Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Paul Stewart]

Polycom are very solid phones … I’d put them “head to head” with the Cisco 
phones (the non Linksys branded ones) … different price bracket than the 
Grandstream/Linksys etc phones but the quality (look and feel) is quite 
noticeably different in my opinion too .. 

 

Are they worth the difference?I’d say “it depends” … I used to have Snom 
and then Aastra phones in my home and they worked ok – eventually they died off 
(3-4 years) and I went to Polycom .. couple of more years and I’ll be more 
confident in saying they were worth the price (almost double if I recall)… 
YMMV.. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Gray
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

 

I've heard decent things about the Grandstream DECT phones, but all 2nd hand 
and never tried them. Anyone have experience with those?

 

A Wired Phone Question:

I use mostly Linksys / Cisco wired with good results (good sound quality, good 
handsets). How does Polycom compare to the standard Cisco units?




  _  

 

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that doesn’t 
like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also want a 
DECT wireless option.  

 

Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make front 
office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key system 
soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have been using. 
 Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t fit the switchhook 
of the sip phones.  

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Butch Evans]

On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 05:04 +, Christopher Gray wrote:
> I've heard decent things about the Grandstream DECT phones, but all
> 2nd hand and never tried them. Anyone have experience with those?
> 
> A Wired Phone Question:
> I use mostly Linksys / Cisco wired with good results (good sound
> quality, good handsets). How does Polycom compare to the standard
> Cisco units?

I have used Polycom since I first started using VoIP.  Only my very
first couple of experimental phones were something else.  I still have
(and use) one of my very first Polycom phones.  They are very solid and
don't feel like a toy, as many phones do.  The speaker phones are very
good and they have support for headsets (I think all models do) built
in.  I don't really like Polycom's conference phone, but that is more
because of the way it looks rather than it's functionality.


-- 
Butch Evans
Training and Support for WISPs
702-537-0979
http://store.wispgear.net/
http://www.butchevans.com/

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[can...@believewireless.net]

We use a ton of Grandstream phones and like them. The Polycoms are
excellent but pricey to most small
business budgets.

As far as using the Grandstream UCMs, I'd recommend just getting a used PC
and putting Asterisk on it.
UCMs lack a lot of features customers want but for a basic system, it's
fine. Plus, Grandstreams support
here hasn't been the greatest. We couldn't get an IAX truck to work for a
customer and couldn't figure
out why. After some e-mails to support they acknowledged it was broken and
no time was given for the
fix.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Butch Evans  wrote:

> On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 05:04 +, Christopher Gray wrote:
> > I've heard decent things about the Grandstream DECT phones, but all
> > 2nd hand and never tried them. Anyone have experience with those?
> >
> > A Wired Phone Question:
> > I use mostly Linksys / Cisco wired with good results (good sound
> > quality, good handsets). How does Polycom compare to the standard
> > Cisco units?
>
> I have used Polycom since I first started using VoIP.  Only my very
> first couple of experimental phones were something else.  I still have
> (and use) one of my very first Polycom phones.  They are very solid and
> don't feel like a toy, as many phones do.  The speaker phones are very
> good and they have support for headsets (I think all models do) built
> in.  I don't really like Polycom's conference phone, but that is more
> because of the way it looks rather than it's functionality.
>
>
> --
> Butch Evans
> Training and Support for WISPs
> 702-537-0979
> http://store.wispgear.net/
> http://www.butchevans.com/
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Jon Auer]

+1. We're using the Yealink T4-series phones. Our office is all T46G &
T48G. We went from Cisco 7940s and these are a world of difference (for the
better), both in voice quality and tolerance/interop for NAT.

I personally prefer the T41P/T42P as the 46 & 48 have a slight digit input
lag that bugs me.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Take a look at the higher end Yealink phones.
> On Jan 25, 2016 11:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
>> doesn’t like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They
>> also want a DECT wireless option.
>>
>> Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
>> front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key
>> system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have
>> been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t
>> fit the switchhook of the sip phones.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Eric Kuhnke]

I still have a SIP-T28P (B screen) on my desk and am perfectly happy with
it.

For "budget" office setups on a tight budget you can occasionally find
large numbers of the smaller screen B phones on eBay in good condition.
Last year I bought eight SIP-T22P for $41 a piece with AC power adapter for
an NGO with very limited funds.

If you get a yealink phone without the power adapter and can't do 802.3af
for whatever reason, the older B phones all run on 5VDC 1A adapters with
a normal sized barrel plug, which you can buy for very cheap.



On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Jon Auer  wrote:

> +1. We're using the Yealink T4-series phones. Our office is all T46G &
> T48G. We went from Cisco 7940s and these are a world of difference (for the
> better), both in voice quality and tolerance/interop for NAT.
>
> I personally prefer the T41P/T42P as the 46 & 48 have a slight digit input
> lag that bugs me.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
>
>> Take a look at the higher end Yealink phones.
>> On Jan 25, 2016 11:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
>>> doesn’t like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They
>>> also want a DECT wireless option.
>>>
>>> Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
>>> front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key
>>> system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have
>>> been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t
>>> fit the switchhook of the sip phones.
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Lewis Bergman]

We purchased or Cisco equipment refurbished from Ray Hoffman at Rhfive.
They always looked almost brand new and were at a great price.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 5:50 AM Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:

> Polycom are very solid phones … I’d put them “head to head” with the Cisco
> phones (the non Linksys branded ones) … different price bracket than the
> Grandstream/Linksys etc phones but the quality (look and feel) is quite
> noticeably different in my opinion too ..
>
>
>
> Are they worth the difference?I’d say “it depends” … I used to have
> Snom and then Aastra phones in my home and they worked ok – eventually they
> died off (3-4 years) and I went to Polycom .. couple of more years and I’ll
> be more confident in saying they were worth the price (almost double if I
> recall)… YMMV..
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher Gray
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:04 AM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones
>
>
>
> I've heard decent things about the Grandstream DECT phones, but all 2nd
> hand and never tried them. Anyone have experience with those?
>
>
>
> A Wired Phone Question:
>
> I use mostly Linksys / Cisco wired with good results (good sound quality,
> good handsets). How does Polycom compare to the standard Cisco units?
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
> doesn’t like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They
> also want a DECT wireless option.
>
>
>
> Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
> front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key
> system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have
> been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t
> fit the switchhook of the sip phones.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Christopher Gray]

I've heard decent things about the Grandstream DECT phones, but all 2nd
hand and never tried them. Anyone have experience with those?

A Wired Phone Question:
I use mostly Linksys / Cisco wired with good results (good sound quality,
good handsets). How does Polycom compare to the standard Cisco units?

--

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
> doesn’t like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They
> also want a DECT wireless option.
>
> Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
> front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key
> system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have
> been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t
> fit the switchhook of the sip phones.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Chuck McCown]

Very old news... (still a shareholder)

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:53 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Whoa   hold the phone!  What happened to Beehive Telephone Company et al?  Are 
you and Pencey no longer one? 

On Jan 25, 2016 12:47 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that doesn’t 
like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also want a 
DECT wireless option.  

  Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make 
front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key 
system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have been 
using.  Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t fit the 
switchhook of the sip phones.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Nate Burke]

What issues did you have with the 6104?  Were you using analog trunk 
lines?  I haven't done any yet that weren't sip, but I have one coming up.


On 1/25/2016 2:06 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

6104 is the model we had issues with. I deployed 2160's and 2140's.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

I've been very happy with the Grandstream phones  2140 and 2160.  I really
like that the 2160 has the sidecar built in, no need to add anything extra.
Only have had 1 failure so far.  Phone had the display go out.  RMA'd
without an issue.  While finding a hefty piece of wood to knock on, I
haven't had any stability issues with the 6104.  Started deploying them
about a year and a half ago. Price is definitely good too.

On 1/25/2016 1:56 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Man, the Greandstream UCM platform is *pretty darn good*, but I had
some stability issues on the 6104. I really want to like it and for it
to work, but it has some quirks. It's stupid easy to use, and sitll
lets you drop down and debug asterisk directly.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

I recently did an install replacing an old Toshiba PBX and used
Grandstream
phones, but it was also using a Grandstream PBX (UCM) which had the
advantage of zero touch config.  Not sure if you are configuring the
phones
via TFTP or manually.

For this customer we did put in one of the Grandstream DECT phones
(DP715)
and it worked fine.  Haven�t tried adding more DECT handsets to the
base
yet, but is supposed to work.

What is it they like about the Panasonic phones?


From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
doesn�t
like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also
want a
DECT wireless option.

Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic
key
system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they
have
been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don�t work and they
don�t fit
the switchhook of the sip phones.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Ken Hohhof]

I recently did an install replacing an old Toshiba PBX and used Grandstream 
phones, but it was also using a Grandstream PBX (UCM) which had the advantage 
of zero touch config.  Not sure if you are configuring the phones via TFTP or 
manually.

For this customer we did put in one of the Grandstream DECT phones (DP715) and 
it worked fine.  Haven’t tried adding more DECT handsets to the base yet, but 
is supposed to work.

What is it they like about the Panasonic phones?


From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that doesn’t 
like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also want a 
DECT wireless option.  

Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make front 
office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key system 
soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have been using. 
 Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t fit the switchhook 
of the sip phones.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

We use(d) them, Im partial to the Fortinet ones (rebranded 3com I believe)
pana anything always has a proprietary blend

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Our VOIP provider pushes these.  Few people in our office building have
> started using them.  Seems to work pretty well with Broadsoft.
>
> I'm still stuck on my Cisco 7960.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
>> doesn’t like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They
>> also want a DECT wireless option.
>>
>> Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
>> front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key
>> system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have
>> been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t
>> fit the switchhook of the sip phones.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Jaime Solorza]

Whoa   hold the phone!  What happened to Beehive Telephone Company et al?
Are you and Pencey no longer one?
On Jan 25, 2016 12:47 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
> doesn’t like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They
> also want a DECT wireless option.
>
> Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
> front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key
> system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have
> been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t
> fit the switchhook of the sip phones.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Josh Reynolds]

Yes, 4 FXO's :/

Random crashes/reboots of the unit after a certain firmware. Don't
remember the version. This was between 6-12 months ago.

Also had quite an echo problem on the FXO's that we couldn't resolve,
despite changing volume settings and other things (codecs, etc). Other
users reported the same FXO issues and grandstream never responded
other than going through the normal troubleshooting steps. It was
reproducable.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
> What issues did you have with the 6104?  Were you using analog trunk lines?
> I haven't done any yet that weren't sip, but I have one coming up.
>
> On 1/25/2016 2:06 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> 6104 is the model we had issues with. I deployed 2160's and 2140's.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been very happy with the Grandstream phones  2140 and 2160.  I
>>> really
>>> like that the 2160 has the sidecar built in, no need to add anything
>>> extra.
>>> Only have had 1 failure so far.  Phone had the display go out.  RMA'd
>>> without an issue.  While finding a hefty piece of wood to knock on, I
>>> haven't had any stability issues with the 6104.  Started deploying them
>>> about a year and a half ago. Price is definitely good too.
>>>
>>> On 1/25/2016 1:56 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Man, the Greandstream UCM platform is *pretty darn good*, but I had
>>>> some stability issues on the 6104. I really want to like it and for it
>>>> to work, but it has some quirks. It's stupid easy to use, and sitll
>>>> lets you drop down and debug asterisk directly.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently did an install replacing an old Toshiba PBX and used
>>>>> Grandstream
>>>>> phones, but it was also using a Grandstream PBX (UCM) which had the
>>>>> advantage of zero touch config.  Not sure if you are configuring the
>>>>> phones
>>>>> via TFTP or manually.
>>>>>
>>>>> For this customer we did put in one of the Grandstream DECT phones
>>>>> (DP715)
>>>>> and it worked fine.  Haven�t tried adding more DECT handsets to the
>>>>> base
>>>>> yet, but is supposed to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is it they like about the Panasonic phones?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Chuck McCown
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:47 PM
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
>>>>> doesn�t
>>>>> like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also
>>>>> want a
>>>>> DECT wireless option.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to
>>>>> make
>>>>> front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic
>>>>> key
>>>>> system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they
>>>>> have
>>>>> been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don�t work and they
>>>>> don�t fit
>>>>> the switchhook of the sip phones.
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Nate Burke]

Good to know, I was going to use a 6104 to replace an analog system, 
maybe I'll look harder at moving it to SIP.


On 1/25/2016 2:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Yes, 4 FXO's :/

Random crashes/reboots of the unit after a certain firmware. Don't
remember the version. This was between 6-12 months ago.

Also had quite an echo problem on the FXO's that we couldn't resolve,
despite changing volume settings and other things (codecs, etc). Other
users reported the same FXO issues and grandstream never responded
other than going through the normal troubleshooting steps. It was
reproducable.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

What issues did you have with the 6104?  Were you using analog trunk lines?
I haven't done any yet that weren't sip, but I have one coming up.

On 1/25/2016 2:06 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

6104 is the model we had issues with. I deployed 2160's and 2140's.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

I've been very happy with the Grandstream phones  2140 and 2160.  I
really
like that the 2160 has the sidecar built in, no need to add anything
extra.
Only have had 1 failure so far.  Phone had the display go out.  RMA'd
without an issue.  While finding a hefty piece of wood to knock on, I
haven't had any stability issues with the 6104.  Started deploying them
about a year and a half ago. Price is definitely good too.

On 1/25/2016 1:56 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Man, the Greandstream UCM platform is *pretty darn good*, but I had
some stability issues on the 6104. I really want to like it and for it
to work, but it has some quirks. It's stupid easy to use, and sitll
lets you drop down and debug asterisk directly.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

I recently did an install replacing an old Toshiba PBX and used
Grandstream
phones, but it was also using a Grandstream PBX (UCM) which had the
advantage of zero touch config.  Not sure if you are configuring the
phones
via TFTP or manually.

For this customer we did put in one of the Grandstream DECT phones
(DP715)
and it worked fine.  Haven�t tried adding more DECT handsets to the
base
yet, but is supposed to work.

What is it they like about the Panasonic phones?


From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
doesn�t
like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also
want a
DECT wireless option.

Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to
make
front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic
key
system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they
have
been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don�t work and they
don�t fit
the switchhook of the sip phones.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Chuck McCown]

Anybody know of a BLF app that will run on their desktop?

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

What does the grandstream pbx cost?  Running asterisk now.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

I recently did an install replacing an old Toshiba PBX and used Grandstream 
phones, but it was also using a Grandstream PBX (UCM) which had the advantage 
of zero touch config.  Not sure if you are configuring the phones via TFTP or 
manually.

For this customer we did put in one of the Grandstream DECT phones (DP715) and 
it worked fine.  Haven’t tried adding more DECT handsets to the base yet, but 
is supposed to work.

What is it they like about the Panasonic phones?


From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that doesn’t 
like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also want a 
DECT wireless option.  

Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make front 
office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key system 
soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have been using. 
 Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t fit the switchhook 
of the sip phones.  

[AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Chuck McCown]

Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that doesn’t 
like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also want a 
DECT wireless option.  

Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make front 
office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key system 
soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have been using. 
 Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t fit the switchhook 
of the sip phones.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Josh Reynolds]

Man, the Greandstream UCM platform is *pretty darn good*, but I had
some stability issues on the 6104. I really want to like it and for it
to work, but it has some quirks. It's stupid easy to use, and sitll
lets you drop down and debug asterisk directly.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> I recently did an install replacing an old Toshiba PBX and used Grandstream
> phones, but it was also using a Grandstream PBX (UCM) which had the
> advantage of zero touch config.  Not sure if you are configuring the phones
> via TFTP or manually.
>
> For this customer we did put in one of the Grandstream DECT phones (DP715)
> and it worked fine.  Haven’t tried adding more DECT handsets to the base
> yet, but is supposed to work.
>
> What is it they like about the Panasonic phones?
>
>
> From: Chuck McCown
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:47 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones
>
> Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that doesn’t
> like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also want a
> DECT wireless option.
>
> Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
> front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key
> system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have
> been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t fit
> the switchhook of the sip phones.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Chuck McCown]

What does the grandstream pbx cost?  Running asterisk now.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

I recently did an install replacing an old Toshiba PBX and used Grandstream 
phones, but it was also using a Grandstream PBX (UCM) which had the advantage 
of zero touch config.  Not sure if you are configuring the phones via TFTP or 
manually.

For this customer we did put in one of the Grandstream DECT phones (DP715) and 
it worked fine.  Haven’t tried adding more DECT handsets to the base yet, but 
is supposed to work.

What is it they like about the Panasonic phones?


From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that doesn’t 
like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also want a 
DECT wireless option.  

Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make front 
office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key system 
soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have been using. 
 Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t fit the switchhook 
of the sip phones.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Josh Reynolds]

6104 is the model we had issues with. I deployed 2160's and 2140's.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
> I've been very happy with the Grandstream phones  2140 and 2160.  I really
> like that the 2160 has the sidecar built in, no need to add anything extra.
> Only have had 1 failure so far.  Phone had the display go out.  RMA'd
> without an issue.  While finding a hefty piece of wood to knock on, I
> haven't had any stability issues with the 6104.  Started deploying them
> about a year and a half ago. Price is definitely good too.
>
> On 1/25/2016 1:56 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> Man, the Greandstream UCM platform is *pretty darn good*, but I had
>> some stability issues on the 6104. I really want to like it and for it
>> to work, but it has some quirks. It's stupid easy to use, and sitll
>> lets you drop down and debug asterisk directly.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I recently did an install replacing an old Toshiba PBX and used
>>> Grandstream
>>> phones, but it was also using a Grandstream PBX (UCM) which had the
>>> advantage of zero touch config.  Not sure if you are configuring the
>>> phones
>>> via TFTP or manually.
>>>
>>> For this customer we did put in one of the Grandstream DECT phones
>>> (DP715)
>>> and it worked fine.  Haven�t tried adding more DECT handsets to the
>>> base
>>> yet, but is supposed to work.
>>>
>>> What is it they like about the Panasonic phones?
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Chuck McCown
>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:47 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones
>>>
>>> Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
>>> doesn�t
>>> like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also
>>> want a
>>> DECT wireless option.
>>>
>>> Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
>>> front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic
>>> key
>>> system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they
>>> have
>>> been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don�t work and they
>>> don�t fit
>>> the switchhook of the sip phones.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Eric Kuhnke]

Take a look at the higher end Yealink phones.
On Jan 25, 2016 11:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
> doesn’t like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They
> also want a DECT wireless option.
>
> Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
> front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key
> system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have
> been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t
> fit the switchhook of the sip phones.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Josh Luthman]

Our VOIP provider pushes these.  Few people in our office building have
started using them.  Seems to work pretty well with Broadsoft.

I'm still stuck on my Cisco 7960.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that
> doesn’t like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They
> also want a DECT wireless option.
>
> Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
> front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key
> system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have
> been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don’t work and they don’t
> fit the switchhook of the sip phones.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

[Nate Burke]

I've been very happy with the Grandstream phones  2140 and 2160.  I 
really like that the 2160 has the sidecar built in, no need to add 
anything extra.  Only have had 1 failure so far.  Phone had the display 
go out.  RMA'd without an issue.  While finding a hefty piece of wood to 
knock on, I haven't had any stability issues with the 6104.  Started 
deploying them about a year and a half ago. Price is definitely good too.


On 1/25/2016 1:56 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Man, the Greandstream UCM platform is *pretty darn good*, but I had
some stability issues on the 6104. I really want to like it and for it
to work, but it has some quirks. It's stupid easy to use, and sitll
lets you drop down and debug asterisk directly.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

I recently did an install replacing an old Toshiba PBX and used Grandstream
phones, but it was also using a Grandstream PBX (UCM) which had the
advantage of zero touch config.  Not sure if you are configuring the phones
via TFTP or manually.

For this customer we did put in one of the Grandstream DECT phones (DP715)
and it worked fine.  Haven�t tried adding more DECT handsets to the base
yet, but is supposed to work.

What is it they like about the Panasonic phones?


From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones?  I have a business office that doesn�t
like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc.  They also want a
DECT wireless option.

Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make
front office folks happy.  We will be turning down their old panasonic key
system soon and I want to try to approximate the type of handset they have
been using.  Could just swap handsets but they don�t work and they don�t fit
the switchhook of the sip phones.