Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
Google has been trying to shut down Hangouts for years, but their replacements always suck. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 4:41:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use I find it interesting that Google is shutting down Google Hangouts to replace it with a Slack clone. If Slack is what you want, why not just use Slack? From: AF On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 4:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use I've used a data only sim in Croatia before. It was unlimited data for something cheap like $15 for 10 days. What I don't understand is why people are using whatsapp? No one I know uses it but everyone I know has Facebook and with messenger and you can chat, call, and video message. So why go out of the way to download a redundant app like whatsapp? I've been on cruises, overseas many times and I either pay Verizon $10 a day for the roaming or if long term, I buy a sim card just for data. All voice calls I do over Facebook, our office voip through an android app, or slack. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 4:28 PM SmarterBroadband < li...@sbb.net wrote: Mark, you can do $10 a day for the convenience Adam From: AF [mailto: af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Bill, Yeah, that's verizon's pay as you go rate. $10/day adds up quick. Doing some research, I can get some European data only sim's for about $35 for 30 days with about 8GB of data. 8GB should be good enough for keeping up to date with whatsapp and basic web surfing. Guess I can check my voicemail and get texts on my main number when I'm near WiFi. I do have a Boingo account I rarely use. I think they have an App the will detect and automatically connect to their hotspots. Thinking between that, public WiFi and a data only SIM, I should be reachable most of the time. -- Best regards, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Thursday, January 24, 2019, 4:26:21 PM, you wrote: Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money on. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough < t...@3dsc.co > wrote: I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have been the included international roaming data connection has worked descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim cards and service. On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > calling. > > Anybody ever try this? > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto: m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.MyakkaTech.com > > -- Trey Scarborough VP Engineering 3DS Communications LLC p:9729741539 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
WiFi calling can work just fine. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:49:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Somebody mentioned WiFi calling, does that really work OK for you, even domestically? I don’t use it, but the only time I hear it mentioned is when a WISP customer calls complaining about WiFi calling, usually dropped or one-way calls, but that everything else on their Internet connection is fine. For whatever reason, they usually seem to have a Sprint phone. My conclusion was that WiFi calling must not be very reliable, so please stop calling your ISP about it. It seems like people were using it at their house rather than get a microcell. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:26 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money on. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough < t...@3dsc.co > wrote: I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have been the included international roaming data connection has worked descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim cards and service. On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > calling. > > Anybody ever try this? > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto: m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.MyakkaTech.com > > -- Trey Scarborough VP Engineering 3DS Communications LLC p:9729741539 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
https://fi.google.com/about/international-rates/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 2:42:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Move to Google Fi and you can large be done with worrying about international phone usage. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 2:38:48 PM Subject: [AFMUG] International cell phone use I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. We are able to communicate with no issues. When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi calling. Anybody ever try this? -- Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
What Trey says. I go international every couple of months. T-Mobile has free texting and data internationally. Works fine for my emailing, what’s apping, and google maps needs. Plus I get free WiFi while I’m flying on delta for free :). Then I just make WiFi calls from the place I stay and it’s free there. Otherwise it’s like 25/c a minute. Highly recommend t-mob to anybody traveling often internationally. A couple of years ago they gave out a summer of free LTE speeds while traveling in Europe. -c > On Jan 24, 2019, at 13:15, Trey Scarborough wrote: > > I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have been > the included international roaming data connection has worked descent enough > with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other options. The additional > I pay for the One on top of the regular service would probably equal the same > as what it would be for a couple of sim cards and service. > >> On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: >> I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been >> recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm >> trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. >> >> So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use >> whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. >> We are able to communicate with no issues. >> >> When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my >> current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past >> using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. >> >> So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be >> no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but >> with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? >> Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi >> calling. >> >> Anybody ever try this? >> >> -- >> >> Thanks, >> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com >> >> Myakka Technologies, Inc. >> www.MyakkaTech.com >> >> > -- > > Trey Scarborough > VP Engineering > 3DS Communications LLC > p:9729741539 > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
I find it interesting that Google is shutting down Google Hangouts to replace it with a Slack clone. If Slack is what you want, why not just use Slack? From: AF On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 4:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use I've used a data only sim in Croatia before. It was unlimited data for something cheap like $15 for 10 days. What I don't understand is why people are using whatsapp? No one I know uses it but everyone I know has Facebook and with messenger and you can chat, call, and video message. So why go out of the way to download a redundant app like whatsapp? I've been on cruises, overseas many times and I either pay Verizon $10 a day for the roaming or if long term, I buy a sim card just for data. All voice calls I do over Facebook, our office voip through an android app, or slack. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 4:28 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> wrote: Mark, you can do $10 a day for the convenience Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Bill, Yeah, that's verizon's pay as you go rate. $10/day adds up quick. Doing some research, I can get some European data only sim's for about $35 for 30 days with about 8GB of data. 8GB should be good enough for keeping up to date with whatsapp and basic web surfing. Guess I can check my voicemail and get texts on my main number when I'm near WiFi. I do have a Boingo account I rarely use. I think they have an App the will detect and automatically connect to their hotspots. Thinking between that, public WiFi and a data only SIM, I should be reachable most of the time. -- Best regards, Mark <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. <http://www.MyakkaTech.com> www.MyakkaTech.com -- Thursday, January 24, 2019, 4:26:21 PM, you wrote: Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money on. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough < <mailto:t...@3dsc.co> t...@3dsc.co> wrote: I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have been the included international roaming data connection has worked descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim cards and service. On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > calling. > > Anybody ever try this? > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto: <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> > m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > <http://www.MyakkaTech.com> www.MyakkaTech.com > > -- Trey Scarborough VP Engineering 3DS Communications LLC p:9729741539 -- AF mailing list <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> AF@af.afmug.com <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
Oh, right, that was another complaint I got from a handful of people trying to use WiFi calling, their text messages didn’t come through. I figured that was because SMS uses the control channel on the cell tower and so maybe you shouldn’t expect it to work. Like people just assume that you can send text messages to landlines. We do get text messages on our business line, but only because we have an SMS-to-email gateway configured. Maybe WiFi calling has matured over the past couple years, I don’t think I’ve gotten calls about it recently. Or maybe people have stopped calling their ISP about every problem with every device they buy and app they use. Haha, just kidding. From: AF On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 4:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Ken, Was on a Royal Caribbean Cruise over the New Year. Signed up for their ship Internet package and used WiFi calling. Didn't have any issues. Texts worked find and I had no problem dialing into my voice mail to check messages. -- Best regards, Mark <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. <http://www.MyakkaTech.com> www.MyakkaTech.com -- Thursday, January 24, 2019, 4:49:52 PM, you wrote: Somebody mentioned WiFi calling, does that really work OK for you, even domestically? I don’t use it, but the only time I hear it mentioned is when a WISP customer calls complaining about WiFi calling, usually dropped or one-way calls, but that everything else on their Internet connection is fine. For whatever reason, they usually seem to have a Sprint phone. My conclusion was that WiFi calling must not be very reliable, so please stop calling your ISP about it. It seems like people were using it at their house rather than get a microcell. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:26 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money on. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough mailto:t...@3dsc.co> > wrote: I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have been the included international roaming data connection has worked descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim cards and service. On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > calling. > > Anybody ever try this? > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.MyakkaTech.com <http://www.MyakkaTech.com> > > -- Trey Scarborough VP Engineering 3DS Communications LLC p:9729741539 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
We have done the $10 a day the last couple of times in Europe. Works pretty well but there is a limited amount of high speed data per day and then they slow it down for the rest of the day to 3G. Just have to be careful. Regards, David Coudron From: AF on behalf of Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:34 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use I've used a data only sim in Croatia before. It was unlimited data for something cheap like $15 for 10 days. What I don't understand is why people are using whatsapp? No one I know uses it but everyone I know has Facebook and with messenger and you can chat, call, and video message. So why go out of the way to download a redundant app like whatsapp? I've been on cruises, overseas many times and I either pay Verizon $10 a day for the roaming or if long term, I buy a sim card just for data. All voice calls I do over Facebook, our office voip through an android app, or slack. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 4:28 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> wrote: Mark, you can do $10 a day for the convenience Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Bill, Yeah, that's verizon's pay as you go rate. $10/day adds up quick. Doing some research, I can get some European data only sim's for about $35 for 30 days with about 8GB of data. 8GB should be good enough for keeping up to date with whatsapp and basic web surfing. Guess I can check my voicemail and get texts on my main number when I'm near WiFi. I do have a Boingo account I rarely use. I think they have an App the will detect and automatically connect to their hotspots. Thinking between that, public WiFi and a data only SIM, I should be reachable most of the time. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com<http://www.MyakkaTech.com> -- Thursday, January 24, 2019, 4:26:21 PM, you wrote: Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money on. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough mailto:t...@3dsc.co>> wrote: I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have been the included international roaming data connection has worked descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim cards and service. On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > calling. > > Anybody ever try this? > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com<mailto:m...@mailmt.com> > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.MyakkaTech.com<http://www.MyakkaTech.com> > > -- Trey Scarborough VP Engineering 3DS Communications LLC p:9729741539 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
I've used a data only sim in Croatia before. It was unlimited data for something cheap like $15 for 10 days. What I don't understand is why people are using whatsapp? No one I know uses it but everyone I know has Facebook and with messenger and you can chat, call, and video message. So why go out of the way to download a redundant app like whatsapp? I've been on cruises, overseas many times and I either pay Verizon $10 a day for the roaming or if long term, I buy a sim card just for data. All voice calls I do over Facebook, our office voip through an android app, or slack. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 4:28 PM SmarterBroadband Mark, you can do $10 a day for the convenience > > Adam > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka > Technologies > *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:49 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use > > > > Bill, > > Yeah, that's verizon's pay as you go rate. $10/day adds up quick. Doing > some research, I can get some European data only sim's for about $35 for 30 > days with about 8GB of data. 8GB should be good enough for keeping up to > date with whatsapp and basic web surfing. > Guess I can check my voicemail and get texts on my main number when I'm > near WiFi. I do have a Boingo account I rarely use. I think they have an > App the will detect and automatically connect to their hotspots. Thinking > between that, public WiFi and a data only SIM, I should be reachable most > of the time. > > > -- > Best regards, > Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.MyakkaTech.com > > -- > > Thursday, January 24, 2019, 4:26:21 PM, you wrote: > > Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent > 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day > for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, > but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money > on. > > -- > bp > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough wrote: > > I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have > been the included international roaming data connection has worked > descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other > options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service > would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim > cards and service. > > On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > > calling. > > > > Anybody ever try this? > > > > -- > > > > Thanks, > > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > > www.MyakkaTech.com > > > > > -- > > Trey Scarborough > VP Engineering > 3DS Communications LLC > p:9729741539 > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
Mark, you can do $10 a day for the convenience Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Bill, Yeah, that's verizon's pay as you go rate. $10/day adds up quick. Doing some research, I can get some European data only sim's for about $35 for 30 days with about 8GB of data. 8GB should be good enough for keeping up to date with whatsapp and basic web surfing. Guess I can check my voicemail and get texts on my main number when I'm near WiFi. I do have a Boingo account I rarely use. I think they have an App the will detect and automatically connect to their hotspots. Thinking between that, public WiFi and a data only SIM, I should be reachable most of the time. -- Best regards, Mark <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. <http://www.MyakkaTech.com> www.MyakkaTech.com -- Thursday, January 24, 2019, 4:26:21 PM, you wrote: Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money on. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough < <mailto:t...@3dsc.co> t...@3dsc.co> wrote: I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have been the included international roaming data connection has worked descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim cards and service. On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > calling. > > Anybody ever try this? > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto: <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> > m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > <http://www.MyakkaTech.com> www.MyakkaTech.com > > -- Trey Scarborough VP Engineering 3DS Communications LLC p:9729741539 -- AF mailing list <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> AF@af.afmug.com <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
Title: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Ken, Was on a Royal Caribbean Cruise over the New Year. Signed up for their ship Internet package and used WiFi calling. Didn't have any issues. Texts worked find and I had no problem dialing into my voice mail to check messages. -- Best regards, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Thursday, January 24, 2019, 4:49:52 PM, you wrote: Somebody mentioned WiFi calling, does that really work OK for you, even domestically? I don’t use it, but the only time I hear it mentioned is when a WISP customer calls complaining about WiFi calling, usually dropped or one-way calls, but that everything else on their Internet connection is fine. For whatever reason, they usually seem to have a Sprint phone. My conclusion was that WiFi calling must not be very reliable, so please stop calling your ISP about it. It seems like people were using it at their house rather than get a microcell. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:26 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money on. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough <t...@3dsc.co> wrote: I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have been the included international roaming data connection has worked descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim cards and service. On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > calling. > > Anybody ever try this? > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.MyakkaTech.com > > -- Trey Scarborough VP Engineering 3DS Communications LLC p:9729741539 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
I have ATT and do the $10 a day thing. It then uses whatever plan you have in the USA for calls and data. I like to have a working phone and data. Make calls, send texts, use nav, all easy and no worries. Adam -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 12:39 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] International cell phone use I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. We are able to communicate with no issues. When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi calling. Anybody ever try this? -- Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
Use wifi calling all the time now with Google Fi. Work, home, everywhere. It roams on and off it pretty damn well too. My experience with Verizon's implementation left a lot to be desired because they mostly preferred the cell phone network, even when you obviously didn't have a reliable connection. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 3:51 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Somebody mentioned WiFi calling, does that really work OK for you, even > domestically? > > > > I don’t use it, but the only time I hear it mentioned is when a WISP > customer calls complaining about WiFi calling, usually dropped or one-way > calls, but that everything else on their Internet connection is fine. For > whatever reason, they usually seem to have a Sprint phone. My conclusion > was that WiFi calling must not be very reliable, so please stop calling > your ISP about it. It seems like people were using it at their house > rather than get a microcell. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:26 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use > > > > Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent > 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day > for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, > but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money > on. > > > -- > > bp > > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough wrote: > > I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have > been the included international roaming data connection has worked > descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other > options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service > would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim > cards and service. > > On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > > calling. > > > > Anybody ever try this? > > > > -- > > > > Thanks, > > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > > www.MyakkaTech.com > > > > > -- > > Trey Scarborough > VP Engineering > 3DS Communications LLC > p:9729741539 > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
Somebody mentioned WiFi calling, does that really work OK for you, even domestically? I don’t use it, but the only time I hear it mentioned is when a WISP customer calls complaining about WiFi calling, usually dropped or one-way calls, but that everything else on their Internet connection is fine. For whatever reason, they usually seem to have a Sprint phone. My conclusion was that WiFi calling must not be very reliable, so please stop calling your ISP about it. It seems like people were using it at their house rather than get a microcell. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:26 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money on. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough mailto:t...@3dsc.co> > wrote: I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have been the included international roaming data connection has worked descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim cards and service. On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > calling. > > Anybody ever try this? > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.MyakkaTech.com <http://www.MyakkaTech.com> > > -- Trey Scarborough VP Engineering 3DS Communications LLC p:9729741539 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
Title: Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use Bill, Yeah, that's verizon's pay as you go rate. $10/day adds up quick. Doing some research, I can get some European data only sim's for about $35 for 30 days with about 8GB of data. 8GB should be good enough for keeping up to date with whatsapp and basic web surfing. Guess I can check my voicemail and get texts on my main number when I'm near WiFi. I do have a Boingo account I rarely use. I think they have an App the will detect and automatically connect to their hotspots. Thinking between that, public WiFi and a data only SIM, I should be reachable most of the time. -- Best regards, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Thursday, January 24, 2019, 4:26:21 PM, you wrote: Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money on. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough <t...@3dsc.co> wrote: I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have been the included international roaming data connection has worked descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim cards and service. On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > calling. > > Anybody ever try this? > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.MyakkaTech.com > > -- Trey Scarborough VP Engineering 3DS Communications LLC p:9729741539 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
Whatever you do, be sure to explore your options. A friend who just spent 3 weeks in Australia & had not really looked into the options spent $10/day for cell service while there. 21 x $10 =$210. I guess that's not horrible, but I tend to think about what else I might have wanted to spend that money on. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Trey Scarborough wrote: > I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have > been the included international roaming data connection has worked > descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other > options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service > would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim > cards and service. > > On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > > I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been > > recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm > > trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. > > > > So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use > > whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. > > We are able to communicate with no issues. > > > > When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my > > current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past > > using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. > > > > So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be > > no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but > > with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? > > Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi > > calling. > > > > Anybody ever try this? > > > > -- > > > > Thanks, > > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > > www.MyakkaTech.com > > > > > -- > > Trey Scarborough > VP Engineering > 3DS Communications LLC > p:9729741539 > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
I have T-mobile one account and use whatsapp mainly. Everywhere I have been the included international roaming data connection has worked descent enough with Whatsapp that I really never looked at any other options. The additional I pay for the One on top of the regular service would probably equal the same as what it would be for a couple of sim cards and service. On 1/24/2019 2:38 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. We are able to communicate with no issues. When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi calling. Anybody ever try this? -- Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Trey Scarborough VP Engineering 3DS Communications LLC p:9729741539 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
I just use my iPhone with its AT account. I call AT and have them turn on international calling. Never had a problem. International data is spendy. -Original Message- From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:38 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] International cell phone use I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. We are able to communicate with no issues. When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi calling. Anybody ever try this? -- Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] International cell phone use
Move to Google Fi and you can large be done with worrying about international phone usage. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 2:38:48 PM Subject: [AFMUG] International cell phone use I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. We are able to communicate with no issues. When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi calling. Anybody ever try this? -- Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] International cell phone use
I know Chuck has been overseas and maybe some of you others have been recently. Last time I was overseas there were no cell phones. I'm trying to figure out my best option for cell phone usage. So far looks like my best option is to get a data only sim and use whatsapp. That seems to be working fine for my daughter right now. We are able to communicate with no issues. When I connect to WiFi, I should be able to use WiFi calling with my current number to call back to the states if needed. In the past using WiFi calling, seems that texts will work also. So, here is the crazy part. If I get a data only SIM, there will be no voice connection. Almost like my phone being in airplane mode, but with data enabled. Will the WiFi calling work on the data only plan? Will it detect I have data, but no voice and fail over to WiFi calling. Anybody ever try this? -- Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com