Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

[Mitch Koep]

http://aruljohn.com/


On 04/21/2017 04:43 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor lookup that is 
current?

I want to look up several MAC addresses from customers devices and match them 
up with vendor.

Can't seem to find a vendor for ones that begin with this 34:97:F6:98:D3:08.





--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] OT Mad cow

[Jaime Solorza]

Tecate cures all Actually I have been pretty healthy for a 61 year old
fartAnd of course  Hiking

On Apr 21, 2017 6:41 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> All those artificial sweeteners will kill you and/or give you type 2
> diabetes. Besides; they all taste metallic or something. I can't stand
> them. Just give me plain coffee with a dab of cream, or plain spiced tea.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 4/21/2017 2:51 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> So if my diet coke zero is going to give me strokes and dementia now
> what the heck am I going to drink all day long?
> Don’t like sugared soda but like sweet drinks.  Sugar is not a friend of
> my A1C either.  I want the caffeine in the morning.
>
> Sweet, caffeinated, carbonated, but no artificial sweetener, and no sugar,
> and no sucralose beverage.
>
> Please bring back saccharine.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] power in California

[Bill Prince]

You should listen to S-Town Jay... Not that terribly far from you.


bp


On 4/21/2017 2:23 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

news to us from over here in the east...ok, the south lol

- Original Message -
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 4:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] power in California

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 3:12 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] power in California

San Francisco ≠ California

bp


On 4/21/2017 1:18 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/massive-power-outage-hits-san-francisco-shuts-down-businesses-bart-station-traffic-lights/ar-BBA84Jm?li=BBnb7Kz=iehp
just heard about it on the radio
(i listen to way too much talk radio)

- Original Message -
*From:* Bill Prince
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 3:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] power in California

Huh?

bp


On 4/21/2017 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

�
who forgot to pay the bill?
�

Re: [AFMUG] OT Mad cow

[Bill Prince]

All those artificial sweeteners will kill you and/or give you type 2 
diabetes. Besides; they all taste metallic or something. I can't stand 
them. Just give me plain coffee with a dab of cream, or plain spiced tea.



bp


On 4/21/2017 2:51 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
So if my diet coke zero is going to give me strokes and dementia 
now what the heck am I going to drink all day long?
Don’t like sugared soda but like sweet drinks.  Sugar is not a friend 
of my A1C either.  I want the caffeine in the morning.
Sweet, caffeinated, carbonated, but no artificial sweetener, and no 
sugar, and no sucralose beverage.

Please bring back saccharine.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Mad cow

[Steve Jones]

You dont want to know what i send them in that jar weekly to make that stuff

On Apr 21, 2017 5:43 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> They make soda flavored with stevia.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ZK6KUUY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_
> it?ie=UTF8=1492814604=8-1=zevia
>
> - Josh
>
> On Apr 21, 2017 4:51 PM,  wrote:
>
>> So if my diet coke zero is going to give me strokes and dementia now
>> what the heck am I going to drink all day long?
>> Don’t like sugared soda but like sweet drinks.  Sugar is not a friend of
>> my A1C either.  I want the caffeine in the morning.
>>
>> Sweet, caffeinated, carbonated, but no artificial sweetener, and no
>> sugar, and no sucralose beverage.
>>
>> Please bring back saccharine.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

[Sean Heskett]

http://aruljohn.com/mac.pl

-sean


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:43 PM Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor lookup that is
> current?
>
> I want to look up several MAC addresses from customers devices and match
> them up with vendor.
>
> Can't seem to find a vendor for ones that begin with this
> 34:97:F6:98:D3:08.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] router speak

[Josh Reynolds]

Ipsec on the edgerouter is hardware accelerated and very juniper like in
it's configuration.

- Josh

On Apr 21, 2017 1:24 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> What about OpenVPN?  Would that work?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Dave  wrote:
>
>> Looks like the R201P only does pptp and l2tp no ipsec
>>
>>
>> On 04/21/2017 10:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't DDWRT do this?  If so, R200/R201.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>
>>> Ok,
>>>  to make a long story short. I am looking for a router (cheap-mid
>>> priced) that will do a site to site vpn using Ikev2 and voip.
>>>
>>> The issue is that Mikrotik currently doesnt support Ikev2 but it handles
>>> the voip fine so a sonic wall had to be placed into the mix to handle the
>>> vpn.
>>> Not a big deal if we had vlans setup on this tower but we do not. So, I
>>> had to create a bridge for the WAN port and plug the modem and sonicwall
>>> WAN port into it. This is not good design. Which brings me here to see if
>>> there is decent router that would do both?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

[George Skorup]

macvendors.com works for me.

On 4/21/2017 5:36 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:


Thanks all that does help.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 4:25 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

I switch between them, it seems they dont all reference the same 
database, wiresharks is pretty reliable though


On Apr 21, 2017 4:57 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" > wrote:


Sterling,

  34:97:F6 ASUSTek COMPUTER INC.

  From https://www.wireshark.org/tools/oui-lookup.html




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Friday, April 21, 2017, 5:43:52 PM, you wrote:

SJ> Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor
lookup that is current?

SJ> I want to look up several MAC addresses from customers devices
and match them up with vendor.

SJ> Can't seem to find a vendor for ones that begin with this
34:97:F6:98:D3:08.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Mad cow

[Chuck McCown]

Yeah, I  have a carbonator.  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Mad cow

They make soda flavored with stevia. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ZK6KUUY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8=1492814604=8-1=zevia


- Josh

On Apr 21, 2017 4:51 PM,  wrote:

  So if my diet coke zero is going to give me strokes and dementia now what 
the heck am I going to drink all day long?
  Don’t like sugared soda but like sweet drinks.  Sugar is not a friend of my 
A1C either.  I want the caffeine in the morning.  

  Sweet, caffeinated, carbonated, but no artificial sweetener, and no sugar, 
and no sucralose beverage.  

  Please bring back saccharine.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT Mad cow

[Josh Reynolds]

They make soda flavored with stevia.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ZK6KUUY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8=1492814604=8-1=zevia

- Josh

On Apr 21, 2017 4:51 PM,  wrote:

> So if my diet coke zero is going to give me strokes and dementia now
> what the heck am I going to drink all day long?
> Don’t like sugared soda but like sweet drinks.  Sugar is not a friend of
> my A1C either.  I want the caffeine in the morning.
>
> Sweet, caffeinated, carbonated, but no artificial sweetener, and no sugar,
> and no sucralose beverage.
>
> Please bring back saccharine.
>

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

[Sterling Jacobson]

Thanks all that does help.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

I switch between them, it seems they dont all reference the same database, 
wiresharks is pretty reliable though

On Apr 21, 2017 4:57 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
> wrote:
Sterling,

  34:97:F6 ASUSTek COMPUTER INC.

  From  https://www.wireshark.org/tools/oui-lookup.html



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 Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com

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Friday, April 21, 2017, 5:43:52 PM, you wrote:

SJ> Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor lookup that is 
current?

SJ> I want to look up several MAC addresses from customers devices and match 
them up with vendor.

SJ> Can't seem to find a vendor for ones that begin with this 34:97:F6:98:D3:08.

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

[Steve Jones]

I switch between them, it seems they dont all reference the same database,
wiresharks is pretty reliable though

On Apr 21, 2017 4:57 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
wrote:

> Sterling,
>
>   34:97:F6 ASUSTek COMPUTER INC.
>
>   From  https://www.wireshark.org/tools/oui-lookup.html
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>
> Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
> --
>
> Friday, April 21, 2017, 5:43:52 PM, you wrote:
>
> SJ> Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor lookup that
> is current?
>
> SJ> I want to look up several MAC addresses from customers devices and
> match them up with vendor.
>
> SJ> Can't seem to find a vendor for ones that begin with this
> 34:97:F6:98:D3:08.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] So pretty

[Steve Jones]

Well i verified it stays consistent gigabit when bypassed or through a
600ss i had on hand (100mbs there) grounded or not it would keep
renegotiation unless it settled on 100mbps then it seemed stable. I took
the gig out of the mikrotik and it stabilized at 100mbps consistently, its
20mhz channels so i dont need gige anyway and everything else is fine, even
the force200 which is consistently running at gige.
Its 250 foot bbdge, and the terminations into the keystones are awful, with
exposed twistsone very small component in this carnival of clusterfucks
at the site. Once they come back and fix that and all the other
shennanigans, i may revisit it, but not to worried, ill never be running
the epmp2000 at more than 20mhz channels anyway.

On Apr 21, 2017 3:16 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

Rev D I believe only fixed sync over POE.  I don't remember there ever
being an issue with ethernet (ie 100M, 1G).


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:

> Rev D is the latest, has been tested with all the Cambium products, with
> Netonix an with Forrest’s stuff.
>
> But ePMP has issues at times no matter what you do.  You can always pull
> them most of the way out of the rack to see if grounding is part of the
> problem.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 12:43 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] So pretty
>
> Im dealing with a clusterfuck of clusterfucks at a site, but at least this
> is pretty
>
>
> But the question is for clarification on flapping ethernets with cambium,
> the gigeapc and powerinjectors, this rev d should or should not see this
> issue?
>

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Sterling,

  34:97:F6 ASUSTek COMPUTER INC.

  From  https://www.wireshark.org/tools/oui-lookup.html



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Friday, April 21, 2017, 5:43:52 PM, you wrote:

SJ> Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor lookup that is 
current?

SJ> I want to look up several MAC addresses from customers devices and match 
them up with vendor.

SJ> Can't seem to find a vendor for ones that begin with this 34:97:F6:98:D3:08.

[AFMUG] OT Mad cow

[chuck]

So if my diet coke zero is going to give me strokes and dementia now what 
the heck am I going to drink all day long?
Don’t like sugared soda but like sweet drinks.  Sugar is not a friend of my A1C 
either.  I want the caffeine in the morning.  

Sweet, caffeinated, carbonated, but no artificial sweetener, and no sugar, and 
no sucralose beverage.  

Please bring back saccharine.  

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

[Darren Shea]

Makes sense...

"The original IEEE 802 MAC address comes from the original Xerox Ethernet
addressing scheme.[3] This 48-bit address space contains potentially 248 or
281,474,976,710,656 possible MAC addresses." - from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

Didn't Xerox originally own all of them?  Seems like I got a block many
years ago from them.

-Original Message-
From: Darren Shea
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

I use this one: https://www.adminsub.net/?sc0=3

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:44 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor lookup that is
current?

I want to look up several MAC addresses from customers devices and match
them up with vendor.

Can't seem to find a vendor for ones that begin with this 34:97:F6:98:D3:08.

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

[chuck]

Didn't Xerox originally own all of them?  Seems like I got a block many 
years ago from them.


-Original Message- 
From: Darren Shea

Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

I use this one: https://www.adminsub.net/?sc0=3

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:44 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor lookup that is
current?

I want to look up several MAC addresses from customers devices and match
them up with vendor.

Can't seem to find a vendor for ones that begin with this 34:97:F6:98:D3:08.

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

[Darren Shea]

I use this one: https://www.adminsub.net/?sc0=3

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:44 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor lookup that is
current?

I want to look up several MAC addresses from customers devices and match
them up with vendor.

Can't seem to find a vendor for ones that begin with this 34:97:F6:98:D3:08.

[AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

[Sterling Jacobson]

Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor lookup that is 
current?

I want to look up several MAC addresses from customers devices and match them 
up with vendor.

Can't seem to find a vendor for ones that begin with this 34:97:F6:98:D3:08.

Re: [AFMUG] power in California

[Jason Wilson]

No issues in the good part of California  We do not claim the Bay area
or any thing south of the grapevine as being California.

On Apr 21, 2017 2:23 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> news to us from over here in the east...ok, the south lol
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 4:14 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] power in California
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 3:12 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] power in California
>
>
> San Francisco ≠ California
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 4/21/2017 1:18 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/massive-power-outage-hits-
> san-francisco-shuts-down-businesses-bart-station-
> traffic-lights/ar-BBA84Jm?li=BBnb7Kz=iehp
>
> just heard about it on the radio
>
> (i listen to way too much talk radio)
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 3:14 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] power in California
>
>
> Huh?
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 4/21/2017 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
> �
> who forgot to pay the bill?
> �
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium email always goes to google spam folder

[Mathew Howard]

I setup a filter in gmail to never send anything marked as [AFMUG] to
spam... which solves that problem.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Their emails are failing both DKIM and DMARC which will get dumped into
> spam folders by most properly configured smtp daemons these days.
>
> Delivered-To: eric.kuh...@gmail.com
> Received: by 10.28.226.67 with SMTP id z64csp816304wmg;
> Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:06:57 -0700 (PDT)
> X-Received: by 10.237.52.162 with SMTP id x31mr8468358qtd.263.1492700816946;
> Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:06:56 -0700 (PDT)
> Return-Path: 
> <0100015b8be6d463-48b53036-885a-4455-b802-78aa24c4fad7-000...@amazonses.com>
> Received: from a11-65.smtp-out.amazonses.com (a11-65.smtp-out.amazonses.com. 
> [54.240.11.65])
> by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 
> j94si6107816qtd.326.2017.04.20.08.06.53
> (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128);
> Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:06:56 -0700 (PDT)
> Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of 
> 0100015b8be6d463-48b53036-885a-4455-b802-78aa24c4fad7-000...@amazonses.com 
> designates 54.240.11.65 as permitted sender) client-ip=54.240.11.65;
> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>dkim=pass header.i=@amazonses.com;
>dkim=fail header.i=@cambiumnetworks.com;
>spf=pass (google.com: domain of 
> 0100015b8be6d463-48b53036-885a-4455-b802-78aa24c4fad7-000...@amazonses.com 
> designates 54.240.11.65 as permitted sender) 
> smtp.mailfrom=0100015b8be6d463-48b53036-885a-4455-b802-78aa24c4fad7-000...@amazonses.com;
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> header.from=cambiumnetworks.com
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> From: Ray Savich 
> To: "'af@afmug.com'" 
> Thread-Topic: cnPilot WiFi event May 16
> Thread-Index: AdK557rrVFEH6YX2R9q5t08EyX62FA==
> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:06:52 +
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> Accept-Language: en-US
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> X-MS-Has-Attach:
> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
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Re: [AFMUG] OT New Insult

[chuck]

I think it is referring to the snowflakes that suppress speech of people with 
opinions different than them.  

The bastion of liberalism, defenders of all human rights, suppress free speech 
if it hurts their feelers. 

Irony

OK, this is getting too political  sorry, back to Lent.  



From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 3:19 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT New Insult

my brother in law (RIP) got his Masters from Berkeley ...was an English 
professor

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Jaime Solorza  
wrote:

  thought


  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390


  On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Jaime Solorza  
wrote:

Mighty white of you to me was condescending quip at someone who though he 
was better or smarter than me


Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:14 PM,  wrote:

  Heard a new one today:
  “How Berkeley of you”  I guess this replaces calling someone a snowflake?


  My grandparents would occasionally say “how white of him”.  It always 
confused me.  

  Growing up in North Central Oregon, the only people that had more melanin 
than me were mostly Indians, which were my buddies, Latinos in the summer for 
fruit picking and one guy of Japanese descent.  He owned the local TV and Radio 
repair store and I spent many hours just hanging around there as a kid and 
learned a bunch of stuff.  So logically I never understood as a kid what they 
were saying.  I never equated white to decent or fair which is what I think 
they were saying.  As a matter of fact, melanin enhanced folk never caused me a 
moment of grief, always white folks.  

Re: [AFMUG] power in California

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

news to us from over here in the east...ok, the south lol

  - Original Message - 
  From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] power in California


  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 3:12 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] power in California

  San Francisco ≠ California


bp


On 4/21/2017 1:18 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:




http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/massive-power-outage-hits-san-francisco-shuts-down-businesses-bart-station-traffic-lights/ar-BBA84Jm?li=BBnb7Kz=iehp

just heard about it on the radio

(i listen to way too much talk radio)


  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Prince 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 3:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] power in California

  Huh?


bp


On 4/21/2017 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

�
who forgot to pay the bill?
�

Re: [AFMUG] OT New Insult

[Jaime Solorza]

my brother in law (RIP) got his Masters from Berkeley ...was an English
professor

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> thought
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Mighty white of you to me was condescending quip at someone who though he
>> was better or smarter than me
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:14 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Heard a new one today:
>>> “How Berkeley of you”  I guess this replaces calling someone a snowflake?
>>>
>>>
>>> My grandparents would occasionally say “how white of him”.  It always
>>> confused me.
>>>
>>> Growing up in North Central Oregon, the only people that had more
>>> melanin than me were mostly Indians, which were my buddies, Latinos in the
>>> summer for fruit picking and one guy of Japanese descent.  He owned the
>>> local TV and Radio repair store and I spent many hours just hanging around
>>> there as a kid and learned a bunch of stuff.  So logically I never
>>> understood as a kid what they were saying.  I never equated white to decent
>>> or fair which is what I think they were saying.  As a matter of fact,
>>> melanin enhanced folk never caused me a moment of grief, always white
>>> folks.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] power in California

[chuck]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 3:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] power in California

San Francisco ≠ California


bp


On 4/21/2017 1:18 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:



  
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/massive-power-outage-hits-san-francisco-shuts-down-businesses-bart-station-traffic-lights/ar-BBA84Jm?li=BBnb7Kz=iehp

  just heard about it on the radio

  (i listen to way too much talk radio)


- Original Message - 
From: Bill Prince 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] power in California

Huh?


bp


On 4/21/2017 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

  �
  who forgot to pay the bill?
  �

Re: [AFMUG] power in California

[Bill Prince]

San Francisco ≠ California

bp


On 4/21/2017 1:18 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/massive-power-outage-hits-san-francisco-shuts-down-businesses-bart-station-traffic-lights/ar-BBA84Jm?li=BBnb7Kz=iehp
just heard about it on the radio
(i listen to way too much talk radio)

- Original Message -
*From:* Bill Prince 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 3:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] power in California

Huh?

bp


On 4/21/2017 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

�
who forgot to pay the bill?
�

Re: [AFMUG] OT New Insult

[Jaime Solorza]

thought

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Mighty white of you to me was condescending quip at someone who though he
> was better or smarter than me
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:14 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Heard a new one today:
>> “How Berkeley of you”  I guess this replaces calling someone a snowflake?
>>
>>
>> My grandparents would occasionally say “how white of him”.  It always
>> confused me.
>>
>> Growing up in North Central Oregon, the only people that had more melanin
>> than me were mostly Indians, which were my buddies, Latinos in the summer
>> for fruit picking and one guy of Japanese descent.  He owned the local TV
>> and Radio repair store and I spent many hours just hanging around there as
>> a kid and learned a bunch of stuff.  So logically I never understood as a
>> kid what they were saying.  I never equated white to decent or fair which
>> is what I think they were saying.  As a matter of fact, melanin enhanced
>> folk never caused me a moment of grief, always white folks.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT New Insult

[Jaime Solorza]

Mighty white of you to me was condescending quip at someone who though he
was better or smarter than me

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:14 PM,  wrote:

> Heard a new one today:
> “How Berkeley of you”  I guess this replaces calling someone a snowflake?
>
>
> My grandparents would occasionally say “how white of him”.  It always
> confused me.
>
> Growing up in North Central Oregon, the only people that had more melanin
> than me were mostly Indians, which were my buddies, Latinos in the summer
> for fruit picking and one guy of Japanese descent.  He owned the local TV
> and Radio repair store and I spent many hours just hanging around there as
> a kid and learned a bunch of stuff.  So logically I never understood as a
> kid what they were saying.  I never equated white to decent or fair which
> is what I think they were saying.  As a matter of fact, melanin enhanced
> folk never caused me a moment of grief, always white folks.
>

Re: [AFMUG] power in California

[Josh Luthman]

Californians be like "what's a four way stop"


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:18 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
>
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/massive-power-outage-hits-
> san-francisco-shuts-down-businesses-bart-station-
> traffic-lights/ar-BBA84Jm?li=BBnb7Kz=iehp
>
> just heard about it on the radio
>
> (i listen to way too much talk radio)
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Bill Prince 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 3:14 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] power in California
>
> Huh?
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 4/21/2017 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
> �
> who forgot to pay the bill?
> �
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CAF2

[Eric Muehleisen]

https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/maps/caf-2-auction-preliminary-areas/

http://fcc.github.io/caf-2-final-areas-map/

Both maps seem to contradict each other in spots.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> I think this map is for the CAF-II reverse auction, which is for areas
> that did not qualify for CAF-II funding.  So maybe that was only the case
> in certain states? Mark originally posted this, he would probably be able
> to tell you.
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:08 PM,  wrote:
>
>> I wonder why some states are totally clear.  Is it a lack of data or is
>> this thing exhaustively accurate?
>>
>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 2:06 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CAF2
>>
>> http://maps.wispa.org/
>>
>> On Friday, April 21, 2017, SmarterBroadband  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have a link to where I can find a list of eligible Census
>>> Blocks?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 48V Meanwell UPS?

[George Skorup]

The only good reason for the remote control link is so that the BCM can 
control the PS output voltage for battery temp compensation. The BCM 
also instructs the PS to shut down when you hit the off switch. That's 
all there is to it.


I could never get the BCM48 to limit charging current. It's possible 
that the one I have has some kind of issue, but Ken said he saw the same 
thing on his.


The BCMU360 and an SDR-240-48 combo is cheaper and works fine for me. 
But like I've said before, just be aware that the BCMU is only good for 
~240 watts continuous. I have several running 200-220 watts of real load.


Yes, it would be nice if Mean Well made the UPS40 in 48v. I know the 
charging current limiter on that thing actually works.


On 4/21/2017 10:21 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
Looking for a UPS to complement a Meanwell SDR-240-48.  I see the 
DR-UPS40, but it's only 24V.


Is there a 48V model?  I have several Traco BCM48's, but I don't know 
if they will work with the Meanwell PSU since it lacks the 'control 
link' or whatever Traco uses between the TSP and BCM.


Josh

Re: [AFMUG] CAF2

[Jason McKemie]

I think this map is for the CAF-II reverse auction, which is for areas that
did not qualify for CAF-II funding.  So maybe that was only the case in
certain states? Mark originally posted this, he would probably be able to
tell you.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:08 PM,  wrote:

> I wonder why some states are totally clear.  Is it a lack of data or is
> this thing exhaustively accurate?
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 2:06 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CAF2
>
> http://maps.wispa.org/
>
> On Friday, April 21, 2017, SmarterBroadband  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a link to where I can find a list of eligible Census
>> Blocks?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] power in California

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/massive-power-outage-hits-san-francisco-shuts-down-businesses-bart-station-traffic-lights/ar-BBA84Jm?li=BBnb7Kz=iehp

just heard about it on the radio

(i listen to way too much talk radio)


  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Prince 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 3:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] power in California


  Huh?


bp


On 4/21/2017 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

�
who forgot to pay the bill?
�

Re: [AFMUG] So pretty

[Josh Luthman]

Rev D I believe only fixed sync over POE.  I don't remember there ever
being an issue with ethernet (ie 100M, 1G).


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:

> Rev D is the latest, has been tested with all the Cambium products, with
> Netonix an with Forrest’s stuff.
>
> But ePMP has issues at times no matter what you do.  You can always pull
> them most of the way out of the rack to see if grounding is part of the
> problem.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 12:43 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] So pretty
>
> Im dealing with a clusterfuck of clusterfucks at a site, but at least this
> is pretty
>
>
> But the question is for clarification on flapping ethernets with cambium,
> the gigeapc and powerinjectors, this rev d should or should not see this
> issue?
>

[AFMUG] OT New Insult

[chuck]

Heard a new one today:
“How Berkeley of you”  I guess this replaces calling someone a snowflake?


My grandparents would occasionally say “how white of him”.  It always confused 
me.  

Growing up in North Central Oregon, the only people that had more melanin than 
me were mostly Indians, which were my buddies, Latinos in the summer for fruit 
picking and one guy of Japanese descent.  He owned the local TV and Radio 
repair store and I spent many hours just hanging around there as a kid and 
learned a bunch of stuff.  So logically I never understood as a kid what they 
were saying.  I never equated white to decent or fair which is what I think 
they were saying.  As a matter of fact, melanin enhanced folk never caused me a 
moment of grief, always white folks.  

Re: [AFMUG] power in California

[Bill Prince]

Huh?

bp


On 4/21/2017 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

who forgot to pay the bill?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

[George Skorup]

If it looks suspect, take a picture, open a support case and request RMA.

On 4/21/2017 9:43 AM, David Coudron wrote:


We have received a bunch of new 3.5 GHz 450i APs.   5 of these were 
integrated configurations, but one was connectorized.  There is a 
noticeable gap in the middle of the top where the faceplate seals to 
the backing very similar to the pictures shared here, but it is not as 
dramatic.   It is difficult to determine if that is merely a cosmetic 
anomaly or actually extends past the seal and will allow water into 
the case.   Based on the conversation here, we are likely going to 
seal the entire seam around the unit the same way we do the 
connectors, vinyl tape covered with Monkey tape.   Anyone see any 
issues with that?


We haven’t looked at the integrated ones yet, those are up next for 
inspection.


Thanks,

*David Coudron*

david.coud...@advantenon.com |*Mobile: 
*612-991-7474


*Advantenon, Inc. 
*cid:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0cid:image002.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0cid:image003.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0cid:image004.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0


i...@advantenon.com |3500 Vicksburg Lane 
N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 
55447 |www.advantenon.com |*Phone:*800-704-4720 |*Local: 
*612-454-1545


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Hopkins
*Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 3:05 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Yes.



Matt Hopkins
Network Administrator
503.687.1030
supp...@onlinenw.com 
onlinenw.com 

On 4/20/2017 12:09 PM, George Skorup wrote:

So just to be clear, you had a second radio like this that was new
and never deployed?

We've had our share of water intrusion issues with regular 450
APs. Cases where it was clearly a manufacturing/assembly issue,
Cambium has made it right regardless of warranty status.

On 4/20/2017 1:42 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:

Cambium has reached out to me and are going to look into this
issue on their end. They are also making it right by us and
replacing both units. I have no reason to believe that this is
a widespread problem. We use a ton of Cambium equipment and
for the most part we are very happy with it's performance. I
simply wanted to help the community by spreading awareness of
a potential issue that is easy to spot before being deployed.
Thank you Matt and Chuck at Cambium for helping out.



Matt Hopkins
Network Administrator
503.687.1030
supp...@onlinenw.com 
onlinenw.com 

On 4/20/2017 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Yeah, well, that is why AFMUG exists...

*From:*Steve Jones

*Sent:*Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:05 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

I constantly bitch about cambium not being forthright
about a product flaw, but they do tend to ultimately make
things right, even on out of warranty products. i think it
may depend on the engineer involved though

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Adam Moffett
> wrote:

Do you guys think the intrusion is from a bad seal in
the housing, or is it coming in through the cables?

If the unit doesn't have a breather hole equalize air
pressure then it can suck water through the cable like
a straw.

-- Original Message --

From: "Roland Houin" >

To: "afmug" >

Sent: 4/20/2017 10:55:34 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

we had a 450 fail due to water intrusion too.

it was in warranty,

at first they didn't want to cover under warranty,
(said we didn't weatherseal the connectors).

after a bit of complaining they did cover it.

Roland

> We too had a similar issue. 450AP full of water.
We took it apart and drained
it and let sit dry. The AP booted up just fine but
failed a few days later on
the bench. We got the same response. "Out of
warranty".

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Matt Hopkins

Re: [AFMUG] CAF2

[chuck]

I wonder why some states are totally clear.  Is it a lack of data or is this 
thing exhaustively accurate?

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 2:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF2

http://maps.wispa.org/

On Friday, April 21, 2017, SmarterBroadband  wrote:

  Does anyone have a link to where I can find a list of eligible Census Blocks?



  Thanks



  Adam

[AFMUG] power in California

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

who forgot to pay the bill?

Re: [AFMUG] CAF2

[Jason McKemie]

http://maps.wispa.org/

On Friday, April 21, 2017, SmarterBroadband  wrote:

> Does anyone have a link to where I can find a list of eligible Census
> Blocks?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Adam
>

[AFMUG] CAF2

[SmarterBroadband]

Does anyone have a link to where I can find a list of eligible Census
Blocks?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium email always goes to google spam folder

[Eric Kuhnke]

Their emails are failing both DKIM and DMARC which will get dumped into
spam folders by most properly configured smtp daemons these days.

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Re: [AFMUG] So pretty

[chuck]

Rev D is the latest, has been tested with all the Cambium products, with 
Netonix an with Forrest’s stuff.  

But ePMP has issues at times no matter what you do.  You can always pull them 
most of the way out of the rack to see if grounding is part of the problem.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 12:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] So pretty

Im dealing with a clusterfuck of clusterfucks at a site, but at least this is 
pretty 


But the question is for clarification on flapping ethernets with cambium, the 
gigeapc and powerinjectors, this rev d should or should not see this issue?

Re: [AFMUG] router speak

[Josh Luthman]

What about OpenVPN?  Would that work?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Dave  wrote:

> Looks like the R201P only does pptp and l2tp no ipsec
>
>
> On 04/21/2017 10:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Doesn't DDWRT do this?  If so, R200/R201.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Dave  wrote:
>
>> Ok,
>>  to make a long story short. I am looking for a router (cheap-mid priced)
>> that will do a site to site vpn using Ikev2 and voip.
>>
>> The issue is that Mikrotik currently doesnt support Ikev2 but it handles
>> the voip fine so a sonic wall had to be placed into the mix to handle the
>> vpn.
>> Not a big deal if we had vlans setup on this tower but we do not. So, I
>> had to create a bridge for the WAN port and plug the modem and sonicwall
>> WAN port into it. This is not good design. Which brings me here to see if
>> there is decent router that would do both?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>
>
> --
>

Re: [AFMUG] router speak

[Dave]

Looks like the R201P only does pptp and l2tp no ipsec


On 04/21/2017 10:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Doesn't DDWRT do this?  If so, R200/R201.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Dave > wrote:


Ok,
 to make a long story short. I am looking for a router (cheap-mid
priced) that will do a site to site vpn using Ikev2 and voip.

The issue is that Mikrotik currently doesnt support Ikev2 but it
handles the voip fine so a sonic wall had to be placed into the
mix to handle the vpn.
Not a big deal if we had vlans setup on this tower but we do not.
So, I had to create a bridge for the WAN port and plug the modem
and sonicwall WAN port into it. This is not good design. Which
brings me here to see if there is decent router that would do both?



-- 





--

Re: [AFMUG] router speak

[Dave]

Hmm,
 I will put their immortality to the test.. Cuz we are SPARTA!

Come on its Friday!


On 04/21/2017 10:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Doesn't DDWRT do this?  If so, R200/R201.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Dave > wrote:


Ok,
 to make a long story short. I am looking for a router (cheap-mid
priced) that will do a site to site vpn using Ikev2 and voip.

The issue is that Mikrotik currently doesnt support Ikev2 but it
handles the voip fine so a sonic wall had to be placed into the
mix to handle the vpn.
Not a big deal if we had vlans setup on this tower but we do not.
So, I had to create a bridge for the WAN port and plug the modem
and sonicwall WAN port into it. This is not good design. Which
brings me here to see if there is decent router that would do both?



-- 





--

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Josh Luthman]

You're thinking of the Chinese Mafia.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> dirty ghetto thugs always stealin
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> They saw the Powerlink and had to steal the idea.  Like the horns before
>> that.  And the RF armor before that.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So... pretty much an Airgateway installer with an internal battery.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Colin Stanners 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 U-installer... Looks like portable batttery-powered poe injector with
 wifi, so the same thing many companies have made for their installers.
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: "FCC ID Alert" 
 Date: Apr 21, 2017 3:30 AM
 Subject: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment
 To: 
 Cc:

 A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.
> for New Equipment.
> See FCC ID SWX-UINS
> 
> Equipment Authorized: U-Installer
>
> unsubscribe
> 
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Deinstall photos

[Adam Moffett]

Tim something?


-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/21/2017 12:06:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Deinstall photos

Anybody remember the guy in Australia that clamed to be able to sniff 
canopy over the air?  We had a call between him and Chuck M at one of 
the first AnimalFarms.  Not sure if he was also the guy that claimed to 
be able to turn an SM into and AP.


I know I could also do that but it would not survive a reboot.

From:ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 10:02 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Deinstall photos

I remember one wisp that actually borrowed the gear of a competitor 
prior to installing with the consent of the homeowner.  Amazing the 
things that can be learned.


Photos? Heck yes.

On Apr 20, 2017 8:29 PM, "Steve Jones"  
wrote:
I have a specific thing im watching for. Whats the general thought on 
having the tech snap a pic of the new providers gear when he picks up 
our gear? I dont really care about dsl, they always come back, i dont 
care about cellular, they always come back, i dont care about 
satellite, they always come back. I do however care about wisps, as 
it turns out, we really are the shit in what we do. We are like the 
turd that floats in the sceptic tank. So i want to know what gear 
competitors are using, especially if they snatch my customer.

But... Is a picture violating some unwritten rule?

What presses this specific question is an example like today, we 
deinstalled an fsk 900mhz customer in an area where water meters are 
fucking us. The tech tols me the new folks are running gear that 
looks like our epmp, i happen to know theyre using ubnt gear, so im 
not getting accurate field data.


--

Re: [AFMUG] Deinstall photos

[chuck]

Anybody remember the guy in Australia that clamed to be able to sniff canopy 
over the air?  We had a call between him and Chuck M at one of the first 
AnimalFarms.  Not sure if he was also the guy that claimed to be able to turn 
an SM into and AP.  

I know I could also do that but it would not survive a reboot.  

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 10:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Deinstall photos

I remember one wisp that actually borrowed the gear of a competitor prior to 
installing with the consent of the homeowner.  Amazing the things that can be 
learned.  

Photos? Heck yes.  

  On Apr 20, 2017 8:29 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

I have a specific thing im watching for. Whats the general thought on 
having the tech snap a pic of the new providers gear when he picks up our gear? 
I dont really care about dsl, they always come back, i dont care about 
cellular, they always come back, i dont care about satellite, they always come 
back. I do however care about wisps, as it turns out, we really are the shit in 
what we do. We are like the turd that floats in the sceptic tank. So i want to 
know what gear competitors are using, especially if they snatch my customer. 
But... Is a picture violating some unwritten rule?

What presses this specific question is an example like today, we 
deinstalled an fsk 900mhz customer in an area where water meters are fucking 
us. The tech tols me the new folks are running gear that looks like our epmp, i 
happen to know theyre using ubnt gear, so im not getting accurate field data.


-- 

Re: [AFMUG] Deinstall photos

[chuck]

I remember one wisp that actually borrowed the gear of a competitor prior to 
installing with the consent of the homeowner.  Amazing the things that can be 
learned.  

Photos? Heck yes.  

  On Apr 20, 2017 8:29 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

I have a specific thing im watching for. Whats the general thought on 
having the tech snap a pic of the new providers gear when he picks up our gear? 
I dont really care about dsl, they always come back, i dont care about 
cellular, they always come back, i dont care about satellite, they always come 
back. I do however care about wisps, as it turns out, we really are the shit in 
what we do. We are like the turd that floats in the sceptic tank. So i want to 
know what gear competitors are using, especially if they snatch my customer. 
But... Is a picture violating some unwritten rule?

What presses this specific question is an example like today, we 
deinstalled an fsk 900mhz customer in an area where water meters are fucking 
us. The tech tols me the new folks are running gear that looks like our epmp, i 
happen to know theyre using ubnt gear, so im not getting accurate field data.


-- 

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Steve Jones]

dirty ghetto thugs always stealin

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> They saw the Powerlink and had to steal the idea.  Like the horns before
> that.  And the RF armor before that.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> So... pretty much an Airgateway installer with an internal battery.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Colin Stanners 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> U-installer... Looks like portable batttery-powered poe injector with
>>> wifi, so the same thing many companies have made for their installers.
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: "FCC ID Alert" 
>>> Date: Apr 21, 2017 3:30 AM
>>> Subject: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment
>>> To: 
>>> Cc:
>>>
>>> A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.
 for New Equipment.
 See FCC ID SWX-UINS
 
 Equipment Authorized: U-Installer

 unsubscribe
 

>>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] 48V Meanwell UPS?

[Josh Baird]

Looking for a UPS to complement a Meanwell SDR-240-48.  I see the DR-UPS40,
but it's only 24V.

Is there a 48V model?  I have several Traco BCM48's, but I don't know if
they will work with the Meanwell PSU since it lacks the 'control link' or
whatever Traco uses between the TSP and BCM.

Josh

Re: [AFMUG] router speak

[Josh Luthman]

Doesn't DDWRT do this?  If so, R200/R201.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Dave  wrote:

> Ok,
>  to make a long story short. I am looking for a router (cheap-mid priced)
> that will do a site to site vpn using Ikev2 and voip.
>
> The issue is that Mikrotik currently doesnt support Ikev2 but it handles
> the voip fine so a sonic wall had to be placed into the mix to handle the
> vpn.
> Not a big deal if we had vlans setup on this tower but we do not. So, I
> had to create a bridge for the WAN port and plug the modem and sonicwall
> WAN port into it. This is not good design. Which brings me here to see if
> there is decent router that would do both?
>
>
>
> --
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Josh Luthman]

They saw the Powerlink and had to steal the idea.  Like the horns before
that.  And the RF armor before that.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> So... pretty much an Airgateway installer with an internal battery.
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> U-installer... Looks like portable batttery-powered poe injector with
>> wifi, so the same thing many companies have made for their installers.
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: "FCC ID Alert" 
>> Date: Apr 21, 2017 3:30 AM
>> Subject: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment
>> To: 
>> Cc:
>>
>> A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.
>>> for New Equipment.
>>> See FCC ID SWX-UINS
>>> 
>>> Equipment Authorized: U-Installer
>>>
>>> unsubscribe
>>> 
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Deinstall photos

[Josh Luthman]

I don't think we're turds, but you're welcome to your analogy.

It's in plain public view.  You were invited there by the customer to get
your gear.  There's realistically no way you could get harassed for a
picture.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Dave  wrote:

> THE CIRCLE!
>
>
>
> On 04/20/2017 09:43 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Take pictures...Study their strength and weakness...Art of war...I take
> pictures of anything that interests me RF wise.  Have your​ guys take
> detailed pictures without disturbing anythingA little knowledge is a
> dangerous thing.
>
> On Apr 20, 2017 8:29 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>
>> I have a specific thing im watching for. Whats the general thought on
>> having the tech snap a pic of the new providers gear when he picks up our
>> gear? I dont really care about dsl, they always come back, i dont care
>> about cellular, they always come back, i dont care about satellite, they
>> always come back. I do however care about wisps, as it turns out, we really
>> are the shit in what we do. We are like the turd that floats in the sceptic
>> tank. So i want to know what gear competitors are using, especially if they
>> snatch my customer.
>> But... Is a picture violating some unwritten rule?
>>
>> What presses this specific question is an example like today, we
>> deinstalled an fsk 900mhz customer in an area where water meters are
>> fucking us. The tech tols me the new folks are running gear that looks like
>> our epmp, i happen to know theyre using ubnt gear, so im not getting
>> accurate field data.
>>
>
> --
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Mathew Howard]

So... pretty much an Airgateway installer with an internal battery.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> U-installer... Looks like portable batttery-powered poe injector with
> wifi, so the same thing many companies have made for their installers.
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "FCC ID Alert" 
> Date: Apr 21, 2017 3:30 AM
> Subject: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment
> To: 
> Cc:
>
> A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for
>> New Equipment.
>> See FCC ID SWX-UINS
>> 
>> Equipment Authorized: U-Installer
>>
>> unsubscribe
>> 
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

[David Coudron]

We have received a bunch of new 3.5 GHz 450i APs.   5 of these were integrated 
configurations, but one was connectorized.  There is a noticeable gap in the 
middle of the top where the faceplate seals to the backing very similar to the 
pictures shared here, but it is not as dramatic.   It is difficult to determine 
if that is merely a cosmetic anomaly or actually extends past the seal and will 
allow water into the case.   Based on the conversation here, we are likely 
going to seal the entire seam around the unit the same way we do the 
connectors, vinyl tape covered with Monkey tape.   Anyone see any issues with 
that?

We haven’t looked at the integrated ones yet, those are up next for inspection.

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 
612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc. [cid:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] 
   
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[cid:image003.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]    
[cid:image004.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] 
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, 
Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447  |  
www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  
Local: 612-454-1545

[cid:image009.jpg@01D2BA83.A9C2E550]

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hopkins
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 3:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Yes.

[cid:image011.png@01D2BA82.FF7331E0]

Matt Hopkins
Network Administrator
503.687.1030
supp...@onlinenw.com
onlinenw.com


On 4/20/2017 12:09 PM, George Skorup wrote:
So just to be clear, you had a second radio like this that was new and never 
deployed?

We've had our share of water intrusion issues with regular 450 APs. Cases where 
it was clearly a manufacturing/assembly issue, Cambium has made it right 
regardless of warranty status.
On 4/20/2017 1:42 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:
Cambium has reached out to me and are going to look into this issue on their 
end. They are also making it right by us and replacing both units. I have no 
reason to believe that this is a widespread problem. We use a ton of Cambium 
equipment and for the most part we are very happy with it's performance. I 
simply wanted to help the community by spreading awareness of a potential issue 
that is easy to spot before being deployed. Thank you Matt and Chuck at Cambium 
for helping out.

[cid:image011.png@01D2BA82.FF7331E0]

Matt Hopkins
Network Administrator
503.687.1030
supp...@onlinenw.com
onlinenw.com


On 4/20/2017 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Yeah, well, that is why AFMUG exists...

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

I constantly bitch about cambium not being forthright about a product flaw, but 
they do tend to ultimately make things right, even on out of warranty products. 
i think it may depend on the engineer involved though

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Adam Moffett 
> wrote:
Do you guys think the intrusion is from a bad seal in the housing, or is it 
coming in through the cables?

If the unit doesn't have a breather hole equalize air pressure then it can suck 
water through the cable like a straw.


-- Original Message --
From: "Roland Houin" >
To: "afmug" >
Sent: 4/20/2017 10:55:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

we had a 450 fail due to water intrusion too.
it was in warranty,
at first they didn't want to cover under warranty, (said we didn't weatherseal 
the connectors).
after a bit of complaining they did cover it.

Roland



> We too had a similar issue. 450AP full of water. We took it apart and drained
it and let sit dry. The AP booted up just fine but failed a few days later on
the bench. We got the same response. "Out of warranty".

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Matt Hopkins 
> wrote:

We had one of many 450i up on a tower for a little over a year and one day it
was just offline without any warning. We are located in Northwestern Oregon so
we get plenty of rain. Upon investigation the metal case of the radio was not
sealed all the way and water slowly seeped in. The unit was full to the top
with water. By this time Cambium stated that it was out of warranty and we were
burnt. I don't know how many of these units we have in the air are affected.
This one is the only one that has died in such a fashion so far. Prior to this
I wasn't really inspecting these for this issue and would have thought nothing
of it. The seal must be farther inside, right?

Today I was unpacking one new in box 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Class action lawsuit time

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Dave  wrote:

> Whew!
>  Still dodging that bullet.
> I wish MS would stop telling me to log in with my ms account that I have
> not used in 10yrs
>
>
> On 04/21/2017 07:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Friends don't let friends depend on third party e-mail?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:31:13 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i
>
> Why do cambiumnetworks emails get flagged in gmail on the list?
>
> On Apr 20, 2017 8:55 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:
>
>> I was mostly referring to the previous case that was basically problem
>> free vs the new and more expensive case. I like the new standard SM cases
>> though.
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 8:54 PM, David Milholen  wrote:
>>
>> I dont want cheap.. I want security,reliability mil spec design so I can
>> sleep at night.
>>
>> Keeps others in my area from popping up with some cheap "WifI' stuff put
>> lightly and raising the noise floor and baffling with BS.
>>
>> I should DUCK!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/20/2017 3:03 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure why cambium moves to a more expensive design when everyone
>> wants it to be cheaper.
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Dave  wrote:
>>
>> I have 2 in route to them for inspection..
>>
>>
>> On 04/19/2017 07:11 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>
>> I would be surprised if Cambium won't make an out of warranty exception
>> for an obvious defect like that. Looks like some bad casting/machining or
>> assembly. I would ask support to escalate your case.
>>
>> On 4/19/2017 6:33 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:
>>
>> We had one of many 450i up on a tower for a little over a year and
>> one day it was just offline without any warning. We are located in
>> Northwestern Oregon so we get plenty of rain. Upon investigation the metal
>> case of the radio was not sealed all the way and water slowly seeped in.
>> The unit was full to the top with water. By this time Cambium stated that
>> it was out of warranty and we were burnt. I don't know how many of these
>> units we have in the air are affected. This one is the only one that has
>> died in such a fashion so far. Prior to this I wasn't really inspecting
>> these for this issue and would have thought nothing of it. The seal must be
>> farther inside, right?
>>
>> Today I was unpacking one new in box and noticed the very same issue,
>> since now I look for this. We only use the connectorized version so I don't
>> know if this issue is contained or more widespread. Just wanted to throw
>> out a heads up to everyone to keep an eye out for this since I got exactly
>> nowhere with Cambium.
>>
>> I am not trying to pick on Cambium, just bring a recurring issue to
>> light.
>>
>> This is a pic of the fried one that was in service for a year:
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a pic of the brand new one I took out of the box today next to
>> one that looks fine:
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>  Matt Hopkins
>> Network Administrator
>> 503.687.1030 <%28503%29%20687-1030>
>> supp...@onlinenw.com
>> onlinenw.com
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> --
>> 
>>
>>
>> --
>> 
>>
>>
>
> --
>

Re: [AFMUG] Deinstall photos

[Dave]

THE CIRCLE!


On 04/20/2017 09:43 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Take pictures...Study their strength and weakness...Art of war...I 
take pictures of anything that interests me RF wise.  Have your​ guys 
take detailed pictures without disturbing anythingA little 
knowledge is a dangerous thing.


On Apr 20, 2017 8:29 PM, "Steve Jones" > wrote:


I have a specific thing im watching for. Whats the general thought
on having the tech snap a pic of the new providers gear when he
picks up our gear? I dont really care about dsl, they always come
back, i dont care about cellular, they always come back, i dont
care about satellite, they always come back. I do however care
about wisps, as it turns out, we really are the shit in what we
do. We are like the turd that floats in the sceptic tank. So i
want to know what gear competitors are using, especially if they
snatch my customer.
But... Is a picture violating some unwritten rule?

What presses this specific question is an example like today, we
deinstalled an fsk 900mhz customer in an area where water meters
are fucking us. The tech tols me the new folks are running gear
that looks like our epmp, i happen to know theyre using ubnt gear,
so im not getting accurate field data.



--

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

[Dave]

Whew!
 Still dodging that bullet.
I wish MS would stop telling me to log in with my ms account that I have 
not used in 10yrs



On 04/21/2017 07:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Friends don't let friends depend on third party e-mail?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Steve Jones" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:31:13 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Why do cambiumnetworks emails get flagged in gmail on the list?

On Apr 20, 2017 8:55 PM, "Jon Langeler" > wrote:


I was mostly referring to the previous case that was basically
problem free vs the new and more expensive case. I like the new
standard SM cases though.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Apr 20, 2017, at 8:54 PM, David Milholen > wrote:

I dont want cheap.. I want security,reliability mil spec
design so I can sleep at night.

Keeps others in my area from popping up with some cheap "WifI'
stuff put lightly and raising the noise floor and baffling
with BS.

I should DUCK!



On 4/20/2017 3:03 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:

I'm not sure why cambium moves to a more expensive design
when everyone wants it to be cheaper.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Dave > wrote:

I have 2 in route to them for inspection..


On 04/19/2017 07:11 PM, George Skorup wrote:

I would be surprised if Cambium won't make an out
of warranty exception for an obvious defect like
that. Looks like some bad casting/machining or
assembly. I would ask support to escalate your case.

On 4/19/2017 6:33 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:

We had one of many 450i up on a tower for
a little over a year and one day it was just
offline without any warning. We are located in
Northwestern Oregon so we get plenty of rain.
Upon investigation the metal case of the radio
was not sealed all the way and water slowly
seeped in. The unit was full to the top with
water. By this time Cambium stated that it was
out of warranty and we were burnt. I don't
know how many of these units we have in the
air are affected. This one is the only one
that has died in such a fashion so far. Prior
to this I wasn't really inspecting these for
this issue and would have thought nothing of
it. The seal must be farther inside, right?

Today I was unpacking one new in box and
noticed the very same issue, since now I look
for this. We only use the connectorized
version so I don't know if this issue is
contained or more widespread. Just wanted to
throw out a heads up to everyone to keep an
eye out for this since I got exactly nowhere
with Cambium.

I am not trying to pick on Cambium, just
bring a recurring issue to light.

This is a pic of the fried one that was in
service for a year:




This is a pic of the brand new one I took out
of the box today next to one that looks fine:




-- 


 
Matt Hopkins
Network Administrator
503.687.1030 
supp...@onlinenw.com 
onlinenw.com 

[AFMUG] router speak

[Dave]

Ok,
 to make a long story short. I am looking for a router (cheap-mid 
priced) that will do a site to site vpn using Ikev2 and voip.


The issue is that Mikrotik currently doesnt support Ikev2 but it handles 
the voip fine so a sonic wall had to be placed into the mix to handle 
the vpn.
Not a big deal if we had vlans setup on this tower but we do not. So, I 
had to create a bridge for the WAN port and plug the modem and sonicwall 
WAN port into it. This is not good design. Which brings me here to see 
if there is decent router that would do both?




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[AFMUG] Water Swellable Tape in Cables

[Adam Moffett]

Some cables are shown to have a water swellable tape when you look at 
their spec sheets.


Does this stuff actually work?  How does it work?

I put a chunk of cable in a glass of water and didn't see anything 
swelling.  Does it just take a long time?  I was envisioning a tampon 
type of effect, and I'm surprised that nothing visible was happening.

[AFMUG] Fwd: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Colin Stanners]

U-installer... Looks like portable batttery-powered poe injector with wifi,
so the same thing many companies have made for their installers.
-- Forwarded message --
From: "FCC ID Alert" 
Date: Apr 21, 2017 3:30 AM
Subject: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment
To: 
Cc:

A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for
> New Equipment.
> See FCC ID SWX-UINS
> 
> Equipment Authorized: U-Installer
>
> unsubscribe
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

[Mike Hammett]

Friends don't let friends depend on third party e-mail? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Steve Jones"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:31:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 


Why do cambiumnetworks emails get flagged in gmail on the list? 


On Apr 20, 2017 8:55 PM, "Jon Langeler" < jon-ispli...@michwave.net > wrote: 




I was mostly referring to the previous case that was basically problem free vs 
the new and more expensive case. I like the new standard SM cases though. 


Jon Langeler 
Michwave Technologies, Inc. 



On Apr 20, 2017, at 8:54 PM, David Milholen < dmilho...@wletc.com > wrote: 





I dont want cheap.. I want security,reliability mil spec design so I can sleep 
at night. 

Keeps others in my area from popping up with some cheap "WifI' stuff put 
lightly and raising the noise floor and baffling with BS. 
I should DUCK! 



On 4/20/2017 3:03 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: 



I'm not sure why cambium moves to a more expensive design when everyone wants 
it to be cheaper. 


Jon Langeler 
Michwave Technologies, Inc. 



On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Dave < dmilho...@wletc.com > wrote: 




I have 2 in route to them for inspection.. 



On 04/19/2017 07:11 PM, George Skorup wrote: 


I would be surprised if Cambium won't make an out of warranty exception for an 
obvious defect like that. Looks like some bad casting/machining or assembly. I 
would ask support to escalate your case. 


On 4/19/2017 6:33 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote: 


We had one of many 450i up on a tower for a little over a year and one day it 
was just offline without any warning. We are located in Northwestern Oregon so 
we get plenty of rain. Upon investigation the metal case of the radio was not 
sealed all the way and water slowly seeped in. The unit was full to the top 
with water. By this time Cambium stated that it was out of warranty and we were 
burnt. I don't know how many of these units we have in the air are affected. 
This one is the only one that has died in such a fashion so far. Prior to this 
I wasn't really inspecting these for this issue and would have thought nothing 
of it. The seal must be farther inside, right? 

Today I was unpacking one new in box and noticed the very same issue, since now 
I look for this. We only use the connectorized version so I don't know if this 
issue is contained or more widespread. Just wanted to throw out a heads up to 
everyone to keep an eye out for this since I got exactly nowhere with Cambium. 

I am not trying to pick on Cambium, just bring a recurring issue to light. 

This is a pic of the fried one that was in service for a year: 
 



This is a pic of the brand new one I took out of the box today next to one that 
looks fine: 
 




-- 


   Matt Hopkins 
Network Administrator 
503.687.1030 
supp...@onlinenw.com 
onlinenw.com 




 



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