Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber24 repair

[Omni Flux via AF]

>
> This thread explains why the repair service is currently unavailable, and
> that they expect it to be available again at some point, although it does
> not give a timeline.
>
>
> https://community.ui.com/questions/Return-AF24-for-repair/26983a4c-b78b-4243-8d91-5e97a6761c63#answer/10adf3e0-149b-4923-b590-9098f01ef1f1
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Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber24 repair

[Robert]

Does anyone know off hand if the AF24 and AF24HD share the same basic 
mounting hardware?  Is it easy to swap them without changing the alignment?


On 6/28/19 6:47 PM, Jeremy wrote:

I tried support for months and never even received a reply.

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 5:21 PM SmarterBroadband > wrote:


I have emailed support to see what they can do.

__ __

Thanks

__ __

Adam

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*Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:51 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber24 repair

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Like I said, it was 2 years ago, but I had to go through support to
verify the broken radios before it let me purchase it from the
store.  They gave me a special code to use at the store.

Nate

On 6/26/2019 4:48 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

Followed the link and it says “Sold Out”…..



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Withrow via AF
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*To:* af@af.afmug.com 
*Cc:* Tim Withrow  
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber24 repair



Thanks for the tip



On Monday, June 24, 2019 Nate Burke mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

There's an official repair channel through UBNT I Believe.   In
2017 I sent in 2 broken AF24 radios, and they let me buy
refurbed radios for $400 each.    Everything was coordinated
through Support and then ordered via the UBNT Store.  Unless
thing have changed since then.

https://store.ui.com/search?mockup=airfiber+repair=airfiber+repair*






On 6/24/2019 6:10 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

I have a couple of AirFiber24s that need repair. 



Anyone doing this?



Thanks



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Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber24 repair

[Jeremy]

I tried support for months and never even received a reply.

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 5:21 PM SmarterBroadband  wrote:

> I have emailed support to see what they can do.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber24 repair
>
>
>
> Like I said, it was 2 years ago, but I had to go through support to verify
> the broken radios before it let me purchase it from the store.  They gave
> me a special code to use at the store.
>
> Nate
>
> On 6/26/2019 4:48 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>
> Followed the link and it says “Sold Out”…..
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Withrow via AF
> *Sent:* Monday, June 24, 2019 6:21 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* Tim Withrow  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber24 repair
>
>
>
> Thanks for the tip
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>
> On Monday, June 24, 2019 Nate Burke  wrote:
>
> There's an official repair channel through UBNT I Believe.   In 2017 I
> sent in 2 broken AF24 radios, and they let me buy refurbed radios for $400
> each.Everything was coordinated through Support and then ordered via
> the UBNT Store.  Unless thing have changed since then.
>
> https://store.ui.com/search?mockup=airfiber+repair=airfiber+repair*
>
>
>
>
> On 6/24/2019 6:10 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>
> I have a couple of AirFiber24s that need repair.
>
>
>
> Anyone doing this?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
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[AFMUG] OT movie review

[Chuck McCown]

Yesterday 
Absolutely loved it!!!

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Re: [AFMUG] OT - photo brings back memories of the JFK era

[Ken Hohhof]

Fairness doctrine required balanced coverage of controversial issues, reasoning 
that broadcast spectrum was scarce and people couldn't roam the dial looking 
for diverse coverage of events.

Problem today is there are no facts, just opinions, hence ALL issues are 
controversial.  NASA in the news?  Better book a flat earther and a moon 
landing conspiracy theorist.  Pope in the news?  Book an atheist.  Measles 
outbreak?  Book an anti-vaxxer.  FCC spectrum auction in the news?  Get a guy 
who says RF is dangerous.

I do remember the Vietnam War being a turning point, also probably Watergate.  
Previously the nightly news pretty much reported government press releases.  
But then networks started embedding reporters with the troops, and they started 
reporting inconvenient truths about the war.

Remember SNL and Point-Counterpoint?  "Jane, you ignorant slut!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c91XUyg9iWM
 



-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 5:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - photo brings back memories of the JFK era

Wouldn’t it be nice if they brought that back...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
> 
> & it was a legal requirement that news provide _both_ sides of an issue every 
> evening at 5pm, in return for their free access to the airwaves.
> 
>> On 06/28/2019 02:05 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> And Walter Cronkite told us how thing were each evening and that is the way 
>> they were.
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2019 2:54 PM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - photo brings back memories of the JFK era 
>> News sites are reporting that Caroline Kennedy has put Jackie’s Martha’s 
>> Vineyard estate up for sale, and they are including some historical photos.
>> Probably most of you were born after Nov. 22, 1963, and don’t have the same 
>> emotional reaction I did when I saw this photo.  But it brought me back to a 
>> time when the country felt united and optimistic, and you could turn on the 
>> TV without being deluged with partisan politics.  Things weren’t perfect, 
>> there were issues with racial and gender equality, and all that Cold War 
>> stuff, and yes there were divisions and politics.  And while youthful and 
>> inspiring, the President was still a white male.
>> But damn, I had forgotten what Lee Harvey Oswald took away from us, and how 
>> things have changed in 50+ years.  I’ve also come across my dad’s home 
>> movies from the 50’s and 60’s, and those really were more optimistic and 
>> unified times (although I notice nobody is on their phone). People like my 
>> dad and uncle had come back from the war and were just raising their 
>> families, having backyard barbecues and birthday parties for the kids.  No 
>> Fox News or MSNBC, and when the President went on national TV, everyone 
>> watched because it was something important for the whole country. 
>> Unfortunately that could be the Cuban Missile Crisis.  Or an assassination 
>> in Dallas.
>> Maybe a nice July 4 parade and some fireworks will cheer me up.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - photo brings back memories of the JFK era

[Chuck McCown]

Wouldn’t it be nice if they brought that back...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
> 
> & it was a legal requirement that news provide _both_ sides of an issue every 
> evening at 5pm, in return for their free access to the airwaves.
> 
>> On 06/28/2019 02:05 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> And Walter Cronkite told us how thing were each evening and that is the way 
>> they were.
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2019 2:54 PM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - photo brings back memories of the JFK era
>> News sites are reporting that Caroline Kennedy has put Jackie’s Martha’s 
>> Vineyard estate up for sale, and they are including some historical photos.
>> Probably most of you were born after Nov. 22, 1963, and don’t have the same 
>> emotional reaction I did when I saw this photo.  But it brought me back to a 
>> time when the country felt united and optimistic, and you could turn on the 
>> TV without being deluged with partisan politics.  Things weren’t perfect, 
>> there were issues with racial and gender equality, and all that Cold War 
>> stuff, and yes there were divisions and politics.  And while youthful and 
>> inspiring, the President was still a white male.
>> But damn, I had forgotten what Lee Harvey Oswald took away from us, and how 
>> things have changed in 50+ years.  I’ve also come across my dad’s home 
>> movies from the 50’s and 60’s, and those really were more optimistic and 
>> unified times (although I notice nobody is on their phone). People like my 
>> dad and uncle had come back from the war and were just raising their 
>> families, having backyard barbecues and birthday parties for the kids.  No 
>> Fox News or MSNBC, and when the President went on national TV, everyone 
>> watched because it was something important for the whole country. 
>> Unfortunately that could be the Cuban Missile Crisis.  Or an assassination 
>> in Dallas.
>> Maybe a nice July 4 parade and some fireworks will cheer me up.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - photo brings back memories of the JFK era

[Robert Andrews]

& it was a legal requirement that news provide _both_ sides of an issue 
every evening at 5pm, in return for their free access to the airwaves.


On 06/28/2019 02:05 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
And Walter Cronkite told us how thing were each evening and that is the 
way they were.

*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2019 2:54 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - photo brings back memories of the JFK era

News sites are reporting that Caroline Kennedy has put Jackie’s Martha’s 
Vineyard estate up for sale, and they are including some historical photos.


Probably most of you were born after Nov. 22, 1963, and don’t have the 
same emotional reaction I did when I saw this photo.  But it brought me 
back to a time when the country felt united and optimistic, and you 
could turn on the TV without being deluged with partisan politics.  
Things weren’t perfect, there were issues with racial and gender 
equality, and all that Cold War stuff, and yes there were divisions and 
politics.  And while youthful and inspiring, the President was still a 
white male.


But damn, I had forgotten what Lee Harvey Oswald took away from us, and 
how things have changed in 50+ years.  I’ve also come across my dad’s 
home movies from the 50’s and 60’s, and those really were more 
optimistic and unified times (although I notice nobody is on their 
phone). People like my dad and uncle had come back from the war and were 
just raising their families, having backyard barbecues and birthday 
parties for the kids.  No Fox News or MSNBC, and when the President went 
on national TV, everyone watched because it was something important for 
the whole country. Unfortunately that could be the Cuban Missile 
Crisis.  Or an assassination in Dallas.


Maybe a nice July 4 parade and some fireworks will cheer me up.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT - photo brings back memories of the JFK era

[Chuck McCown]

And Walter Cronkite told us how thing were each evening and that is the way 
they were.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 2:54 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT - photo brings back memories of the JFK era

News sites are reporting that Caroline Kennedy has put Jackie’s Martha’s 
Vineyard estate up for sale, and they are including some historical photos.

 

Probably most of you were born after Nov. 22, 1963, and don’t have the same 
emotional reaction I did when I saw this photo.  But it brought me back to a 
time when the country felt united and optimistic, and you could turn on the TV 
without being deluged with partisan politics.  Things weren’t perfect, there 
were issues with racial and gender equality, and all that Cold War stuff, and 
yes there were divisions and politics.  And while youthful and inspiring, the 
President was still a white male.

 

But damn, I had forgotten what Lee Harvey Oswald took away from us, and how 
things have changed in 50+ years.  I’ve also come across my dad’s home movies 
from the 50’s and 60’s, and those really were more optimistic and unified times 
(although I notice nobody is on their phone).  People like my dad and uncle had 
come back from the war and were just raising their families, having backyard 
barbecues and birthday parties for the kids.  No Fox News or MSNBC, and when 
the President went on national TV, everyone watched because it was something 
important for the whole country.  Unfortunately that could be the Cuban Missile 
Crisis.  Or an assassination in Dallas.

 

Maybe a nice July 4 parade and some fireworks will cheer me up.




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[AFMUG] OT - photo brings back memories of the JFK era

[Ken Hohhof]

News sites are reporting that Caroline Kennedy has put Jackie's Martha's
Vineyard estate up for sale, and they are including some historical photos.

 

Probably most of you were born after Nov. 22, 1963, and don't have the same
emotional reaction I did when I saw this photo.  But it brought me back to a
time when the country felt united and optimistic, and you could turn on the
TV without being deluged with partisan politics.  Things weren't perfect,
there were issues with racial and gender equality, and all that Cold War
stuff, and yes there were divisions and politics.  And while youthful and
inspiring, the President was still a white male.

 

But damn, I had forgotten what Lee Harvey Oswald took away from us, and how
things have changed in 50+ years.  I've also come across my dad's home
movies from the 50's and 60's, and those really were more optimistic and
unified times (although I notice nobody is on their phone).  People like my
dad and uncle had come back from the war and were just raising their
families, having backyard barbecues and birthday parties for the kids.  No
Fox News or MSNBC, and when the President went on national TV, everyone
watched because it was something important for the whole country.
Unfortunately that could be the Cuban Missile Crisis.  Or an assassination
in Dallas.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[fiberrun]

There is fabric innerduct, such as MaxCell, that is supposed to make it easier 
to install a second cable into a prepopulated duct.


Jared
 
 

Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 
From: "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

In my experience, it is tough to get a second cable through a conduit even if 
there is a mule tape.  It seems the first cable seems to clog things up.
We have had limited success inside subdivisions where we have flat drop cable 
and running 1 or 2 more flat drops in a conduit.
 
Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com
 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:13 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity
 

Pretty sure the answer is no on both, but if i have 1.25 populated with 96 
count, can you realistically come back and blow/pull anything else? What if its 
populated with 24 count?
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Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[Steve Jones]

I didnt figure it was an option, just kicking around some ideas

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:40 AM  wrote:

> You can always add intermediate handholes to break it up into smaller
> sections.  I have had to rod it before to get it to work, especially around
> corners.  They make little parachutes to blow jet line through and then
> pull mule tape.  All sounds reasonable and logical until you actually start
> doing it.
>
> In reality, schedule a maintenance window between 2 and 4 in the morning.
> Cut the old fiber and use it to pull in a larger count.
>
> *From:* Trey Scarborough
> *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2019 9:26 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity
>
>
> yeah I agree with Jim Probably not going to work especial if its been
> there for any amount of time. If it it was 24-72 count, typically the same
> diameter, maybe if you were blowing it. If this is a build you are planning
> and the duct isn't in add another one.
> On 6/28/2019 9:19 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:
>
> I would be shocked if it works.
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2019 9:18 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity
>
>
>
> a mile between handholes
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:09 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <
> j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote:
>
> In my experience, it is tough to get a second cable through a conduit even
> if there is a mule tape.  It seems the first cable seems to clog things up.
>
> We have had limited success inside subdivisions where we have flat drop
> cable and running 1 or 2 more flat drops in a conduit.
>
>
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2019 8:13 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity
>
>
>
> Pretty sure the answer is no on both, but if i have 1.25 populated with 96
> count, can you realistically come back and blow/pull anything else? What if
> its populated with 24 count?
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Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[Bill Prince]

That sounds like the ticket.


bp


On 6/28/2019 8:40 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
In reality, schedule a maintenance window between 2 and 4 in the 
morning.  Cut the old fiber and use it to pull in a larger count. 


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Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[chuck]

You can always add intermediate handholes to break it up into smaller sections. 
 I have had to rod it before to get it to work, especially around corners.  
They make little parachutes to blow jet line through and then pull mule tape.  
All sounds reasonable and logical until you actually start doing it.

In reality, schedule a maintenance window between 2 and 4 in the morning.  Cut 
the old fiber and use it to pull in a larger count.  

From: Trey Scarborough 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:26 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

yeah I agree with Jim Probably not going to work especial if its been there for 
any amount of time. If it it was 24-72 count, typically the same diameter, 
maybe if you were blowing it. If this is a build you are planning and the duct 
isn't in add another one.


On 6/28/2019 9:19 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:

  I would be shocked if it works.

  Jim Bouse
  Owner - Brazos WiFi
  979-985-5912
  http://www.brazoswifi.com

   

  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:18 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

   

  a mile between handholes

   

   

  On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:09 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]  
wrote:

In my experience, it is tough to get a second cable through a conduit even 
if there is a mule tape.  It seems the first cable seems to clog things up.

We have had limited success inside subdivisions where we have flat drop 
cable and running 1 or 2 more flat drops in a conduit.

 

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:13 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

 

Pretty sure the answer is no on both, but if i have 1.25 populated with 96 
count, can you realistically come back and blow/pull anything else? What if its 
populated with 24 count?

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Re: [AFMUG] OTA DVR etc

[Trey Scarborough]

I have a couple HDhomerun devices. They are compatible with several DVR 
software programs I am using mythtv just because I have for almost 20 
years. Most people seem to like Plex though.


On 6/27/2019 7:40 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
So what is the borg's conciseness on the best OTA tv interface that 
can do DVR, etc?


I just realized I haven't turned on my DirecTV in weeks and it's 160mrc !

I was thinking of getting an IPTV solution + OTA antenna, needs to 
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Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[Trey Scarborough]

yeah I agree with Jim Probably not going to work especial if its been 
there for any amount of time. If it it was 24-72 count, typically the 
same diameter, maybe if you were blowing it. If this is a build you are 
planning and the duct isn't in add another one.


On 6/28/2019 9:19 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:


I would be shocked if it works.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
*Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2019 9:18 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

a mile between handholes

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:09 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:


In my experience, it is tough to get a second cable through a
conduit even if there is a mule tape.  It seems the first cable
seems to clog things up.

We have had limited success inside subdivisions where we have flat
drop cable and running 1 or 2 more flat drops in a conduit.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
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Pretty sure the answer is no on both, but if i have 1.25 populated
with 96 count, can you realistically come back and blow/pull
anything else? What if its populated with 24 count?

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Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I would be shocked if it works.
Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

a mile between handholes


On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:09 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:
In my experience, it is tough to get a second cable through a conduit even if 
there is a mule tape.  It seems the first cable seems to clog things up.
We have had limited success inside subdivisions where we have flat drop cable 
and running 1 or 2 more flat drops in a conduit.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:13 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

Pretty sure the answer is no on both, but if i have 1.25 populated with 96 
count, can you realistically come back and blow/pull anything else? What if its 
populated with 24 count?
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Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[Steve Jones]

a mile between handholes


On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:09 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
wrote:

> In my experience, it is tough to get a second cable through a conduit even
> if there is a mule tape.  It seems the first cable seems to clog things up.
>
> We have had limited success inside subdivisions where we have flat drop
> cable and running 1 or 2 more flat drops in a conduit.
>
>
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2019 8:13 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity
>
>
>
> Pretty sure the answer is no on both, but if i have 1.25 populated with 96
> count, can you realistically come back and blow/pull anything else? What if
> its populated with 24 count?
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Re: [AFMUG] ODTR

[Josh Luthman]

OTDR would be easier to find :)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 3:51 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

>
>
> We are looking for a cost-effective (cheap) ODTR to test fiber we are
> putting in a business park.  Not looking to have much otherwise.
>
>
>
> Any budget friendly gear that works well?   Or maybe rent /borrow one for
> a week?
>
>
>
> *Paul McCall, President *
>
> *Florida Broadband / PDMNet*
>
> *658 Old Dixie Highway*
>
> *Vero Beach, FL 32962*
>
> *772-564-6800*
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Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

In my experience, it is tough to get a second cable through a conduit even if 
there is a mule tape.  It seems the first cable seems to clog things up.
We have had limited success inside subdivisions where we have flat drop cable 
and running 1 or 2 more flat drops in a conduit.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:13 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

Pretty sure the answer is no on both, but if i have 1.25 populated with 96 
count, can you realistically come back and blow/pull anything else? What if its 
populated with 24 count?
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Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[chuck]

Sometimes.  Depends on lots of factors.  How far?

You can push rods and pull back mule tape.  Sometimes you can blow jetline and 
pull back mule tape.
Microfiber will fit, the problem is whether or not the 96 is laying nice in the 
bottom of the duct or if it spirals and cork screws a bunch.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:13 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

Pretty sure the answer is no on both, but if i have 1.25 populated with 96 
count, can you realistically come back and blow/pull anything else? What if its 
populated with 24 count?



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[AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[Steve Jones]

Pretty sure the answer is no on both, but if i have 1.25 populated with 96
count, can you realistically come back and blow/pull anything else? What if
its populated with 24 count?
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Re: [AFMUG] OTA DVR etc

[Andy Trimmell]

YoutubeTV comes with cloud dvr as well. No need for another device to record 
and the space is unlimited.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTA DVR etc

 

I bought the airTV and am very pleased with it.  No monthly fees.  If you want 
the DVR function you have to use it with the Sling App but they have a free 
Sling version.  Sling version has a much better on screen guide.  

 

It has its own airTV app that does everything but DVR.  

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 6:40 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: [AFMUG] OTA DVR etc

 

So what is the borg's conciseness on the best OTA tv interface that can do DVR, 
etc? 

 

I just realized I haven't turned on my DirecTV in weeks and it's 160mrc ! 

 

I was thinking of getting an IPTV solution + OTA antenna, needs to know the 
best DVR or interface etc? 



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Re: [AFMUG] ODTR

[fiberrun]

FYI, the weekly rentals are just about what you'd pay for an el cheapo Chinese 
OTDR. Mine works fine for short distances (< ~10 miles). On longer spans the 
sensitivity/noise/dead zones are suboptimal, but it still works. FS has some, 
but haven't tried their models.

In other words, it all depends on what your requirements are. If you are just 
testing short spans, know what you are doing and can live with the limitations, 
go Chinese. If you need to characterize, certify or need something like iOLM 
and/or need it only intermittently, rent.

Jared
 
 

Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 
From: "Tim Withrow via AF" 
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: "Tim Withrow" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ODTR
rental is best  I would think if you're not going to put it the full use. 
Here's a couple links that can help you out.
https://www.fiberinstrumentsales.com/otdr-rentals
I would say go with the best to rent.
 
https://www.flukenetworks.com/content/authorized-rental-partners[https://www.flukenetworks.com/content/authorized-rental-partners]
 
 

On Thursday, June 27, 2019 Paul McCall  wrote:
 

 
We are looking for a cost-effective (cheap) ODTR to test fiber we are putting 
in a business park.  Not looking to have much otherwise. 
 
Any budget friendly gear that works well?   Or maybe rent /borrow one for a 
week?
 
Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
 
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