApp group
With regards



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Re: [AI] a happy news to share (Response)

[Reach Now]

Hi Akash:

I was referring to the bottom section of the home page of:

http://fluentzy.com/

Below the Fold and not to the bottom of my post.

Log into this website and search for the term PDF using the Control F search 
function. It will take you directly to the free PDF being given away on this 
website.

Please note, however, that the study course to increase one's spoken English 
capabilities available on this website is a paid product.

Sincerely,

Rajesh from Noida



- Original Message - 
From: "Akash Gupta" <aka.associ...@gmail.com>
To: "Reach Now" <reach@gmail.com>; "AccessIndia: a list for discussing 
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled." 
<accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] a happy news to share


hi
you have mentioned that
"Scroll down to the bottom of the page for a free PDF."
where is PDF? Please mention.

On 23/03/2016, Reach Now <reach@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
>
>
> Amar has listed several worthwhile suggestions in his post. English by no
> means is a tough nut to crack. However, there is a challenge which is easy
> to overcome. English has more exceptions than rules which calls for 
> intense
> real time practice as opposed to an exclusive study of grammatical
> principles. To reduce if not completely eliminate hesitation, you should 
> try
> to speak in English as much as possible and listen to spoken word 
> recordings
> in English. As they say, accepting the fact that there is indeed a problem
> worthy of correction is half the battle won.
>
>
>
> There are many online free English learning resources that help you to
> enhance your capabilities through real time interactive practice.
> Fortunately, most of them are accessible. Here are a few:
>
>
>
> http://learn-english-today.com/
>
>
>
> http://www.manythings.org/
>
>
>
> http://fluentzy.com/
>
> Scroll down to the bottom of the page for a free PDF.
>
>
>
> Once you are ready to test your language expertise, you can visit the
> following website to take a few free tests:
>
>
>
> http://www.englisch-hilfen.de/en/exercises_list/alle_grammar.htm
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> Rajesh from Noida
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 16:17:47 +0530
> From: Amar Jain <amarjain2...@gmail.com>
> To: accessindia <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] a happy news to share
> Message-ID:
> 

[AI] Featured Article on Accessibility in USA Today: Rajesh from Noida

[Reach Now]

Greetings:

 

Here is a fascinating article on the State of the Accessibility Challenge which 
appeared yesterday in USA Today. The total length of the article is 1401 words. 
If the article is any indication, Facebook should be able to catch up with 
Google with respect to accessibility in no more than a year or two. 

 

I will be speaking with Mr. King at 9:30 PM today local time. If there are any 
questions you would like me to ask on your behalf, please send them across to 
me at the email address which appears in the header of this message. Happy 
reading and now the featured article.

 

Rajesh from Noida

 

 

 

Matt King, a software engineer who has been blind

since college, came to Facebook last summer with a mission: to make

websites and mobile apps friendlier for people like him with disabilities.

 

King, 50, uses screen-reader software that turns Web pages and documents

into synthesized speech. The challenge he confronts every day: As many as

half of websites are nearly impossible for him to browse.

 

"There are not many products out there where you can say — actually it's

hard to name any — that the experience of using them as a person with a

disability is as good as it would be if you didn't have a disability," says

King who is part of a team at Facebook that focuses on accessibility, such

as providing closed captions for videos and keyboard shortcuts for people

who can't use a computer mouse.

 

Accessibility is a major problem that looms larger as the world's

population grows and ages and as more of everyday life — applying for

college or jobs, making a major purchase, getting health information —

happens online.

 

Websites are too seldom built with people with disabilities in mind. But

increasingly, tech giants from Microsoft to Yahoo are focusing on making

technology more accessible to everyone.

 

A major push is underway to add accessibility curriculum to computer

science programs and to educate software developers on how to build sites

and apps that don't shut out people with disabilities, whether they use

screen readers, mouth-controlled joysticks, closed captioning or

eye-tracking technology.

 

"There is certainly more of an interest in just the last five years from

these big companies in Silicon Valley," said Geoff Freed, director of

technology projects and Web media standards for the WGBH National Center

for Accessible Media.

 

It's also a hot topic at the 31st Annual International Technology and

Persons with Disabilities Conference being held in San Diego this week.

 

'SEE' A FACEBOOK PHOTO WITH CAPTIONS

 

Facebook is re-engineering its website and mobile apps, and it's

brainstorming a new generation of futuristic products that harness the

power of artificial intelligence to improve the experience of Facebook for

people with disabilities.

 

The first is an automated captioning tool launching in April that will help

the visually impaired "see" a photo on Facebook by describing what's in it.

 

The ever-quickening torrent of photographs and videos flooding Facebook

presents a big challenge for the visually impaired. King says he gleans

clues from the captions and comments, but "you really feel excluded when

you can't see the picture."

 

Even small bits of information can be helpful, King says. When a friend

uploads a new profile picture without a caption, the tool tells him there

is a person smiling in the photo. When a friend uploads a photo from her

phone, it says: "Image may contain: two people, one toddler, smiling,

outdoors."

 

"These are our very first baby steps," he says. In time, Facebook hopes to

provide a much fuller automated description of photographs and then videos.

"It's really the idea that we are including everybody in the conversation,"

he says.

 

ONE BILLION PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES

 

Tech companies aren’t focusing on disability access simply out of altruism.

Dependent on growth, they can’t afford to overlook large swaths of the

population. In the United States, one out of every five adults has a

disability, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Some 15% of the world's population, an estimated 1 billion people, have

disabilities.

 

Another factor: legal risk. Courts are divided on whether websites and

mobile apps are legally required to provide equal access to people with

disabilities under the 1990 Americans with Disabilities Act, which was

enacted before the Internet became as ubiquitous as it is today. But

advocates are increasingly filing lawsuits, claiming companies have a legal

obligation to make their websites as accessible as a retail store, movie

theater or restaurant.

 

The Department of Justice delayed a plan to issue accessibility regulations

until 2018, but in November said: "The inability to access websites put

individuals at a great disadvantage in today's society, which is driven by

a dynamic electronic marketplace and unprecedented access 

Re: [AI] a happy news to share

[Reach Now]

Hi:

 

Amar has listed several worthwhile suggestions in his post. English by no means 
is a tough nut to crack. However, there is a challenge which is easy to 
overcome. English has more exceptions than rules which calls for intense real 
time practice as opposed to an exclusive study of grammatical principles. To 
reduce if not completely eliminate hesitation, you should try to speak in 
English as much as possible and listen to spoken word recordings in English. As 
they say, accepting the fact that there is indeed a problem worthy of 
correction is half the battle won. 

 

There are many online free English learning resources that help you to enhance 
your capabilities through real time interactive practice. Fortunately, most of 
them are accessible. Here are a few:

 

http://learn-english-today.com/

 

http://www.manythings.org/

 

http://fluentzy.com/

Scroll down to the bottom of the page for a free PDF.

 

Once you are ready to test your language expertise, you can visit the following 
website to take a few free tests:

 

http://www.englisch-hilfen.de/en/exercises_list/alle_grammar.htm

 

Good luck!

 

Rajesh from Noida

 


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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 16:17:47 +0530
From: Amar Jain 
To: accessindia 
Subject: Re: [AI] a happy news to share
Message-ID:

[AI] (no subject)

[Reach Now]

I couldn't agree more with Professor Sayanekar.



Microsoft, in its infinite wisdom, has consistently chosen to over-innovate 
at the cost of user convenience. It is perfectly acceptable to enhance back 
end functionality with time as over-the-horizon technologies continue to 
evolve. That said, modifying the user interface, in fact, replacing a fully 
viable user interface and then pushing millions of users to the basement of 
the learning curve not just once but repeatedly, has never made any sense.



This is precisely why Microsoft isn't Google any more to which it lost its 
leadership position almost a decade ago. Visit the original Google home page 
from 2001 on archive.org and compare it to the Google home page of 2016 and 
you will be surprised to notice that the differences are marginal at best.



Although the back end functionality on Google's home page has come a long 
way, the front end UI essentially continues to remain the same. The links 
continue to remain text links and even the site links are managed by Google 
very professionally.



Several third party applications are available to give MS Word 2007 and 
above an MS Word 2003 look and feel. However, it isn't the same thing.



Just my two cents worth for what it is worth!





Rajesh from Noida





Original Message

Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 14:59:49 +0530

From: "Shyam M. Sayanekar" 

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues

concerning the disabled." 

Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Message-ID: <001101d1828b$10c75920$6aa6cc75@SayanekarPC>

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reply-type=original



Hello Mr. Ajay, it is easy to preach philosophy, but coping with that

philosophy is not easy for everyone.  Nobody says that we should not make

efforts, But when you say an outdated technology, there should be some

reason to turn the technology into an out dated one. What was wrong with

Office 2003, so that it was redundend? We never mind changes but they should

be for the betterment of the community, and not only for the whim of the

developers. The Microsoft Vista is the best example. That version of the

operating system totally went flop.  What was wrong with the nokia phones?

They could havbe improved those to the higher level.  My main objection is

that they never take into consideration the difficulties faced by the VI

persons, whose number is not neglijable. And it is only we, who have to keep

adjusting. Thanking you, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar











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Please give it a moment to transfer to a cell.

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Hi Yogesh sir,
I am using e5 since september 2011. I am very satisfied with it's
performance. Let me symplify the fact for you. If you just want calls,
SMSES, internet, GPS, and music e5 is certainly an excelent choice.
But if you are quite a tech geek type of a person If you love to play
with different apps then rather buy android. Because symbian doesn't
have that much apps.
regards

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 I have used nokia n79 but not e5. I m over all satisfied with my n79
 and now planning to shift to android based OS but unable to find out
 any appropreate phone or waiting for nokia windows phone to come with
 physical keypad.

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 Hello dear friends, hope you are safely enjoying the peak of Summer
 ceason.
 Has anyone of you used both Nokia N 79 and E 5? if yes, please share your
 experiences. Hope to receive your earliest guidance on this.
 With care and regards,
   Yogesh.

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