Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srikanth Kanuri]

which maps service does navigon use? is reliability fine? how about
accessibility. how about the accessibility of map me India offline
maps?

thanks
Srikanth

On 10/15/12, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe navigon works in India.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Srikanth Kanuri
 Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 hi all, just curious to know what GPS apps for IPhone are accessible
 in India? the original maps app is not totally accurate. are there any
 other apps which offers turn by turn navigation?

 On 10/11/12, nitesh gupta nitesh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I m using talks in nokia 5320.want 2 bye a new mobile in which screan
 reader is preloaded. is android is the answer?
 can I use it 4 face book  also 4 downloading.
 thanks.

 On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Yes, send a blank email to
 eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


 On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the
 camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this
 phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks
 by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update
 whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again
 which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much
 longer than

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srikanth Kanuri]

hi all, just curious to know what GPS apps for IPhone are accessible
in India? the original maps app is not totally accurate. are there any
other apps which offers turn by turn navigation?

On 10/11/12, nitesh gupta nitesh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I m using talks in nokia 5320.want 2 bye a new mobile in which screan
 reader is preloaded. is android is the answer?
 can I use it 4 face book  also 4 downloading.
 thanks.

 On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Yes, send a blank email to
 eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


 On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the
 camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this
 phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks
 by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much
 longer than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking
 at a high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.
 I
 would like some advice on this topic from those who are using
 either systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully
 accessible out of the box but I would like to have some more
 knowledge on Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Pranav Lal]

I believe navigon works in India.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Srikanth Kanuri
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

hi all, just curious to know what GPS apps for IPhone are accessible
in India? the original maps app is not totally accurate. are there any
other apps which offers turn by turn navigation?

On 10/11/12, nitesh gupta nitesh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I m using talks in nokia 5320.want 2 bye a new mobile in which screan
 reader is preloaded. is android is the answer?
 can I use it 4 face book  also 4 downloading.
 thanks.

 On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Yes, send a blank email to
 eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


 On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the
 camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this
 phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks
 by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much
 longer than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking
 at a high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.
 I
 would like some advice on this topic from those who are using
 either systems.  I am aware

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Kiran Kaja]

There are two ways for text entry. when you need to enter text, a qwerty
keyboard pops up on the bottom part of the screen. You can touch the
character you want to enter and then double tap. But once you get used to
the layout of the keyboard, you will notice that this is really slow. But
there is also a touch typing mode. In this mode, you just touch the
character you want to insert and lift your finger up from the screen. The
character is then inserted. If you don't find the character you want to
insert when you first touch the screen, not to worry. You can move along the
screen until you find the character and then lift your finger up. It won't
insert anything unless you lift your finger. For new users, I first suggest
the default typing mode which is touch the character and double tap anywhere
on the screen to insert. Once you become familiar with the layout of the
keyboard, you can switch to touch typing mode.

Remember that if you have iPhone 4S, you can use Siri's dictation feature. I
should say though that this isn't very accurate with Indian accent. The
other alternative is to also buy an external mini Bluetooth keyboard. These
are really small keyboards and can easily fit in a trouser pocket. There are
loads of models on eBay. And surprisingly they are not too expensive. I have
a mini keyboard but I hardly use it.

There are a lot of free apps that have excellent functionality. BBCNews for
example is free. All the social network apps, Twitter, FaceBook and Google
Plus are free. Even the paid apps cost on an average a dollar or two. But
you don't really have to spend money on apps. If you listen to music, you
have to use iTunes on your computer to get music on to the iPhone. I don't
particularly like using iTunes on the computer but it is easy enough to
import your music into it and sync it with iPhone. If you have WiFi
connection at home and have an unlimited data plan, you can listen to music
and radio without actually having to bother with iTunes. There are loads of
free apps for listening to radio stations around the world.

Here is the thing though, if you are pretty sure that you are only going to
use your phone for making calls and sending text messages, you probably
don't need an iPhone or a high-end Android smartphone. A Nokia C5 will just
do fine. And also, if you are going to have problems connecting to the
internet, you won't be able to make use of the iPhone's capabilities. all
smartphones including the iPhone rely heavily on being able to connect to
the internet either through WiFi or 3G. for example, there is now a Podcast
app on the iPhone. it automatically downloads the podcasts you are
subscribed to. You can listen to them offline but the iPhone needs a data
connection to download them in the first place. There is a maps app on the
iPhone which is becoming more and more accessible. Note that turn by turn
navigation is not yet available in India. This maps app also requires a data
connection. So I would say the running cost is your data connection cost and
this is true no matter which smartphone you are using.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Kiran
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Ekinath Khedekar
Sent: 10 October 2012 12:41
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi Kiran,

I am just wating for i5 to be launched here, so i4 prices fall further.

But can you throw some light on texting problems on iPhone. Do we have to
tab thrice on a letter?

How about it's general limitations like incompatibility with other devices
like our non-apple or blue tooth?

Does the download of various applications make it very expensive in terms of
it's operating cost?

Thanks in advance

On 10/9/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Kiran

 I was eagerly awaiting your intervention. I am now confused about 
 whether I will ever learn touch phones. Could you throw light on

 Ketantricks for this?

 On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a 
 Hindi TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface 
 of the iPhone or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi 
 like bbc.co.uk/Hindi, if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to 
 Hindi TTS for reading the text. Hindi is one of the options in 
 Settings  General  Accessibility  VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And 
 the TTS quality is very good in my opinion.

 I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind 
 users requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way 
 behind VoiceOver.
 I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and 
 Android JellyBean here 
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-androi
 d-jelly bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessi
 bility- continued-books-music-movies

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Kiran,

Thank you once again as always.

On another note, now there is a way of using google maps even on IOS 6 and 
of course there are a lot apps in India.


Further, for typing there is an app to use Iphone like a Braille keyboard in 
grade I.  This one costs $5 or so.


With best wishes,

Ketan

-Original Message- 
From: Kiran Kaja

Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:30 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

There are two ways for text entry. when you need to enter text, a qwerty
keyboard pops up on the bottom part of the screen. You can touch the
character you want to enter and then double tap. But once you get used to
the layout of the keyboard, you will notice that this is really slow. But
there is also a touch typing mode. In this mode, you just touch the
character you want to insert and lift your finger up from the screen. The
character is then inserted. If you don't find the character you want to
insert when you first touch the screen, not to worry. You can move along the
screen until you find the character and then lift your finger up. It won't
insert anything unless you lift your finger. For new users, I first suggest
the default typing mode which is touch the character and double tap anywhere
on the screen to insert. Once you become familiar with the layout of the
keyboard, you can switch to touch typing mode.

Remember that if you have iPhone 4S, you can use Siri's dictation feature. I
should say though that this isn't very accurate with Indian accent. The
other alternative is to also buy an external mini Bluetooth keyboard. These
are really small keyboards and can easily fit in a trouser pocket. There are
loads of models on eBay. And surprisingly they are not too expensive. I have
a mini keyboard but I hardly use it.

There are a lot of free apps that have excellent functionality. BBCNews for
example is free. All the social network apps, Twitter, FaceBook and Google
Plus are free. Even the paid apps cost on an average a dollar or two. But
you don't really have to spend money on apps. If you listen to music, you
have to use iTunes on your computer to get music on to the iPhone. I don't
particularly like using iTunes on the computer but it is easy enough to
import your music into it and sync it with iPhone. If you have WiFi
connection at home and have an unlimited data plan, you can listen to music
and radio without actually having to bother with iTunes. There are loads of
free apps for listening to radio stations around the world.

Here is the thing though, if you are pretty sure that you are only going to
use your phone for making calls and sending text messages, you probably
don't need an iPhone or a high-end Android smartphone. A Nokia C5 will just
do fine. And also, if you are going to have problems connecting to the
internet, you won't be able to make use of the iPhone's capabilities. all
smartphones including the iPhone rely heavily on being able to connect to
the internet either through WiFi or 3G. for example, there is now a Podcast
app on the iPhone. it automatically downloads the podcasts you are
subscribed to. You can listen to them offline but the iPhone needs a data
connection to download them in the first place. There is a maps app on the
iPhone which is becoming more and more accessible. Note that turn by turn
navigation is not yet available in India. This maps app also requires a data
connection. So I would say the running cost is your data connection cost and
this is true no matter which smartphone you are using.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Kiran
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Ekinath Khedekar
Sent: 10 October 2012 12:41
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi Kiran,

I am just wating for i5 to be launched here, so i4 prices fall further.

But can you throw some light on texting problems on iPhone. Do we have to
tab thrice on a letter?

How about it's general limitations like incompatibility with other devices
like our non-apple or blue tooth?

Does the download of various applications make it very expensive in terms of
it's operating cost?

Thanks in advance

On 10/9/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Kiran

I was eagerly awaiting your intervention. I am now confused about
whether I will ever learn touch phones. Could you throw light on

Ketantricks for this?

On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a
Hindi TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface
of the iPhone or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi
like bbc.co.uk/Hindi, if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to
Hindi TTS for reading the text. Hindi is one of the options in
Settings  General  Accessibility  VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And
the TTS quality is very good in my opinion.

I am probably

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[nitesh gupta]

I m using talks in nokia 5320.want 2 bye a new mobile in which screan
reader is preloaded. is android is the answer?
can I use it 4 face book  also 4 downloading.
thanks.

On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Yes, send a blank email to
 eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


 On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the
 camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this
 phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much
 longer than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking
 at a high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I
 would like some advice on this topic from those who are using
 either systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully
 accessible out of the box but I would like to have some more
 knowledge on Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the
 issue since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Kiran Kaja]

I have been using my iPhone for more than 2 years. And I have used it in all
sorts of environments with or without earphones. People who know me know
that I travel a lot for work and once you get used to a touchscreen it isn't
such an unreliable technology as you claim. Admittedly, text entry can be a
bit slower on a touch screen. But how many of us really got to grips with T9
predictive text input?

It is a personal choice of course but the iPhone lets me do a lot of things
that I am perfectly happy to get used to the touchscreen. The sad reality is
that fully featured smartphones with keypads and keyboards are becoming a
rare commodity. So we may have to adapt to the changing times if we want to
make use of the benefits provided by mobile technology.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Syed Imran
Sent: 10 October 2012 00:49
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

I always compare accessibility against the average user with sight. Since a
sighted user doesn't need to have the 'explore by touch' or any other
similar feature on, he or shee can quickly access the functionality of the
phone, be it iPhone or an Android phone. Therefore, the touchscreen
technology must undergo further changes to support tactical feedback on the
screen. I'm not saying the blind folks cannot operate the touchscreen phones
with existing solutions we have, all I'm saying is, it is very unreliable at
times. Imagine your in a very noisy environment and you've forgotten your
earphones and you want to use your phone. How will you deal with this
situation? No matter how big of an expert you are, you'll find it
bewildering to operate your phone. Isn't this a major drawback of whatever
existing solutions we have in dealing with touchscreen devices?
I'm not against this technology, but I'm concerned with our existing
solutions / approach to deal with touchscreens.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kiran Kaja
Sent: 10 October 2012 02:59
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

couple of tips for starters:

It is important to understand the basic concepts of touchscreen
accessibility. The idea is that you explore the items on the screen by
touching them with one finger. The device reads out the item currently under
your finger. It just reads it out and doesn't activate it. If you want to
activate the item, you would then double tap the screen. Double tapping the
screen involves tapping the screen with one finger twice quickly. You don't
have to precisely double tap on the item. Once you have selected the item
buy touching it, you can double tap anywhere on the screen to activate it.
There are a number of additional gestures which do a lot of things.

I suggest going through the iPhone user manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/ and particularly reading the
VoiceOver section under Accessibility section in the manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph3e2e4218.html.

Also, during the initial stages of learning, it is important to remember
that when exploring the screen, you should try not to touch the screen with
2 fingers simultaneously. This may accidentally activate things. the easiest
way to avoid this is to close all your fingers in a fist and just open the
index finger and explore the screen.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Kiran
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of BHAVESH
Sent: 09 October 2012 19:35
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi all,

I think all of us can use the touch screen devices efficiently. Even I was
also scared from the touch screen devices when I was given An I phone for
the first time at my company (Barrierbreak technologies).
However with some practice, I can now use it without hezitency! I can even
demo if required to sighted folks. even for those who are scared from
android, there are a few softwares like eyes-free keyboard to help you out.
or if your budget is a little higher, you can go for eyescrem sandwhich
devices, which has touch and explore feature built in talkback. and with the
powerfull GPS accuracy, android shines! I think if a totally blind person
like me can use the touch screen, then why cant you all use it??

All the best!
Bhavesh.

On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Hi,
 Ism low vision person too and find it with no difficulty..
 Best,
 Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:

 After reading the I Phone reviews, I wish it had physical keypad! I 
 am partially blind but the idea of having fully screen tuch phone is 
 scary for me.

 On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Comes build-in on all iPhones, iPads and iPods

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ekinath Khedekar]

Hi Kiran,

I am just wating for i5 to be launched here, so i4 prices fall further.

But can you throw some light on texting problems on iPhone. Do we have
to tab thrice on a letter?

How about it's general limitations like incompatibility with other
devices like our non-apple or blue tooth?

Does the download of various applications make it very expensive in
terms of it's operating cost?

Thanks in advance

On 10/9/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Kiran

 I was eagerly awaiting your intervention. I am now confused about
 whether I will ever learn touch phones. Could you throw light on

 Ketantricks for this?

 On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi
 TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the
 iPhone
 or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like
 bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
 if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the
 text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility 
 VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my
 opinion.

 I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users
 requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind
 VoiceOver.
 I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and
 Android
 JellyBean here
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
 bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
 continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.

 And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet.
 if
 as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you
 may
 be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy
 Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any
 additional
 skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
 believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
 devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.

 One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
 cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the
 other
 hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large
 4.8
 inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
 magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if
 it
 will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.

 Just my two cents worth...
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi,
 I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification..
 Requested
 him to post on the list, if he can...
 Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,

 I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
 intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
 but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
 it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
 clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.

 Ketan

 On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Dear Ketan -
 I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here
 in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
 -Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is
 a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
 some light.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi
 reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
 supported and vice versa.

 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed
 decision.smile



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
 On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my
 phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Syed Imran]

It is my personal choice to opt for a keypad and keyboard phone along with
capacitive touchscreen. After all, one size doesn't fit all.
many a times  I found it quite adventurous to read or text on my Samsung
Galaxy S i9000 with CM10 in the middle of a party where despite of
maximising the volume on my phone, one could hear just a little more than a
whisper and nothing else.

Of course, looking at the recent surge in touchscreen devices, I know many
people will get used to touchscreen sooner or later. It is a compremise that
we all have to make partly because it does not make much of a business sense
to our smartphone makers to launch phones with numerical keypad or qwerty
keypad. Espescially the high end phones, I doubt  very much if they're going
to come out with physical buttons. The trend doesn't say so.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kiran Kaja
Sent: 10 October 2012 12:58
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

I have been using my iPhone for more than 2 years. And I have used it in all
sorts of environments with or without earphones. People who know me know
that I travel a lot for work and once you get used to a touchscreen it isn't
such an unreliable technology as you claim. Admittedly, text entry can be a
bit slower on a touch screen. But how many of us really got to grips with T9
predictive text input?

It is a personal choice of course but the iPhone lets me do a lot of things
that I am perfectly happy to get used to the touchscreen. The sad reality is
that fully featured smartphones with keypads and keyboards are becoming a
rare commodity. So we may have to adapt to the changing times if we want to
make use of the benefits provided by mobile technology.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Syed Imran
Sent: 10 October 2012 00:49
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

I always compare accessibility against the average user with sight. Since a
sighted user doesn't need to have the 'explore by touch' or any other
similar feature on, he or shee can quickly access the functionality of the
phone, be it iPhone or an Android phone. Therefore, the touchscreen
technology must undergo further changes to support tactical feedback on the
screen. I'm not saying the blind folks cannot operate the touchscreen phones
with existing solutions we have, all I'm saying is, it is very unreliable at
times. Imagine your in a very noisy environment and you've forgotten your
earphones and you want to use your phone. How will you deal with this
situation? No matter how big of an expert you are, you'll find it
bewildering to operate your phone. Isn't this a major drawback of whatever
existing solutions we have in dealing with touchscreen devices?
I'm not against this technology, but I'm concerned with our existing
solutions / approach to deal with touchscreens.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kiran Kaja
Sent: 10 October 2012 02:59
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

couple of tips for starters:

It is important to understand the basic concepts of touchscreen
accessibility. The idea is that you explore the items on the screen by
touching them with one finger. The device reads out the item currently under
your finger. It just reads it out and doesn't activate it. If you want to
activate the item, you would then double tap the screen. Double tapping the
screen involves tapping the screen with one finger twice quickly. You don't
have to precisely double tap on the item. Once you have selected the item
buy touching it, you can double tap anywhere on the screen to activate it.
There are a number of additional gestures which do a lot of things.

I suggest going through the iPhone user manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/ and particularly reading the
VoiceOver section under Accessibility section in the manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph3e2e4218.html.

Also, during the initial stages of learning, it is important to remember
that when exploring the screen, you should try not to touch the screen with
2 fingers simultaneously. This may accidentally activate things. the easiest
way to avoid this is to close all your fingers in a fist and just open the
index finger and explore the screen.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Kiran
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of BHAVESH
Sent: 09 October 2012 19:35
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi all,

I think all of us can use the touch screen devices efficiently. Even I was
also scared from the touch screen devices when I was given An I phone for
the first time at my

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srinivasu Chakravarthula]

Hi,
I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification.. Requested him 
to post on the list, if he can... 
Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,
 
 I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
 intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
 but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
 it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
 clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Dear Ketan -
 I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here in the
 US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
 -Vasu
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear All,
 
 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is a
 way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
 some light.
 
 With best wishes,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
 writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
 supported
 and vice versa.
 
 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.
 
 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.
 
 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,
 
 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.
 
 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.
 
 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.
 
 Thanks and warm regards,
 
 Rahul
 
 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,
 
 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive)
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so
 that I can make my decision.
 
 With regards,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
 thanks.
 ashok kumar.
 
 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,
 
 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?
 
 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.
 
 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.
 
 With best wishes,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.
 
 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.
 
 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Kiran Kaja]

Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi
TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the iPhone
or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the
text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility 
VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my opinion.

I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users
requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind VoiceOver.
I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and Android
JellyBean here
http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.

And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet. if
as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you may
be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy
Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any additional
skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.

One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the other
hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large 4.8
inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if it
will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.

Just my two cents worth...
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi,
I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification.. Requested
him to post on the list, if he can... 
Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,
 
 I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must 
 intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever 
 but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe 
 it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do 
 clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Dear Ketan -
 I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here 
 in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
 -Vasu
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear All,
 
 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is 
 a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw 
 some light.
 
 With best wishes,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi 
 reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not 
 supported and vice versa.
 
 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed 
 decision.smile
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
 On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my
phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.
 
 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.
 
 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,
 
 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may 
 upgrade the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the 
 specifications are good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.
 
 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a 
 Tablet which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, 
 I am yet to explore things, as screenreading software is not 
 inbuilt, I need to download first.
 
 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.
 
 Thanks and warm regards,
 
 Rahul
 
 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,
 
 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively 
 expensive) or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Kiran

I was eagerly awaiting your intervention. I am now confused about
whether I will ever learn touch phones. Could you throw light on

Ketantricks for this?

On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi
 TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the
 iPhone
 or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like
 bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
 if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the
 text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility 
 VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my opinion.

 I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users
 requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind
 VoiceOver.
 I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and Android
 JellyBean here
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
 bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
 continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.

 And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet. if
 as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you may
 be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy
 Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any
 additional
 skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
 believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
 devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.

 One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
 cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the other
 hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large 4.8
 inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
 magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if it
 will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.

 Just my two cents worth...
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi,
 I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification.. Requested
 him to post on the list, if he can...
 Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,

 I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
 intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
 but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
 it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
 clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.

 Ketan

 On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Dear Ketan -
 I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here
 in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
 -Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is
 a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
 some light.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi
 reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
 supported and vice versa.

 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed
 decision.smile



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
 On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my
 phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may
 upgrade the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the
 specifications are good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a
 Tablet which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone,
 I am yet to explore things, as screenreading software is not
 inbuilt, I need to download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[bhawani shankar verma]

does voice over come with iphone or ipad? or one has to download and install 
it separately.


- Original Message - 
From: Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3



Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi
TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the 
iPhone
or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like 
bbc.co.uk/Hindi,

if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the
text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility 
VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my 
opinion.


I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users
requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind 
VoiceOver.

I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and Android
JellyBean here
http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.

And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet. if
as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you may
be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy
Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any 
additional

skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.

One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the other
hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large 4.8
inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if 
it

will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.

Just my two cents worth...
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi,
I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification.. Requested
him to post on the list, if he can...
Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear Friends,

I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.

Ketan

On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:

Dear Ketan -
I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here
in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
-Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear All,

Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is
a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
some light.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:

Dear Ketan and others,
This may add to your disappointment.
Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi
reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
supported and vice versa.

I am adding to the list so that you take the informed
decision.smile



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my

phone.

Internet, I haven't used it.

On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:

r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Ketan,

My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may
upgrade the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the
specifications are good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a
Tablet which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone,
I am yet to explore things, as screenreading software is not
inbuilt, I need to download first.

Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srinivasu Chakravarthula]

Ketan,
Knowing you, I am sure you can learn quickly but you will be more happy with 
iPhone than android... 
Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Kiran
 
 I was eagerly awaiting your intervention. I am now confused about
 whether I will ever learn touch phones. Could you throw light on
 
 Ketantricks for this?
 
 On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi
 TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the
 iPhone
 or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like
 bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
 if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the
 text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility 
 VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my opinion.
 
 I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users
 requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind
 VoiceOver.
 I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and Android
 JellyBean here
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
 bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
 continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.
 
 And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet. if
 as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you may
 be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy
 Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any
 additional
 skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
 believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
 devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.
 
 One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
 cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the other
 hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large 4.8
 inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
 magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if it
 will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.
 
 Just my two cents worth...
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 Hi,
 I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification.. Requested
 him to post on the list, if he can...
 Vasu
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear Friends,
 
 I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
 intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
 but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
 it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
 clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Dear Ketan -
 I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here
 in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
 -Vasu
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear All,
 
 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is
 a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
 some light.
 
 With best wishes,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi
 reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
 supported and vice versa.
 
 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed
 decision.smile
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
 On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my
 phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.
 
 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.
 
 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,
 
 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may
 upgrade the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the
 specifications are good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.
 
 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srinivasu Chakravarthula]

It comes with all I devices... No need to download...

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 9, 2012, at 6:18 AM, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 does voice over come with iphone or ipad? or one has to download and install 
 it separately.
 
 - Original Message - From: Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 
 Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi
 TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the iPhone
 or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
 if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the
 text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility 
 VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my opinion.
 
 I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users
 requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind VoiceOver.
 I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and Android
 JellyBean here
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
 bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
 continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.
 
 And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet. if
 as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you may
 be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy
 Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any additional
 skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
 believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
 devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.
 
 One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
 cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the other
 hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large 4.8
 inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
 magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if it
 will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.
 
 Just my two cents worth...
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 Hi,
 I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification.. Requested
 him to post on the list, if he can...
 Vasu
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear Friends,
 
 I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
 intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
 but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
 it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
 clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Dear Ketan -
 I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here
 in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
 -Vasu
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear All,
 
 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is
 a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
 some light.
 
 With best wishes,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi
 reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
 supported and vice versa.
 
 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed
 decision.smile
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
 On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my
 phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.
 
 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.
 
 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,
 
 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may
 upgrade the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the
 specifications are good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.
 
 All those apps you refered can be used

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Vasu and Kiran,

I am looking for some specific tricks and do's and don'ss. Please do help.

Ketan

-Original Message- 
From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula

Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:56 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Ketan,
Knowing you, I am sure you can learn quickly but you will be more happy with 
iPhone than android...

Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear Kiran

I was eagerly awaiting your intervention. I am now confused about
whether I will ever learn touch phones. Could you throw light on

Ketantricks for this?

On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi
TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the
iPhone
or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like
bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the
text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility 
VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my 
opinion.


I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users
requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind
VoiceOver.
I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and 
Android

JellyBean here
http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.

And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet. 
if
as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you 
may

be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy
Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any
additional
skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.

One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the 
other
hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large 
4.8

inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if 
it

will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.

Just my two cents worth...
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi,
I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification.. 
Requested

him to post on the list, if he can...
Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear Friends,

I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.

Ketan

On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:

Dear Ketan -
I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here
in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
-Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear All,

Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is
a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
some light.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:

Dear Ketan and others,
This may add to your disappointment.
Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi
reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
supported and vice versa.

I am adding to the list so that you take the informed
decision.smile



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my

phone.

Internet, I haven't used it.

On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:

r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Ketan,

My phone

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Kiran Kaja]

Comes build-in on all iPhones, iPads and iPods. What's more, if you have a
new device, you can start VoiceOver on your own to setup the device.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 09 October 2012 14:19
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

does voice over come with iphone or ipad? or one has to download and install

it separately.

- Original Message - 
From: Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi
 TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the 
 iPhone
 or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like 
 bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
 if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the
 text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility 
 VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my 
 opinion.

 I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users
 requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind 
 VoiceOver.
 I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and Android
 JellyBean here

http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
 bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and

http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
 continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.

 And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet. if
 as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you may
 be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy
 Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any 
 additional
 skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
 believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
 devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.

 One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
 cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the other
 hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large 4.8
 inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
 magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if 
 it
 will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.

 Just my two cents worth...
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf
 Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi,
 I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification.. Requested
 him to post on the list, if he can...
 Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,

 I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
 intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
 but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
 it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
 clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.

 Ketan

 On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Dear Ketan -
 I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here
 in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
 -Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is
 a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
 some light.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi
 reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
 supported and vice versa.

 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed
 decision.smile



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
 On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my
 phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Shona Man]

After reading the I Phone reviews, I wish it had physical keypad! I am
partially blind but the idea of having fully screen tuch phone is
scary for me.

On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Comes build-in on all iPhones, iPads and iPods. What's more, if you have a
 new device, you can start VoiceOver on your own to setup the device.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of bhawani shankar verma
 Sent: 09 October 2012 14:19
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 does voice over come with iphone or ipad? or one has to download and
 install

 it separately.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi
 TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the
 iPhone
 or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like
 bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
 if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the
 text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility 
 VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my
 opinion.

 I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users
 requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind
 VoiceOver.
 I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and
 Android
 JellyBean here

 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
 bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and

 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
 continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.

 And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet.
 if
 as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you
 may
 be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy
 Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any
 additional
 skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
 believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
 devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.

 One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
 cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the
 other
 hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large
 4.8
 inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
 magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if
 it
 will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.

 Just my two cents worth...
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi,
 I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification..
 Requested
 him to post on the list, if he can...
 Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,

 I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
 intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
 but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
 it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
 clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.

 Ketan

 On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Dear Ketan -
 I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here
 in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
 -Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is
 a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
 some light.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi
 reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
 supported and vice versa.

 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed
 decision.smile



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
 On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my
 phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srinivasu Chakravarthula]

Hi,
Ism low vision person too and find it with no difficulty..
Best,
Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:

 After reading the I Phone reviews, I wish it had physical keypad! I am
 partially blind but the idea of having fully screen tuch phone is
 scary for me.
 
 On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Comes build-in on all iPhones, iPads and iPods. What's more, if you have a
 new device, you can start VoiceOver on your own to setup the device.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of bhawani shankar verma
 Sent: 09 October 2012 14:19
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 does voice over come with iphone or ipad? or one has to download and
 install
 
 it separately.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 
 Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi
 TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the
 iPhone
 or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like
 bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
 if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the
 text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility 
 VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my
 opinion.
 
 I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users
 requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind
 VoiceOver.
 I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and
 Android
 JellyBean here
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
 bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
 continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.
 
 And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet.
 if
 as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you
 may
 be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy
 Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any
 additional
 skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
 believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
 devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.
 
 One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
 cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the
 other
 hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large
 4.8
 inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
 magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if
 it
 will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.
 
 Just my two cents worth...
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 Hi,
 I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification..
 Requested
 him to post on the list, if he can...
 Vasu
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear Friends,
 
 I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
 intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
 but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
 it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
 clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Dear Ketan -
 I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here
 in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
 -Vasu
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear All,
 
 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is
 a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
 some light.
 
 With best wishes,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi
 reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
 supported and vice versa.
 
 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed
 decision.smile
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
 On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[BHAVESH]

Hi all,

I think all of us can use the touch screen devices efficiently. Even I
was also scared from the touch screen devices when I was given An I
phone for the first time at my company (Barrierbreak technologies).
However with some practice, I can now use it without hezitency! I can
even demo if required to sighted folks. even for those who are scared
from android, there are a few softwares like eyes-free keyboard to
help you out. or if your budget is a little higher, you can go for
eyescrem sandwhich devices, which has touch and explore feature built
in talkback. and with the powerfull GPS accuracy, android shines! I
think if a totally blind person like me can use the touch screen, then
why cant you all use it??

All the best!
Bhavesh.

On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Hi,
 Ism low vision person too and find it with no difficulty..
 Best,
 Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:

 After reading the I Phone reviews, I wish it had physical keypad! I am
 partially blind but the idea of having fully screen tuch phone is
 scary for me.

 On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Comes build-in on all iPhones, iPads and iPods. What's more, if you have
 a
 new device, you can start VoiceOver on your own to setup the device.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of bhawani shankar verma
 Sent: 09 October 2012 14:19
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 does voice over come with iphone or ipad? or one has to download and
 install

 it separately.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a
 Hindi
 TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the
 iPhone
 or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like
 bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
 if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading
 the
 text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility
 
 VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my
 opinion.

 I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind
 users
 requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind
 VoiceOver.
 I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and
 Android
 JellyBean here
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
 bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
 http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
 continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.

 And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet.
 if
 as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you
 may
 be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the
 Galaxy
 Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any
 additional
 skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
 believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
 devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.

 One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
 cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the
 other
 hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large
 4.8
 inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
 magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know
 if
 it
 will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.

 Just my two cents worth...
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi,
 I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification..
 Requested
 him to post on the list, if he can...
 Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Friends,

 I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
 intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
 but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
 it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
 clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.

 Ketan

 On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Dear Ketan -
 I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here
 in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
 -Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com
 wrote

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Kiran Kaja]

couple of tips for starters:

It is important to understand the basic concepts of touchscreen
accessibility. The idea is that you explore the items on the screen by
touching them with one finger. The device reads out the item currently under
your finger. It just reads it out and doesn't activate it. If you want to
activate the item, you would then double tap the screen. Double tapping the
screen involves tapping the screen with one finger twice quickly. You don't
have to precisely double tap on the item. Once you have selected the item
buy touching it, you can double tap anywhere on the screen to activate it.
There are a number of additional gestures which do a lot of things.

I suggest going through the iPhone user manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/ and particularly reading the
VoiceOver section under Accessibility section in the manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph3e2e4218.html.

Also, during the initial stages of learning, it is important to remember
that when exploring the screen, you should try not to touch the screen with
2 fingers simultaneously. This may accidentally activate things. the easiest
way to avoid this is to close all your fingers in a fist and just open the
index finger and explore the screen.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Kiran
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of BHAVESH
Sent: 09 October 2012 19:35
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi all,

I think all of us can use the touch screen devices efficiently. Even I
was also scared from the touch screen devices when I was given An I
phone for the first time at my company (Barrierbreak technologies).
However with some practice, I can now use it without hezitency! I can
even demo if required to sighted folks. even for those who are scared
from android, there are a few softwares like eyes-free keyboard to
help you out. or if your budget is a little higher, you can go for
eyescrem sandwhich devices, which has touch and explore feature built
in talkback. and with the powerfull GPS accuracy, android shines! I
think if a totally blind person like me can use the touch screen, then
why cant you all use it??

All the best!
Bhavesh.

On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Hi,
 Ism low vision person too and find it with no difficulty..
 Best,
 Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:

 After reading the I Phone reviews, I wish it had physical keypad! I am
 partially blind but the idea of having fully screen tuch phone is
 scary for me.

 On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Comes build-in on all iPhones, iPads and iPods. What's more, if you have
 a
 new device, you can start VoiceOver on your own to setup the device.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of bhawani shankar verma
 Sent: 09 October 2012 14:19
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 does voice over come with iphone or ipad? or one has to download and
 install

 it separately.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a
 Hindi
 TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the
 iPhone
 or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like
 bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
 if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading
 the
 text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility
 
 VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my
 opinion.

 I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind
 users
 requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind
 VoiceOver.
 I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and
 Android
 JellyBean here

http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
 bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and

http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
 continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.

 And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet.
 if
 as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you
 may
 be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the
 Galaxy
 Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any
 additional
 skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
 believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
 devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.

 One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
 cheaper Android devices than either

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Syed Imran]

I always compare accessibility against the average user with sight. Since a
sighted user doesn't need to have the 'explore by touch' or any other
similar feature on, he or shee can quickly access the functionality of the
phone, be it iPhone or an Android phone. Therefore, the touchscreen
technology must undergo further changes to support tactical feedback on the
screen. I'm not saying the blind folks cannot operate the touchscreen phones
with existing solutions we have, all I'm saying is, it is very unreliable at
times. Imagine your in a very noisy environment and you've forgotten your
earphones and you want to use your phone. How will you deal with this
situation? No matter how big of an expert you are, you'll find it
bewildering to operate your phone. Isn't this a major drawback of whatever
existing solutions we have in dealing with touchscreen devices?
I'm not against this technology, but I'm concerned with our existing
solutions / approach to deal with touchscreens.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kiran Kaja
Sent: 10 October 2012 02:59
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

couple of tips for starters:

It is important to understand the basic concepts of touchscreen
accessibility. The idea is that you explore the items on the screen by
touching them with one finger. The device reads out the item currently under
your finger. It just reads it out and doesn't activate it. If you want to
activate the item, you would then double tap the screen. Double tapping the
screen involves tapping the screen with one finger twice quickly. You don't
have to precisely double tap on the item. Once you have selected the item
buy touching it, you can double tap anywhere on the screen to activate it.
There are a number of additional gestures which do a lot of things.

I suggest going through the iPhone user manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/ and particularly reading the
VoiceOver section under Accessibility section in the manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph3e2e4218.html.

Also, during the initial stages of learning, it is important to remember
that when exploring the screen, you should try not to touch the screen with
2 fingers simultaneously. This may accidentally activate things. the easiest
way to avoid this is to close all your fingers in a fist and just open the
index finger and explore the screen.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Kiran
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of BHAVESH
Sent: 09 October 2012 19:35
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi all,

I think all of us can use the touch screen devices efficiently. Even I was
also scared from the touch screen devices when I was given An I phone for
the first time at my company (Barrierbreak technologies).
However with some practice, I can now use it without hezitency! I can even
demo if required to sighted folks. even for those who are scared from
android, there are a few softwares like eyes-free keyboard to help you out.
or if your budget is a little higher, you can go for eyescrem sandwhich
devices, which has touch and explore feature built in talkback. and with the
powerfull GPS accuracy, android shines! I think if a totally blind person
like me can use the touch screen, then why cant you all use it??

All the best!
Bhavesh.

On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Hi,
 Ism low vision person too and find it with no difficulty..
 Best,
 Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:

 After reading the I Phone reviews, I wish it had physical keypad! I 
 am partially blind but the idea of having fully screen tuch phone is 
 scary for me.

 On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Comes build-in on all iPhones, iPads and iPods. What's more, if you 
 have a new device, you can start VoiceOver on your own to setup the 
 device.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma
 Sent: 09 October 2012 14:19
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 does voice over come with iphone or ipad? or one has to download and 
 install

 it separately.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a 
 Hindi TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire 
 interface of the iPhone or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web 
 content in Hindi like bbc.co.uk/Hindi, if you have enabled it, the 
 iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the text. Hindi is one

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Raaj]

 again, you scroll through the list little by little, but if you 
don't pause before sliding again, you move through bigger parts of the list. 
You also move through more items if you slide over most of the length of the 
screen. If you are successful, you hear a series of rising or falling tones 
as you scroll.


To move to the previous/next tab or screen, slide two fingers left or right 
across the screen. The two fingers can be next to each other or one above 
the other. If you are successful, you hear two rising or falling beeps.


To drag an item, find it with one finger. Lift that finger. then touch the 
same place and keep your finger on the screen. When the phone vibrates or 
announces that you can drag, slide your finger over the screen in the 
direction you want. The device emits a series of beeps as you drag. Note: 
when you're exploring the screen, you need to use a light touch; otherwise, 
you may find yourself inadvertently dragging items.


To clear a single notification in the notification area or to quit an app on 
the Recently used screen, touch the item once with one finger. Then touch it 
again with two fingers and slide your fingers to the left or right edge of 
the screen.


To interrupt speech, wave your hand over the proximity sensor or touch some 
part of the screen, like the Home or Back button at the bottom. For this to 
work, the appropriate setting must be enabled in Talkback settings.




To hear the state of a checkbox, find the checkbox; then slide your finger 
horizontally left/right till you hear the screen reader say, checked or 
unchecked, Usually when you reach the far edge of the screen.




To gesture within an app, try the gesture as instructed. If it doesn't work, 
try it with two fingers. For example, most handsets let you unlock the 
screen or answer a call by sliding a finger horizontally near the bottom. If 
that doesn't work, slide two fingers horizontally in the same location.




While some accessibility issues remain, systemwide font size adjustment and 
Explore by Touch (introduced in 4.0) and web scripts for web views 
(introduced in 3.0), significantly improve the level of accessibility for 
low-vision and blind Android users.
- Original Message - 
From: Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3



couple of tips for starters:

It is important to understand the basic concepts of touchscreen
accessibility. The idea is that you explore the items on the screen by
touching them with one finger. The device reads out the item currently 
under

your finger. It just reads it out and doesn't activate it. If you want to
activate the item, you would then double tap the screen. Double tapping 
the
screen involves tapping the screen with one finger twice quickly. You 
don't

have to precisely double tap on the item. Once you have selected the item
buy touching it, you can double tap anywhere on the screen to activate it.
There are a number of additional gestures which do a lot of things.

I suggest going through the iPhone user manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/ and particularly reading the
VoiceOver section under Accessibility section in the manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph3e2e4218.html.

Also, during the initial stages of learning, it is important to remember
that when exploring the screen, you should try not to touch the screen 
with
2 fingers simultaneously. This may accidentally activate things. the 
easiest

way to avoid this is to close all your fingers in a fist and just open the
index finger and explore the screen.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Kiran
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of BHAVESH
Sent: 09 October 2012 19:35
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi all,

I think all of us can use the touch screen devices efficiently. Even I
was also scared from the touch screen devices when I was given An I
phone for the first time at my company (Barrierbreak technologies).
However with some practice, I can now use it without hezitency! I can
even demo if required to sighted folks. even for those who are scared
from android, there are a few softwares like eyes-free keyboard to
help you out. or if your budget is a little higher, you can go for
eyescrem sandwhich devices, which has touch and explore feature built
in talkback. and with the powerfull GPS accuracy, android shines! I
think if a totally blind person like me can use the touch screen, then
why cant you all use it??

All the best!
Bhavesh.

On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:

Hi,
Ism low vision person too and find it with no difficulty..
Best,
Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:


After reading the I Phone reviews, I wish it had physical

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Kiran,

This is incredibly helpful.  I will try this and if need be then will come 
back.  I am getting more and more excited by this.


With best wishes,

Ketan

-Original Message- 
From: Kiran Kaja

Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:58 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

couple of tips for starters:

It is important to understand the basic concepts of touchscreen
accessibility. The idea is that you explore the items on the screen by
touching them with one finger. The device reads out the item currently under
your finger. It just reads it out and doesn't activate it. If you want to
activate the item, you would then double tap the screen. Double tapping the
screen involves tapping the screen with one finger twice quickly. You don't
have to precisely double tap on the item. Once you have selected the item
buy touching it, you can double tap anywhere on the screen to activate it.
There are a number of additional gestures which do a lot of things.

I suggest going through the iPhone user manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/ and particularly reading the
VoiceOver section under Accessibility section in the manual at
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph3e2e4218.html.

Also, during the initial stages of learning, it is important to remember
that when exploring the screen, you should try not to touch the screen with
2 fingers simultaneously. This may accidentally activate things. the easiest
way to avoid this is to close all your fingers in a fist and just open the
index finger and explore the screen.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Kiran
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of BHAVESH
Sent: 09 October 2012 19:35
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi all,

I think all of us can use the touch screen devices efficiently. Even I
was also scared from the touch screen devices when I was given An I
phone for the first time at my company (Barrierbreak technologies).
However with some practice, I can now use it without hezitency! I can
even demo if required to sighted folks. even for those who are scared
from android, there are a few softwares like eyes-free keyboard to
help you out. or if your budget is a little higher, you can go for
eyescrem sandwhich devices, which has touch and explore feature built
in talkback. and with the powerfull GPS accuracy, android shines! I
think if a totally blind person like me can use the touch screen, then
why cant you all use it??

All the best!
Bhavesh.

On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:

Hi,
Ism low vision person too and find it with no difficulty..
Best,
Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:


After reading the I Phone reviews, I wish it had physical keypad! I am
partially blind but the idea of having fully screen tuch phone is
scary for me.

On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote:

Comes build-in on all iPhones, iPads and iPods. What's more, if you have
a
new device, you can start VoiceOver on your own to setup the device.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 09 October 2012 14:19
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

does voice over come with iphone or ipad? or one has to download and
install

it separately.

- Original Message -
From: Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3



Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a
Hindi
TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the
iPhone
or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like
bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading
the
text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings  General  Accessibility

VoiceOver  Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my
opinion.

I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind
users
requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind
VoiceOver.
I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and
Android
JellyBean here



http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly

bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and



http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-

continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.

And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet.
if
as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you
may
be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the
Galaxy
Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any
additional
skins

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[ashook kumaaaaar]

 actuly i have heard  that, internet is not accessabel  on android
full tuch screen phone. Is it rite?

On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my
 phone. Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade the
 same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are good
 enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive) or
 Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so that
 I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If yes
 then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this  thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I get
 as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android and
 Iphone
 have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.  Are there any
 Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the
 learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as
 a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything
 on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and
 I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send
 sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic
 big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an
 unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Prashant Ranjan Verma]

Dear Ketan and others,
This may add to your disappointment. 
Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
writing is not possible for the blind. 
The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not supported
and vice versa. 

I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile

 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
Internet, I haven't used it.

On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade 
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are 
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet 
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to 
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to 
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive) 
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or 
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so 
 that I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If 
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I 
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android 
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.  
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think 
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know 
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and 
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India 
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps 
 application is not likely to work in India until further few 
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android 
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone 
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to 
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more 
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice 
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for 
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more 
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms 
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The 
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size 
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital 
 magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious 
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K 
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person yet. 
 It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Rahul Kelapure]

Hi Prashant and others, I am facing an issue. I do not know how to
transfer my contacts from my Nokia E72 to Android phone. I cannot
physically type them again, as I have around 1 thousand of them.

Who so ever knows about it may please throw some light on it.

I shall be greatful if a step by step guidance is provided.

Thanks and warm regards,

Rahul.

On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
 writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not supported
 and vice versa.

 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive)
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so
 that I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
 thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital
 magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person yet.
 It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Prashant Ranjan Verma]

Not straight forward but doable.
I first took backup of Nokia contacts on the memory card. Then copied all
vCard files on the memory card of the android phone.
Opened contacts in Android, go to options and select import/export and then
select import from sd card.

 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: 08 October 2012 13:16
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi Prashant and others, I am facing an issue. I do not know how to transfer
my contacts from my Nokia E72 to Android phone. I cannot physically type
them again, as I have around 1 thousand of them.

Who so ever knows about it may please throw some light on it.

I shall be greatful if a step by step guidance is provided.

Thanks and warm regards,

Rahul.

On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading 
 or writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not 
 supported and vice versa.

 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade 
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications 
 are good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet 
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet 
 to explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need 
 to download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive) 
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or 
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so 
 that I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If 
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
 thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I 
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android 
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I 
 think the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know 
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and 
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India 
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps 
 application is not likely to work in India until further few 
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on 
 android as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone 
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible 
 to do everything on the phone although several things take much 
 more time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice 
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting 
 for its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do 
 more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send 
 sms with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The 
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size 
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital 
 magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious 
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K 
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear All,

Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is a
way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
some light.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
 writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not supported
 and vice versa.

 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive)
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so
 that I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
 thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital
 magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person yet.
 It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Satguru]

Hi sir,

What about using ESpeak with Talkback? Doesn't it read Hindi?


Satguru
___,__.___
Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner 
or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can.

Satguru Rathi.
Mobile: +91-9971231627 / 9871489945
Email: satgurura...@yahoo.co.in
satgurura...@ovi.com
Skype: satgururathi
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12489756116
- Original Message - 
From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


Dear Ketan and others,
This may add to your disappointment.
Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
writing is not possible for the blind.
The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not supported
and vice versa.

I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
Internet, I haven't used it.

On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive)
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so
 that I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital
 magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person yet.
 It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Kotian, H P]

Hi

Lekha comes as a default synthesizer in Iphone. You are saved the bother of 
installing it.
Harish.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: 08 October 2012 13:06
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Dear Ketan and others,
This may add to your disappointment. 
Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
writing is not possible for the blind. 
The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not supported
and vice versa. 

I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile

 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
Internet, I haven't used it.

On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade 
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are 
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet 
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to 
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to 
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive) 
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or 
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so 
 that I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If 
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I 
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android 
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.  
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think 
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know 
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and 
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India 
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps 
 application is not likely to work in India until further few 
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android 
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone 
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to 
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more 
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice 
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for 
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more 
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms 
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The 
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size 
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital 
 magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious 
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K 
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person yet. 
 It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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 MSN ID

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Prashant Ranjan Verma]

eSpeak does speak in Hindi but not many would like to use it. 
In addition eSpeak has known limitations on android.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Satguru
Sent: 08 October 2012 14:22
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi sir,

What about using ESpeak with Talkback? Doesn't it read Hindi?


Satguru
___,__.___
Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner
or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can.

Satguru Rathi.
Mobile: +91-9971231627 / 9871489945
Email: satgurura...@yahoo.co.in
satgurura...@ovi.com
Skype: satgururathi
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12489756116
- Original Message -
From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


Dear Ketan and others,
This may add to your disappointment.
Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
writing is not possible for the blind.
The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not supported
and vice versa.

I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
Internet, I haven't used it.

On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive)
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so
 that I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital
 magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person yet

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[jignesh thakur]

friends, what about samsung galaxy chat b5330.
the phone has qwerty keyboard with android 4.
any review from accessibility point of view?

On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 eSpeak does speak in Hindi but not many would like to use it.
 In addition eSpeak has known limitations on android.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Satguru
 Sent: 08 October 2012 14:22
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi sir,

 What about using ESpeak with Talkback? Doesn't it read Hindi?


 Satguru
 ___,__.___
 Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner
 or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can.

 Satguru Rathi.
 Mobile: +91-9971231627 / 9871489945
 Email: satgurura...@yahoo.co.in
 satgurura...@ovi.com
 Skype: satgururathi
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12489756116
 - Original Message -
 From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 1:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
 writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not supported
 and vice versa.

 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive)
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so
 that I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
 thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srikanth Kanuri]

hi ashook , internet is accessible. you can use ideal web reader or
you can buy web browser from mobile accessibility. even chrome is
accessible from what i herd but had not tried.

On 10/8/12, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 friends, what about samsung galaxy chat b5330.
 the phone has qwerty keyboard with android 4.
 any review from accessibility point of view?

 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 eSpeak does speak in Hindi but not many would like to use it.
 In addition eSpeak has known limitations on android.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Satguru
 Sent: 08 October 2012 14:22
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi sir,

 What about using ESpeak with Talkback? Doesn't it read Hindi?


 Satguru
 ___,__.___
 Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But
 sooner
 or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can.

 Satguru Rathi.
 Mobile: +91-9971231627 / 9871489945
 Email: satgurura...@yahoo.co.in
 satgurura...@ovi.com
 Skype: satgururathi
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12489756116
 - Original Message -
 From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 1:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
 writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not supported
 and vice versa.

 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive)
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so
 that I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
 thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[ashook kumaaaaar]

r both  browser free? If not,  what is there  cost.  wich is more
accesseble. Can we  use site  like  inclusive planet ?  bb c? Dainik
jagran  i know these r stupid  questions but i want  fully satisfide
before  buy it.

On 10/8/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi ashook , internet is accessible. you can use ideal web reader or
 you can buy web browser from mobile accessibility. even chrome is
 accessible from what i herd but had not tried.

 On 10/8/12, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 friends, what about samsung galaxy chat b5330.
 the phone has qwerty keyboard with android 4.
 any review from accessibility point of view?

 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 eSpeak does speak in Hindi but not many would like to use it.
 In addition eSpeak has known limitations on android.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Satguru
 Sent: 08 October 2012 14:22
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi sir,

 What about using ESpeak with Talkback? Doesn't it read Hindi?


 Satguru
 ___,__.___
 Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But
 sooner
 or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can.

 Satguru Rathi.
 Mobile: +91-9971231627 / 9871489945
 Email: satgurura...@yahoo.co.in
 satgurura...@ovi.com
 Skype: satgururathi
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12489756116
 - Original Message -
 From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 1:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
 writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
 supported
 and vice versa.

 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive)
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so
 that I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
 thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srinivasu Chakravarthula]

Dear Ketan -
I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here in the US, 
sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
-Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,
 
 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is a
 way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
 some light.
 
 With best wishes,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
 writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not supported
 and vice versa.
 
 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.
 
 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.
 
 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,
 
 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.
 
 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.
 
 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.
 
 Thanks and warm regards,
 
 Rahul
 
 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,
 
 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive)
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so
 that I can make my decision.
 
 With regards,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
 thanks.
 ashok kumar.
 
 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,
 
 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?
 
 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.
 
 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.
 
 With best wishes,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.
 
 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.
 
 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital
 magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person yet.
 It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure on a big screen.
 
 
 Time permitting I will write more on this.
 
 Prashant
 
 
 
 Search for old postings at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
 
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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
Surprised, Kiran had demoed it and he had mentioned it came in-built.
Harish Kotian.
 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: 09 October 2012 09:41
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Dear Ketan -
I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here in the US, 
sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
-Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,
 
 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is a
 way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
 some light.
 
 With best wishes,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
 writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not supported
 and vice versa.
 
 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
 
 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.
 
 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.
 
 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,
 
 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.
 
 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.
 
 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.
 
 Thanks and warm regards,
 
 Rahul
 
 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,
 
 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive)
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so
 that I can make my decision.
 
 With regards,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
 thanks.
 ashok kumar.
 
 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,
 
 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?
 
 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.
 
 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.
 
 With best wishes,
 
 Ketan
 
 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.
 
 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.
 
 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital
 magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person yet.
 It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Friends,

I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.

Ketan

On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Dear Ketan -
 I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here in the
 US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
 -Vasu

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is a
 way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
 some light.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan and others,
 This may add to your disappointment.
 Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi reading or
 writing is not possible for the blind.
 The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
 supported
 and vice versa.

 I am adding to the list so that you take the informed decision.smile



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my phone.
 Internet, I haven't used it.

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade
 the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are
 good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive)
 or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so
 that I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If
 yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this
 thanks.
 ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I
 get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android
 and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.
 Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think
 the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital
 magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person yet

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[mukesh jain]

Hello,
Sometimes due to excessive download on dropbox links, the same gets
suspended for few days. Hence, I have uploaded these files on
sendspace for your listening. Hope this helps.

File 1:
Description: podcast on Iphone contributed by Mr. bhavesh

You can use the following link to retrieve your file:

http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/e44ozd

File 2:
Description: some podcast on the comparison of iOS  android

You can use the following link to retrieve your file:

http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/8nww2y

File 3:
Description: An in-depth look at the android OS, including GPS.

You can use the following link to retrieve your file:

http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/41vl5d


On 10/7/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can download the same from following website:
 Blind Tech Support
 http://www.blindtechsupport.net/
 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Mr Bhavesh the drop link given here are not working and giving 509 error.

 On 10/6/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 at Rajesh sir, it is not possible in 2.3 of android for touch
 functionality. touch gestures were introduced in 4.0 of android. even
 if mobile accessibility is installed it is limited to mobile
 accessibility home screen itself. you would surely require physical
 tracking keys for general phone navigation. the light touch is not
 possible.


 On 10/6/12, BHAVESH charmingbhav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Here is an in-depth look at both the operating systems, I Phone and
 Android respectively. I am pasteing 3 links to collection of audio
 podcasts I downloaded from various websites for you. These can be used
 to decide whether you want to purchase any of the OS .  The details
 are below. Note: if HTTPS prevents you from downloading the file,
 you can copy the URL, and paste it in the address bar of your browser
 and remove the letter s from the URL .
 1. these are purely Iphone based podcasts. Although some are done with
 Iphhone 3gs, they might be helpfull for your basics of Voiceover.

 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/I%20Phone.zip
 the file size is 340 MB
 2. An in-depth look at the android OS, including GPS.
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/android.zip
 the file size is 410 MB
 3. and finally, for those who are confused between which OS to choos,
 here are some IOS and Android comparison podcasts which may help you
 choos one OS:
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/Android%20and%20Iphone%20compareson.zip
 the file size is 81.3 MB
 I hope that these prove helpfull to you.
 Thanks and regards,
 Bhavesh

 On 10/5/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does the word processor on android is accessible with talkBack?

 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hello all,
 Please note that although android provides access to unlimited number of
 apps and new features in terms of accessibility there are still several
 challenges as compared to Symbian phones with commercial screen readers.
 1. Using the IVR during a call
 2. looking up contacts during a call
 3. distinguishing between outgoing, incoming and missed calls in the log
 is
 not straight forward
 4. looking up contacts with touch screen is time taking although I am
 now
 getting good results with voice search
 5. GPS navigation experience is not as smooth as NOKIA although it is
 more
 accurate
 6. most of the times you will need two hands to operate touch screen
 phones
 7. operating the touch screen when the phone is held close to the ear
 may
 not be possible, you may feel the need for hands free many times

 There may be more items to this list. But the android device feels much
 more
 than a phone in the hand. It gives you the feeling as if it is a device
 with
 life and immense possibilities. It is definitely much more than a phone
 and
 for people who use the phone only for calling the time spent on learning
 it
 is a waste.

 And I feel sorry for talks and spiel as they are being compared to a
 commercial product like TALKS. Talks should be compared more to mobile
 accessibility in the case of android. Mobile accessibility does fill up
 many
 accessibility shortcomings in android.

 Prashant



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of amit patel
 Sent: 05 October 2012 14:39
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 i have used

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srikanth Kanuri]

for apple products:

http://applevis.com/

it is a wonderful resource.


On 10/7/12, mukesh jain mukesh.jai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 Sometimes due to excessive download on dropbox links, the same gets
 suspended for few days. Hence, I have uploaded these files on
 sendspace for your listening. Hope this helps.

 File 1:
 Description: podcast on Iphone contributed by Mr. bhavesh

 You can use the following link to retrieve your file:

 http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/e44ozd

 File 2:
 Description: some podcast on the comparison of iOS  android

 You can use the following link to retrieve your file:

 http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/8nww2y

 File 3:
 Description: An in-depth look at the android OS, including GPS.

 You can use the following link to retrieve your file:

 http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/41vl5d


 On 10/7/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can download the same from following website:
 Blind Tech Support
 http://www.blindtechsupport.net/
 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Mr Bhavesh the drop link given here are not working and giving 509 error.

 On 10/6/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 at Rajesh sir, it is not possible in 2.3 of android for touch
 functionality. touch gestures were introduced in 4.0 of android. even
 if mobile accessibility is installed it is limited to mobile
 accessibility home screen itself. you would surely require physical
 tracking keys for general phone navigation. the light touch is not
 possible.


 On 10/6/12, BHAVESH charmingbhav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Here is an in-depth look at both the operating systems, I Phone and
 Android respectively. I am pasteing 3 links to collection of audio
 podcasts I downloaded from various websites for you. These can be used
 to decide whether you want to purchase any of the OS .  The details
 are below. Note: if HTTPS prevents you from downloading the file,
 you can copy the URL, and paste it in the address bar of your browser
 and remove the letter s from the URL .
 1. these are purely Iphone based podcasts. Although some are done with
 Iphhone 3gs, they might be helpfull for your basics of Voiceover.

 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/I%20Phone.zip
 the file size is 340 MB
 2. An in-depth look at the android OS, including GPS.
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/android.zip
 the file size is 410 MB
 3. and finally, for those who are confused between which OS to choos,
 here are some IOS and Android comparison podcasts which may help you
 choos one OS:
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/Android%20and%20Iphone%20compareson.zip
 the file size is 81.3 MB
 I hope that these prove helpfull to you.
 Thanks and regards,
 Bhavesh

 On 10/5/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does the word processor on android is accessible with talkBack?

 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hello all,
 Please note that although android provides access to unlimited number
 of
 apps and new features in terms of accessibility there are still several
 challenges as compared to Symbian phones with commercial screen
 readers.
 1. Using the IVR during a call
 2. looking up contacts during a call
 3. distinguishing between outgoing, incoming and missed calls in the
 log
 is
 not straight forward
 4. looking up contacts with touch screen is time taking although I am
 now
 getting good results with voice search
 5. GPS navigation experience is not as smooth as NOKIA although it is
 more
 accurate
 6. most of the times you will need two hands to operate touch screen
 phones
 7. operating the touch screen when the phone is held close to the ear
 may
 not be possible, you may feel the need for hands free many times

 There may be more items to this list. But the android device feels much
 more
 than a phone in the hand. It gives you the feeling as if it is a device
 with
 life and immense possibilities. It is definitely much more than a phone
 and
 for people who use the phone only for calling the time spent on
 learning
 it
 is a waste.

 And I feel sorry for talks and spiel as they are being compared to a
 commercial product like TALKS. Talks should be compared more to mobile
 accessibility in the case of android. Mobile accessibility does fill up
 many
 accessibility shortcomings in android.

 Prashant



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of amit patel
 Sent: 05 October

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Shona Man]

thanx Mukesh. Perhaps it would help me in choosing any of these
platform in future.

On 10/7/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 for apple products:

 http://applevis.com/

 it is a wonderful resource.


 On 10/7/12, mukesh jain mukesh.jai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 Sometimes due to excessive download on dropbox links, the same gets
 suspended for few days. Hence, I have uploaded these files on
 sendspace for your listening. Hope this helps.

 File 1:
 Description: podcast on Iphone contributed by Mr. bhavesh

 You can use the following link to retrieve your file:

 http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/e44ozd

 File 2:
 Description: some podcast on the comparison of iOS  android

 You can use the following link to retrieve your file:

 http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/8nww2y

 File 3:
 Description: An in-depth look at the android OS, including GPS.

 You can use the following link to retrieve your file:

 http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/41vl5d


 On 10/7/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can download the same from following website:
 Blind Tech Support
 http://www.blindtechsupport.net/
 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Mr Bhavesh the drop link given here are not working and giving 509 error.

 On 10/6/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 at Rajesh sir, it is not possible in 2.3 of android for touch
 functionality. touch gestures were introduced in 4.0 of android. even
 if mobile accessibility is installed it is limited to mobile
 accessibility home screen itself. you would surely require physical
 tracking keys for general phone navigation. the light touch is not
 possible.


 On 10/6/12, BHAVESH charmingbhav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Here is an in-depth look at both the operating systems, I Phone and
 Android respectively. I am pasteing 3 links to collection of audio
 podcasts I downloaded from various websites for you. These can be used
 to decide whether you want to purchase any of the OS .  The details
 are below. Note: if HTTPS prevents you from downloading the file,
 you can copy the URL, and paste it in the address bar of your browser
 and remove the letter s from the URL .
 1. these are purely Iphone based podcasts. Although some are done with
 Iphhone 3gs, they might be helpfull for your basics of Voiceover.

 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/I%20Phone.zip
 the file size is 340 MB
 2. An in-depth look at the android OS, including GPS.
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/android.zip
 the file size is 410 MB
 3. and finally, for those who are confused between which OS to choos,
 here are some IOS and Android comparison podcasts which may help you
 choos one OS:
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/Android%20and%20Iphone%20compareson.zip
 the file size is 81.3 MB
 I hope that these prove helpfull to you.
 Thanks and regards,
 Bhavesh

 On 10/5/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does the word processor on android is accessible with talkBack?

 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hello all,
 Please note that although android provides access to unlimited number
 of
 apps and new features in terms of accessibility there are still
 several
 challenges as compared to Symbian phones with commercial screen
 readers.
 1. Using the IVR during a call
 2. looking up contacts during a call
 3. distinguishing between outgoing, incoming and missed calls in the
 log
 is
 not straight forward
 4. looking up contacts with touch screen is time taking although I am
 now
 getting good results with voice search
 5. GPS navigation experience is not as smooth as NOKIA although it is
 more
 accurate
 6. most of the times you will need two hands to operate touch screen
 phones
 7. operating the touch screen when the phone is held close to the ear
 may
 not be possible, you may feel the need for hands free many times

 There may be more items to this list. But the android device feels
 much
 more
 than a phone in the hand. It gives you the feeling as if it is a
 device
 with
 life and immense possibilities. It is definitely much more than a
 phone
 and
 for people who use the phone only for calling the time spent on
 learning
 it
 is a waste.

 And I feel sorry for talks and spiel as they are being compared to a
 commercial product like TALKS. Talks should be compared more to mobile
 accessibility in the case of android. Mobile accessibility does fill
 up
 many
 accessibility shortcomings in android

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Accessindians,

Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I get
as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android and Iphone
have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.  Are there any
Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think the
learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful. They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[ashook kumaaaaar]

hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If yes
then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this  thanks.
 ashok kumar.

On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I get
 as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android and Iphone
 have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.  Are there any
 Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think the
 learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful. They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Rahul Kelapure]

Hi Ashook,

I recently bought Karbonn A18, just the last week.

It has all the nice features that one would like to have in the
android phone and the cost is 9.5 thousand on Flipkart, from where I
had ordered.

Hi Ketan,

It does look like a big task managing without keyboard but you will
get used to it i am sure. Also, one needs to keep himself updated with
the new technology.

Yes, there are phone with touch screen and keyboard. There is one I
know of Micromax A70 I think.

You may check on Flipkart.

Thanks and warm regards,

Rahul.

On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If yes
 then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this  thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I get
 as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android and Iphone
 have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.  Are there any
 Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think the
 learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Rahul,

Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive) or
Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so that
I can make my decision.

With regards,

Ketan

On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If yes
 then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this  thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I get
 as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android and Iphone
 have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.  Are there any
 Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think the
 learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Rahul Kelapure]

Dear Ketan,

My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade the
same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are good
enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
download first.

Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

Thanks and warm regards,

Rahul

On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive) or
 Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so that
 I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If yes
 then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this  thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I get
 as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android and Iphone
 have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.  Are there any
 Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think the
 learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[ashook kumaaaaar]

r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade the
 same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are good
 enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive) or
 Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so that
 I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If yes
 then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this  thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I get
 as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android and Iphone
 have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.  Are there any
 Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think the
 learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything
 on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic
 big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an
 unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Rahul Kelapure]

Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my
phone. Internet, I haven't used it.

On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
 it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ketan,

 My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may upgrade the
 same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the specifications are good
 enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

 All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a Tablet
 which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, I am yet to
 explore things, as screenreading software is not inbuilt, I need to
 download first.

 Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Rahul,

 Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively expensive) or
 Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon have talkback or
 spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter etc?  Do share so that
 I can make my decision.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/8/12, ashook kumar ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18? If yes
 then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for this  thanks.
  ashok kumar.

 On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Accessindians,

 Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed I get
 as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since Android and Iphone
 have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very insecure.  Are there any
 Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

 Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I think the
 learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very steep.

 Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as
 a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything
 on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and
 I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send
 sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic
 big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an
 unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srikanth Kanuri]

at Rajesh sir, it is not possible in 2.3 of android for touch
functionality. touch gestures were introduced in 4.0 of android. even
if mobile accessibility is installed it is limited to mobile
accessibility home screen itself. you would surely require physical
tracking keys for general phone navigation. the light touch is not
possible.


On 10/6/12, BHAVESH charmingbhav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Here is an in-depth look at both the operating systems, I Phone and
 Android respectively. I am pasteing 3 links to collection of audio
 podcasts I downloaded from various websites for you. These can be used
 to decide whether you want to purchase any of the OS .  The details
 are below. Note: if HTTPS prevents you from downloading the file,
 you can copy the URL, and paste it in the address bar of your browser
 and remove the letter s from the URL .
 1. these are purely Iphone based podcasts. Although some are done with
 Iphhone 3gs, they might be helpfull for your basics of Voiceover.

 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/I%20Phone.zip
 the file size is 340 MB
 2. An in-depth look at the android OS, including GPS.
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/android.zip
 the file size is 410 MB
 3. and finally, for those who are confused between which OS to choos,
 here are some IOS and Android comparison podcasts which may help you
 choos one OS:
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/Android%20and%20Iphone%20compareson.zip
 the file size is 81.3 MB
 I hope that these prove helpfull to you.
 Thanks and regards,
 Bhavesh

 On 10/5/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does the word processor on android is accessible with talkBack?

 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hello all,
 Please note that although android provides access to unlimited number of
 apps and new features in terms of accessibility there are still several
 challenges as compared to Symbian phones with commercial screen readers.
 1. Using the IVR during a call
 2. looking up contacts during a call
 3. distinguishing between outgoing, incoming and missed calls in the log
 is
 not straight forward
 4. looking up contacts with touch screen is time taking although I am now
 getting good results with voice search
 5. GPS navigation experience is not as smooth as NOKIA although it is more
 accurate
 6. most of the times you will need two hands to operate touch screen
 phones
 7. operating the touch screen when the phone is held close to the ear may
 not be possible, you may feel the need for hands free many times

 There may be more items to this list. But the android device feels much
 more
 than a phone in the hand. It gives you the feeling as if it is a device
 with
 life and immense possibilities. It is definitely much more than a phone
 and
 for people who use the phone only for calling the time spent on learning
 it
 is a waste.

 And I feel sorry for talks and spiel as they are being compared to a
 commercial product like TALKS. Talks should be compared more to mobile
 accessibility in the case of android. Mobile accessibility does fill up
 many
 accessibility shortcomings in android.

 Prashant



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of amit patel
 Sent: 05 October 2012 14:39
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 i have used both nokia and android. but  from accessibility  point of view
 my stoopid e5 is yet better then android.

 On 10/5/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Arae! Stil you are calling e5 stupid phone?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  05.10.2012, 7.24  am
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hi sir,
 Still I am stuck with e5. but you have a decent amount of phones to
 choose from. Happy shopping,.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ajay: wich android phone you are using? What is the cost? And what about
 e5?
 It is stil with you? Can you call me? Because i am also thinking to buy
 it
 on deevali...
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  04.10.2012, 10.52  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Shona Man]

Mr Bhavesh the drop link given here are not working and giving 509 error.

On 10/6/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 at Rajesh sir, it is not possible in 2.3 of android for touch
 functionality. touch gestures were introduced in 4.0 of android. even
 if mobile accessibility is installed it is limited to mobile
 accessibility home screen itself. you would surely require physical
 tracking keys for general phone navigation. the light touch is not
 possible.


 On 10/6/12, BHAVESH charmingbhav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Here is an in-depth look at both the operating systems, I Phone and
 Android respectively. I am pasteing 3 links to collection of audio
 podcasts I downloaded from various websites for you. These can be used
 to decide whether you want to purchase any of the OS .  The details
 are below. Note: if HTTPS prevents you from downloading the file,
 you can copy the URL, and paste it in the address bar of your browser
 and remove the letter s from the URL .
 1. these are purely Iphone based podcasts. Although some are done with
 Iphhone 3gs, they might be helpfull for your basics of Voiceover.

 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/I%20Phone.zip
 the file size is 340 MB
 2. An in-depth look at the android OS, including GPS.
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/android.zip
 the file size is 410 MB
 3. and finally, for those who are confused between which OS to choos,
 here are some IOS and Android comparison podcasts which may help you
 choos one OS:
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/Android%20and%20Iphone%20compareson.zip
 the file size is 81.3 MB
 I hope that these prove helpfull to you.
 Thanks and regards,
 Bhavesh

 On 10/5/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does the word processor on android is accessible with talkBack?

 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hello all,
 Please note that although android provides access to unlimited number of
 apps and new features in terms of accessibility there are still several
 challenges as compared to Symbian phones with commercial screen readers.
 1. Using the IVR during a call
 2. looking up contacts during a call
 3. distinguishing between outgoing, incoming and missed calls in the log
 is
 not straight forward
 4. looking up contacts with touch screen is time taking although I am now
 getting good results with voice search
 5. GPS navigation experience is not as smooth as NOKIA although it is
 more
 accurate
 6. most of the times you will need two hands to operate touch screen
 phones
 7. operating the touch screen when the phone is held close to the ear may
 not be possible, you may feel the need for hands free many times

 There may be more items to this list. But the android device feels much
 more
 than a phone in the hand. It gives you the feeling as if it is a device
 with
 life and immense possibilities. It is definitely much more than a phone
 and
 for people who use the phone only for calling the time spent on learning
 it
 is a waste.

 And I feel sorry for talks and spiel as they are being compared to a
 commercial product like TALKS. Talks should be compared more to mobile
 accessibility in the case of android. Mobile accessibility does fill up
 many
 accessibility shortcomings in android.

 Prashant



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of amit patel
 Sent: 05 October 2012 14:39
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 i have used both nokia and android. but  from accessibility  point of
 view
 my stoopid e5 is yet better then android.

 On 10/5/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Arae! Stil you are calling e5 stupid phone?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  05.10.2012, 7.24  am
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hi sir,
 Still I am stuck with e5. but you have a decent amount of phones to
 choose from. Happy shopping,.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ajay: wich android phone you are using? What is the cost? And what
 about
 e5?
 It is stil with you? Can you call me? Because i am also thinking to buy
 it
 on deevali...
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[PRASHANTH]

You can download the same from following website:
Blind Tech Support
http://www.blindtechsupport.net/
Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
Will Durant
With Regards: Prashanth
Mobile#:9480555815
- Original Message - 
From: Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


Mr Bhavesh the drop link given here are not working and giving 509 error.

On 10/6/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 at Rajesh sir, it is not possible in 2.3 of android for touch
 functionality. touch gestures were introduced in 4.0 of android. even
 if mobile accessibility is installed it is limited to mobile
 accessibility home screen itself. you would surely require physical
 tracking keys for general phone navigation. the light touch is not
 possible.


 On 10/6/12, BHAVESH charmingbhav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Here is an in-depth look at both the operating systems, I Phone and
 Android respectively. I am pasteing 3 links to collection of audio
 podcasts I downloaded from various websites for you. These can be used
 to decide whether you want to purchase any of the OS .  The details
 are below. Note: if HTTPS prevents you from downloading the file,
 you can copy the URL, and paste it in the address bar of your browser
 and remove the letter s from the URL .
 1. these are purely Iphone based podcasts. Although some are done with
 Iphhone 3gs, they might be helpfull for your basics of Voiceover.

 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/I%20Phone.zip
 the file size is 340 MB
 2. An in-depth look at the android OS, including GPS.
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/android.zip
 the file size is 410 MB
 3. and finally, for those who are confused between which OS to choos,
 here are some IOS and Android comparison podcasts which may help you
 choos one OS:
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/Android%20and%20Iphone%20compareson.zip
 the file size is 81.3 MB
 I hope that these prove helpfull to you.
 Thanks and regards,
 Bhavesh

 On 10/5/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does the word processor on android is accessible with talkBack?

 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hello all,
 Please note that although android provides access to unlimited number of
 apps and new features in terms of accessibility there are still several
 challenges as compared to Symbian phones with commercial screen readers.
 1. Using the IVR during a call
 2. looking up contacts during a call
 3. distinguishing between outgoing, incoming and missed calls in the log
 is
 not straight forward
 4. looking up contacts with touch screen is time taking although I am 
 now
 getting good results with voice search
 5. GPS navigation experience is not as smooth as NOKIA although it is
 more
 accurate
 6. most of the times you will need two hands to operate touch screen
 phones
 7. operating the touch screen when the phone is held close to the ear 
 may
 not be possible, you may feel the need for hands free many times

 There may be more items to this list. But the android device feels much
 more
 than a phone in the hand. It gives you the feeling as if it is a device
 with
 life and immense possibilities. It is definitely much more than a phone
 and
 for people who use the phone only for calling the time spent on learning
 it
 is a waste.

 And I feel sorry for talks and spiel as they are being compared to a
 commercial product like TALKS. Talks should be compared more to mobile
 accessibility in the case of android. Mobile accessibility does fill up
 many
 accessibility shortcomings in android.

 Prashant



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of amit patel
 Sent: 05 October 2012 14:39
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 i have used both nokia and android. but  from accessibility  point of
 view
 my stoopid e5 is yet better then android.

 On 10/5/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Arae! Stil you are calling e5 stupid phone?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  05.10.2012, 7.24  am
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hi sir,
 Still I am stuck with e5. but you have a decent amount of phones to
 choose from. Happy shopping,.
 regards

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[amit patel]

i have used both nokia and android. but  from accessibility  point of
view my stoopid e5 is yet better then android.

On 10/5/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Arae! Stil you are calling e5 stupid phone?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  05.10.2012, 7.24  am
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hi sir,
 Still I am stuck with e5. but you have a decent amount of phones to
 choose from. Happy shopping,.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ajay: wich android phone you are using? What is the cost? And what about
 e5?
 It is stil with you? Can you call me? Because i am also thinking to buy it
 on deevali...
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  04.10.2012, 10.52  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 I totally agree with srikant sir. I am using e5 till getting a new
 touch screen android device. After that I will surely dump this stupid
 nokia.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Syed Imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Shona:
 I'm smiling as I write this. Nuance Talks and Eloquence synthesiser on a
 Smartphone with a physical keypad is by far the most accessible phone for
 some blind folks. One way or the other, we all are correct because our
 accessibility needs are more or less varied within ourselves.
 Even though I have provided the highest ratings to Apple devices, I still
 think Apple has to improve on many things to meet my accessibility needs
 completely, and something makes me wonder by Jove! Whether my needs have
 an
 end.
 Whether it's Android or ions, You'll find me grumbling about absence of
 eloquence TTS which is more spontaneous and generally less latent
 synthesiser out there and absence of tactile feedback on touch screen
 devices will certainly render these devices somewhat incapable of serving
 me.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of mukesh jain
 Sent: 04 October 2012 09:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 hello,
 i am using samsung galaxy sIII I9300 and enjoying using the same with big
 screen. as someone asked for android titorial i can send the manual of
 this
 book in etext format if that helps.
 thanks,
 mukesh.

 On 10/4/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 undoubtedly talks had changed our lives from that of no speech on
 phone to a powerful user of symbion. however there is no comparison
 between apple products as they are way above the pipe line. a visually
 impaired dream of using touch screen wouldn't have been possible
 without apples revolutionary screen reader Voice-over. there is
 nothing to do with a keypad for accessibility. i can be more confident
 with an I devise for doing most of the things than with a devise with
 talks. except for maps now and that too may for very less period i
 could do virtually anything starting from browsing to independent
 living. i have access to App store and play store for android users
 which i would have never dreamed of with stupid Nokia which would
 never make it Ovi store accessible despite numerous complaints from
 V.I users. apps like Look tell reader, OCR applications, bar code
 scanners, streaming applications, mobile banking apps like ICICI in
 India, Fleksy a revolutionary typing app and vied variety of apps
 enhances productivity on IOS with accessibility built in. on android
 the ideal web readers eyes free, talk back, speel, mobile
 accessibility suit with different accessible apps Etc. had definitely
 improved our productivity on touch devises. i feel it is the time to
 shift away from physical navigation to touch devise streams.

 On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to
 sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Prashant Ranjan Verma]

Hello all,
Please note that although android provides access to unlimited number of apps 
and new features in terms of accessibility there are still several challenges 
as compared to Symbian phones with commercial screen readers.
1. Using the IVR during a call
2. looking up contacts during a call
3. distinguishing between outgoing, incoming and missed calls in the log is not 
straight forward 
4. looking up contacts with touch screen is time taking although I am now 
getting good results with voice search 
5. GPS navigation experience is not as smooth as NOKIA although it is more 
accurate 
6. most of the times you will need two hands to operate touch screen phones 
7. operating the touch screen when the phone is held close to the ear may not 
be possible, you may feel the need for hands free many times

There may be more items to this list. But the android device feels much more 
than a phone in the hand. It gives you the feeling as if it is a device with 
life and immense possibilities. It is definitely much more than a phone and for 
people who use the phone only for calling the time spent on learning it is a 
waste.

And I feel sorry for talks and spiel as they are being compared to a commercial 
product like TALKS. Talks should be compared more to mobile accessibility in 
the case of android. Mobile accessibility does fill up many accessibility 
shortcomings in android.

Prashant 



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
amit patel
Sent: 05 October 2012 14:39
To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

i have used both nokia and android. but  from accessibility  point of view my 
stoopid e5 is yet better then android.

On 10/5/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Arae! Stil you are calling e5 stupid phone?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  05.10.2012, 7.24  am
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hi sir,
 Still I am stuck with e5. but you have a decent amount of phones to
 choose from. Happy shopping,.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ajay: wich android phone you are using? What is the cost? And what about
 e5?
 It is stil with you? Can you call me? Because i am also thinking to buy it
 on deevali...
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  04.10.2012, 10.52  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 I totally agree with srikant sir. I am using e5 till getting a new
 touch screen android device. After that I will surely dump this stupid
 nokia.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Syed Imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Shona:
 I'm smiling as I write this. Nuance Talks and Eloquence synthesiser on a
 Smartphone with a physical keypad is by far the most accessible phone for
 some blind folks. One way or the other, we all are correct because our
 accessibility needs are more or less varied within ourselves.
 Even though I have provided the highest ratings to Apple devices, I still
 think Apple has to improve on many things to meet my accessibility needs
 completely, and something makes me wonder by Jove! Whether my needs have
 an
 end.
 Whether it's Android or ions, You'll find me grumbling about absence of
 eloquence TTS which is more spontaneous and generally less latent
 synthesiser out there and absence of tactile feedback on touch screen
 devices will certainly render these devices somewhat incapable of serving
 me.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of mukesh jain
 Sent: 04 October 2012 09:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 hello,
 i am using samsung galaxy sIII I9300 and enjoying using the same with big
 screen. as someone asked for android titorial i can send the manual of
 this
 book in etext format if that helps.
 thanks,
 mukesh.

 On 10/4/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 undoubtedly talks had changed our lives from that of no speech on
 phone to a powerful user of symbion. however there is no comparison
 between apple products as they are way above the pipe line. a visually
 impaired dream of using touch screen wouldn't have been possible
 without apples revolutionary screen reader Voice-over. there is
 nothing to do with a keypad for accessibility. i can be more confident

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[PRASHANTH]

Does the word processor on android is accessible with talkBack?

Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
Will Durant
With Regards: Prashanth
Mobile#:9480555815
- Original Message - 
From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


Hello all,
Please note that although android provides access to unlimited number of 
apps and new features in terms of accessibility there are still several 
challenges as compared to Symbian phones with commercial screen readers.
1. Using the IVR during a call
2. looking up contacts during a call
3. distinguishing between outgoing, incoming and missed calls in the log is 
not straight forward
4. looking up contacts with touch screen is time taking although I am now 
getting good results with voice search
5. GPS navigation experience is not as smooth as NOKIA although it is more 
accurate
6. most of the times you will need two hands to operate touch screen phones
7. operating the touch screen when the phone is held close to the ear may 
not be possible, you may feel the need for hands free many times

There may be more items to this list. But the android device feels much more 
than a phone in the hand. It gives you the feeling as if it is a device with 
life and immense possibilities. It is definitely much more than a phone and 
for people who use the phone only for calling the time spent on learning it 
is a waste.

And I feel sorry for talks and spiel as they are being compared to a 
commercial product like TALKS. Talks should be compared more to mobile 
accessibility in the case of android. Mobile accessibility does fill up many 
accessibility shortcomings in android.

Prashant



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf 
Of amit patel
Sent: 05 October 2012 14:39
To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

i have used both nokia and android. but  from accessibility  point of view 
my stoopid e5 is yet better then android.

On 10/5/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Arae! Stil you are calling e5 stupid phone?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  05.10.2012, 7.24  am
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hi sir,
 Still I am stuck with e5. but you have a decent amount of phones to
 choose from. Happy shopping,.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ajay: wich android phone you are using? What is the cost? And what about
 e5?
 It is stil with you? Can you call me? Because i am also thinking to buy 
 it
 on deevali...
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  04.10.2012, 10.52  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 I totally agree with srikant sir. I am using e5 till getting a new
 touch screen android device. After that I will surely dump this stupid
 nokia.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Syed Imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Shona:
 I'm smiling as I write this. Nuance Talks and Eloquence synthesiser on a
 Smartphone with a physical keypad is by far the most accessible phone 
 for
 some blind folks. One way or the other, we all are correct because our
 accessibility needs are more or less varied within ourselves.
 Even though I have provided the highest ratings to Apple devices, I 
 still
 think Apple has to improve on many things to meet my accessibility needs
 completely, and something makes me wonder by Jove! Whether my needs have
 an
 end.
 Whether it's Android or ions, You'll find me grumbling about absence of
 eloquence TTS which is more spontaneous and generally less latent
 synthesiser out there and absence of tactile feedback on touch screen
 devices will certainly render these devices somewhat incapable of 
 serving
 me.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of mukesh jain
 Sent: 04 October 2012 09:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 hello,
 i am using samsung galaxy sIII I9300 and enjoying using the same with 
 big
 screen. as someone asked for android titorial i can send the manual of
 this
 book in etext format if that helps.
 thanks,
 mukesh.

 On 10/4/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 undoubtedly talks

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[BHAVESH]

Hi folks,

Here is an in-depth look at both the operating systems, I Phone and
Android respectively. I am pasteing 3 links to collection of audio
podcasts I downloaded from various websites for you. These can be used
to decide whether you want to purchase any of the OS .  The details
are below. Note: if HTTPS prevents you from downloading the file,
you can copy the URL, and paste it in the address bar of your browser
and remove the letter s from the URL .
1. these are purely Iphone based podcasts. Although some are done with
Iphhone 3gs, they might be helpfull for your basics of Voiceover.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/I%20Phone.zip
the file size is 340 MB
2. An in-depth look at the android OS, including GPS.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/android.zip
the file size is 410 MB
3. and finally, for those who are confused between which OS to choos,
here are some IOS and Android comparison podcasts which may help you
choos one OS:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11136634/Android%20and%20Iphone%20compareson.zip
the file size is 81.3 MB
I hope that these prove helpfull to you.
Thanks and regards,
Bhavesh

On 10/5/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does the word processor on android is accessible with talkBack?

 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hello all,
 Please note that although android provides access to unlimited number of
 apps and new features in terms of accessibility there are still several
 challenges as compared to Symbian phones with commercial screen readers.
 1. Using the IVR during a call
 2. looking up contacts during a call
 3. distinguishing between outgoing, incoming and missed calls in the log is
 not straight forward
 4. looking up contacts with touch screen is time taking although I am now
 getting good results with voice search
 5. GPS navigation experience is not as smooth as NOKIA although it is more
 accurate
 6. most of the times you will need two hands to operate touch screen phones
 7. operating the touch screen when the phone is held close to the ear may
 not be possible, you may feel the need for hands free many times

 There may be more items to this list. But the android device feels much more
 than a phone in the hand. It gives you the feeling as if it is a device with
 life and immense possibilities. It is definitely much more than a phone and
 for people who use the phone only for calling the time spent on learning it
 is a waste.

 And I feel sorry for talks and spiel as they are being compared to a
 commercial product like TALKS. Talks should be compared more to mobile
 accessibility in the case of android. Mobile accessibility does fill up many
 accessibility shortcomings in android.

 Prashant



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of amit patel
 Sent: 05 October 2012 14:39
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 i have used both nokia and android. but  from accessibility  point of view
 my stoopid e5 is yet better then android.

 On 10/5/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Arae! Stil you are calling e5 stupid phone?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  05.10.2012, 7.24  am
 To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Hi sir,
 Still I am stuck with e5. but you have a decent amount of phones to
 choose from. Happy shopping,.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ajay: wich android phone you are using? What is the cost? And what about
 e5?
 It is stil with you? Can you call me? Because i am also thinking to buy
 it
 on deevali...
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  04.10.2012, 10.52  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 I totally agree with srikant sir. I am using e5 till getting a new
 touch screen android device. After that I will surely dump this stupid
 nokia.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Syed Imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Shona:
 I'm smiling as I write this. Nuance Talks and Eloquence synthesiser on a
 Smartphone with a physical keypad is by far the most accessible phone

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Syed Imran]

Shona:
I'm smiling as I write this. Nuance Talks and Eloquence synthesiser on a 
Smartphone with a physical keypad is by far the most accessible phone for some 
blind folks. One way or the other, we all are correct because our accessibility 
needs are more or less varied within ourselves.
Even though I have provided the highest ratings to Apple devices, I still think 
Apple has to improve on many things to meet my accessibility needs completely, 
and something makes me wonder by Jove! Whether my needs have an end.
Whether it's Android or ions, You'll find me grumbling about absence of 
eloquence TTS which is more spontaneous and generally less latent synthesiser 
out there and absence of tactile feedback on touch screen devices will 
certainly render these devices somewhat incapable of serving me.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
mukesh jain
Sent: 04 October 2012 09:43
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

hello,
i am using samsung galaxy sIII I9300 and enjoying using the same with big 
screen. as someone asked for android titorial i can send the manual of this 
book in etext format if that helps.
thanks,
mukesh.

On 10/4/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 undoubtedly talks had changed our lives from that of no speech on 
 phone to a powerful user of symbion. however there is no comparison 
 between apple products as they are way above the pipe line. a visually 
 impaired dream of using touch screen wouldn't have been possible 
 without apples revolutionary screen reader Voice-over. there is 
 nothing to do with a keypad for accessibility. i can be more confident 
 with an I devise for doing most of the things than with a devise with 
 talks. except for maps now and that too may for very less period i 
 could do virtually anything starting from browsing to independent 
 living. i have access to App store and play store for android users 
 which i would have never dreamed of with stupid Nokia which would 
 never make it Ovi store accessible despite numerous complaints from 
 V.I users. apps like Look tell reader, OCR applications, bar code 
 scanners, streaming applications, mobile banking apps like ICICI in 
 India, Fleksy a revolutionary typing app and vied variety of apps 
 enhances productivity on IOS with accessibility built in. on android 
 the ideal web readers eyes free, talk back, speel, mobile 
 accessibility suit with different accessible apps Etc. had definitely 
 improved our productivity on touch devises. i feel it is the time to 
 shift away from physical navigation to touch devise streams.

 On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility 
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no 
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear 
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in 
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a 
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any 
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Yes, send a blank email to
 eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


 On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the
 camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this
 phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ajay Minocha]

I totally agree with srikant sir. I am using e5 till getting a new
touch screen android device. After that I will surely dump this stupid
nokia.
regards

On 10/4/12, Syed Imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Shona:
 I'm smiling as I write this. Nuance Talks and Eloquence synthesiser on a
 Smartphone with a physical keypad is by far the most accessible phone for
 some blind folks. One way or the other, we all are correct because our
 accessibility needs are more or less varied within ourselves.
 Even though I have provided the highest ratings to Apple devices, I still
 think Apple has to improve on many things to meet my accessibility needs
 completely, and something makes me wonder by Jove! Whether my needs have an
 end.
 Whether it's Android or ions, You'll find me grumbling about absence of
 eloquence TTS which is more spontaneous and generally less latent
 synthesiser out there and absence of tactile feedback on touch screen
 devices will certainly render these devices somewhat incapable of serving
 me.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of mukesh jain
 Sent: 04 October 2012 09:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 hello,
 i am using samsung galaxy sIII I9300 and enjoying using the same with big
 screen. as someone asked for android titorial i can send the manual of this
 book in etext format if that helps.
 thanks,
 mukesh.

 On 10/4/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 undoubtedly talks had changed our lives from that of no speech on
 phone to a powerful user of symbion. however there is no comparison
 between apple products as they are way above the pipe line. a visually
 impaired dream of using touch screen wouldn't have been possible
 without apples revolutionary screen reader Voice-over. there is
 nothing to do with a keypad for accessibility. i can be more confident
 with an I devise for doing most of the things than with a devise with
 talks. except for maps now and that too may for very less period i
 could do virtually anything starting from browsing to independent
 living. i have access to App store and play store for android users
 which i would have never dreamed of with stupid Nokia which would
 never make it Ovi store accessible despite numerous complaints from
 V.I users. apps like Look tell reader, OCR applications, bar code
 scanners, streaming applications, mobile banking apps like ICICI in
 India, Fleksy a revolutionary typing app and vied variety of apps
 enhances productivity on IOS with accessibility built in. on android
 the ideal web readers eyes free, talk back, speel, mobile
 accessibility suit with different accessible apps Etc. had definitely
 improved our productivity on touch devises. i feel it is the time to
 shift away from physical navigation to touch devise streams.

 On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Yes, send a blank email to
 eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


 On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the
 camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Surendra Salgaonkar)]

Ajay: wich android phone you are using? What is the cost? And what about e5? It 
is stil with you? Can you call me? Because i am also thinking to buy it on 
deevali...
Thank you  good luck!
Surendra Salgaonkar
Phones.
:+919867645933
:+912226473918
Emails.
Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
 Skype.
Link salgaonkarskype
-Original message-
From: Ajay Minocha
Sent:  04.10.2012, 10.52  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


I totally agree with srikant sir. I am using e5 till getting a new
touch screen android device. After that I will surely dump this stupid
nokia.
regards

On 10/4/12, Syed Imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Shona:
 I'm smiling as I write this. Nuance Talks and Eloquence synthesiser on a
 Smartphone with a physical keypad is by far the most accessible phone for
 some blind folks. One way or the other, we all are correct because our
 accessibility needs are more or less varied within ourselves.
 Even though I have provided the highest ratings to Apple devices, I still
 think Apple has to improve on many things to meet my accessibility needs
 completely, and something makes me wonder by Jove! Whether my needs have an
 end.
 Whether it's Android or ions, You'll find me grumbling about absence of
 eloquence TTS which is more spontaneous and generally less latent
 synthesiser out there and absence of tactile feedback on touch screen
 devices will certainly render these devices somewhat incapable of serving
 me.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of mukesh jain
 Sent: 04 October 2012 09:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 hello,
 i am using samsung galaxy sIII I9300 and enjoying using the same with big
 screen. as someone asked for android titorial i can send the manual of this
 book in etext format if that helps.
 thanks,
 mukesh.

 On 10/4/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 undoubtedly talks had changed our lives from that of no speech on
 phone to a powerful user of symbion. however there is no comparison
 between apple products as they are way above the pipe line. a visually
 impaired dream of using touch screen wouldn't have been possible
 without apples revolutionary screen reader Voice-over. there is
 nothing to do with a keypad for accessibility. i can be more confident
 with an I devise for doing most of the things than with a devise with
 talks. except for maps now and that too may for very less period i
 could do virtually anything starting from browsing to independent
 living. i have access to App store and play store for android users
 which i would have never dreamed of with stupid Nokia which would
 never make it Ovi store accessible despite numerous complaints from
 V.I users. apps like Look tell reader, OCR applications, bar code
 scanners, streaming applications, mobile banking apps like ICICI in
 India, Fleksy a revolutionary typing app and vied variety of apps
 enhances productivity on IOS with accessibility built in. on android
 the ideal web readers eyes free, talk back, speel, mobile
 accessibility suit with different accessible apps Etc. had definitely
 improved our productivity on touch devises. i feel it is the time to
 shift away from physical navigation to touch devise streams.

 On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Yes, send a blank email to
 eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


 On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ajay Minocha]

Hi sir,
Still I am stuck with e5. but you have a decent amount of phones to
choose from. Happy shopping,.
regards

On 10/4/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ajay: wich android phone you are using? What is the cost? And what about e5?
 It is stil with you? Can you call me? Because i am also thinking to buy it
 on deevali...
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  04.10.2012, 10.52  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 I totally agree with srikant sir. I am using e5 till getting a new
 touch screen android device. After that I will surely dump this stupid
 nokia.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Syed Imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Shona:
 I'm smiling as I write this. Nuance Talks and Eloquence synthesiser on a
 Smartphone with a physical keypad is by far the most accessible phone for
 some blind folks. One way or the other, we all are correct because our
 accessibility needs are more or less varied within ourselves.
 Even though I have provided the highest ratings to Apple devices, I still
 think Apple has to improve on many things to meet my accessibility needs
 completely, and something makes me wonder by Jove! Whether my needs have
 an
 end.
 Whether it's Android or ions, You'll find me grumbling about absence of
 eloquence TTS which is more spontaneous and generally less latent
 synthesiser out there and absence of tactile feedback on touch screen
 devices will certainly render these devices somewhat incapable of serving
 me.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of mukesh jain
 Sent: 04 October 2012 09:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 hello,
 i am using samsung galaxy sIII I9300 and enjoying using the same with big
 screen. as someone asked for android titorial i can send the manual of
 this
 book in etext format if that helps.
 thanks,
 mukesh.

 On 10/4/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 undoubtedly talks had changed our lives from that of no speech on
 phone to a powerful user of symbion. however there is no comparison
 between apple products as they are way above the pipe line. a visually
 impaired dream of using touch screen wouldn't have been possible
 without apples revolutionary screen reader Voice-over. there is
 nothing to do with a keypad for accessibility. i can be more confident
 with an I devise for doing most of the things than with a devise with
 talks. except for maps now and that too may for very less period i
 could do virtually anything starting from browsing to independent
 living. i have access to App store and play store for android users
 which i would have never dreamed of with stupid Nokia which would
 never make it Ovi store accessible despite numerous complaints from
 V.I users. apps like Look tell reader, OCR applications, bar code
 scanners, streaming applications, mobile banking apps like ICICI in
 India, Fleksy a revolutionary typing app and vied variety of apps
 enhances productivity on IOS with accessibility built in. on android
 the ideal web readers eyes free, talk back, speel, mobile
 accessibility suit with different accessible apps Etc. had definitely
 improved our productivity on touch devises. i feel it is the time to
 shift away from physical navigation to touch devise streams.

 On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to
 sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Yes, send a blank email to
 eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


 On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Surendra Salgaonkar)]

Arae! Stil you are calling e5 stupid phone?
Thank you  good luck!
Surendra Salgaonkar
Phones.
:+919867645933
:+912226473918
Emails.
Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
 Skype.
Link salgaonkarskype
-Original message-
From: Ajay Minocha
Sent:  05.10.2012, 7.24  am
To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


Hi sir,
Still I am stuck with e5. but you have a decent amount of phones to
choose from. Happy shopping,.
regards

On 10/4/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ajay: wich android phone you are using? What is the cost? And what about e5?
 It is stil with you? Can you call me? Because i am also thinking to buy it
 on deevali...
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Ajay Minocha
 Sent:  04.10.2012, 10.52  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 I totally agree with srikant sir. I am using e5 till getting a new
 touch screen android device. After that I will surely dump this stupid
 nokia.
 regards

 On 10/4/12, Syed Imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Shona:
 I'm smiling as I write this. Nuance Talks and Eloquence synthesiser on a
 Smartphone with a physical keypad is by far the most accessible phone for
 some blind folks. One way or the other, we all are correct because our
 accessibility needs are more or less varied within ourselves.
 Even though I have provided the highest ratings to Apple devices, I still
 think Apple has to improve on many things to meet my accessibility needs
 completely, and something makes me wonder by Jove! Whether my needs have
 an
 end.
 Whether it's Android or ions, You'll find me grumbling about absence of
 eloquence TTS which is more spontaneous and generally less latent
 synthesiser out there and absence of tactile feedback on touch screen
 devices will certainly render these devices somewhat incapable of serving
 me.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of mukesh jain
 Sent: 04 October 2012 09:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 hello,
 i am using samsung galaxy sIII I9300 and enjoying using the same with big
 screen. as someone asked for android titorial i can send the manual of
 this
 book in etext format if that helps.
 thanks,
 mukesh.

 On 10/4/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 undoubtedly talks had changed our lives from that of no speech on
 phone to a powerful user of symbion. however there is no comparison
 between apple products as they are way above the pipe line. a visually
 impaired dream of using touch screen wouldn't have been possible
 without apples revolutionary screen reader Voice-over. there is
 nothing to do with a keypad for accessibility. i can be more confident
 with an I devise for doing most of the things than with a devise with
 talks. except for maps now and that too may for very less period i
 could do virtually anything starting from browsing to independent
 living. i have access to App store and play store for android users
 which i would have never dreamed of with stupid Nokia which would
 never make it Ovi store accessible despite numerous complaints from
 V.I users. apps like Look tell reader, OCR applications, bar code
 scanners, streaming applications, mobile banking apps like ICICI in
 India, Fleksy a revolutionary typing app and vied variety of apps
 enhances productivity on IOS with accessibility built in. on android
 the ideal web readers eyes free, talk back, speel, mobile
 accessibility suit with different accessible apps Etc. had definitely
 improved our productivity on touch devises. i feel it is the time to
 shift away from physical navigation to touch devise streams.

 On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to
 sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Rahul Kelapure]

I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
again Android 4.0.

I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
my friends in office.

Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
I find something intresting while exploring.

Thanks and warm regards,

Rahul.

On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone’s integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out installing
 ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[PRASHANTH]

Does Funbook is accessible with talkBack?


Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
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With Regards: Prashanth
Mobile#:9480555815
- Original Message - 
From: Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
again Android 4.0.

I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
my friends in office.

Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
I find something intresting while exploring.

Thanks and warm regards,

Rahul.

On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone’s integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out installing
 ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Salman Raafay]

Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
phone, my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under
this phone like hand held magnifyer?

On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone’s integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out installing
 ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything
 on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic
 big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an
 unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Radha]

well, touch explore app is inbuilt in which mobile? else available
with play store?

On 10/3/12, Salman Raafay salmanraa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone, my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under
 this phone like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone’s integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out installing
 ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as
 a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything
 on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and
 I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send
 sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic
 big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an
 unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Rahul Kelapure]

It is, however, I must say, I have not used it extensively. my main
motive behind it was for reading books, but yet to do that.

Please let me know, if you have been able to find some brakethrough

On 10/3/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does Funbook is accessible with talkBack?


 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone’s integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out installing
 ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything
 on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic
 big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an
 unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[akhilesh]

Hi Ketan,
As far accessibility for totaly blind person is concern, there is no
comparison between androit and Iphone. Android is in developing stage,
and Apple products specially Iphone has gone far beyond than one can
imagine!!!

For more details on accessibility of apple products and Iphone, Please
visit blind cool tech podcast at:

blindcooltech.com
To see the accessibility of Iphone wayback in 2009 please download the
following Mp3 file:
http://media.libsyn.com/media/bct/bct1392iPhoneBasics.mp3
And:
http://media.libsyn.com/media/bct/bct1371iPhoneReview.mp3

Thanks,


On 10/3/12, Radha r.radh...@gmail.com wrote:
 well, touch explore app is inbuilt in which mobile? else available
 with play store?

 On 10/3/12, Salman Raafay salmanraa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone, my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under
 this phone like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone’s integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing
 ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the
 issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as
 a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything
 on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and
 I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send
 sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic
 big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an
 unnecessary
 

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[PRASHANTH]

Could you tell, how to enable the accessibility features in FunBook?
My friend is having it and wanted to test.

Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
Will Durant
With Regards: Prashanth
Mobile#:9480555815
- Original Message - 
From: Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


It is, however, I must say, I have not used it extensively. my main
motive behind it was for reading books, but yet to do that.

Please let me know, if you have been able to find some brakethrough

On 10/3/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does Funbook is accessible with talkBack?


 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone’s integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out installing
 ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything
 on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic
 big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srikanth Kanuri]

hi all, i tried accessibility on my friends nexus 7 with latest
android version. there are good accessibility improvements but still
it lags. there are gestures for starting talk back directly but had no
luck while trying them. there is no provision to read from current
position in mail or web which is really a set back correct me if am
wrong on this issue. though the home screens are accessible, i find
many google's stock apps to be  inaccessible. on entirety it is
promisingly improving interface but as of now i stick to IPhone
excellent accessibility. i could find few excellent apps which makes
my choice promising.

On 10/3/12, Radha r.radh...@gmail.com wrote:
 well, touch explore app is inbuilt in which mobile? else available
 with play store?

 On 10/3/12, Salman Raafay salmanraa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone, my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under
 this phone like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone’s integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing
 ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the
 issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as
 a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything
 on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and
 I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send
 sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic
 big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally 

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Rahul Kelapure]

Hi Radha, the app was available in my friend's Samsung Note. This must
be available in PlayStore I asume, Haven't checked myself though.

Hi Prashant, I found the Accessability Options in Settings menue of
the Funbook. So far, I had used the Tab for brousing Internet mostly.
there are few inbuilt options there. I had to take sited person's help
in activating those.

Another irritating thing I found in Funbook is that, You cannot use
the devise seemlessly, as it keeps you asking username and password in
lot of apps all the time.

I am feeling, using Android mobile is better accessabilitywize than
the Android Tab, I don't know why.

On 10/3/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Could you tell, how to enable the accessibility features in FunBook?
 My friend is having it and wanted to test.

 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 12:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 It is, however, I must say, I have not used it extensively. my main
 motive behind it was for reading books, but yet to do that.

 Please let me know, if you have been able to find some brakethrough

 On 10/3/12, PRASHANTH prashanthmn1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does Funbook is accessible with talkBack?


 Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
 Will Durant
 With Regards: Prashanth
 Mobile#:9480555815
 - Original Message -
 From: Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone’s integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out installing
 ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as
 a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything
 on
 the
 phone although several things take

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Friends,

I wish to communicate personally with those of you who are using
Iphone.  Could you kindly please send me you contact details off-list
at muktake...@gmail.com or on my mobile number 09987550614?  I will
appreciate all the help.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi all, i tried accessibility on my friends nexus 7 with latest
 android version. there are good accessibility improvements but still
 it lags. there are gestures for starting talk back directly but had no
 luck while trying them. there is no provision to read from current
 position in mail or web which is really a set back correct me if am
 wrong on this issue. though the home screens are accessible, i find
 many google's stock apps to be  inaccessible. on entirety it is
 promisingly improving interface but as of now i stick to IPhone
 excellent accessibility. i could find few excellent apps which makes
 my choice promising.

 On 10/3/12, Radha r.radh...@gmail.com wrote:
 well, touch explore app is inbuilt in which mobile? else available
 with play store?

 On 10/3/12, Salman Raafay salmanraa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone, my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under
 this phone like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone’s integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing
 ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much
 longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the
 issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet
 is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as
 a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do
 everything
 on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a
 phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved
 and
 I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send
 sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The 

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Raaj]

To make it short, android and IPhone both are like ruling party and 
opposition party as per the present trend.


As far as I've heard, as per the android, we have to do some modifications 
and install substitute applications to make it partly accessible. But as per 
the IPhone, it is hundred per cent accessible out of the box.


for further informations, grab podcasts from

http://www.blindcooltech.com
- Original Message - 
From: Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3



Dear Friends,

I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
Android.

Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

I look forward to good discussion.

With regards,

Ketan

On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hello,
I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that 
along

with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is full
of
comparisons.
I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
will
arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps application
is
not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a 
part

of my professional work.

With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has 
become
accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on 
the

phone although several things take much more time as compared to a phone
with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I am
eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible
to
do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms 
with

the voice recognition  app.

This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge makes
the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful. They
convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition 
to

the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
extra expenditure on a big screen.


Time permitting I will write more on this.

Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Prashant Ranjan Verma]

There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play store.
They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the camera.
These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading light.

It can be used to read any printed matter. 


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Salman Raafay
Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this phone,
my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this phone
like hand held magnifyer?

On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with 
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here 
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by 
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt 
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which 
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever 
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which 
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes 
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice 
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get 
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because 
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out 
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good 
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the 
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much 
 longer than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking 
 at a high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I 
 would like some advice on this topic from those who are using 
 either systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully 
 accessible out of the box but I would like to have some more 
 knowledge on Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind 
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the 
 issue since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know 
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and 
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India 
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps 
 application is not likely to work in India until further few 
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android 
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone 
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to 
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more 
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice 
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for 
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more 
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms 
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The 
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size 
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital magnifying 
 apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious 
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K 
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person yet. 
 It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Rahul Kelapure]

Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
Android? It will be very useful.

On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much
 longer than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking
 at a high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I
 would like some advice on this topic from those who are using
 either systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully
 accessible out of the box but I would like to have some more
 knowledge on Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the
 issue since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital magnifying
 apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person yet.
 It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srikanth Kanuri]

any mailing lists for android accessibility?

On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much
 longer than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking
 at a high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I
 would like some advice on this topic from those who are using
 either systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully
 accessible out of the box but I would like to have some more
 knowledge on Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the
 issue since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital magnifying
 apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
 competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K
 and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Kakarla Nageswaraiah]

Yes, send a blank email to
eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much
 longer than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking
 at a high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I
 would like some advice on this topic from those who are using
 either systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully
 accessible out of the box but I would like to have some more
 knowledge on Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the
 issue since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am eagerly waiting for
 its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to do more
 with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
 fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font size
 to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital magnifying
 apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Syed Imran]

I disagree to your statement that iPhone is 100% accessible because pages,
numbers and keynote is not completely accessible.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Raaj
Sent: 03 October 2012 16:03
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

To make it short, android and IPhone both are like ruling party and
opposition party as per the present trend.

As far as I've heard, as per the android, we have to do some modifications
and install substitute applications to make it partly accessible. But as per
the IPhone, it is hundred per cent accessible out of the box.

for further informations, grab podcasts from

http://www.blindcooltech.com
- Original Message -
From: Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that 
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a 
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has 
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on 
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms 
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful. They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition 
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Syed Imran]

It's hard to express with full accuracy how things will turn out in future
from accessibility perspective for the blind. As things stand currently, I'd
give the highest rating to Apple when it comes to maintaining accessibility
standards, then Nuance Talks and mobile speak, after that comes android and
next comes blackberry screen reader.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Srikanth Kanuri
Sent: 03 October 2012 12:26
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

hi all, i tried accessibility on my friends nexus 7 with latest android
version. there are good accessibility improvements but still it lags. there
are gestures for starting talk back directly but had no luck while trying
them. there is no provision to read from current position in mail or web
which is really a set back correct me if am wrong on this issue. though the
home screens are accessible, i find many google's stock apps to be
inaccessible. on entirety it is promisingly improving interface but as of
now i stick to IPhone excellent accessibility. i could find few excellent
apps which makes my choice promising.

On 10/3/12, Radha r.radh...@gmail.com wrote:
 well, touch explore app is inbuilt in which mobile? else available 
 with play store?

 On 10/3/12, Salman Raafay salmanraa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this 
 phone, my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under 
 this phone like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with 
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here 
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks 
 by my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt 
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which 
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update 
 whenever I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing 
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again 
 which is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not 
 eyes free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice 
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get 
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because 
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out 
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good 
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the 
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much 
 longer than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am 
 looking at a high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and 
 Iphone.  I would like some advice on this topic from those who 
 are using either systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or 
 almost fully accessible out of the box but I would like to have 
 some more knowledge on Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind 
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the 
 issue since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know 
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and 
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India 
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps 
 application is not likely to work in India until further few 
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on 
 android as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone 
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible 
 to do everything on the phone although several things take much 
 more time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice 
 recognition feature is much improved

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Surendra Salgaonkar)]

Dear ones,
 I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to sign. So 
what to do?
Thank you  good luck!
Surendra Salgaonkar
Phones.
:+919867645933
:+912226473918
Emails.
Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
 Skype.
Link salgaonkarskype
-Original message-
From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


Yes, send a blank email to
eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much
 longer than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking
 at a high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I
 would like some advice on this topic from those who are using
 either systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully
 accessible out of the box but I would like to have some more
 knowledge on Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the
 issue since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application is not likely to work in India until further few
 months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android
 as a part of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone
 has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to
 do everything on the phone although several things take much more
 time as compared to a phone with full keypad. The voice
 recognition feature is much improved and I am

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Shona Man]

@ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
comparision to phone having physical keypad?
@ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
second thought?

On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to sign. So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Yes, send a blank email to
 eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


 On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much
 longer than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking
 at a high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I
 would like some advice on this topic from those who are using
 either systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully
 accessible out of the box but I would like to have some more
 knowledge on Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the
 issue since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Srikanth Kanuri]

undoubtedly talks had changed our lives from that of no speech on
phone to a powerful user of symbion. however there is no comparison
between apple products as they are way above the pipe line. a visually
impaired dream of using touch screen wouldn't have been possible
without apples revolutionary screen reader Voice-over. there is
nothing to do with a keypad for accessibility. i can be more confident
with an I devise for doing most of the things than with a devise with
talks. except for maps now and that too may for very less period i
could do virtually anything starting from browsing to independent
living. i have access to App store and play store for android users
which i would have never dreamed of with stupid Nokia which would
never make it Ovi store accessible despite numerous complaints from
V.I users. apps like Look tell reader, OCR applications, bar code
scanners, streaming applications, mobile banking apps like ICICI in
India, Fleksy a revolutionary typing app and vied variety of apps
enhances productivity on IOS with accessibility built in. on android
the ideal web readers eyes free, talk back, speel, mobile
accessibility suit with different accessible apps Etc. had definitely
improved our productivity on touch devises. i feel it is the time to
shift away from physical navigation to touch devise streams.

On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Yes, send a blank email to
 eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


 On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the
 camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this
 phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[mukesh jain]

hello,
i am using samsung galaxy sIII I9300 and enjoying using the same with
big screen. as someone asked for android titorial i can send the
manual of this book in etext format if that helps.
thanks,
mukesh.

On 10/4/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 undoubtedly talks had changed our lives from that of no speech on
 phone to a powerful user of symbion. however there is no comparison
 between apple products as they are way above the pipe line. a visually
 impaired dream of using touch screen wouldn't have been possible
 without apples revolutionary screen reader Voice-over. there is
 nothing to do with a keypad for accessibility. i can be more confident
 with an I devise for doing most of the things than with a devise with
 talks. except for maps now and that too may for very less period i
 could do virtually anything starting from browsing to independent
 living. i have access to App store and play store for android users
 which i would have never dreamed of with stupid Nokia which would
 never make it Ovi store accessible despite numerous complaints from
 V.I users. apps like Look tell reader, OCR applications, bar code
 scanners, streaming applications, mobile banking apps like ICICI in
 India, Fleksy a revolutionary typing app and vied variety of apps
 enhances productivity on IOS with accessibility built in. on android
 the ideal web readers eyes free, talk back, speel, mobile
 accessibility suit with different accessible apps Etc. had definitely
 improved our productivity on touch devises. i feel it is the time to
 shift away from physical navigation to touch devise streams.

 On 10/4/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 @ Syed Imran, I am amaised that you have rated I Phone accessibility
 better then nuance talks and mobile accessibility! I think that no
 screen reader can beat talks in terms of accessibility and clear
 elequence sinthesiser. How I phone can be more accessible in
 comparision to phone having physical keypad?
 @ others, has any one any clue when I Phone is going to come with a
 physical keypad phone so that we also could perchase with out any
 second thought?

 On 10/3/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  I also want to join this group. But i am using e5 so difficult to sign.
 So
 what to do?
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
 Link salgaonkarskype
 -Original message-
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 Sent:  03.10.2012, 7.13  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


 Yes, send a blank email to
 eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com


 On 10/3/12, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 any mailing lists for android accessibility?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats great! is there any for OCR as well?

 Also, is there any titorials available whether text or audio for
 Android? It will be very useful.

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are free apps like Silver magnifier, your magnifier in the play
 store.
 They use the phone camera to magnify the object placed under the
 camera.
 These apps also have the option of using the flash light as a reading
 light.

 It can be used to read any printed matter.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Salman Raafay
 Sent: 03 October 2012 11:38
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone,
 my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under this
 phone
 like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks
 by
 my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update whenever
 I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
 is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
 free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get

Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Asudani, Rajesh]

In android  2.3 with eyes free shell and eyes free keyboard and talk back, can 
one enable double touch feature?
I mean one light touch should tell what the button is, and second touch 
activate it.
If not, what else is the way of accessibly handling such a device?


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Syed Imran
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:13 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

It's hard to express with full accuracy how things will turn out in future
from accessibility perspective for the blind. As things stand currently, I'd
give the highest rating to Apple when it comes to maintaining accessibility
standards, then Nuance Talks and mobile speak, after that comes android and
next comes blackberry screen reader.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Srikanth Kanuri
Sent: 03 October 2012 12:26
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

hi all, i tried accessibility on my friends nexus 7 with latest android
version. there are good accessibility improvements but still it lags. there
are gestures for starting talk back directly but had no luck while trying
them. there is no provision to read from current position in mail or web
which is really a set back correct me if am wrong on this issue. though the
home screens are accessible, i find many google's stock apps to be
inaccessible. on entirety it is promisingly improving interface but as of
now i stick to IPhone excellent accessibility. i could find few excellent
apps which makes my choice promising.

On 10/3/12, Radha r.radh...@gmail.com wrote:
 well, touch explore app is inbuilt in which mobile? else available
 with play store?

 On 10/3/12, Salman Raafay salmanraa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Prashant, you mentioned about digital magnifying capacity of this
 phone, my query is that can it magnify the text of a book kept under
 this phone like hand held magnifyer?

 On 10/3/12, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had used Micromax Funbook for some time, not extensively though.

 I used Talkback on it with Android 4.0.

 I have recently, the couple of days back, bought Karbonn A18 with
 again Android 4.0.

 I haven't use it properly, as the Talkback is not preinstalled here
 unlike my Funbook. However, for limited use, I was given few tricks
 by my friends in office.

 Hi Ekinath, I found in my friend's phone there is an inbuilt
 application called Touchexplore, which is an accessability app which
 helps better navigate the VIs on the screen.

 Would seek help from time to time from all of you and update
 whenever I find something intresting while exploring.

 Thanks and warm regards,

 Rahul.

 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing
 again.

 I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again
 which is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not
 eyes free.

 Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
 Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
 activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

 Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
 accessibility is part of iPhone's integral plan.

 The navigation was not smooth on android.
 Note, I have not used high versions of android..

 Thanks and pardon typos



 On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out
 installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much
 longer than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am
 looking at a high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and
 Iphone.  I would like some advice on this topic from those who
 are using either systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or
 almost fully accessible out of the box but I would like to have
 some more knowledge on Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the
 issue since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know
 that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and
 the internet is full of comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India
 iPhone
 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps

[AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Prashant Ranjan Verma]

Hello,
I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that along
with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is full of
comparisons.
I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5 will
arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps application is
not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone. 
In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a part
of my professional work. 

With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has become
accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on the
phone although several things take much more time as compared to a phone
with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I am
eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible to
do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms with
the voice recognition  app. 

This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge makes
the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful. They
convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition to
the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
extra expenditure on a big screen. 


Time permitting I will write more on this. 

Prashant 



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Friends,

I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
Android.

Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

I look forward to good discussion.

With regards,

Ketan

On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful. They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ekinath Khedekar]

I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out installing ey

On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful. They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ekinath Khedekar]

On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

[Ekinath Khedekar]

Sorry some weir thing was happening in the message box, so typing again.

I have used low version of android of 2.3 on Samsung duo again which
is not the best of phones from Samsung with talk back but not eyes
free.

Point is in iPhone experience was magical as the response of Voice
Over was instant and systematic, because the item would not get
activated by just touching once, I had to tab twice.

Also in I think experience on Iphone is brilliant because
accessibility is part of iPhone’s integral plan.

The navigation was not smooth on android.
Note, I have not used high versions of android..

Thanks and pardon typos



On 10/3/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used talk back on 2.3 android Samsung duo i think with out installing ey

 On 10/3/12, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 I am now planning to buy a new phone (although my E72 is in good
 health).  The reason for my purchase is that I realize that the
 learning curve with any touch screen phone is going to be much longer
 than that with keyboard.  I am totally blind and am looking at a
 high-ended phone.  I can choose between Android and Iphone.  I would
 like some advice on this topic from those who are using either
 systems.  I am aware that Iphone is fully or almost fully accessible
 out of the box but I would like to have some more knowledge on
 Android.

 Games on mobile phones are a totally neglected area for the blind
 whereas that is one area that sighted people tend to enjoy.

 I hope the list will be abuzz with interesting discussion on the issue
 since the more we discuss it will help many more friends.

 I look forward to good discussion.

 With regards,

 Ketan

 On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will know that
 along
 with iPhone it is touted as the best smart phone and the internet is
 full
 of
 comparisons.
 I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in India iPhone 5
 will
 arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
 application
 is
 not likely to work in India until further few months on the iPhone.
 In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on android as a
 part
 of my professional work.

 With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this phone has
 become
 accessible. Despite no physical keys it is possible to do everything on
 the
 phone although several things take much more time as compared to a phone
 with full keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
 am
 eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it will be
 possible
 to
 do more with voice. Even now I am able to search contacts and send sms
 with
 the voice recognition  app.

 This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The fantastic big
 screen with the option of increasing the font size to large or huge
 makes
 the screen readable. The digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
 They
 convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious competition
 to
 the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 K and beyond. I won't
 recommend this to a totally blind person yet. It will be an unnecessary
 extra expenditure on a big screen.


 Time permitting I will write more on this.

 Prashant



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