Re: 3570-B11 - I've gota be doing something wrong

2002-04-25 Thread Mahesh Prasad

Hello Jack,

First confirm that your 3570-B11 library is not set at 'Manual' mode. Put
it to 'Automatic' or 'Random' if you want your NT system to have a control
on the library.

Then, set the library configuration to 'Base', if you want to use both
drives as a single library. Now it is set at 'Split' configuration.

Both the setting can be changed from the 'operator panel' in front of the
library assembly.

Regards,

Mahesh Prasad
DCM Data Systems Limited
New Delhi, India




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I have a 'hand me down' 3570-B11, 2 drives, 20 slots, hanging off of an
NT 4 system running TSM 4.1.3.  This unit was previously being used on
an AS400 within this company.

I found 3 sets of drivers for NT on the IBM site, and I downloaded them.
The only one that came near working is IBM Device Drivers 1.1.7.5
for the Magstar.

Now my issues:

1) Is there some special option on the 3570 I need to use it with NT?

2) The system sees the drives, and the library.  But it will not write
on the tapes, or load tapes into the tape drives.

3) The library appears as a 'split' library, with 10 tapes allocated to
each
of
the two tape drives, not like a shared library.  I would like to use it
as a single library with 12 slots.

4) The library has a bar code reader in it, but the drivers in NT don't
seem
to recognize it.

... These are my troubles.  Any suggestions? .. Thanks ... Jack



Re: expiring object

2002-04-25 Thread Regelin Michael (CHA)

Ok thanks.

How then should I write my dsm.opt file when doing an Incremental backup
with Archive Client knowing that TDP will allready backup the *.nsf and
*.ntf files ?

Should I put an exclude like this in the dsm.opt of the archive client:

exclude *:\...\*.n?f


And should I consider backuping other lotus file, like the notes.ini or
other files ?

thanks

Mike



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 By the way, do you know what will happend if to backup trigger the same
file
 and the two backup have different Management Class. Does the two of them
 apply to determine the expiration delay or is only one applying the
 expiration ?

Mike,

Each of the two objects is treated by the
TSM Server as its own object. The TSM Server
does not know about the relationship between
the two objects. The client only knows.
If the TSM Server has expired one of the two,
the backup is no longer valid and TDP for Domino
will not show that as a valid backup.

Thanks,

Del



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Re: Consolidating TSM servers.

2002-04-25 Thread Reinhard Mersch

There is no way (AFAIK), to export/import the database information
only, without exporting/importing the data. 

This is a major deficiency of TSM, which not only occurs when
consolidating TSM servers, but also when consolidating TSM clients:
When transfering a huge filespace from one client to another, you
essentially run into the same problem, even if the TSM server remains
the same. 

The ability to export/import the database information for 
- the whole TSM server
- a specific client
- a specific filespace of a specific node
without exporting/importing the data itself, would help.

Reinhard

Daniel Sparrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 Hi

 The problem isn't moving only one TSM server, but consolidating two TSM
 servers into one.

 I have no problems moving the first TSM server(ADSM1) to the new hardware.
 However, I want to migrate the second TSM server(ADSM2) to the new
 hardware/TSM server(TSM1). There are two choices for doing this, either
 exporting all nodes using export node option. This will generate alot of
 tapes, as the smallest ADSM server has 200 nodes, 1500 tapes and a total
 storage of 30TB. However, I can choose not to export the copypools, which
 would make it about 15TB of data and 750 tapes.

 The other option is to do a export server. This command has a filedata=
 feature, and what I would like to do is to do a export server
 filedata=none, and then import this information into the new TSM server.
 The new TSM server will have access through ACSLS/3494 CU to all existing
 volumes from both old ADSM servers. Therefore, I wouldn't have to export
 all the filedata, only definitions.

 My question is, is it possible to do a export server filedata=none, and
 then import this information into the new server, connect both the 3494
 and the STK9310 to the new server, and use the old volumes that contains
 data and already exists in the 3494/STK9310.

 This would save me 3-4 days, because that is what it would take to move
 15TB of data from the 3494 to the 9310 using import/export commands.

 Or, do I have to do export/import of all filedata, because doing
 filedata=none, will only import node definitions, and not storage volume
 definitions?

 Best Regards

 Daniel Sparrman
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 If you stay on the same platform-OS, all you need to do is shutdown (old
 server) after a final DB backup, move the HW connections to the new
 server, restore DB, and you're finished.  Remember to copy the dsmserv.dsk
 (filesystems for all TSM server files -- db, log, disk pool vols, logical
 volumes, path-names), as well as volhist, devcfg and dsmserv.opt;
 move/re-org filesystems *after* the move.  Many other posts confirm this
 approach, have personally done it on AIX since v2 days.

 Regards,

 Don France
 Technical Architect - Tivoli Certified Consultant

 Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E.)
 San Jose, CA
 (408) 257-3037
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   Hi

   Anybody out there know if it's possible to do a export server, without
 having to export all filedata, and then do a import and use the existing
 tapes.

   We have one STK 9310 and one IBM 3494. Each TSM server has a copypool
 and a primary tape pool in the different libraries. All equipment is SAN
 connected, so if I could first do a DB backup/restore to the new machine
 of one of the TSM servers, and then export everything except for the file
 data from the second TSM server to the new machine, it would be perfect.

   Doing a export server filedata=all, would create about 1500 new tapes,
 according to a export server preview=yes (about 31TB of data) and this
 would probbaly not work at all.

   So, anybody done this before?

   Best Regards

   Daniel Sparrman


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Re: Consolidating TSM servers.

2002-04-25 Thread Daniel Sparrman

Hi

The problem isn't moving only one TSM server, but consolidating two TSM 
servers into one.

I have no problems moving the first TSM server(ADSM1) to the new hardware. 
However, I want to migrate the second TSM server(ADSM2) to the new 
hardware/TSM server(TSM1). There are two choices for doing this, either 
exporting all nodes using export node option. This will generate alot of 
tapes, as the smallest ADSM server has 200 nodes, 1500 tapes and a total 
storage of 30TB. However, I can choose not to export the copypools, which 
would make it about 15TB of data and 750 tapes.

The other option is to do a export server. This command has a filedata= 
feature, and what I would like to do is to do a export server 
filedata=none, and then import this information into the new TSM server. 
The new TSM server will have access through ACSLS/3494 CU to all existing 
volumes from both old ADSM servers. Therefore, I wouldn't have to export 
all the filedata, only definitions.

My question is, is it possible to do a export server filedata=none, and 
then import this information into the new server, connect both the 3494 
and the STK9310 to the new server, and use the old volumes that contains 
data and already exists in the 3494/STK9310.

This would save me 3-4 days, because that is what it would take to move 
15TB of data from the 3494 to the 9310 using import/export commands.

Or, do I have to do export/import of all filedata, because doing 
filedata=none, will only import node definitions, and not storage volume 
definitions?

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
---
Daniel Sparrman
Exist i Stockholm AB
Propellervägen 6B
183 62 HÄGERNÄS
Växel: 08 - 754 98 00
Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51




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If you stay on the same platform-OS, all you need to do is shutdown (old 
server) after a final DB backup, move the HW connections to the new 
server, restore DB, and you're finished.  Remember to copy the dsmserv.dsk 
(filesystems for all TSM server files -- db, log, disk pool vols, logical 
volumes, path-names), as well as volhist, devcfg and dsmserv.opt; 
move/re-org filesystems *after* the move.  Many other posts confirm this 
approach, have personally done it on AIX since v2 days.

Regards,

Don France 
Technical Architect - Tivoli Certified Consultant

Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E.) 
San Jose, CA 
(408) 257-3037 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Sparrman 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:59 PM
  Subject: Consolidating TSM servers.


  Hi

  Anybody out there know if it's possible to do a export server, without 
having to export all filedata, and then do a import and use the existing 
tapes.

  We have one STK 9310 and one IBM 3494. Each TSM server has a copypool 
and a primary tape pool in the different libraries. All equipment is SAN 
connected, so if I could first do a DB backup/restore to the new machine 
of one of the TSM servers, and then export everything except for the file 
data from the second TSM server to the new machine, it would be perfect.

  Doing a export server filedata=all, would create about 1500 new tapes, 
according to a export server preview=yes (about 31TB of data) and this 
would probbaly not work at all.

  So, anybody done this before?

  Best Regards

  Daniel Sparrman


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  Exist i Stockholm AB
  Propellervägen 6B
  183 62 HÄGERNÄS
  Växel: 08 - 754 98 00
  Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51



Re: Has anybody else seen anything like this ?

2002-04-25 Thread Remco Post

I guess we al know TSM F***s up the math big time. I have seen percetages of
over 150% for pct idle/comm/mediaw in q node output

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:42:49 -0500
Bill Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also, look at aggregate transfer rate: 43 GB/Sec is pretty good.

 _
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 Senior Consultant
 Solution Technology, Inc





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 Process starts with session # 51170 @ 10:35 and finishes @ 14:28. But it
 reports 201 hours in elapsed time. I have looked at the logs for the last
 two weeks and have not seen anything like this.
 TSM Client 4.2.1.26
 NT 4.0 SP5

 04/22/02 10:35:17 ANR0406I Session 51170 started for node NODE1 (WinNT)
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4952I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects inspected: 539
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4953I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects archived: 525
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4958I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects updated: 0
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4960I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects rebound: 0
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4957I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects deleted: 481
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4970I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects expired: 0
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4959I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects failed: 0
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4961I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 bytes transferred: 113.79 GB
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4963I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Data transfer
 time:
 11,558.91 sec
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4966I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Network data
 transfer rate: 10,323.13 KB/sec
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4967I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Aggregate data
 transfer rate: 42,949,643.92 KB/sec
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4968I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Objects
 compressed
 by: 0%
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4964I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Elapsed
 processing
 time: 201:18:58
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANR0403I Session 51170 ended for node NODE1 (WinNT).


 Duane Ochs
 Systems Administration
 Quad/Graphics Inc.
 414.566.2375


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Re: 3570-B11 - I've gota be doing something wrong

2002-04-25 Thread Anthony Wong

IBM 3570 library  need to set to base mode and RANDOM access mode in
order for TSM server to use the barcode reader and library robotic arm to
move tape around.



Looking at the library from the front angle. the drive on the rear right is
Drive 1 with element 16 , the drive on the rear left is Drive 2 with
element 17
the slot 31 is the import/export slot


Before config 3570 in TSM server , bring up TSM utility and go to device
list

make sure adsmcsci.sys is loaded, if not loaded, you may see //./tape? for
all 3570 library or drives

when define automated drive for 3570  in TSM server  , make sure device
name look like mt?.?.?.? instead of //./tape?




3570 library  on AIX TSM server requires to use  device driver Atape.
but..
3570 library  on NT requires to use ONLY tsm device driver
adsmcsci.sys(come with server )  to control the 3570 library . It means you
do not need to download additional devices driver from IBM for TSM server
operation unless you need to use 3570 for others non-tsm server operation
or TSM restore backupset from local.


PS: Jack: Please read additional e-mail from me which include step by step
screen shot for setuping up 3570 on NT , thanks




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I have a 'hand me down' 3570-B11, 2 drives, 20 slots, hanging off of an
NT 4 system running TSM 4.1.3.  This unit was previously being used on
an AS400 within this company.

I found 3 sets of drivers for NT on the IBM site, and I downloaded them.
The only one that came near working is IBM Device Drivers 1.1.7.5
for the Magstar.

Now my issues:

1) Is there some special option on the 3570 I need to use it with NT?

2) The system sees the drives, and the library.  But it will not write
on the tapes, or load tapes into the tape drives.

3) The library appears as a 'split' library, with 10 tapes allocated to
each
of
the two tape drives, not like a shared library.  I would like to use it
as a single library with 12 slots.

4) The library has a bar code reader in it, but the drivers in NT don't
seem
to recognize it.

... These are my troubles.  Any suggestions? .. Thanks ... Jack



Re: 3583 with San Data Gateway

2002-04-25 Thread Anthony Wong

Hmm, may be I was wrong,  I will contact  TSM device support team to get
the latest status of LTO drive and library requirement on TSM V4 and V5.




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They show up a GEN_DRIVE where? The TSMSCSI devices screen on the MMC
console? OR when you DEF DRIVE them to TSM? There was an issue with the
TSMSCSI driver not recognizing the drives as LTO, but they define correctly
to TSM. You can also issue 'SHOW LIBRARY' in an admin session to display
the
device capabilities and such. I use this to make sure that TSM is
communicating with the drives/library.

Maybe the TSM Device Driver in the 4.2.2.0 maintenance level has the 'fix'.
We got a special release from developement back in January when I did a
client install on W2K and LTO.

 Bill

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Thats correct Bill

The drives show up as follows:

GEN_DRIVE \\Tape0
GEN_DRIVE \\Tape1

I am going on site again tomorrow to try and make some sense of it.

It still concerns me that the windows device manager says that the SDG is
probably not working correctly. I am not sure whether I should just accept
that as normal as someone suggested.

Based on my findings tomorrow, I will post the symptoms is much more
detail.

Rgds
John

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 I believe you're wrong. the \\.\Tapex means it is using a native Windows
 device driver and not the TSM SCSI device driver. Which is what he stated
in
 the original email. He's using the IBM LTO device drivers, which is what
the
 Admin book recommends. The Library itself will be managed with the
TSMSCSI
 driver, but the drives use the IBM LTO device driver and show up and
 \\.\Tapex. If you were using the TSMSCSI driver the drives would be
 MTx.x.x.x format.

 Bill Boyer
 DSS, Inc.

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 Console as \\.\TapeX where X is a number.

 \\.\TapeX is a generic device driver

 As mention before, using generic device driver is not supported with TSM
 server on NTx. Since testing all available generic device drivers is time
 consuming and testing teams are no way to test all up-to-date generic
 device drivers against TSM server on NTx.

 IF customers need to use generic drvice driver for any reasons (RSM),use
 Microsoft OS certified device driver from the latest service pack. If
 Microsoft does not provide device driver for the deivce, try download
 latest certified device driver form the vender website.



 TSM testing team never use generic device against TSM with the following
 exception:

 1.  Restore backupset from local attached tape driver/libraries or SDG
 attached tape drive/libraries




 For more information about RSM ,
 http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/devices/magstar.html#magscsi




  The following environments are not presently supported:
Removable Storage Manager (RSM) - controlled libraries on Windows
2000
IBM Ultrium devices when library is controlled by RSM on Windows
2000






 Again, not presently supported does not means it will not work.





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 With the 3583 and TSM on Win2k, the drives use the IBM device driver
 located
 at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Win2000/
 Once you've installed the driver and configured the drives to use this
 driver, you should be able to see the drives under the TSM Management
 Console as \\.\TapeX where X is a number.

 The library part can either be controlled by the Windows RSM or by the
TSM
 device driver.

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Re: expiring object

2002-04-25 Thread Bill Smoldt

Mike,

I wouldn't do it that way.  A search on my laptop shows some NIF and NTF
extensions.  There may be others on a server.  Instead, use

exclude *.nsf
exclude *.ntf

Bill SmoldtSSSI
STORServer, Inc.


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Ok thanks.

How then should I write my dsm.opt file when doing an Incremental backup
with Archive Client knowing that TDP will allready backup the *.nsf and
*.ntf files ?

Should I put an exclude like this in the dsm.opt of the archive client:

exclude *:\...\*.n?f


And should I consider backuping other lotus file, like the notes.ini or
other files ?

thanks

Mike



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Objet : Re: expiring object


 By the way, do you know what will happend if to backup trigger the same
file
 and the two backup have different Management Class. Does the two of them
 apply to determine the expiration delay or is only one applying the
 expiration ?

Mike,

Each of the two objects is treated by the
TSM Server as its own object. The TSM Server
does not know about the relationship between
the two objects. The client only knows.
If the TSM Server has expired one of the two,
the backup is no longer valid and TDP for Domino
will not show that as a valid backup.

Thanks,

Del



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Re: Consolidating TSM servers.

2002-04-25 Thread Bill Smoldt

Daniel,

No, I don't believe there is any way to accomplish your specific request.  I
know of no supported method to move the file and volume metadata from one
TSM instance into another without also moving the data.

If your goal is to get to a single hardware platform, you can create a
second instance of TSM on the new machine and leave the old data on the
3494.

I expect, however, that your goal is to get all the clients into  a single
instance of TSM?  If so, I believe you will have to move the files.

Using the second instance will allow you to retire the old machine quickly,
if that is important.  But it's pay me now or pay me later.

Bill SmoldtSSSI
STORServer, Inc.

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Daniel Sparrman
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Consolidating TSM servers.


Hi

The problem isn't moving only one TSM server, but consolidating two TSM
servers into one.

I have no problems moving the first TSM server(ADSM1) to the new hardware.
However, I want to migrate the second TSM server(ADSM2) to the new
hardware/TSM server(TSM1). There are two choices for doing this, either
exporting all nodes using export node option. This will generate alot of
tapes, as the smallest ADSM server has 200 nodes, 1500 tapes and a total
storage of 30TB. However, I can choose not to export the copypools, which
would make it about 15TB of data and 750 tapes.

The other option is to do a export server. This command has a filedata=
feature, and what I would like to do is to do a export server
filedata=none, and then import this information into the new TSM server.
The new TSM server will have access through ACSLS/3494 CU to all existing
volumes from both old ADSM servers. Therefore, I wouldn't have to export
all the filedata, only definitions.

My question is, is it possible to do a export server filedata=none, and
then import this information into the new server, connect both the 3494
and the STK9310 to the new server, and use the old volumes that contains
data and already exists in the 3494/STK9310.

This would save me 3-4 days, because that is what it would take to move
15TB of data from the 3494 to the 9310 using import/export commands.

Or, do I have to do export/import of all filedata, because doing
filedata=none, will only import node definitions, and not storage volume
definitions?

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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Don France (TSMnews) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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2002-04-23 08:45
Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager


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cc:
Subject:Re: Consolidating TSM servers.


If you stay on the same platform-OS, all you need to do is shutdown (old
server) after a final DB backup, move the HW connections to the new
server, restore DB, and you're finished.  Remember to copy the dsmserv.dsk
(filesystems for all TSM server files -- db, log, disk pool vols, logical
volumes, path-names), as well as volhist, devcfg and dsmserv.opt;
move/re-org filesystems *after* the move.  Many other posts confirm this
approach, have personally done it on AIX since v2 days.

Regards,

Don France
Technical Architect - Tivoli Certified Consultant

Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E.)
San Jose, CA
(408) 257-3037
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  - Original Message -
  From: Daniel Sparrman
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  Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:59 PM
  Subject: Consolidating TSM servers.


  Hi

  Anybody out there know if it's possible to do a export server, without
having to export all filedata, and then do a import and use the existing
tapes.

  We have one STK 9310 and one IBM 3494. Each TSM server has a copypool
and a primary tape pool in the different libraries. All equipment is SAN
connected, so if I could first do a DB backup/restore to the new machine
of one of the TSM servers, and then export everything except for the file
data from the second TSM server to the new machine, it would be perfect.

  Doing a export server filedata=all, would create about 1500 new tapes,
according to a export server preview=yes (about 31TB of data) and this
would probbaly not work at all.

  So, anybody done this before?

  Best Regards

  Daniel Sparrman


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  183 62 HDGERNDS
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Re: TSM DB detailed description

2002-04-25 Thread Wieslaw Markowiak/Kra/ComputerLand/PL

Hi Dirk,
I could use your pdf also. Pls be so kind and send it to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks - Wieslaw



Re: expiring object

2002-04-25 Thread Regelin Michael (CHA)

you're right. thank's

Am I not forced to use the \...\ parameter to look all the arborescence ?



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À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: expiring object


Mike,

I wouldn't do it that way.  A search on my laptop shows some NIF and NTF
extensions.  There may be others on a server.  Instead, use

exclude *.nsf
exclude *.ntf

Bill SmoldtSSSI
STORServer, Inc.


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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Regelin Michael (CHA)
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: expiring object


Ok thanks.

How then should I write my dsm.opt file when doing an Incremental backup
with Archive Client knowing that TDP will allready backup the *.nsf and
*.ntf files ?

Should I put an exclude like this in the dsm.opt of the archive client:

exclude *:\...\*.n?f


And should I consider backuping other lotus file, like the notes.ini or
other files ?

thanks

Mike



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De : Del Hoobler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoye : mercredi, 24. avril 2002 14:59
A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: expiring object


 By the way, do you know what will happend if to backup trigger the same
file
 and the two backup have different Management Class. Does the two of them
 apply to determine the expiration delay or is only one applying the
 expiration ?

Mike,

Each of the two objects is treated by the
TSM Server as its own object. The TSM Server
does not know about the relationship between
the two objects. The client only knows.
If the TSM Server has expired one of the two,
the backup is no longer valid and TDP for Domino
will not show that as a valid backup.

Thanks,

Del



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Re: expiring object

2002-04-25 Thread Regelin Michael (CHA)

I found the solution:
The directory separator character limits the scope of the search for the
matching n characters and directories. If a pattern does not begin with a
directory separator (or one does not follow the drive specification), a
match all directories is appended to the pattern. For example, these
patterns are equivalent: 
   c:*
   c:\...\*

Sincerly,





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-Message d'origine-
De : Bill Smoldt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : jeudi, 25. avril 2002 12:56
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: expiring object


Mike,

I wouldn't do it that way.  A search on my laptop shows some NIF and NTF
extensions.  There may be others on a server.  Instead, use

exclude *.nsf
exclude *.ntf

Bill SmoldtSSSI
STORServer, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Regelin Michael (CHA)
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: expiring object


Ok thanks.

How then should I write my dsm.opt file when doing an Incremental backup
with Archive Client knowing that TDP will allready backup the *.nsf and
*.ntf files ?

Should I put an exclude like this in the dsm.opt of the archive client:

exclude *:\...\*.n?f


And should I consider backuping other lotus file, like the notes.ini or
other files ?

thanks

Mike



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-Message d'origine-
De : Del Hoobler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoye : mercredi, 24. avril 2002 14:59
A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: expiring object


 By the way, do you know what will happend if to backup trigger the same
file
 and the two backup have different Management Class. Does the two of them
 apply to determine the expiration delay or is only one applying the
 expiration ?

Mike,

Each of the two objects is treated by the
TSM Server as its own object. The TSM Server
does not know about the relationship between
the two objects. The client only knows.
If the TSM Server has expired one of the two,
the backup is no longer valid and TDP for Domino
will not show that as a valid backup.

Thanks,

Del



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IBM Corporation
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- Smile a lot: it costs nothing and is beyond price.



Re: expiring object

2002-04-25 Thread Bill Smoldt

In earlier versions of TSM, you did have to use the drive designation (or
wildcard) and directory ... wildcard, but not in later versions.  I don't
remember where the changes occurred.

Bill SmoldtSSSI
STORServer, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Regelin Michael (CHA)
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: expiring object


you're right. thank's

Am I not forced to use the \...\ parameter to look all the arborescence ?



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-Message d'origine-
De : Bill Smoldt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyi : jeudi, 25. avril 2002 12:56
@ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: expiring object


Mike,

I wouldn't do it that way.  A search on my laptop shows some NIF and NTF
extensions.  There may be others on a server.  Instead, use

exclude *.nsf
exclude *.ntf

Bill SmoldtSSSI
STORServer, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Regelin Michael (CHA)
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: expiring object


Ok thanks.

How then should I write my dsm.opt file when doing an Incremental backup
with Archive Client knowing that TDP will allready backup the *.nsf and
*.ntf files ?

Should I put an exclude like this in the dsm.opt of the archive client:

exclude *:\...\*.n?f


And should I consider backuping other lotus file, like the notes.ini or
other files ?

thanks

Mike



___
 Michael REGELIN
 Ingenieur Informatique - O.S.O.
 Groupware  Messagerie
 Centre des Technologies de l'Information (CTI)
 Route des Acacias 82
 CP149 - 1211 Geneve 8
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-Message d'origine-
De : Del Hoobler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoye : mercredi, 24. avril 2002 14:59
A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: expiring object


 By the way, do you know what will happend if to backup trigger the same
file
 and the two backup have different Management Class. Does the two of them
 apply to determine the expiration delay or is only one applying the
 expiration ?

Mike,

Each of the two objects is treated by the
TSM Server as its own object. The TSM Server
does not know about the relationship between
the two objects. The client only knows.
If the TSM Server has expired one of the two,
the backup is no longer valid and TDP for Domino
will not show that as a valid backup.

Thanks,

Del



Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Leave everything a little better than you found it.
- Smile a lot: it costs nothing and is beyond price.



Re: TSM Database Location

2002-04-25 Thread Davidson, Becky

Ilja
We have some of our database volumes on the shark and I still mirror my db
volumes. You mirror not only to protect from disk errors but also to protect
from corruption.  I believe that there was a discussion recently of someone
who had a corrupted database volume.  A shark will not protect you from that
becky

-Original Message-
From: Ilja G. Coolen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Database Location


Well Jonathan,

This is how we do it.
We are running on an AIX box for starters.
We have our 4 DB volumes on an separate filesystem. This is about 40GB in
total having 20 GB extendable. We do not mirror the DB volumes, because the
ESS provides all the redundancy we could need. No pain in case of disk
crashes. No management burden. Leaves more resources to TSM. Our database
has a 50% mutation daily, but we manage to keep up a 98% to 99% cache hit
ratio. This high mutation level made us decide to do a full DB backup twice
a day. We also do a daily reset of all the utilization values.

All our disk storage pool volumes also are on the same ESS, but in different
filesystems. These total to about 900 GB.

We have 2 fibre channel connections directly attached to the ESS. No SAN
yet. Both FC connections are based on redundancy and load-balancing using
IBM's subsystem device driver (shipped with the ESS). The ESS disks look the
same as local disks to an AIX box, so we simply put the ESS disks in AIX
volume groups/logical volumes/file systems.

Assumingin you know something about the ESS:
Inside the ESS whe have defined our 4 (DB) disks on 4 different loops (2
ranks or 8 packs) so we have 2 hot-spare disks available for each DB volume.
This also provides the best possible performance.


So Jonathan. Put your primary DB volumes on an ESS, and you don't need any
mirrors.
Let us know what you decide to do. Have fun.

greetings,

Ilja Coolen.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: woensdag 24 april 2002 17:03
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: TSM Database Location


On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Ilja G. Coolen wrote:

 Hi,

 I'd suggest to move it to it's own filesystem placed on an redundant disk
 array, enjoying high performance and recoverability.
 We placed our database volumes on an ESS subsystem. Where you place it is
 your own choice. Just try to achieve redundancy.

Did you put all primary/copy db volumes on the ESS? What kind of db cache
hit are you getting? How are you talking to the ESS and how much other
stuff is talking to the ESS while TSM is running? I am considering using
the 2nd/3rd copy of the db for DRM purposes on an ESS.



 Have fun.



 Ilja G. Coolen


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 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Brenda Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: woensdag 24 april 2002 13:37
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp: TSM Database Location


 We are just setting up a new TSM server.  It appears to load the default
 database under /opt/tivoli/tsm/server/bin.  Is it common practice to leave
 it there or to move it to it's own separate location? Any recommendations?

 Thanks,
 Brenda


Jonathan Siegle Center for Academic Computing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penn State University
814-865-5840University Park, Pa 16802



Re: Has anybody else seen anything like this ?

2002-04-25 Thread Miles Purdy

There is _no_ mistake in the math. There are (most likely) multiple streams going on. 
I have asked about this before and think I have it straighten out.

Look at the aggregate and network rates. You probably have 4 streams at 10 MB/s each, 
for a total of 40 MB/s.

Try using 'run q_ses_stats' (and q ses) during the backup. It will show any multiple 
streams. Look in the SUMMARY table to see the stats after the backup has run.

This behavior is consistent with what I see for a small number (535) of large files 
(in 113 GB). Here's a good example where the aggregate exceeds the network:

04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4952I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Total number of  
objects inspected:   81,678  
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4954I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Total number of  
objects backed up:  665  
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4958I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Total number of  
objects updated:  0  
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4960I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Total number of  
objects rebound:  0  
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4957I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Total number of  
objects deleted:  0  
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4970I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Total number of  
objects expired:558  
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4959I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Total number of  
objects failed:   0  
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4961I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Total number of  
bytes transferred:54.93 GB   
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4963I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Data transfer time:   
3,067.39 sec   
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4966I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Network data
transfer rate:18,780.88 KB/sec   
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4967I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Aggregate data   
transfer rate:  27,531.04 KB/sec 
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4968I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Objects compressed  
 by:0%
04/25/02   03:19:55  ANE4964I (Session: 1994, Node: UNXR)  Elapsed processing 
time:00:34:52

Miles


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25-Apr-02 5:11:07 AM 
I guess we al know TSM F***s up the math big time. I have seen percetages of
over 150% for pct idle/comm/mediaw in q node output

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:42:49 -0500
Bill Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also, look at aggregate transfer rate: 43 GB/Sec is pretty good.

 _
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 Senior Consultant
 Solution Technology, Inc





 Ochs, Duane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 04/24/2002 03:19 PM
 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager


 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 cc:
 Subject:Has anybody else seen anything like this ?


 Process starts with session # 51170 @ 10:35 and finishes @ 14:28. But it
 reports 201 hours in elapsed time. I have looked at the logs for the last
 two weeks and have not seen anything like this.
 TSM Client 4.2.1.26
 NT 4.0 SP5

 04/22/02 10:35:17 ANR0406I Session 51170 started for node NODE1 (WinNT)
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4952I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects inspected: 539
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4953I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects archived: 525
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4958I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects updated: 0
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4960I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects rebound: 0
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4957I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects deleted: 481
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4970I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects expired: 0
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4959I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 objects failed: 0
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4961I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Total number of
 bytes transferred: 113.79 GB
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4963I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Data transfer
 time:
 11,558.91 sec
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4966I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Network data
 transfer rate: 10,323.13 KB/sec
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4967I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Aggregate data
 transfer rate: 42,949,643.92 KB/sec
 04/22/02 14:28:47 ANE4968I (Session: 51170, Node: NODE1) Objects
 compressed
 

Re: TSM Database Location

2002-04-25 Thread Ilja G. Coolen

Hello Becky

Your are right Becky. Of course the shark doesn't protect me from
corruption, but our database backups do make it possible to recover from a
corruption. We are considering your advice though. It's not a bad idea to
protect yourself from corruption. Protecting yourself for disk failures
alone is only half the job.

We'll get back on that.



Ilja G. Coolen


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-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Davidson, Becky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: donderdag 25 april 2002 15:52
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: TSM Database Location


Ilja
We have some of our database volumes on the shark and I still mirror my db
volumes. You mirror not only to protect from disk errors but also to protect
from corruption.  I believe that there was a discussion recently of someone
who had a corrupted database volume.  A shark will not protect you from that
becky

-Original Message-
From: Ilja G. Coolen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Database Location


Well Jonathan,

This is how we do it.
We are running on an AIX box for starters.
We have our 4 DB volumes on an separate filesystem. This is about 40GB in
total having 20 GB extendable. We do not mirror the DB volumes, because the
ESS provides all the redundancy we could need. No pain in case of disk
crashes. No management burden. Leaves more resources to TSM. Our database
has a 50% mutation daily, but we manage to keep up a 98% to 99% cache hit
ratio. This high mutation level made us decide to do a full DB backup twice
a day. We also do a daily reset of all the utilization values.

All our disk storage pool volumes also are on the same ESS, but in different
filesystems. These total to about 900 GB.

We have 2 fibre channel connections directly attached to the ESS. No SAN
yet. Both FC connections are based on redundancy and load-balancing using
IBM's subsystem device driver (shipped with the ESS). The ESS disks look the
same as local disks to an AIX box, so we simply put the ESS disks in AIX
volume groups/logical volumes/file systems.

Assumingin you know something about the ESS:
Inside the ESS whe have defined our 4 (DB) disks on 4 different loops (2
ranks or 8 packs) so we have 2 hot-spare disks available for each DB volume.
This also provides the best possible performance.


So Jonathan. Put your primary DB volumes on an ESS, and you don't need any
mirrors.
Let us know what you decide to do. Have fun.

greetings,

Ilja Coolen.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: woensdag 24 april 2002 17:03
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: TSM Database Location


On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Ilja G. Coolen wrote:

 Hi,

 I'd suggest to move it to it's own filesystem placed on an redundant disk
 array, enjoying high performance and recoverability.
 We placed our database volumes on an ESS subsystem. Where you place it is
 your own choice. Just try to achieve redundancy.

Did you put all primary/copy db volumes on the ESS? What kind of db cache
hit are you getting? How are you talking to the ESS and how much other
stuff is talking to the ESS while TSM is running? I am considering using
the 2nd/3rd copy of the db for DRM purposes on an ESS.



 Have fun.



 Ilja G. Coolen


   _

 ABP / USZO
 CIS / BS / TB / Storage Management
 Telefoon : +31(0)45  579 7938
 Fax  : +31(0)45  579 3990
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Intranet
 : Storage Web
 http://intranet/cis_bstb/html_content/sm/index_sm.htm

   _

 - Everybody has a photographic memory, some just don't have film. -


 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Brenda Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: woensdag 24 april 2002 13:37
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp: TSM Database Location


 We are just setting up a new TSM server.  It appears to load the default
 database under /opt/tivoli/tsm/server/bin.  Is it common practice to leave
 it there or to move it to it's own separate location? Any recommendations?

 Thanks,
 Brenda


Jonathan Siegle Center for Academic Computing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penn State University
814-865-5840University Park, Pa 16802



TSM and GEORM

2002-04-25 Thread Rick Saylor

I'm thinking about using GEORM to mirror my TSM database and logs onto
another RS/6000 located at our disaster recovery location. But before I did
this I thought I would see if anyone has done this. If so, I would like to
know what pitfalls are before me? I'm worried that TSM database performance
will suffer. I look forward to any information, good or bad, from anyone
that has tried GEORM with TSM.

Thanks,
Rick

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Senior Systems Programmer  9101 Tuscany Way   Fax:   (512)223-1211
Information Services   Austin, Texas  78754



Update TSM

2002-04-25 Thread Istiak Mahmud

I am working on upgrading tSM 4.1.1.0 to 4.2.1.15. I've aix 4.3.3.0 platform. As I 
understand that I've to upgrade(migrate) to 4.2.1.0 level first and install upto 
4.2.1.15 level. I'd like to know if you have any procedure or experience that can help 
me to accomplish this job. Thankyou.



Install Failure on TSM AIX 4.2.1.11 client-help! 3rd time sent

2002-04-25 Thread Ken Sedlacek

Enviro:

H70 AIX  4.3.3 ML04
TSM server 4.2.1.10
Existing TSM client 3.7.3.0

I am attempting to install the TSM AIX client 4.2.1.11, and am getting the
following unpacking error:

I have re-downloaded the file 2 times now and ftp'd it over to the H70 (ftp
-i etc., then binary).

Can anyone shed some light how I might get around this??


Pre-install tasks for the TSM Backup/Archive Client completed.

Mount volume 2 on /tmp/tsm.client/IP22367.tivoli.tsm.client.ba.aix43.32bit.
Press the Enter key to continue.
0503-700 inurest:  Error in restoring files
0503-037 inurest:  Failure on system call to execute command
/usr/sbin/restbynam
e -S  -xYAqf/tmp/tsm.client/IP22367.tivoli.tsm.client.ba.aix43.32bit -Z
/tmp/inu
tmpDtg97a/sorted.al.
restore: 0511-107 Cannot read from pipe. There is an unpacking error.
restore: 0511-708 There is an internal unpacking error: decode failure



Ken Sedlacek
AIX/TSM/UNIX Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

IBM Certified Specialist: RS/6000 AIX v4.3 Support
IBM Certified Specialist: RS/6000 SP  PSSP 3
Tivoli Certified Consultant - Tivoli Storage Manager v4.1



Re: Update TSM

2002-04-25 Thread Reinhard Mersch

I did something very similar two weeks ago: from TSM 4.1.2 upgrade to
4.2.1 and further to 4.2.1.15.

Two remarks:
-  After installing 4.2.1 from CD, the DRM license certificate (drm.lic)
   was missing. I fetched it from an older 4.2.0 installation.
-  The fileset tivoli.tsm.devices.aix43.rte is still on level 4.2.1.0.
   A newer level of this fileset is contained in fix 4.2.1.13, but not
   in 4.2.1.15. So, if you want to have it, you will have to upgrade to
   4.2.1.13 in between.

You might also consider upgrading to 4.2.2.0, which I did on a different
server on Tuesday (from 4.1.2 via 4.2.1.0 to 4.2.2.0). Besides the
drm.lic issue, it went smoothly.

Istiak Mahmud [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 I am working on upgrading tSM 4.1.1.0 to 4.2.1.15. I've aix 4.3.3.0
 platform. As I understand that I've to upgrade(migrate) to 4.2.1.0 level
 first and install upto 4.2.1.15 level. I'd like to know if you have any
 procedure or experience that can help me to accomplish this job. Thankyou.

--
Reinhard MerschWestfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet
Zentrum fuer Informationsverarbeitung - ehemals Universitaetsrechenzentrum
Roentgenstrasse 9-13, D-48149 Muenster, Germany  Tel: +49(251)83-31583
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Fax: +49(251)83-31653



Re: Update TSM

2002-04-25 Thread Kauffman, Tom

You'll need to install 4.2.0.0 from the install CD first, and then apply the
4.2.1.0 PTF, and then the 4.2.1.15 PTF.

I just moved from 3.7.4 to 4.2.1.13 with no (as of yet) problems.

1) Quiesce TSM
2) Do at least one full database backup (upgrades are one-way) (I did two --
I'm paranoid)
3) Shut down TSM
4) Install 4.2.0.0
5) Update to 4.2.1.0
6) Update to 4.2.1.15
7) probably want to reboot here, if you're using TSM device drivers
8) Start TSM and run through your Q/A process

It took me about 5 hours, including the Q/A.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

 -Original Message-
 From: Istiak Mahmud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 9:13 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Update TSM


 I am working on upgrading tSM 4.1.1.0 to 4.2.1.15. I've aix
 4.3.3.0 platform. As I understand that I've to
 upgrade(migrate) to 4.2.1.0 level first and install upto
 4.2.1.15 level. I'd like to know if you have any procedure or
 experience that can help me to accomplish this job. Thankyou.




4.2.2.0 Problems

2002-04-25 Thread Price, Bob R.

I too, have just upgraded a test Server to 4.2.2.0 (on AIX 4.3).

Noticed two minor problems:
1) The query process of a Move Data command always shows (erroneously) a
very large number of Unreadable Bytes.
2) The help command does not format output correctly.  Seems to be
eliminating CR/LF.


Can anyone confirm these two problems before I open a PMR with IBM?


Bob Price

-Original Message-
From: Reinhard Mersch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Update TSM


I did something very similar two weeks ago: from TSM 4.1.2 upgrade to
4.2.1 and further to 4.2.1.15.

Two remarks:
-  After installing 4.2.1 from CD, the DRM license certificate (drm.lic)
   was missing. I fetched it from an older 4.2.0 installation.
-  The fileset tivoli.tsm.devices.aix43.rte is still on level 4.2.1.0.
   A newer level of this fileset is contained in fix 4.2.1.13, but not
   in 4.2.1.15. So, if you want to have it, you will have to upgrade to
   4.2.1.13 in between.

You might also consider upgrading to 4.2.2.0, which I did on a different
server on Tuesday (from 4.1.2 via 4.2.1.0 to 4.2.2.0). Besides the
drm.lic issue, it went smoothly.

Istiak Mahmud [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 I am working on upgrading tSM 4.1.1.0 to 4.2.1.15. I've aix 4.3.3.0
 platform. As I understand that I've to upgrade(migrate) to 4.2.1.0 level
 first and install upto 4.2.1.15 level. I'd like to know if you have any
 procedure or experience that can help me to accomplish this job. Thankyou.

--
Reinhard MerschWestfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet
Zentrum fuer Informationsverarbeitung - ehemals Universitaetsrechenzentrum
Roentgenstrasse 9-13, D-48149 Muenster, Germany  Tel: +49(251)83-31583
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Fax: +49(251)83-31653



Re: Install Failure on TSM AIX 4.2.1.11 client-help! 3rd time sent

2002-04-25 Thread Rainer Tammer

Hello,
I can not find a 4.2.1.11 AIX client on the ftp server.

Please post the cksum / sum of the fileset.

I am sure that the

restore -x -f tsm.client/IP22367.tivoli.tsm.client.ba.aix43.32bit

will fail (restore in empty directory).

Bye
  Rainer Tammer


On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:07:35 -0400, Ken Sedlacek wrote:

Enviro:

H70 AIX  4.3.3 ML04
TSM server 4.2.1.10
Existing TSM client 3.7.3.0

I am attempting to install the TSM AIX client 4.2.1.11, and am getting the
following unpacking error:

I have re-downloaded the file 2 times now and ftp'd it over to the H70 (ftp
-i etc., then binary).

Can anyone shed some light how I might get around this??


Pre-install tasks for the TSM Backup/Archive Client completed.

Mount volume 2 on /tmp/tsm.client/IP22367.tivoli.tsm.client.ba.aix43.32bit.
Press the Enter key to continue.
0503-700 inurest:  Error in restoring files
0503-037 inurest:  Failure on system call to execute command
/usr/sbin/restbynam
e -S  -xYAqf/tmp/tsm.client/IP22367.tivoli.tsm.client.ba.aix43.32bit -Z
/tmp/inu
tmpDtg97a/sorted.al.
restore: 0511-107 Cannot read from pipe. There is an unpacking error.
restore: 0511-708 There is an internal unpacking error: decode failure



Ken Sedlacek
AIX/TSM/UNIX Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

IBM Certified Specialist: RS/6000 AIX v4.3 Support
IBM Certified Specialist: RS/6000 SP  PSSP 3
Tivoli Certified Consultant - Tivoli Storage Manager v4.1




Re: 4.2.2.0 Problems

2002-04-25 Thread Istiak Mahmud

Thanks for your reply and it was very helpful. I am looking for a step by step 
instruction which I am trying to compile by myself. I am at the begining stage of my 
installation procedure. I am going to attach my procedure and a question file with 
this reply. I am hoping that I'll get your help on this. Thankyou.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/25/02 11:19AM 
I too, have just upgraded a test Server to 4.2.2.0 (on AIX 4.3).

Noticed two minor problems:
1) The query process of a Move Data command always shows (erroneously) a
very large number of Unreadable Bytes.
2) The help command does not format output correctly.  Seems to be
eliminating CR/LF.


Can anyone confirm these two problems before I open a PMR with IBM?


Bob Price

-Original Message-
From: Reinhard Mersch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Update TSM


I did something very similar two weeks ago: from TSM 4.1.2 upgrade to
4.2.1 and further to 4.2.1.15.

Two remarks:
-  After installing 4.2.1 from CD, the DRM license certificate (drm.lic)
   was missing. I fetched it from an older 4.2.0 installation.
-  The fileset tivoli.tsm.devices.aix43.rte is still on level 4.2.1.0.
   A newer level of this fileset is contained in fix 4.2.1.13, but not
   in 4.2.1.15. So, if you want to have it, you will have to upgrade to
   4.2.1.13 in between.

You might also consider upgrading to 4.2.2.0, which I did on a different
server on Tuesday (from 4.1.2 via 4.2.1.0 to 4.2.2.0). Besides the
drm.lic issue, it went smoothly.

Istiak Mahmud [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 I am working on upgrading tSM 4.1.1.0 to 4.2.1.15. I've aix 4.3.3.0
 platform. As I understand that I've to upgrade(migrate) to 4.2.1.0 level
 first and install upto 4.2.1.15 level. I'd like to know if you have any
 procedure or experience that can help me to accomplish this job. Thankyou.

--
Reinhard MerschWestfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet
Zentrum fuer Informationsverarbeitung - ehemals Universitaetsrechenzentrum
Roentgenstrasse 9-13, D-48149 Muenster, Germany  Tel: +49(251)83-31583
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Fax: +49(251)83-31653



Destroy old MagStar tapes?

2002-04-25 Thread Doug Baker

Hi all. We have replaced our 3575 library with a 3583 LTO. I want to get
rid of the old MagStar MP C-Format XL tapes. The data has been moved
by TSM. But I'd like to ensure that the data is permanently destroyed.
What's the best way to do this for 320 tapes? Are commercial services
required? Thanks for any info!

Doug Baker
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: 4.2.2.0 Problems

2002-04-25 Thread Rolf Meyer

Hello,
I have upgraded from 4.2.1.15 to 4.2.2.0 and noticed a new output of session
query out of the web gui, which changed to q sess f=d making the output
really unuseable for quick overview.

Opened a PMR without success until now.

Rolf Meyer

On Thursday, 25. April 2002 17:19, you wrote:
 I too, have just upgraded a test Server to 4.2.2.0 (on AIX 4.3).

 Noticed two minor problems:
 1) The query process of a Move Data command always shows (erroneously) a
 very large number of Unreadable Bytes.
 2) The help command does not format output correctly.  Seems to be
 eliminating CR/LF.


 Can anyone confirm these two problems before I open a PMR with IBM?


 Bob Price

 -Original Message-
 From: Reinhard Mersch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:59 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Update TSM


 I did something very similar two weeks ago: from TSM 4.1.2 upgrade to
 4.2.1 and further to 4.2.1.15.

 Two remarks:
 -  After installing 4.2.1 from CD, the DRM license certificate (drm.lic)
was missing. I fetched it from an older 4.2.0 installation.
 -  The fileset tivoli.tsm.devices.aix43.rte is still on level 4.2.1.0.
A newer level of this fileset is contained in fix 4.2.1.13, but not
in 4.2.1.15. So, if you want to have it, you will have to upgrade to
4.2.1.13 in between.

 You might also consider upgrading to 4.2.2.0, which I did on a different
 server on Tuesday (from 4.1.2 via 4.2.1.0 to 4.2.2.0). Besides the
 drm.lic issue, it went smoothly.

 Istiak Mahmud [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
  I am working on upgrading tSM 4.1.1.0 to 4.2.1.15. I've aix 4.3.3.0
  platform. As I understand that I've to upgrade(migrate) to 4.2.1.0 level
  first and install upto 4.2.1.15 level. I'd like to know if you have any
  procedure or experience that can help me to accomplish this job.
  Thankyou.



Re: 3583 with San Data Gateway

2002-04-25 Thread Anthony Wong

TSM server patch  4.2.1.15 or 5.1.0.1 adsmscsi.sys START supporting  LTO
library and LTO drive.


Install on NT should be easy and quick ,

However, on W2K , Customer need to  disable Microsoft RSM take control over
the LTO library and LTO drive or TSM server will not work correctly,

I will keep posting  as soon as I find more information or documents
related to this issue.













Tivoli Storage Management Function Verification Test , FVT Automation
Project Lead
Office:408-256-3312 Home:650-757-1661 Cell:415-218-7880 AIM:smartbluewong
Dept Y0LA /Bldg 050-3 / Office 3A64
IBM SSG Division 46


John [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 04/24/2002 11:00:45 AM

Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Thats correct Bill

The drives show up as follows:

GEN_DRIVE \\Tape0
GEN_DRIVE \\Tape1

I am going on site again tomorrow to try and make some sense of it.

It still concerns me that the windows device manager says that the SDG is
probably not working correctly. I am not sure whether I should just accept
that as normal as someone suggested.

Based on my findings tomorrow, I will post the symptoms is much more
detail.

Rgds
John

- Original Message -
From: Bill Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: 3583 with San Data Gateway


 I believe you're wrong. the \\.\Tapex means it is using a native Windows
 device driver and not the TSM SCSI device driver. Which is what he stated
in
 the original email. He's using the IBM LTO device drivers, which is what
the
 Admin book recommends. The Library itself will be managed with the
TSMSCSI
 driver, but the drives use the IBM LTO device driver and show up and
 \\.\Tapex. If you were using the TSMSCSI driver the drives would be
 MTx.x.x.x format.

 Bill Boyer
 DSS, Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Anthony Wong
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 3583 with San Data Gateway


 Console as \\.\TapeX where X is a number.

 \\.\TapeX is a generic device driver

 As mention before, using generic device driver is not supported with TSM
 server on NTx. Since testing all available generic device drivers is time
 consuming and testing teams are no way to test all up-to-date generic
 device drivers against TSM server on NTx.

 IF customers need to use generic drvice driver for any reasons (RSM),use
 Microsoft OS certified device driver from the latest service pack. If
 Microsoft does not provide device driver for the deivce, try download
 latest certified device driver form the vender website.



 TSM testing team never use generic device against TSM with the following
 exception:

 1.  Restore backupset from local attached tape driver/libraries or SDG
 attached tape drive/libraries




 For more information about RSM ,
 http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/devices/magstar.html#magscsi




  The following environments are not presently supported:
Removable Storage Manager (RSM) - controlled libraries on Windows
2000
IBM Ultrium devices when library is controlled by RSM on Windows
2000






 Again, not presently supported does not means it will not work.





 Tivoli Storage Management Function Verification Test , FVT Automation
 Project Lead
 Office:408-256-3312 Home:650-757-1661 Cell:415-218-7880 AIM:smartbluewong
 Dept Y0LA /Bldg 050-3 / Office 3A64
 IBM SSG Division 46


 James Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 04/24/2002 07:38:08
 AM

 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 With the 3583 and TSM on Win2k, the drives use the IBM device driver
 located
 at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Win2000/
 Once you've installed the driver and configured the drives to use this
 driver, you should be able to see the drives under the TSM Management
 Console as \\.\TapeX where X is a number.

 The library part can either be controlled by the Windows RSM or by the
TSM
 device driver.

 James Thompson

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Re: Destroy old MagStar tapes?

2002-04-25 Thread Jim Doll

If you plan to toss them. Use a strong electro magnet Should screw up the
tracking (That's what we did with our old Magstar 3480/90  reel tapes.)
Or what our tape librarian suggested a sledge hammer.   We charged  $1 a
tape on our United Way activity day,   Was a interesting Activity.  (Made
more money then the hole-in-one activity).


If you plan to sell them (not sure what the market for used magstar tapes
is) Have the vendor you sell them to certify the reformatting of the tape.

Jim



TSM backup type (non TDP) for Oracle files

2002-04-25 Thread George Harding

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Dear All,

I am investigating a TSM backup strategy for Oracle databases (online and offline 
database backups).
We do not have TDP as an option yet so I need to back up using traditional TSM methods.


I am interested to hear what arguments there are in favor and against using either TSM 
incremental or archive backup types to ensure recoverability of
 the database.
Some of the issues are:-

Oracle archived redo (transaction logs) need to be backed up regularly throughout the 
day,
other database files generally are backed up once per day or less frequently.
In case of restore, point in time restore of all Oracle data files is required to 
ensure consistency between Oracle database files.
Larger databases may have read only files (Oracle readonly tablespaces) which do not 
need to be backed up as regularly as the remainder of the
database
 but must be available to be restored in a point in time restore
Many databases also interface with external files e.g. video clips, image files which 
must be consistent with the database for point in time restore.
If the main database files are backed up less often e.g. weekly the required restore 
process may require restoring all database files to point in time
 e.g. to last weekly backup
and then restoring all database redo logs backed up since up to the recovery time 
required.

Looking at the ADSM-L archives, many people seem to use TSM archive backup for Oracle 
databases if they are not using TDP, but
I'm not sure why a dsmc incremental wouldn't be just as good as long as the versioning 
parameters (VEREXISTS, VERDELETED) were set
appropriately.

Also what are the recommendations of storage pool configuration for backing up 
databases and associated files.

TIA

George



Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean

2002-04-25 Thread Bill Mansfield

AFAIK, you count all processors, TSM server and TSM clients.  If you have
a 2-processor Unix server and 10 1-processor NT clients, you have 12
processors.  You them multiple by the right $ amount depending on whether
you are regular or enterprise edition.



_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc
630 718 4238




Zlatko Krastev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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04/13/2002 05:19 PM
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cc:
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Processors in which machine(s)? If this is only server processors it is
little bit surprising to me (according to price book I look at processor
costs less than 200 Euro). If it is for client processors as well the
price goes too high.
Could you be so kind to provide exact Tivoli description from the
licensing document within the box.

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant



Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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cc:

Subject:Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean

Processor means the number of CPUs. For example if you have an RS6000
with 4 CPUs, that is 4 processors. The new pricing is based on the
number of CPUs/processors in the machine.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Zlatko Krastev
Sent: April 13, 2002 9:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean

Hello *SMers,

I still need to obtain an answer what is hidden behind the new
processor
term in Tivoli licensing scheme. It is not only in ISM but also in
Monitoring, Configuration Manager, etc.
After long reading of all announcement letters issued by IBM on 9.04
I
still got not answer. The only light at the end of the tunnel was URL in
one of them (http://www.tivoli.com/products/licensing/). The hope was
dead
when I looked at the page. There were two links (named Definitions for
Tivoli Enhanced Value-Based Pricing (Word doc) updated
03-28-2002 and Definitions for Tivoli Value-Based Pricing (Word doc)
updated 11-05-2001) but suprisingly they pointed to same URL .
Those silly *!$%$!*es have put their licensing into a MS Word file
(hello
Gates, it's time for you to start using Lotus Domino). Moreover as you
can
expect the correct link was the one dated 11-05-2001.
Trying to get answer soon I've filled the form at IBM's site both as
web-site feedback and software inquiry. Even working very close with
Software Division rep at IBM Bulgaria (here IBM does not have Tivoli
dedicated person) I filled another form asking Tivoli rep to contact me.
The only answer was from web feedback. When I calm down I would be able
to
laugh on this answer but right now I am out of my skin.
Thank you for contacting IBM.
In response to your inquiry for the Trivoli Licence agreement term for
processor . and later pointed to toll-free number in U.S. Feeling
this is not
enough the letter continued with IBM Bulgaria's phone number but with
one
digit less.
Yes, right, Trivoli !! It was written three times and all three were
Trivoli. And in their database even the phone numbers are not correct. I
suspect this man did not had any info about IBM Bulgaria's web site or
he
should make a mistake pointing the URL as well.

So please, please, please, any of you who already got their ISM v5.1
sched
some light what is processor in Tivoli terms. Or anyone reading this
at
Tivoli.
I deadly need to make a quote for a customer (till day before yesterday
:-(( ). I have all the prices but do not know how much processor
licenses
I have to put for ISM, APD and APR (IBM TSM, IBM TSM for Databases and
IBM
TSM for ERP).
Thank you for the help.


Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant



TSM Client Log File Help

2002-04-25 Thread Gent, Chad E.

Hello All,

I have a few questions about TSM log files.  I would like to have my TSM log
files sent to another server each night.  I know I can do this with a
pre/post schedule command.  But how can I rename the log files with the
server name and the date.  I'm sure I could write a batch file or something
with certain commands. Any help would be great.

Thanks

Chad Gent
e-mail  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]



4.2.2.0 garbage help problem

2002-04-25 Thread Burak Demircan

Hi,
My problem with garbage help problem on 4.2.2.0 is resolved.
The problem is due to my lack of AIX knowledge. I installed
TSM 4.2.2.0 from smitty from menu Install and Update from LATEST Available 
Software but I missed to upgrade current tivoli.tsm.msg.en_US.server
fileset. I chose: Install and Update from ALL Available Software from
smitty and installed this fileset for version 4.2.2.0 (mine was 4.2.1.13) 
and problem solved.
Hope this helps everybody.
Regards,
Burak


Re: 3583 with San Data Gateway

2002-04-25 Thread Hunny Kershaw

The issue with adsmscsi doesn't recognize the Non-IBM LTO drives as LTO on
the management console has been fixed in 4.2.1.11. This problem doesn't
apply to IBM LTO drives.

Adsmscsi does not support the IBM LTO drives (3580) and therefore \\.\tapex
you see is the correct device name. And the device type on the MMC would be
GENERIC instead of LTO.

However, for the library (3583) on Win2K, you have 2 driver options -
adsmscsi or IBM driver. With the IBM driver, you should see \\.\changerx
whereas with adsmscsi, you will see lbx.x.x.x. Which device driver are you
using for the library? The element addresses for the drives depend on which
driver controls the library.

Hunny Kershaw
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Tel (408) 256-2828, T/L 276-2828

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They show up a GEN_DRIVE where? The TSMSCSI devices screen on the MMC
console? OR when you DEF DRIVE them ) to TSM? There was an issue with the
TSMSCSI driver not recognizing the drives as LTO, but they define correctly
to TSM. You can also issue 'SHOW LIBRARY' in an admin session to display
the
device capabilities and such. I use this to make sure that TSM is
communicating with the drives/library.

Maybe the TSM Device Driver in the 4.2.2.0 maintenance level has the 'fix'.
We got a special release from developement back in January when I did a
client install on W2K and LTO.

 Bill

-Original Message-
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John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re: 3583 with San Data Gateway


Thats correct Bill

The drives show up as follows:

GEN_DRIVE \\Tape0
GEN_DRIVE \\Tape1

I am going on site again tomorrow to try and make some sense of it.

It still concerns me that the windows device manager says that the SDG is
probably not working correctly. I am not sure whether I should just accept
that as normal as someone suggested.

Based on my findings tomorrow, I will post the symptoms is much more
detail.

Rgds
John

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: 3583 with San Data Gateway


 I believe you're wrong. the \\.\Tapex means it is using a native Windows
 device driver and not the TSM SCSI device driver. Which is what he stated
in
 the original email. He's using the IBM LTO device drivers, which is what
the
 Admin book recommends. The Library itself will be managed with the
TSMSCSI
 driver, but the drives use the IBM LTO device driver and show up and
 \\.\Tapex. If you were using the TSMSCSI driver the drives would be
 MTx.x.x.x format.

 Bill Boyer
 DSS, Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Anthony Wong
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 3583 with San Data Gateway


 Console as \\.\TapeX where X is a number.

 \\.\TapeX is a generic device driver

 As mention before, using generic device driver is not supported with TSM
 server on NTx. Since testing all available generic device drivers is time
 consuming and testing teams are no way to test all up-to-date generic
 device drivers against TSM server on NTx.

 IF customers need to use generic drvice driver for any reasons (RSM),use
 Microsoft OS certified device driver from the latest service pack. If
 Microsoft does not provide device driver for the deivce, try download
 latest certified device driver form the vender website.



 TSM testing team never use generic device against TSM with the following
 exception:

 1.  Restore backupset from local attached tape driver/libraries or SDG
 attached tape drive/libraries




 For more information about RSM ,
 http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/devices/magstar.html#magscsi




  The following environments are not presently supported:
Removable Storage Manager (RSM) - controlled libraries on Windows
2000
IBM Ultrium devices when library is controlled by RSM on Windows
2000






 Again, not presently supported does not means it will not work.





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 Project Lead
 Office:408-256-3312 Home:650-757-1661 Cell:415-218-7880 AIM:smartbluewong
 Dept Y0LA /Bldg 050-3 / Office 3A64
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3583 with San Data Gateway- latest Information

2002-04-25 Thread Anthony Wong

The following information come from our TSM device drvier developer.


FOR TSM server 4.2.1.15  ( the latest fix)  should contains adsmscsi.sys
version 4.2.1.17 or later


With this TSM server and device driver level

W2K customer has 2 options

1. For customer need RSM and TSM server , use IBM native device driver and
have RSM  take control the changer , deveice name \\.\changer? and \\.
\tape?  will display in server utility
For others IBM/non-IBM devices, use adsmscsi.sys
( make sure to exclude LTO control by adsmcsci.sys in the server utility)

2. FOR customer do not use RSM, disable RSM claim the changer and library
and use adsmscsi.sys only , device name lbx.x.x.x  and mtx.x.x.x  will
display in server utility




For TSM 5.1.0


NTx customer  only has  1 option


1.  use only latest native driver for LTO for drive and library, server
utility will display lbx.x.x.x and mt.0.0.0
  ( YES) you will not see \\.\tape or \\.\changer even though native driver
is in use.
  If need to use ADSMscsi.sys , then  make sure to exclude LTO control by
adsmcsci.sys in the server utility



Again, I will keep posting up-to-date and make sure latest information is
available to customer.

Please feel free to reply for more comments , questions ^_^.




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Project Lead
Office:408-256-3312 Home:650-757-1661 Cell:415-218-7880 AIM:smartbluewong
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IBM SSG Division 46



Re: TSM Client Log File Help

2002-04-25 Thread Cook, Dwight E

OK, now in a unix environment, I'm thinking specifically of an AIX one, you
have the ability to create a .netrc file under an id such that it will
perform specific actions upon an ftp session being initiated to a specific
node. So I build scripts that do...
#!/bin/ksh
echo machine some_remote_machine  $HOME/.netrc
echo login id_on_that_remote_machine  $HOME/.netrc
echo password password_of_that_id_on_that_remote_machine  $HOME/.netrc
echo macdef init  $HOME/.netrc
echo prompt off  $HOME/.netrc
echo put /somepath/sched.log  /somepath/$(hostname)$(date +%m%d%y)sched.log
 $HOME/.netrc
echo bye  $HOME/.netrc
chmod 600 $HOME/.netrc
ftp some_remote_machine
rm $HOME/.netrc
exit

so just have your postschedcommand run the above script...



Dwight E. Cook
Software Application Engineer III
Science Applications International Corporation
509 S. Boston Ave.  Suit 220
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103-4606
Office (918) 732-7109



-Original Message-
From: Gent, Chad E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Log File Help


Hello All,

I have a few questions about TSM log files.  I would like to have my TSM log
files sent to another server each night.  I know I can do this with a
pre/post schedule command.  But how can I rename the log files with the
server name and the date.  I'm sure I could write a batch file or something
with certain commands. Any help would be great.

Thanks

Chad Gent
e-mail  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: TSM Client Log File Help

2002-04-25 Thread Gent, Chad E.

I guess I should have mentioned that this client is an NT 4.0 client.  The
TSM server is Unix based.

Chad

-Original Message-
From: Cook, Dwight E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Log File Help

OK, now in a unix environment, I'm thinking specifically of an AIX one, you
have the ability to create a .netrc file under an id such that it will
perform specific actions upon an ftp session being initiated to a specific
node. So I build scripts that do...
#!/bin/ksh
echo machine some_remote_machine  $HOME/.netrc
echo login id_on_that_remote_machine  $HOME/.netrc
echo password password_of_that_id_on_that_remote_machine  $HOME/.netrc
echo macdef init  $HOME/.netrc
echo prompt off  $HOME/.netrc
echo put /somepath/sched.log  /somepath/$(hostname)$(date +%m%d%y)sched.log
 $HOME/.netrc
echo bye  $HOME/.netrc
chmod 600 $HOME/.netrc
ftp some_remote_machine
rm $HOME/.netrc
exit

so just have your postschedcommand run the above script...



Dwight E. Cook
Software Application Engineer III
Science Applications International Corporation
509 S. Boston Ave.  Suit 220
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103-4606
Office (918) 732-7109



-Original Message-
From: Gent, Chad E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Log File Help


Hello All,

I have a few questions about TSM log files.  I would like to have my TSM log
files sent to another server each night.  I know I can do this with a
pre/post schedule command.  But how can I rename the log files with the
server name and the date.  I'm sure I could write a batch file or something
with certain commands. Any help would be great.

Thanks

Chad Gent
e-mail  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean

2002-04-25 Thread Rushforth, Tim

Check the definitions
(http://www.tivoli.com/products/licensing/enhanced-vbp-definitions.doc).

For IBM Tivoli products, processors installed in servers require
licensing.

A server is a computer system that provides services to one or more clients
and/or other devices over a network.  Examples include, but are not limited
to, file servers, print servers, mail servers, database servers, application
servers, and Web servers.

So the NT clients would not require Processor licenses (unless they are
acting as a Server!) - but would require a Client license (A client is a
computer system or process that requests a service of another computer
system that is typically referred to as a server.)

-Original Message-
From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean


AFAIK, you count all processors, TSM server and TSM clients.  If you have
a 2-processor Unix server and 10 1-processor NT clients, you have 12
processors.  You them multiple by the right $ amount depending on whether
you are regular or enterprise edition.



_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc
630 718 4238



Re: TSM Database Location

2002-04-25 Thread Andrew Carlson

I am a little confused here.  What kind of corruption are you talking
about?  If corrupted data gets written to one mirror, won't it get
written tothe other mirror too?


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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Davidson, Becky wrote:

 Ilja
 We have some of our database volumes on the shark and I still mirror my db
 volumes. You mirror not only to protect from disk errors but also to protect
 from corruption.  I believe that there was a discussion recently of someone
 who had a corrupted database volume.  A shark will not protect you from that
 becky

 -Original Message-
 From: Ilja G. Coolen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: TSM Database Location


 Well Jonathan,

 This is how we do it.
 We are running on an AIX box for starters.
 We have our 4 DB volumes on an separate filesystem. This is about 40GB in
 total having 20 GB extendable. We do not mirror the DB volumes, because the
 ESS provides all the redundancy we could need. No pain in case of disk
 crashes. No management burden. Leaves more resources to TSM. Our database
 has a 50% mutation daily, but we manage to keep up a 98% to 99% cache hit
 ratio. This high mutation level made us decide to do a full DB backup twice
 a day. We also do a daily reset of all the utilization values.

 All our disk storage pool volumes also are on the same ESS, but in different
 filesystems. These total to about 900 GB.

 We have 2 fibre channel connections directly attached to the ESS. No SAN
 yet. Both FC connections are based on redundancy and load-balancing using
 IBM's subsystem device driver (shipped with the ESS). The ESS disks look the
 same as local disks to an AIX box, so we simply put the ESS disks in AIX
 volume groups/logical volumes/file systems.

 Assumingin you know something about the ESS:
 Inside the ESS whe have defined our 4 (DB) disks on 4 different loops (2
 ranks or 8 packs) so we have 2 hot-spare disks available for each DB volume.
 This also provides the best possible performance.


 So Jonathan. Put your primary DB volumes on an ESS, and you don't need any
 mirrors.
 Let us know what you decide to do. Have fun.

 greetings,

 Ilja Coolen.

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: woensdag 24 april 2002 17:03
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp: Re: TSM Database Location


 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Ilja G. Coolen wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I'd suggest to move it to it's own filesystem placed on an redundant disk
  array, enjoying high performance and recoverability.
  We placed our database volumes on an ESS subsystem. Where you place it is
  your own choice. Just try to achieve redundancy.

 Did you put all primary/copy db volumes on the ESS? What kind of db cache
 hit are you getting? How are you talking to the ESS and how much other
 stuff is talking to the ESS while TSM is running? I am considering using
 the 2nd/3rd copy of the db for DRM purposes on an ESS.

 
 
  Have fun.
 
 
 
  Ilja G. Coolen
 
 
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  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: Brenda Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Verzonden: woensdag 24 april 2002 13:37
  Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Onderwerp: TSM Database Location
 
 
  We are just setting up a new TSM server.  It appears to load the default
  database under /opt/tivoli/tsm/server/bin.  Is it common practice to leave
  it there or to move it to it's own separate location? Any recommendations?
 
  Thanks,
  Brenda
 

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Re: TSM Client Log File Help

2002-04-25 Thread Adams, Matt (US - Hermitage)

Chad,

Use the %computername% environmental variable in your command file.  That
will plug in the name of the client for the file name.

Ex.. C:\program files\tivoli\tsm\baclient ren dsmsched.log
%computername%.log

Matt Adams
Tivoli Storage Manager Team
Hermitage Site Tech
Deloitte  Touche USA LLP
615.882.6861



-Original Message-
From: Gent, Chad E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Log File Help


I guess I should have mentioned that this client is an NT 4.0 client.  The
TSM server is Unix based.

Chad

-Original Message-
From: Cook, Dwight E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client Log File Help

OK, now in a unix environment, I'm thinking specifically of an AIX one, you
have the ability to create a .netrc file under an id such that it will
perform specific actions upon an ftp session being initiated to a specific
node. So I build scripts that do...
#!/bin/ksh
echo machine some_remote_machine  $HOME/.netrc
echo login id_on_that_remote_machine  $HOME/.netrc
echo password password_of_that_id_on_that_remote_machine  $HOME/.netrc
echo macdef init  $HOME/.netrc
echo prompt off  $HOME/.netrc
echo put /somepath/sched.log  /somepath/$(hostname)$(date +%m%d%y)sched.log
 $HOME/.netrc
echo bye  $HOME/.netrc
chmod 600 $HOME/.netrc
ftp some_remote_machine
rm $HOME/.netrc
exit

so just have your postschedcommand run the above script...



Dwight E. Cook
Software Application Engineer III
Science Applications International Corporation
509 S. Boston Ave.  Suit 220
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103-4606
Office (918) 732-7109



-Original Message-
From: Gent, Chad E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client Log File Help


Hello All,

I have a few questions about TSM log files.  I would like to have my TSM log
files sent to another server each night.  I know I can do this with a
pre/post schedule command.  But how can I rename the log files with the
server name and the date.  I'm sure I could write a batch file or something
with certain commands. Any help would be great.

Thanks

Chad Gent
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TSM 4.2.2.0 Major Problem

2002-04-25 Thread Seay, Paul

We installed TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 ML10 this afternoon.  When we started
dsmserv, new sessions were being created every 3 to 5 seconds.  We called
support after about 900 were showing up in the q ses.  They did not have a
clue as to what the problem was.  We backed out to 4.2.1.11.

Memory was growing because of these bogus sessions.  They have 64 bytes sent
and 4 bytes received, no node type or name, TCP/IP commmethod.

This was a test to see how many sessions TSM could create, I guess.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon, INC
757-688-8180



Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean

2002-04-25 Thread Bill Mansfield

Tim, thanks for the clarification.  I was thinking of TSM clients in the
generic sense, not the license sense.

Does anybody have a clear sense of how existing environments VBP license's
are migrated to the new scheme?

_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc





Rushforth, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean


Check the definitions
(http://www.tivoli.com/products/licensing/enhanced-vbp-definitions.doc).

For IBM Tivoli products, processors installed in servers require
licensing.

A server is a computer system that provides services to one or more
clients
and/or other devices over a network.  Examples include, but are not
limited
to, file servers, print servers, mail servers, database servers,
application
servers, and Web servers.

So the NT clients would not require Processor licenses (unless they are
acting as a Server!) - but would require a Client license (A client is
a
computer system or process that requests a service of another computer
system that is typically referred to as a server.)

-Original Message-
From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean


AFAIK, you count all processors, TSM server and TSM clients.  If you have
a 2-processor Unix server and 10 1-processor NT clients, you have 12
processors.  You them multiple by the right $ amount depending on whether
you are regular or enterprise edition.



_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc
630 718 4238



Re: Consolidating TSM servers.

2002-04-25 Thread Zlatko Krastev

Daniel,

is there any specific reason not to consolidate using two TSM server 
instances within one very powerful box. 
From what I've learned from this list others are splitting a server when 
database becomes too large for performance and manageability reasons. You 
can still use same STK silo or 3494 from both instances.
How large are the databases if they hold metadata for those 31TB? Have you 
evaluated the possibility so consolidated instance to become too huge and 
for any reasons you to be forced to split it?
The simple question to not so simple answer -  AFAIK you cannot import 
only the database and use the volumes. The complex answer - have you 
evaluated any other options or you are forced to go that way?

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant





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Subject:Consolidating TSM servers.

Hi
 
Anybody out there know if it's possible to do a export server, without 
having to export all filedata, and then do a import and use the existing 
tapes.
 
We have one STK 9310 and one IBM 3494. Each TSM server has a copypool and 
a primary tape pool in the different libraries. All equipment is SAN 
connected, so if I could first do a DB backup/restore to the new machine 
of one of the TSM servers, and then export everything except for the file 
data from the second TSM server to the new machine, it would be perfect.
 
Doing a export server filedata=all, would create about 1500 new tapes, 
according to a export server preview=yes (about 31TB of data) and this 
would probbaly not work at all.

So, anybody done this before?
 
Best Regards
 
Daniel Sparrman

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Re: TSM Client for Linux

2002-04-25 Thread Williams, Tim P {PBSG}

you probably have something in your dsmerror.log when you try to do a
incrementalhere's my etr:
Abstract:LANS1149E No domain available for incremental
backup
 User keyword:
 Status:  Closed
 Responsible:
 Type:Software Problem
 Severity:3
 CPU device type: 3745
 CPU serial number:   2301526
 Component ID:5697TSMCL
 APAR:
 Release: 210
 Created: 02/04/25
 Updated: 02/04/25
 Contact name:Tim Williams
 Company name:FRITO LAY INC
 Customer ID: 3562300
 Owner IGN user ID:   FRTO13
 Owner IGN account ID:FRTO
 Contact method:  Electronic
 Primary telephone:   (972) 376-7774
 Alternate telephone:
 Electronic delivery ID:  FRTO13
 Electronic account code: FRTO

 -FRTO13FRTO-5697TSMCL  - 02/04/25-15:38-
** For IBM Use Only 
*  In RETAIN use CR CA to complete the call.   *
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RESPOND ELECTRONICALLY.
Route = 5697TSMCL.
Abstract: LANS1149E No domain available for incremental backup

We went from Linux Redhat 7.0 to 7.2
when we went to 7.2 we starting using ext3/jfs
The default of domain all-local does not seem to be invoking...
so we got:
ANS1149E No domain available for incremental backup
we only have 2 local file systems:
/   and /boot
so I added domain / and /boot in the dsm.sys (or options file) and
then incremental backups started to work ok...
what's going on here?
Thanks Tim
x
Hello Tim,
   We don't officially support the ext3 filesystem until V5.1. However
the V4.2 client will operate against this filesystem in toleration
mode. To make this work you have to do explicit things as you have
found. To get full support for this fs as nornal you will need to
run the V5.1 client on this machine.
  Thanks, x.


 -FRTO13FRTO-5697TSMCL  - 02/04/25-16:07-
Reason For Closure:
Thanks. This to close/complete.
upgrade works

-Original Message-
From: Jesse Sanaseros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Client for Linux


Please help.  I've just installed the TSM Client 4.2.1 on Linux 7.2.  I used
the Setup Wizard to created the dsm.opt file and manually edited the dsm.sys
file.  I registered the node with the Server.  TSM Server 4.1 is running on
AIX 4.3.3.  When I run the GUI to start the initial backup there are no
directories listed under Local.  Please help, I don't know what I'm doing
wrong.

Thanks.

Jesse Sanaseros
Information Services
Network Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean

2002-04-25 Thread Kauffman, Tom

I seem to recall seeing somewhere (Maybe on this list?) that Tivoli is still
wrestling with that question.

I may be wrong, but what I'm seeing so far leads me to believe that if we
were to go out and license TSM for our shop NOW, without benefit of upgrades
and Passport Advantage -- we wouldn't be able to cost-justify it. Even if
there were NO alternative. I won't know for sure until I see some
intelligible documentation on the pricing (I should point out that I have
yet to see anything *useable* on TSM pricing for the 4.x series beside what
you provided a while back . . . certainly nothing from Tivoli or IBM).

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:23 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean


 Tim, thanks for the clarification.  I was thinking of TSM
 clients in the
 generic sense, not the license sense.

 Does anybody have a clear sense of how existing environments
 VBP license's
 are migrated to the new scheme?

 _
 William Mansfield
 Senior Consultant
 Solution Technology, Inc





 Rushforth, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager


 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:
 Subject:Re: New Tivoli licensing - what
 processor mean


 Check the definitions
 (http://www.tivoli.com/products/licensing/enhanced-vbp-definit
ions.doc).

For IBM Tivoli products, processors installed in servers require
licensing.

A server is a computer system that provides services to one or more
clients
and/or other devices over a network.  Examples include, but are not
limited
to, file servers, print servers, mail servers, database servers,
application
servers, and Web servers.

So the NT clients would not require Processor licenses (unless they are
acting as a Server!) - but would require a Client license (A client is
a
computer system or process that requests a service of another computer
system that is typically referred to as a server.)

-Original Message-
From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean


AFAIK, you count all processors, TSM server and TSM clients.  If you have
a 2-processor Unix server and 10 1-processor NT clients, you have 12
processors.  You them multiple by the right $ amount depending on whether
you are regular or enterprise edition.



_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc
630 718 4238



Re: Subfile backup - extra files in subfilecachepath

2002-04-25 Thread Rushforth, Tim

My mistake.

I was missing an exclude.subfile statement to exclude al files first!

  -Original Message-
 From: Rushforth, Tim
 Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:51 PM
 To:   ADSM-L (E-mail)
 Subject:  Subfile backup - extra files in subfilecachepath

 I'm just starting to test out subfile backup...

 My include is include.subfile d:\data\outlook\*.pst

 This directory contains only one file.  There are no other include.subfile
 (q inclexcl shows no others).

 On an incremental of just the directory above, the subfilesache directory
 contains 3 files after the backup - the db, a meta, and the base file.

 When an incremental of the entire workstation is run, the subfilecache
 directory contains 169 files! (all extra meta and base files).

 TSM client is 4.2.1.20 - Server 4.2.0.

 So it seems like multiple files are being included in the subfile backup.
 How does one tell what files are being included in the subfile backup?

 This has happened on 2 different machines (which is all I've tried it on
 so far!)

 Has anyone run into this?


 Thanks,

 Tim Rushforth
 City of Winnipeg



TSM Client for Linux

2002-04-25 Thread Jesse Sanaseros

Please help.  I've just installed the TSM Client 4.2.1 on Linux 7.2.  I used the Setup 
Wizard to created the dsm.opt file and manually edited the dsm.sys file.  I registered 
the node with the Server.  TSM Server 4.1 is running on AIX 4.3.3.  When I run the GUI 
to start the initial backup there are no directories listed under Local.  Please help, 
I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks.

Jesse Sanaseros
Information Services
Network Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Technical comparisons

2002-04-25 Thread Don France (TSMnews)

There are a couple (new) white papers on the Tivoli site... one's pretty
good (Achieving Cost Savings...), and has no do not duplicate notices;
the other is pretty weasel-ly, was commissioned to a consulting group *and*
has do not duplicate notices on it --- AND it's not all that good, except
for high-level management that are clue-less about storage management ROI
details!!!

http://www.tivoli.com/products/solutions/storage/storage_related.html#white

I have been sharing copies of the good one with IT director types (and the
NT-platform admin types that think BrightStor is a good solution).  There's
another one I liked, also;  the Disk to Disk Data File Backup and
Restore... targets SANergy, but has an outstanding build-up from local tape
drive to network-based (and, ultimately, SAN-based) backup/restore
strategies.  It's listed with the Technical Briefs at the above link.

Don France
Technical Architect - Tivoli Certified Consultant

Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E.)
San Jose, CA
(408) 257-3037
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



- Original Message -
From: Jolliff, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:12 AM
Subject: Technical comparisons


 Does anyone have a link to some detailed white paper sort of comparisons
 between TSM and the leading competitors in storage management?

 I have a customer specifically asking for comparisons between Veritas and
 Tivoli - and the most recent google search turned up several marketing
 pieces from Veritas and one Gartner comparison on old versions of ADSM/TSM
 (version 3.x)..

 Surely someone else has already invented this wheel?



Re: Big Restores?

2002-04-25 Thread Don France (TSMnews)

1.  Turn OFF client and admin schedules;
2. Turn OFF any real-time virus scan (on the destination client);
3. If you're doing restore to Windows platform, use  -DIRSONLY option, to
restore just the directories, first -- after first pass, then restore
the -FILESONLY -- using PIT restore options, in both cases;
4. Use command-line client, AND consider using CLASSIC restore (eg,
specify -PICK option) so the server will sort  consolidate tape mounts;
5. Run multiple restore sessions from separate high-level directories, up to
the number of tape drives available for the task.

Monitor network pipe on both ends, ensure it's full of data (remove any
bottlenecks observed, such as other apps like lfcep.exe).  Expect to get
5-10 GB per hour with large file server;  best case, maybe up to 15 GB/Hr.

Don France
Technical Architect - Tivoli Certified Consultant

Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E.)
San Jose, CA
(408) 257-3037
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: Schreiber, Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:55 AM
Subject: Big Restores?


Hello,

how can I generally perform big restores(e.g. we have DIRMC)???

Any suggestions??


Regards,

Roland



Re: Big Restores?

2002-04-25 Thread Andrew Raibeck

Some additional considerations:

If DIRMC is being used, you shouldn't need to restore the directories
first.

Concurrent restores of high-level directories might offer some performance
benefits, but there is no guarantee that one of the restore operations
won't end up waiting on a tape in use by another restore operation. If
restoring multiple volumes, though, you could launch concurrent restores
for each volume and get some performance benerit, provided that you have a
pure collocation by file space environment.

TSM 5.1 offers multi-session restore capability (requires 5.1 server and
client) if (a) you are doing a no query restore, and (b) the data is on
sequential media (like tape).

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Don France (TSMnews) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
04/25/2002 15:30
Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Re: Big Restores?



1.  Turn OFF client and admin schedules;
2. Turn OFF any real-time virus scan (on the destination client);
3. If you're doing restore to Windows platform, use  -DIRSONLY option, to
restore just the directories, first -- after first pass, then restore
the -FILESONLY -- using PIT restore options, in both cases;
4. Use command-line client, AND consider using CLASSIC restore (eg,
specify -PICK option) so the server will sort  consolidate tape mounts;
5. Run multiple restore sessions from separate high-level directories, up
to
the number of tape drives available for the task.

Monitor network pipe on both ends, ensure it's full of data (remove any
bottlenecks observed, such as other apps like lfcep.exe).  Expect to get
5-10 GB per hour with large file server;  best case, maybe up to 15 GB/Hr.

Don France
Technical Architect - Tivoli Certified Consultant

Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E.)
San Jose, CA
(408) 257-3037
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: Schreiber, Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:55 AM
Subject: Big Restores?


Hello,

how can I generally perform big restores(e.g. we have DIRMC)???

Any suggestions??


Regards,

Roland



Re: TSM Client for Linux

2002-04-25 Thread Robert Molerio

I think you have to reboot the client.

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Jesse Sanaseros wrote:

 Please help.  I've just installed the TSM Client 4.2.1 on Linux 7.2.  I used the 
Setup Wizard to created the dsm.opt file and manually edited the dsm.sys file.  I 
registered the node with the Server.  TSM Server 4.1 is running on AIX 4.3.3.  When I 
run the GUI to start the initial backup there are no directories listed under Local.  
Please help, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

 Thanks.

 Jesse Sanaseros
 Information Services
 Network Administrator
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]