Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber X
Considering the description was for worldwide support, I assume this is for the other 6.8 billion inhabitants of earth… LOL From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber X Yes that would be a shame. I don't think Ubiquiti put in comments in support of the 10 ghz petition so a 10 ghz product would be surprising. On 2/2/2015 1:42 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Well we couldn't yet use that here in the states. Not yet, anyway. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: Keefe John mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com keefe...@ethoplex.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:39:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber X airfiber 10 ghz? On 2/2/2015 1:38 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: Yes. � Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com � From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber X � Anyone have any ideas what it is? On 2/2/2015 1:20 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: Is this being announced at Animal Farm??? �
Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber X
Considering this comes on the heels of the AF24-HD, best guess so far is the radio section of the airFiber5 with external (4x) connectors. It solves the problem of trying to with bigger dishes to get an AF5-HD. Could you imagine trying to hang a dual dish version of this thing with a 4’ and 3’ dish? Thing would be 7’ tall! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 1:17 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber X I don't think it's a Nanostation form factor... it says world-breaking range, range would be pretty limited with something like that. Then again, I'm not sure how much range you need to break the world, but it sounds like a bad idea anyway. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com mailto:ericm...@gmail.com wrote: If the picture in the email ad is any indication, it looks more like a nanostation form factor. Wouldn't that limit it's antenna size back down into sub 5ghz land? On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If not Streakwave, I would bet that you could find someone else that would be willing to sell them to a HAM... worst case, you could probably buy one from a reseller in another country. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com mailto:li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Wonder if streakwave would even sell it to a ham operator if they show them the HAMlicense? Might be worth experimenting with the band anyways... So we would know if its worth pushing regulatory changes over. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 tel:419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 tel:419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us mailto:se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 2/2/15 12:04, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Can a Ham radio operator use 10ghz today? Yep, for noncommercial use. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Pin out on 430 AP to take 24vdc?
Brown and Blue are reversed 1- Or/Wh 2- Or 3- Grn/Wh 4- Brn 5- Brn/Wh 6- Grn 7- Blu/Wh 8- Blu From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 2:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pin out on 430 AP to take 24vdc? You say it should be like this? o O g B br G b B 1 2 3 5 7 6 4 8 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried that and no go. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:42 PM, David dmilho...@wletc.com mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Swap the stripes at one end ie: blu/wht and brwn/wht SHHH... I need to encrypt this :) On 02/02/2015 02:38 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: I have looked on the list and can't find anything. I did it once and promptly forgot how to do it. -- -- Sam Lambie Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 tel:575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com -- -- Sam Lambie Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 tel:575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com -- -- Sam Lambie Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] Pin out on 430 AP to take 24vdc?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson (airCloud) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 2:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pin out on 430 AP to take 24vdc? Brown and Blue are reversed 1- Or/Wh 2- Or 3- Grn/Wh 4- Brn 5- Brn/Wh 6- Grn 7- Blu/Wh 8- Blu From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 2:41 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pin out on 430 AP to take 24vdc? You say it should be like this? o O g B br G b B 1 2 3 5 7 6 4 8 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried that and no go. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:42 PM, David dmilho...@wletc.com mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Swap the stripes at one end ie: blu/wht and brwn/wht SHHH... I need to encrypt this :) On 02/02/2015 02:38 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: I have looked on the list and can't find anything. I did it once and promptly forgot how to do it. -- -- Sam Lambie Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 tel:575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com -- -- Sam Lambie Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 tel:575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com -- -- Sam Lambie Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
Wherever you buy Ubiquity. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of joseph marsh Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Where is a good place to get it On Jan 22, 2015 12:22 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Joseph, Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of joseph marsh Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Mike who u recommend? On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the biggest and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but almost every hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons because I run my own environment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Where u get the VM or vps On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com mailto:joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved. On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for just Unifi. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such, but it'll function like a normal AP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com mailto:cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a minute or two? On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been running about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my desktop, and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any buttons, merely started the Unifi controller app. Is this a known issue? Not nice. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries. On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote: The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x. But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of memory. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to manage it. On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote: With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office this morning. It seems to work OK. Controller takes a century to load
Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Video/Can-the-AirVision-NVR-also-be-a-Unifi-controller/td-p/496965 Read the whole thread From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant The AirVision units will control Unifi APs? -Ty On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=UVC-NVR Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:52 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen the controllers as soon as I get back in office. I'll look around at the vendors I use On Jan 22, 2015 12:51 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Wherever you buy Ubiquity. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of joseph marsh Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:24 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Where is a good place to get it On Jan 22, 2015 12:22 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Joseph, Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of joseph marsh Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Mike who u recommend? On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the biggest and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but almost every hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons because I run my own environment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Where u get the VM or vps On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com mailto:joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved. On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for just Unifi. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such, but it'll function like a normal AP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com mailto:cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a minute or two? On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been running about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my desktop, and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] the future of being an ISP
Anyone have a link to the proposal? I understand that there are loopholes for small utilities. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] the future of being an ISP Ok, since I sort of started this…I posted something similar on my personal Facebook page and corrected it later in the day. I didn’t really expect it to take on a life of it’s own. The video of the house hearing is here: http://www.c-span.org/video/?323888-1/hearing-open-internet Mark On Jan 21, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com mailto:br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: Is there a link or anything to see the details? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Jan 21, 2015, at 6:02 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: This posted on the facebook page of Athena Broadband of TN today: Chairman Powell of the FCC plans to reclassify the Internet as a regulated utility on Feb 26th. The chairman has confirmed in a house hearing today that USF fees WILL apply to Internet service. The current USF collection rate is 16.8% and adjusts automatically depending on how much money the government spends. If the FCC does this everyone's bill is going up by at least 16.8%. Be on the lookout as we may need your help again supporting our cause in DC against these types of actions! Looks like i've confirmed most the points of this post: * Unless we REALLY make some noise, we are probably being reclassified as a utility (title II). Yuk * Folks screaming on the radio tonight (talk radio) - internet bills go up by 16.8%. Comments? How do we break this to our customers? When will it take effect? How do we stop it? Can we stop it? How will you answer customer questions about this? ___ Members mailing list mailto:memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
Joseph, Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of joseph marsh Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Mike who u recommend? On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the biggest and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but almost every hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons because I run my own environment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Where u get the VM or vps On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com mailto:joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved. On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for just Unifi. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such, but it'll function like a normal AP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com mailto:cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a minute or two? On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been running about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my desktop, and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any buttons, merely started the Unifi controller app. Is this a known issue? Not nice. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries. On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote: The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x. But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of memory. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to manage it. On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote: With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office this morning. It seems to work OK. Controller takes a century to load initially. I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote: I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed. I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you found lacking?
Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ?
that it prohibits what he did? I see your restriction on reviews etc but unless I’m missing something, that doesn’t specify posts or reviews on sites other that http://towercoverage.com towercoverage.com. IANAL of course so maybe it’s implied, but what I read there seems to only apply to actions on your site. James Howard LiteWire Internet Services, Inc. From: Af [mailto: mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:49 AM To: mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? Yep.. bout the truth.. lol. :) Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. mailto:den...@linktechs.net den...@linktechs.net – tel:314-735-0270 314-735-0270 – http://www.linktechs.net www.linktechs.net From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson (airCloud) Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:46 AM To: mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? Well aren’t you monitoring every list and every forum all the time? Sheesh, slacker.. Jerry From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:46 AM To: mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? What I love about this, is a person posted to this forum several hours PRIOR to sending in a support e-mail asking or telling us his account had an issue. If he would have sent the email quickly, I’m sure the issue would have been fixed much quicker. Typical end user issue, let’s not go through the normal support channels to get help. Going around support channels is quicker right! Guess you can’t win them all. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. mailto:den...@linktechs.net den...@linktechs.net – tel:314-735-0270 314-735-0270 – http://www.linktechs.net www.linktechs.net From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Woodfield Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:19 AM To: mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? Buyer beware Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Dennis Burgess mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: http://www.towerocverage.com www.towerocverage.com :) Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. mailto:den...@linktechs.net den...@linktechs.net – tel:314-735-0270 314-735-0270 – http://www.linktechs.net www.linktechs.net From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:58 AM To: mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? Probably a couple months ago, someone posted a link (or name) of software that can lay out your Frequency usage on a map. Been searching this AM for it, without success. Anyone recall that software name? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 tel:772-564-6800 772-564-6800 office tel:772-473-0352 772-473-0352 cell http://www.pdmnet.com/ www.pdmnet.com mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net pa...@pdmnet.net _ Total Control Panel https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net Login To: https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net ja...@litewire.net From: https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2997040152domain=litewire.net 014b0d65ddb3-fb830839-331c-48e0-a7b1-fd0653e97534-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2997040152domain=litewire.net Remove http://amazonses.com amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain http://amazonses.com amazonses.com is on your allow list.
Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ?
Well aren’t you monitoring every list and every forum all the time? Sheesh, slacker.. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? What I love about this, is a person posted to this forum several hours PRIOR to sending in a support e-mail asking or telling us his account had an issue. If he would have sent the email quickly, I’m sure the issue would have been fixed much quicker. Typical end user issue, let’s not go through the normal support channels to get help. Going around support channels is quicker right! Guess you can’t win them all. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net mailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Woodfield Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? Buyer beware Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: www.towerocverage.com http://www.towerocverage.com :) Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net mailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:58 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? Probably a couple months ago, someone posted a link (or name) of software that can lay out your Frequency usage on a map. Been searching this AM for it, without success. Anyone recall that software name? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ?
By the way used the service last week and found it to match damn close to RM Nice job. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson (airCloud) Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? Well aren’t you monitoring every list and every forum all the time? Sheesh, slacker.. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:46 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? What I love about this, is a person posted to this forum several hours PRIOR to sending in a support e-mail asking or telling us his account had an issue. If he would have sent the email quickly, I’m sure the issue would have been fixed much quicker. Typical end user issue, let’s not go through the normal support channels to get help. Going around support channels is quicker right! Guess you can’t win them all. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net mailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Woodfield Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? Buyer beware Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: www.towerocverage.com http://www.towerocverage.com :) Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net mailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:58 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ? Probably a couple months ago, someone posted a link (or name) of software that can lay out your Frequency usage on a map. Been searching this AM for it, without success. Anyone recall that software name? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] FCC Changes the way device certification is done
Love it! Might get shit done. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Changes the way device certification is done Wow! Talk about privatizing guvmnt. This looks good to me. From: Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com ; WISPA General List mailto:wirel...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Changes the way device certification is done http://community.ubnt.com/ubnt/attachments/ubnt/Business_Talk/42403/1/FCC-14-208A1.pdf -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISP solutions
I am so over email... Most users that had an airCloud.net email address have long since gone to a free email address. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 7:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISP solutions So... Has anyone found a good solution for Gmail yet? If so I would love to hear it. Also does anyone know if the free service is also going away or was it just Apps for ISP's paid? We have one domain that was grandfathered in and one that is paid. Just wondering if we'll have to migrate the free account as well. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107
Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Honestly, PRTG has been rock solid and does everything. 2 hour, 1 day, 2 day, 30 day, 1 year graphing Alerting/alarms for unusual/down nodes (excess traffic, latency, interface errors) Mapping NTOP Group alerting/notification Custom Dashboards Report emailed automatically Sensor views by highest/lowest latency, bandwidth, etc -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 8:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS Speaking of NMS, is there a consensus as to what is the favorite? -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS If you just need to know when the power goes out, get a Site Monitor for $99. It has two power inputs. Connect input 1 to your battery backed power, and input 2 to a wall wart on an A/C outlet. Monitor the voltage on the two power inputs in your NMS. When input 2 has zero voltage, then the power is out. Add a current shunt for $20 more and then you can measure your load and voltage, from there you can estimate your expected run time. Probably not as easy as the APC management card. I'm at my end. I've been looking at this for a while now and it's obvious that no one makes an industrial APC UPS that works. We've tried the Alpha Cordex (DIN rail) and the ICT (19 rack) and neither one can do what a APC management card can. We just need it to provide 24vDC to a load and when the AC power goes out, send an alert and let us monitor the system status via SNMP. Alpha: PROS: DIN rail mounted CONS: Web interface is IE only, SNMP requests are completely broken, have not tested SNMP traps, cost is about $700. ICT: PROS: It works well as a dumb power supply/charger with UPS functionality, web interface works in all browsers. CONS: SNMP is limited to about 6 values, all remote communication is lost when AC is removed, no battery monitoring at all other than the voltage for use with LV cutoff which is one of the values that is not available via SNMP. Also costs about $700 I have to give it to Alpha at this point, at least their unit remains intelligent when AC power is removed. If they would fix their web interface and SNMP it would be perfect. So... Does anyone have a solution that works that isn't completely cobbled together? I need to know when we lose/regain AC power, that the battery is draining, what the battery voltage is so that I know when it's about to cut off, it needs a LV cut off to protect the batteries, and all this information needs to be available via SNMP and web. Am I asking for too much or does something of this nature exist outside of TrippLite and APC?
Re: [AFMUG] What polarity is this panel?
Depends on orientation. IIRC there is an arrow on the label that shows which way is horizontal http://www.antennas.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ARC-PA0913B01_DS_090811.pdf From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What polarity is this panel? Probably hpol Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 5, 2015 6:40 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: How do you know how this Arc Wireless panel is polarized? I don't have any packing information handy, the spec sheets I found on line don't say and there is nothing written on the panel besides the label. My guess is the panel in the picture is horizontally polarized.
Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
Android has a few apps for this. Perhaps a tablet in a hard case? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.metageek.inSSIDer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.metageek.inSSIDerhl=en hl=en From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 9:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Looking more for a handheld device that has a nice screen, dual band. From: mailto:af@afmug.com Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:42 AM To: mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Nanobeam for tight focal point. Picostation for a 6dbi omni (or if you want to change antenna). Both run AirOS/Airview which is a real spectrum analyzer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com wrote: What is a good lower cost spectrum analyzer to help techs sniff out customer’s wifi coverage?
Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
Just put this app on a cheap nook tablet and it’s actually pretty good. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzerhl=en From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer I don’t want the spam. From: Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:56 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Need to request a quote =/ http://www.bvsystems.com/Products/Spectrum/BumbleBee-EX/bumblebee-exRFQ.htm Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Looking at everything. Fluke has a nice one. Cannot find a price for this device: BumbleBee-EX Spectrum Analyzer From: Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:53 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer If you're just looking for Wifi stuff I'd use this too. Doesn't sound like you need 2.4, just Wifi. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Android cell phone app. Free! Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 tel:%28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Looking for something under $300 -Original Message- From: Daniel White via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:49 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Compared to what ;-) Certainly a lot less than an Agilent/Keysight Fieldfox or Anritsu Sitemaster. Honestly I doubt it’s the tool you want for this job. I think you pick your poison - WiFi based are thinks like WiSpy, or even an app on an Android phone... or you go all out for a spectrum analyzer like Aaronia or SAF (which is a whole different debate). Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 tel:%28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Spendy as I recall. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:49 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer On 12/30/14 9:45, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Looking more for a handheld device that has a nice screen, dual band. SAF Spectrum Compact has a model for 2.000 - 8.000 GHz. ~Seth
[AFMUG] Rocket AC lite CPU and Memory OID
Walked it several time. Looks like they just aren't there Wonder when Ubiquity will truly understand what it means to be enterprise. SNMP is not optional, it's mandatory. Sent from my iPad
[AFMUG] UBNT Titanium; Narrower Sectors and GPS
Our region is pretty noisy and getting noisier. Currently we are using Ubnt Rocket 90deg sectors although I have considered these to really be more like 75 degrees due UBNT using -6dB as the rolloff point. We have seen a dramatic improvement with a Titanium sector and plan on replacing the other rockets with Titaniums and considering going to 60deg or maybe even 45 degree and using GPS sync to reuse channels. What if any have been your experiences with going to narrower sectors for a given area? I would expect to see ~3dB improvement in links just by reducing the antenna pattern, and ~3dB due to power density. Additional gains might be made from improved F/B rejection and improved shielding, possibly another ~3dB? This could mean anywhere from 6-9dB improvement on every link. What are your experiences with UBNT GPS? We would not use dynamic, but rather fixed downlink %. I know we will give up some B/W but better spectrum management might be worth the trade. The link improvements should push the radios into higher modulation further mitigating the loss by using GPS Thoughts? Comments? Jerry
Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF
I have been an iPhone uer for a while - 3, 4, 5, 5s. I'll get a 6 next year. Main reasons for not changing: - Stability. These things just keep working much like yours. - Consistency. I know iOS, the apps are proofed and generally work as expected - Investment. Got a lot of $$ ties up in apps and music. It's easier to stay with iPhone I'm on ATT, wife is on Verizon. Both have excellent coverage and few holes. I used to burn through data faster when I was commuting and in the field. Now that I'm at a home office on WiFi I use much less. Hope that helps. On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Huge holiday discussion at my house. Two members of the family need new phones. I have never been a big Apple fan but the only smart phone I have ever owned is an iPhone 4. Still have it. Charge it once a week. Fat, dumb and happy. Wife uses a Samsung Galaxy Infuse and needs a new phone. I have some kids that have iPhones and we all like the find friends apps so we can spy on each other. One kid has lost his phone and needs a new one. That kid and my wife are shopping for phones and plans. Kid is OK with Apple products. His mother has anxiety about leaving Android. Kinda like I want her to vote Democrat or join PETA... (Which is totally weird as I associate Apple with Birkenstock wearing, Dreadlocks, Cigarette Smoking, BA degrees, Wine, Liberal, Democrat, Tree Hugger and folks that use crystals to align their chakras). We are all on a pay as you go mobile value share plan with ATT. No matter what we decide I get to pay. The new phones are pretty expensive. But they will amortize depending on the plan. Too lazy to even attempt to understand the plans from the different carriers, the different phones, etc etc. I have used less than 0.01 GB of data in the last month. Phone are for talking on. But I realize that my buggy whip factory stock is probably worthless too. So my opinion as to features is irrelevant as I still read books printed on plant matter. (I do like the built in camera and a solar panel orientation and location app) (And a hymn book...) But I would like to get a good value. I care more about price than features or OS. Not so the rest of the clan. (As in Scottish Clan, OK, not Klan).So if anyone can help me pick a direction It would be appreciated.
[AFMUG] AirFiber 5 experiences - good/bad/ugly
Looking for some feedback on AF5. Looking at a 11.5 mile shot 40MHz channel. Thanks
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
Pretty sure MikroTik routers will spit out a Trap when then interfaces change state. Loopback wiring to a magnetic or button switch would do the trick, you wouldn’t even need a relay. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists?
[AFMUG] Storm Warning ya'll. Pineapple Express heading toward Nor Cal...
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Re: [AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service.
You are the value alternative :-) I would probably double the bill sign them to a new three year agreement, and get some some $$ for installation. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: There might be another wireless provider that could get them hooked up, but I couldn't speculate who. They have a very narrow window through their trees to a tiny section of the valley. The other option would be running fiber up from the valley. Where they're at, it would be an approximate 15 mile fiber run. How much is that? bp On 10/30/2014 12:12 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af wrote: What are their alternatives Bill? On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I am using an RB2011 as a VPLS NID to provide 100meg DIA to a customer. It works great. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/29/2014 05:56 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: We do similar and if the customer doesnt have these things at the termination point we offer a lease or purchase for the extended equipment. I still cant get away from Mikrotiks CCR routers instead of the latter. On 10/29/2014 7:29 PM, Paul Stewart via Af wrote: That pricing is similar to what we charge when using PTP600 directly back to a fiber fed hub site. At the customer site, we install an APC 1500 UPS (with SNMP management) and a Juniper SRX router - fully managed and monitored from NOC. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:00 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service. Base Price: 1yr Contract: $1980/mo 2yr Contract: $1870/mo 3yr Contract: $1760/mo We negotiate discounts from those prices. Usually end up giving customers 20-30% off to make a deal. DIA services are always negotiable. Sometimes we have to add to them to deal with all the upgrades necessary to get to the customer. Install depends on required equipment. Airfiber is usually not a big deal. Licensed link could be the cost of the link spread over term of contract. You also have to consider what it takes from your backbone to deliver that. How many sites from your upstream is it? Do you need to charge enough to cover future upgrades to your backhauls, routers, etc? What about upgrades to UPSes in the path? Just some things to consider. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/29/2014 01:25 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: No Comcast here. No ATT here. Others as well. Only real competition at this site would be bonded T1 lines. Qty 1 T1 in this location would be ~~ $500 per month. There might be another Wireless provider that could get through the hole in the trees, but the number would be very, very limited. bp On 10/29/2014 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: What are Comcast\TW\ATT\Zayo\etc. selling 100 megs for? That's where you want to sell your 100 megs, assuming you're not losing your ass at that rate. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+Intelligent ComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligen t-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL - --- *From: *Bill Prince via Afaf@afmug.com *To: *Motorola IIIaf@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:57:39 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service. We have a new subscriber we're providing dedicated 24x24 service right now. He's asked for a quote for dedicated 100x100 service. The link is ~~ 8.5 miles. Right now, I'm thinking we need to put in a licensed link. The site is active with 2 PMP450 APs, and I do not want to interfere on a site with relatively tight spectrum demands, so anything in 5.8 is out of the question. I don't really need technical advice, but I'm looking for advice on how to price this. Typically, we charge 30-50 % of the equipment cost and then price the monthly recurring to recover the remaining equipment cost over 12 months. However, I would like to entertain alternatives. -- bp --
[AFMUG] Touughswitch 5 reset all connected radios!!
Had a very strange issue last night where all of the AP's and a backhaul attached to a TS5 reset to defaults. We are unclear as to what the cause was, we suspect it happened while a backhaul was being moved from one mount to another. It's possible there is a little corrosion on the pins that shorted POE to Ethernet, but that should not have reset all of the radios through the switch. Replaced the switch and reconfigured the radios but it is certainly disconcerting that this can even happen. Does anyone know if disabling the reset button in the software also disables the ability to reset over the Ethernet? SMH Jerry
[AFMUG] Dielectric grease on RJ45 for radios
Anyone doing this? Pros, cons?
Re: [AFMUG] Comcast is getting really ticked about complaints
It will be interesting to see how this goes, but it's unlikely that Conal is blameless. Ken's probably on the right track. We've had customers act unreasonably. They use DirectWay now... On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is Comcast we're talking about here though. They do some pretty outrageous stuff on occasion. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Given that we have all had calls from customers that are complete asses I pretty much have to assume Conal really crossed a line to get that much of a reaction. Mark On 10/8/14, 9:35 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: The original article states that nobody has access to recordings of the phone calls or the contents of the emails. Maybe Conal was the jerk. What would someone have to say before you called his employer and told them they employee was being bad? Something serious I assume. Maybe Conal made threats or something. The fact is we don't know, and slashdot rallies automatically against the cable company because they're the cable company. Not that I love my cable companybut the bias is quite clear. Per the original article it doesn't sound like the guy was being a jerk at all. Comcast was, in fact, the jerk. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Chris Wright via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That's pretty shady, but this part of the editorial really ticked me off, *Be careful next time when you exercise your first amendment rights* The first amendment protects the rights of the people to speak freely, but does not protect you from the consequences of being a jerk. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless http://www.velociter.net/ *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:17 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Comcast is getting really ticked about complaints Yeah I saw that. PS - f@#$ /. beta ;) Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/07/2014 02:51 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: http://beta.slashdot.org/story/208189 ï¿ 1/2 Rory P. Conaway 4226 S. 37th Street Phoenix, Az. 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net ï¿ 1/2 -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] credit checks
No credit check. We bill for the install and first month prorated. Residential is CC only and we bill in advance for each month. If the charge won;t go through on a second month, we call to see what's up and collect payment. I can't remember the last time we had to actually turn someone off. Its such a small percentage of our customer base it's not worth stressing over. It's not like giving them service really costs anything so we can afford to be pretty relaxed about it. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Chris Fabien via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Do you really want the customer whose main criteria in selecting a provider is how long will it take to get shut off for non payment? On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The trouble is the primary comptetion (Time Warner Cable) does free installs and then lets you go 90 days before they shut you off. I have to try not to be a meaner guy than them. meh too much work. get payment upfront for as much as possible (install and first month) bill ahead for the month instead of behind and turn off service quickly for non-payment. credit checks are too expensive and bothersome. 2 cents -sean On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My mission this morning is to figure out how I'm going to do credit checks on potential new customers. While I'm on hold with Experian, I wonder if anybody else is doing credit checks who can share what they're doing. What company are you using? How much does it cost? How hard was it to get set up?