Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-05-18 Thread Jeremy
Back from the dead!  If anyone was still looking for a source for these I
have found them sold at discountlowvoltage.com in packs of 200.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   There are 110 patch cables.  If you need to field terminate your own,
 use something like this:

 http://www.showmecables.com/product/ICC-4-Pair-110-Style-Field-Temination-Plugs.aspx


  *From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
 *Sent:* Friday, February 20, 2015 5:06 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

   If you have to, you can strip it and kinda wire wrap around the 110
 slot and then attempt to kinda punch it down.

  *From:* Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:38 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

  Stranded cable just doesn't punch down on standard 110-type teeth at
 all, it'll always be bad results.

 Eric kuhnkee...@kuhnke-international.com
 Sierra Leone (Africell): +232-88-284222
 Sierra Leone (Airtel) +232-79-107461
 Ghana (MTN): +233-5478-81863
 Iridium: +1-480-768-2500 followed by 8816-234-59301
 Vancouver: +1-604-783-3317
 Skype: erickuhnke

 On 2/19/15 8:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

 You know the more that I think about this, I'm thinking you're right.
 There are 7 different boxes of cable next to me, and none of them are
 stranded. The dozens of pre-made patch cables from 0.5ft to 50ft above them
 though are all stranded.

 I can't imagine trying to punch down a stranded cable :)

 --
 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 02/19/2015 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  I don’t think that’s right.  Stranded should only be used for patch
 cords which need to withstand flexing, otherwise all cable both indoors and
 out should be solid.  Not to say there aren’t homeowners who have pulled a
 50 ft patch cord from Best Buy through their walls, but you should very
 rarely encounter stranded cable in permanent wiring.


  *From:* Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

  Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing things
 indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is solid.

 (side note: f@#k stranded CatX)

 --
 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

  Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6
 cable are usually solid core.







 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Nate Burke
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing



 He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R  They take a pair and
 splice to another pair.  You can keep them twisted right up until they go
 into the connector



  On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

 We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well:

 http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html



 Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I
 might try it





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing



 Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to
 splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at
 the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use.



 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net
 wrote:

 I was curious about that product as well.

 Nate Burke wrote:

 I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought maybe he'd see it
 on the list.

 Nate


 On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

 Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get
 his card but I think Jay Fuller did.

 Nate Burke wrote:

 I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product
 like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector.
 It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler.


 On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

 we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre
 going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do
 it wrong

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in
 that picture for ethernet.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
 mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


 On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-20 Thread Chuck McCown
If you have to, you can strip it and kinda wire wrap around the 110 slot and 
then attempt to kinda punch it down.

From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Stranded cable just doesn't punch down on standard 110-type teeth at all, 
it'll always be bad results.


Eric Kuhnke
e...@kuhnke-international.com
Sierra Leone (Africell): +232-88-284222
Sierra Leone (Airtel) +232-79-107461
Ghana (MTN): +233-5478-81863
Iridium: +1-480-768-2500 followed by 8816-234-59301
Vancouver: +1-604-783-3317
Skype: erickuhnke
On 2/19/15 8:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

  You know the more that I think about this, I'm thinking you're right. There 
are 7 different boxes of cable next to me, and none of them are stranded. The 
dozens of pre-made patch cables from 0.5ft to 50ft above them though are all 
stranded.

  I can't imagine trying to punch down a stranded cable :)

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 02/19/2015 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I don’t think that’s right.  Stranded should only be used for patch cords 
which need to withstand flexing, otherwise all cable both indoors and out 
should be solid.  Not to say there aren’t homeowners who have pulled a 50 ft 
patch cord from Best Buy through their walls, but you should very rarely 
encounter stranded cable in permanent wiring.


From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing things 
indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is solid.

(side note: f@#k stranded CatX)

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

  Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 
cable are usually solid core.

   

   

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

   

  He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R  They take a pair and 
splice to another pair.  You can keep them twisted right up until they go into 
the connector





  On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as 
well:

http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html

 

Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I 
might try it

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

 

Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them 
to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the 
base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use.

 

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley 
par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:

  I was curious about that product as well.

  Nate Burke wrote:

I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought maybe he'd 
see it on the list.

Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

  Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I 
didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did.

  Nate Burke wrote:

I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is 
a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the 
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler.


On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

  we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, 
if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product 
to do it wrong

  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use 
what's in
  that picture for ethernet.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
  mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


  On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they are water 
resistant.

Adam

*From

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
There are 110 patch cables.  If you need to field terminate your own, use 
something like this:
http://www.showmecables.com/product/ICC-4-Pair-110-Style-Field-Temination-Plugs.aspx


From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 5:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

If you have to, you can strip it and kinda wire wrap around the 110 slot and 
then attempt to kinda punch it down.

From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Stranded cable just doesn't punch down on standard 110-type teeth at all, 
it'll always be bad results.


Eric Kuhnke
e...@kuhnke-international.com
Sierra Leone (Africell): +232-88-284222
Sierra Leone (Airtel) +232-79-107461
Ghana (MTN): +233-5478-81863
Iridium: +1-480-768-2500 followed by 8816-234-59301
Vancouver: +1-604-783-3317
Skype: erickuhnke
On 2/19/15 8:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

  You know the more that I think about this, I'm thinking you're right. There 
are 7 different boxes of cable next to me, and none of them are stranded. The 
dozens of pre-made patch cables from 0.5ft to 50ft above them though are all 
stranded.

  I can't imagine trying to punch down a stranded cable :)

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 02/19/2015 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I don’t think that’s right.  Stranded should only be used for patch cords 
which need to withstand flexing, otherwise all cable both indoors and out 
should be solid.  Not to say there aren’t homeowners who have pulled a 50 ft 
patch cord from Best Buy through their walls, but you should very rarely 
encounter stranded cable in permanent wiring.


From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing things 
indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is solid.

(side note: f@#k stranded CatX)

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

  Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 
cable are usually solid core.

   

   

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

   

  He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R  They take a pair and 
splice to another pair.  You can keep them twisted right up until they go into 
the connector





  On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as 
well:

http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html

 

Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I 
might try it

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

 

Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them 
to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the 
base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use.

 

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley 
par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:

  I was curious about that product as well.

  Nate Burke wrote:

I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought maybe he'd 
see it on the list.

Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

  Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I 
didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did.

  Nate Burke wrote:

I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is 
a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the 
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler.


On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

  we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, 
if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product 
to do it wrong

  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use 
what's in
  that picture for ethernet.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
  mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Nate Burke
Way back in the day we were doing a project which required a bunch of 
connections RJ45 to a 66 block. We spent a lot of time finding Solid 
patch cables (So we could cut them in half and punch them in).



On 2/19/2015 2:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
You know the more that I think about this, I'm thinking you're right. 
There are 7 different boxes of cable next to me, and none of them are 
stranded. The dozens of pre-made patch cables from 0.5ft to 50ft above 
them though are all stranded.


I can't imagine trying to punch down a stranded cable :)
--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 02/19/2015 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I don’t think that’s right.  Stranded should only be used for patch 
cords which need to withstand flexing, otherwise all cable both 
indoors and out should be solid. Not to say there aren’t homeowners 
who have pulled a 50 ft patch cord from Best Buy through their walls, 
but you should very rarely encounter stranded cable in permanent wiring.

*From:* Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing 
things indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen 
is solid.


(side note: f@#k stranded CatX)
--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:


Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and 
Cat6 cable are usually solid core.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R They take a pair 
and splice to another pair.  You can keep them twisted right up 
until they go into the connector




On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and
work as well:

http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html

Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are
reliable I might try it

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric
Muehleisen
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once
used them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the
tower that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great
for temporary use.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley
par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:

I was curious about that product as well.

Nate Burke wrote:

I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought
maybe he'd see it on the list.

Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility
with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay
Fuller did.

Nate Burke wrote:

I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but
supposedly there is a product like this, but
specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown
splice block or RJ45 coupler.


On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

we have come across a few customer splices
using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice
themselves, at least theyre using a quality
product to do it wrong

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh
Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I
would never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke
n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Those inline splices are great. As long as you are not running 10gbps 
over your 3000 foot long cat6e cable you should be good.


(if you are running 10gbps over a 3000 foot cat6 cable to a CPE or AP 
please let me know the brand of AP/CPE you are using so I can switch to 
that product NOW!)



ryan


On 2/19/15 10:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:


Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and 
Cat6 cable are usually solid core.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R  They take a pair 
and splice to another pair.  You can keep them twisted right up until 
they go into the connector




On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work
as well:

http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html

Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are
reliable I might try it

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used
them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower
that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for
temporary use.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley
par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:

I was curious about that product as well.

Nate Burke wrote:

I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought
maybe he'd see it on the list.

Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with
us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did.

Nate Burke wrote:

I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but
supposedly there is a product like this, but
specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown
splice block or RJ45 coupler.


On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

we have come across a few customer splices
using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice
themselves, at least theyre using a quality
product to do it wrong

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would
never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke
n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM,
SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they
are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf
Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19,
2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some
who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product.  They
described it as being
similar to a butt connector

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don’t think that’s right.  Stranded should only be used for patch cords which 
need to withstand flexing, otherwise all cable both indoors and out should be 
solid.  Not to say there aren’t homeowners who have pulled a 50 ft patch cord 
from Best Buy through their walls, but you should very rarely encounter 
stranded cable in permanent wiring.


From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing things 
indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is solid.

(side note: f@#k stranded CatX)

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

  Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 
cable are usually solid core.

   

   

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

   

  He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R  They take a pair and 
splice to another pair.  You can keep them twisted right up until they go into 
the connector





  On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well:

http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html

 

Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I 
might try it

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

 

Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to 
splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the 
base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use.

 

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:

  I was curious about that product as well.

  Nate Burke wrote:

I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought maybe he'd see 
it on the list.

Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

  Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't 
get his card but I think Jay Fuller did.

  Nate Burke wrote:

I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a 
product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the 
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler.


On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

  we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if 
theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to 
do it wrong

  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in
  that picture for ethernet.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
  mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


  On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of 
*Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product.  They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so 
that
the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
another twist.  I've been searching around, but haven't 
been
able to find them.  I can see this being better than 
trying
to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use
something similar to this?





  -- 
  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember 
that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you 
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing things 
indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is solid.


(side note: f@#k stranded CatX)

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:


Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and 
Cat6 cable are usually solid core.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R  They take a pair 
and splice to another pair.  You can keep them twisted right up until 
they go into the connector




On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work
as well:

http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html

Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are
reliable I might try it

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used
them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower
that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for
temporary use.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley
par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:

I was curious about that product as well.

Nate Burke wrote:

I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought
maybe he'd see it on the list.

Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with
us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did.

Nate Burke wrote:

I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but
supposedly there is a product like this, but
specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown
splice block or RJ45 coupler.


On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

we have come across a few customer splices
using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice
themselves, at least theyre using a quality
product to do it wrong

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would
never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke
n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM,
SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they
are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf
Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19,
2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some
who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product.  They
described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep
twist

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
You know the more that I think about this, I'm thinking you're right. 
There are 7 different boxes of cable next to me, and none of them are 
stranded. The dozens of pre-made patch cables from 0.5ft to 50ft above 
them though are all stranded.


I can't imagine trying to punch down a stranded cable :)

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 02/19/2015 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I don’t think that’s right.  Stranded should only be used for patch 
cords which need to withstand flexing, otherwise all cable both 
indoors and out should be solid.  Not to say there aren’t homeowners 
who have pulled a 50 ft patch cord from Best Buy through their walls, 
but you should very rarely encounter stranded cable in permanent wiring.

*From:* Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing 
things indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen 
is solid.


(side note: f@#k stranded CatX)
--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:


Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and 
Cat6 cable are usually solid core.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R  They take a pair 
and splice to another pair.  You can keep them twisted right up until 
they go into the connector




On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and
work as well:

http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html

Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are
reliable I might try it

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric
Muehleisen
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used
them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower
that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for
temporary use.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley
par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:

I was curious about that product as well.

Nate Burke wrote:

I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought
maybe he'd see it on the list.

Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility
with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller
did.

Nate Burke wrote:

I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but
supposedly there is a product like this, but
specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown
splice block or RJ45 coupler.


On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

we have come across a few customer splices
using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice
themselves, at least theyre using a quality
product to do it wrong

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh
Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would
never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke
n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM,
SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they
are water resistant

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 cable 
are usually solid core.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R  They take a pair and splice 
to another pair.  You can keep them twisted right up until they go into the 
connector

[cid:image001.png@01D04C34.3B0C3310]

On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well:
http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html

Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I might 
try it


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to 
splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the 
base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley 
par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:
I was curious about that product as well.

Nate Burke wrote:
I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought maybe he'd see it on the 
list.

Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his 
card but I think Jay Fuller did.

Nate Burke wrote:
I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like 
this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector.  It would 
replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler.


On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:
we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going 
to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke 
n...@blastcomm.commailto:n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.commailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] 
*On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product.  They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that
the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
another twist.  I've been searching around, but haven't been
able to find them.  I can see this being better than trying
to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use
something similar to this?




--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925









Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Bill Prince
We have used those for a while.  We also use DC4 in the coupler inside, 
and then wrap the outside with silicon tape.  They have lasted for years 
without leaks/failures.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 2/19/2015 8:53 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Manufacturer: Bulgin PX0777/UTPCurrent Rating: 1.5 AVoltage Rating: 30 
VAC / 42 VDC


Mouser 
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=p08Uhw9w2FyOGS2yhLmq6g==


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:51 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:


I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a
product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into
the connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or
RJ45 coupler.


On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if
theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a
quality product to do it wrong

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's
in that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Nate Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so
that the twist went all the way into the unit to splice
with another twist.  I've been searching around, but
haven't been able to find them.  I can see this being
better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some
situations. Anybody use something similar to this?






-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember

that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.
Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a
reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
manual, 1925






Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Jay Weekley

The product I think Nate is referring to sounded something like that.

Bill Prince wrote:
Local phone guy was using something like that for keeping most of the 
twist in his twisted pairs.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 2/19/2015 9:56 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Sounds like they are referring to this:
http://www.alliedelec.com/3m-u1r/70112963/
*From:* Nate Burke mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a 
product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the 
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 
coupler.



On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:
we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if 
theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality 
product to do it wrong
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:


There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that
the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
another twist.  I've been searching around, but haven't
been able to find them.  I can see this being better than
trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody
use something similar to this?





--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, 
if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925








Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Bill Prince
Local phone guy was using something like that for keeping most of the 
twist in his twisted pairs.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 2/19/2015 9:56 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Sounds like they are referring to this:
http://www.alliedelec.com/3m-u1r/70112963/
*From:* Nate Burke mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a 
product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the 
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 
coupler.



On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:
we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if 
theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality 
product to do it wrong
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that
the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
another twist.  I've been searching around, but haven't been
able to find them.  I can see this being better than trying
to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody use
something similar to this?





--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, 
if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925






Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Peter Kranz
I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I need to 
replace it..

 



 

Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com



Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Bill Prince

I think I agree.

We've used the Bulgin jobs for a long time, and they work very well.  
However, with the Bulgin you have to terminate the ends after you've 
threaded the glands/nuts on.


This one looks like you can terminate the ends before assembly.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 2/19/2015 10:30 AM, Peter Kranz wrote:


I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I 
need to replace it..


Waterproof Shielded RJ45 Female to Female Field Installable Coupler

*Peter Kranz
*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com





Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Josh Luthman
The rubber gromits on mine definitely look a lot better.  That looks fine
if it was 1 of them vertical, but I'd be afraid of dust/dirt getting into
it sideways.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:

 I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I need
 to replace it..



 [image: Waterproof Shielded RJ45 Female to Female Field Installable
 Coupler]




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com



Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Eric Kuhnke

  
  
Stranded cable just doesn't punch down
  on standard 110-type "teeth" at all, it'll always be bad results.
  
  Eric Kuhnke
e...@kuhnke-international.com
Sierra Leone (Africell): +232-88-284222
Sierra Leone (Airtel) +232-79-107461
Ghana (MTN): +233-5478-81863
Iridium: +1-480-768-2500 followed by 8816-234-59301
Vancouver: +1-604-783-3317
Skype: erickuhnke

  On 2/19/15 8:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:


  
  You know the more that I think about
this, I'm thinking you're right. There are 7 different boxes of
cable next to me, and none of them are stranded. The dozens of
pre-made patch cables from 0.5ft to 50ft above them though are
all stranded.

I can't imagine trying to punch down a stranded cable :)
--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 02/19/2015 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
  
  


  
I don’t think that’s right.  Stranded should only be
  used for patch cords which need to withstand flexing,
  otherwise all cable both indoors and out should be solid. 
  Not to say there aren’t homeowners who have pulled a 50 ft
  patch cord from Best Buy through their walls, but you
  should very rarely encounter stranded cable in permanent
  wiring.
 

  
 

  From: Josh Reynolds
  
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

  
   


  Depends on what market you
are in. If you're in general IT doing things indoors,
it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is
solid.

(side note: f@#k stranded CatX)
--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
  
  




  Would that work for Cat6 end to end
  splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 cable are
  usually solid core.
   
   
   
  

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53
  AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

  
   
  He
might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R 
They take a pair and splice to another pair.  You
can keep them twisted right up until they go into
the connector




  
On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry
  Richardson wrote:
  
  
We’ve been using these – the are
bit less that the Bulgin and work as well:
http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html
 
Not sure how I feel about using
crimp splice but if they are reliable I might
try it
 
 
From: Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
 

  Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our
guys use them all the time. I once used them to
splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up
the tower that was cut at the base by a tower
climber. Worked great for temporary use.


   
  
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at
  10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net

  wrote:

  I was curious about that
product as well.

Nate Burke wrote:
  
I emailed hi

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread That One Guy
boss is ordering a couple of those

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:

 I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I need
 to replace it..



 [image: Waterproof Shielded RJ45 Female to Female Field Installable
 Coupler]




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com




-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Jeremy
I was the one that you were talking to at AF.  I've been using these for
years.  I still try to protect them from water by wrapping in mastic,
electrical tape, and putting them in a box.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 None of those.  You want Thomas and Betts 709 SC.  End-to-end splice.

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:49 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 boss is ordering a couple of those

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com
 wrote:

 I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I
 need to replace it..



 [image: Waterproof Shielded RJ45 Female to Female Field Installable
 Coupler]




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Jeremy
None of those.  You want Thomas and Betts 709 SC.  End-to-end splice.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:49 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:

 boss is ordering a couple of those

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com
 wrote:

 I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I need
 to replace it..



 [image: Waterproof Shielded RJ45 Female to Female Field Installable
 Coupler]




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925



[AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Nate Burke
Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 
splice product.  They described it as being similar to a butt connector

Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist 
went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist. I've been 
searching around, but haven't been able to find them.  I can see this 
being better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  
Anybody use something similar to this?


Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread SmarterBroadband
We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

 

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 splice
product.  They described it as being similar to a butt connector 
Image result
for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist went
all the way into the unit to splice with another twist.  I've been searching
around, but haven't been able to find them.  I can see this being better
than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use something
similar to this?  



Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Nate Burke

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 
splice product.  They described it as being similar to a butt connector

Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist 
went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist.  I've 
been searching around, but haven't been able to find them.  I can see 
this being better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some 
situations.  Anybody use something similar to this?






Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Jerry Richardson
We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well:

http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html

 

Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I might 
try it

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

 

Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to 
splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the 
base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use.

 

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net  wrote:

I was curious about that product as well.

Nate Burke wrote:

I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought maybe he'd see it on the 
list.

Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his 
card but I think Jay Fuller did.

Nate Burke wrote:

I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like 
this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector.  It would 
replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler.


On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going 
to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com  mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com  wrote:

There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340  tel:937-552-2340 
tel:937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343  tel:937-552-2343 
tel:937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com  wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] 
*On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product.  They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that
the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
another twist.  I've been searching around, but haven't been
able to find them.  I can see this being better than trying
to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use
something similar to this?





-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925

 





 

 



Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to
splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at
the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:

 I was curious about that product as well.

 Nate Burke wrote:

 I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought maybe he'd see it
 on the list.

 Nate


 On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

 Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get
 his card but I think Jay Fuller did.

 Nate Burke wrote:

 I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a
 product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the
 connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 
 coupler.


 On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

 we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if
 theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product
 to do it wrong

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in
 that picture for ethernet.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
 mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


 On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


 We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

 Adam

 *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate
 Burke
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

 Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
 using a Cat5 splice product.  They described it as being
 similar to a butt connector
 Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
 but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that
 the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
 another twist.  I've been searching around, but haven't been
 able to find them.  I can see this being better than trying
 to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use
 something similar to this?





 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
 the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
 not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925









Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Nate Burke
I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought maybe he'd see it 
on the list.


Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't 
get his card but I think Jay Fuller did.


Nate Burke wrote:
I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a 
product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the 
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 
coupler.



On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:
we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if 
theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality 
product to do it wrong


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:


There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product.  They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that
the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
another twist.  I've been searching around, but haven't been
able to find them.  I can see this being better than trying
to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use
something similar to this?






--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, 
if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925






Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread That One Guy
we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre
going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do
it wrong

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in that
 picture for ethernet.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


 On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

  We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

 Adam



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Nate Burke
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing



 Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5
 splice product.  They described it as being similar to a butt connector
 [image: Image result for cat5 splice keep twist]
 but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist
 went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist.  I've been
 searching around, but haven't been able to find them.  I can see this being
 better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use
 something similar to this?





-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Nate Burke
I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a 
product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the 
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 
coupler.



On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:
we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if 
theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality 
product to do it wrong


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using
a Cat5 splice product.  They described it as being similar to
a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that
the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
another twist. I've been searching around, but haven't been
able to find them.  I can see this being better than trying
to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use
something similar to this?






--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if 
you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Jay Weekley
Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get 
his card but I think Jay Fuller did.


Nate Burke wrote:
I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a 
product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the 
connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 
coupler.



On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:
we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if 
theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality 
product to do it wrong


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product.  They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that
the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
another twist.  I've been searching around, but haven't been
able to find them.  I can see this being better than trying
to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use
something similar to this?






--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, 
if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925






Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Manufacturer: Bulgin PX0777/UTPCurrent Rating: 1.5 AVoltage Rating: 30 VAC
/ 42 VDC

Mouser
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=p08Uhw9w2FyOGS2yhLmq6g==

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 19, 2015 11:51 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product
 like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector.
 It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler.


 On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

 we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre
 going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do
 it wrong

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in that
 picture for ethernet.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
   On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


 On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

  We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

 Adam



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Nate Burke
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing



 Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5
 splice product.  They described it as being similar to a butt connector
 [image: Image result for cat5 splice keep twist]
 but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist
 went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist.  I've been
 searching around, but haven't been able to find them.  I can see this being
 better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use
 something similar to this?





  --
  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Jay Weekley

I was curious about that product as well.

Nate Burke wrote:
I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought maybe he'd see 
it on the list.


Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't 
get his card but I think Jay Fuller did.


Nate Burke wrote:
I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a 
product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into 
the connector.  It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or 
RJ45 coupler.



On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:
we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if 
theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality 
product to do it wrong


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:


There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product.  They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that
the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
another twist.  I've been searching around, but haven't been
able to find them.  I can see this being better than trying
to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use
something similar to this?






--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember 
that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. 
Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a 
reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance 
manual, 1925










Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Nate Burke
He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R  They take a pair and 
splice to another pair.  You can keep them twisted right up until they 
go into the connector





On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:


We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as 
well:


http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html

Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable 
I might try it


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them 
to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was 
cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use.


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley 
par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


I was curious about that product as well.

Nate Burke wrote:

I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back.  Thought maybe
he'd see it on the list.

Nate


On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us?
I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did.

Nate Burke wrote:

I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly
there is a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6
where the pair go into the connector.  It would
replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler.


On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

we have come across a few customer splices using
the redcaps, if theyre going to splice themselves,
at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would
never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke
n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Do you have a partnumber/distributor?


On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


We use them.  Gel filled so they are
water resistant.

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015
8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

Out at AF I was talking to some who
said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product.  They
described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept
the Cat5 twist, so that
the twist went all the way into the
unit to splice with
another twist.  I've been searching
around, but haven't been
able to find them.  I can see this
being better than trying
to do an RJ45 coupler in some
situations.  Anybody use
something similar to this?





-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You

must remember that the parts you are reassembling
were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason.
By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

2015-02-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Sounds like they are referring to this:
http://www.alliedelec.com/3m-u1r/70112963/


From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing

I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like 
this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector.  It would 
replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler.  



On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:

  we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going 
to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong

  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:

There's a shielded one at Mouser.  I would never use what's in that picture 
for ethernet.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  Do you have a partnumber/distributor?



  On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

We use them.  Gel filled so they are water resistant.

Adam



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing



Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 
splice product.  They described it as being similar to a butt connector 

but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist 
went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist.  I've been 
searching around, but haven't been able to find them.  I can see this being 
better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations.  Anybody use 
something similar to this?  







  -- 

  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't 
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a 
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925