Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Lewis Bergman]

I thought that last one was the secret service not the merchant marines.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017, 2:25 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> The meaning of words.
> An oldie but goodie:
>
> If you give the command "SECURE THE BUILDING", here is what the different
> services would do:
>
> The NAVY would drain the fluids,  cover the windows with plywood,  give
> everything a lube job, spray fungicide,  put out the lights, disconnect the
> utilities and lock the doors.
>
> The ARMY would establish a perimeter, post a guard, surround the building
> with defensive fortifications, tanks, mines and concertina wire.
>
> The MARINE CORPS would assault the building, using overlapping fields of
> fire from all appropriate points on the perimeter.  Put explosive charges
> on all the doors and blow them off, sweep the building, and then level the
> building.
>
> The AIR FORCE would take out a three-year lease with an option to buy the
> building.
>
> The COAST GUARD would drop rescue swimmers on the roof, check for
> survivors and abandon the building.
>
> The MERCHANT MARINE would break into the building at night, black out the
> windows, import escorts and beer and have a party.
>
> Now which branch do you want to join young man?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:12 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> The Marines invented a forehead thickener. Great for bouncing bullets, but
> harder to get through to them.
>
> Also, the only word they now know is "kill". Everything translates to it.
>
>
> /s
>
> On Jan 12, 2017 2:00 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> I think I will invent a skin thickener.  Or did the Marine Corps already
> do that?
>
> From: That One Guy /sarcasm
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:58 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> im going to issue fatwas over the coming year. prepare yourselves. It is
> an outrage that my fatwas are considered any less valid than islamic
> leaders fatwas. You will all obey and abide. so let it be written, so let
> it be done
>
>
> in all seriousness though, the climate is such at this point it would
> simply be best that no one does anything, ever, under any circumstances.
> Look at the black caucus fist fight brewing with the republicans over the
> painting depicting cops as pigs, if that allowed to stay up then they
> should also require a painting depicting blacks as apes, women as servants,
> gays as perverted clowns, or whatever vile depiction of whatever subgroup
> you want to target. We should bulldoze everything into a single global flat
> surface around the planet, so no one has any more height than any other
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah Mr. White! You really do have a plan! Yeah science!
>
> From: Gino Villarini
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:23 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> The only  thing out of place is its name, I think is meant to be
> politically incorrect… Atheist do not believe in satan… the mission is good
> though… more science is always good!
>
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
> >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> From the news:
>
> Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house
> Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.
>
> The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students
> to think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around
> them, according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gino Villarini
>
> President  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Lewis Bergman]

They thickens my skin.  I don't think most would choose to have thick
skin.  Kind of like asking for patience I guess.  Nobody really wants the
process to get what they want, just the end result.

I would prefer that no religion be tax exempt.  I honestly believe that
when someone pays for something they have a right to have a say in how it
is done. The government, through its exemptions,  is paying a big part. I
would just rather not have them in the mix so they can't say their piece.

The government screws up nearly everything it gets oblast in and religion
is no exception. Besides,  religion does a done job of screwing up faith on
its own.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Jaime Solorza]

Great Steve Now FBI and CIA are going to monitor our lists cause you
used that word... Aye Dips what a maroon!!!

On Jan 12, 2017 12:59 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> im going to issue fatwas over the coming year. prepare yourselves. It is
> an outrage that my fatwas are considered any less valid than islamic
> leaders fatwas. You will all obey and abide. so let it be written, so let
> it be done
>
>
> in all seriousness though, the climate is such at this point it would
> simply be best that no one does anything, ever, under any circumstances.
> Look at the black caucus fist fight brewing with the republicans over the
> painting depicting cops as pigs, if that allowed to stay up then they
> should also require a painting depicting blacks as apes, women as servants,
> gays as perverted clowns, or whatever vile depiction of whatever subgroup
> you want to target. We should bulldoze everything into a single global flat
> surface around the planet, so no one has any more height than any other
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> *Yeah Mr. White! You really do have a plan! Yeah science!*
>>
>> *From:* Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:23 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>>
>> The only  thing out of place is its name, I think is meant to be
>> politically incorrect… Atheist do not believe in satan… the mission is good
>> though… more science is always good!
>>
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>>
>> From the news:
>>
>>  Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house
>> Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.
>>
>> The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students
>> to think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around
>> them, according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Jaime Solorza]

OK my turn..  Satan and science don't jibe Science is based on the
search for truth... Whether you choose to believe in science or not,
doesn't really matter... It holds out time and time again.Satan is the
opposite..   He is the great deceiver He lies out of his ass in most
books, religious or not,  99% of time.Except for a few utterances of
the glory he once had and saw now eternally gone,  he lies.  He gets all
the cool lines in Paradise Lost but they are lies... eg.   ",Arise, Awake,
 or forever be fallen... " as he orders his cast out buddies to wake up
after their sudden stop in hell floor.   They will be forever fallen.
 Zaz They should have named it different but just as provocative.

On Jan 12, 2017 10:42 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> The meaning of words.
> An oldie but goodie:
>
> If you give the command "SECURE THE BUILDING", here is what the different
> services would do:
>
> The NAVY would drain the fluids,  cover the windows with plywood,  give
> everything a lube job, spray fungicide,  put out the lights, disconnect the
> utilities and lock the doors.
>
> The ARMY would establish a perimeter, post a guard, surround the building
> with defensive fortifications, tanks, mines and concertina wire.
>
> The MARINE CORPS would assault the building, using overlapping fields of
> fire from all appropriate points on the perimeter.  Put explosive charges
> on all the doors and blow them off, sweep the building, and then level the
> building.
>
> The AIR FORCE would take out a three-year lease with an option to buy the
> building.
>
> The COAST GUARD would drop rescue swimmers on the roof, check for
> survivors and abandon the building.
>
> The MERCHANT MARINE would break into the building at night, black out the
> windows, import escorts and beer and have a party.
>
> Now which branch do you want to join young man?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:12 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> The Marines invented a forehead thickener. Great for bouncing bullets, but
> harder to get through to them.
>
> Also, the only word they now know is "kill". Everything translates to it.
>
>
> /s
>
> On Jan 12, 2017 2:00 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> I think I will invent a skin thickener.  Or did the Marine Corps already
> do that?
>
> From: That One Guy /sarcasm
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:58 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> im going to issue fatwas over the coming year. prepare yourselves. It is
> an outrage that my fatwas are considered any less valid than islamic
> leaders fatwas. You will all obey and abide. so let it be written, so let
> it be done
>
>
> in all seriousness though, the climate is such at this point it would
> simply be best that no one does anything, ever, under any circumstances.
> Look at the black caucus fist fight brewing with the republicans over the
> painting depicting cops as pigs, if that allowed to stay up then they
> should also require a painting depicting blacks as apes, women as servants,
> gays as perverted clowns, or whatever vile depiction of whatever subgroup
> you want to target. We should bulldoze everything into a single global flat
> surface around the planet, so no one has any more height than any other
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah Mr. White! You really do have a plan! Yeah science!
>
> From: Gino Villarini
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:23 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> The only  thing out of place is its name, I think is meant to be
> politically incorrect… Atheist do not believe in satan… the mission is good
> though… more science is always good!
>
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
> >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> From the news:
>
> Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house
> Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.
>
> The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students
> to think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around
> them, according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gino Villarini
>
> President  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Chuck McCown]

The meaning of words.
An oldie but goodie:

If you give the command "SECURE THE BUILDING", here is what the different 
services would do:

The NAVY would drain the fluids,  cover the windows with plywood,  give 
everything a lube job, spray fungicide,  put out the lights, disconnect the 
utilities and lock the doors.

The ARMY would establish a perimeter, post a guard, surround the building with 
defensive fortifications, tanks, mines and concertina wire.   

The MARINE CORPS would assault the building, using overlapping fields of fire 
from all appropriate points on the perimeter.  Put explosive charges on all the 
doors and blow them off, sweep the building, and then level the building.  

The AIR FORCE would take out a three-year lease with an option to buy the 
building.

The COAST GUARD would drop rescue swimmers on the roof, check for survivors and 
abandon the building.

The MERCHANT MARINE would break into the building at night, black out the 
windows, import escorts and beer and have a party.  

Now which branch do you want to join young man?






From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

The Marines invented a forehead thickener. Great for bouncing bullets, but 
harder to get through to them. 

Also, the only word they now know is "kill". Everything translates to it.


/s

On Jan 12, 2017 2:00 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

I think I will invent a skin thickener.  Or did the Marine Corps already do 
that?

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

im going to issue fatwas over the coming year. prepare yourselves. It is an 
outrage that my fatwas are considered any less valid than islamic leaders 
fatwas. You will all obey and abide. so let it be written, so let it be done 


in all seriousness though, the climate is such at this point it would simply be 
best that no one does anything, ever, under any circumstances. Look at the 
black caucus fist fight brewing with the republicans over the painting 
depicting cops as pigs, if that allowed to stay up then they should also 
require a painting depicting blacks as apes, women as servants, gays as 
perverted clowns, or whatever vile depiction of whatever subgroup you want to 
target. We should bulldoze everything into a single global flat surface around 
the planet, so no one has any more height than any other

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

Yeah Mr. White! You really do have a plan! Yeah science!

From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

The only  thing out of place is its name, I think is meant to be politically 
incorrect… Atheist do not believe in satan… the mission is good though… more 
science is always good! 


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

>From the news:

Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house Wednesday at 
Vista Elementary School.

The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students to 
think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around them, 
according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.









Gino Villarini

President  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 








-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Josh Reynolds]

The Marines invented a forehead thickener. Great for bouncing bullets, but
harder to get through to them.

Also, the only word they now know is "kill". Everything translates to it.


/s

On Jan 12, 2017 2:00 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I think I will invent a skin thickener.  Or did the Marine Corps already
> do that?
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:58 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> im going to issue fatwas over the coming year. prepare yourselves. It is
> an outrage that my fatwas are considered any less valid than islamic
> leaders fatwas. You will all obey and abide. so let it be written, so let
> it be done
>
>
> in all seriousness though, the climate is such at this point it would
> simply be best that no one does anything, ever, under any circumstances.
> Look at the black caucus fist fight brewing with the republicans over the
> painting depicting cops as pigs, if that allowed to stay up then they
> should also require a painting depicting blacks as apes, women as servants,
> gays as perverted clowns, or whatever vile depiction of whatever subgroup
> you want to target. We should bulldoze everything into a single global flat
> surface around the planet, so no one has any more height than any other
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> *Yeah Mr. White! You really do have a plan! Yeah science!*
>>
>> *From:* Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:23 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>>
>> The only  thing out of place is its name, I think is meant to be
>> politically incorrect… Atheist do not believe in satan… the mission is good
>> though… more science is always good!
>>
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>>
>> From the news:
>>
>>  Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house
>> Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.
>>
>> The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students
>> to think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around
>> them, according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Chuck McCown]

I think I will invent a skin thickener.  Or did the Marine Corps already do 
that?

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

im going to issue fatwas over the coming year. prepare yourselves. It is an 
outrage that my fatwas are considered any less valid than islamic leaders 
fatwas. You will all obey and abide. so let it be written, so let it be done 


in all seriousness though, the climate is such at this point it would simply be 
best that no one does anything, ever, under any circumstances. Look at the 
black caucus fist fight brewing with the republicans over the painting 
depicting cops as pigs, if that allowed to stay up then they should also 
require a painting depicting blacks as apes, women as servants, gays as 
perverted clowns, or whatever vile depiction of whatever subgroup you want to 
target. We should bulldoze everything into a single global flat surface around 
the planet, so no one has any more height than any other

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Yeah Mr. White! You really do have a plan! Yeah science!

  From: Gino Villarini 
  Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:23 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

  The only  thing out of place is its name, I think is meant to be politically 
incorrect… Atheist do not believe in satan… the mission is good though… more 
science is always good! 

  From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
  Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse


  From the news:
   Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house Wednesday 
at Vista Elementary School.

  The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students to 
think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around them, 
according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.




Gino Villarini
   
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 







-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

im going to issue fatwas over the coming year. prepare yourselves. It is an
outrage that my fatwas are considered any less valid than islamic leaders
fatwas. You will all obey and abide. so let it be written, so let it be done


in all seriousness though, the climate is such at this point it would
simply be best that no one does anything, ever, under any circumstances.
Look at the black caucus fist fight brewing with the republicans over the
painting depicting cops as pigs, if that allowed to stay up then they
should also require a painting depicting blacks as apes, women as servants,
gays as perverted clowns, or whatever vile depiction of whatever subgroup
you want to target. We should bulldoze everything into a single global flat
surface around the planet, so no one has any more height than any other

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> *Yeah Mr. White! You really do have a plan! Yeah science!*
>
> *From:* Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:23 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> The only  thing out of place is its name, I think is meant to be
> politically incorrect… Atheist do not believe in satan… the mission is good
> though… more science is always good!
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
> >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> From the news:
>
>  Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house
> Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.
>
> The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students
> to think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around
> them, according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Chuck McCown]

Yeah Mr. White! You really do have a plan! Yeah science!

From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

The only  thing out of place is its name, I think is meant to be politically 
incorrect… Atheist do not believe in satan… the mission is good though… more 
science is always good! 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse


>From the news:
 Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house Wednesday 
at Vista Elementary School.

The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students to 
think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around them, 
according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.



  Gino Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Gino Villarini]

The only  thing out of place is its name, I think is meant to be politically 
incorrect… Atheist do not believe in satan… the mission is good though… more 
science is always good!

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

From the news:

 Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house Wednesday 
at Vista Elementary School.

The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students to 
think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around them, 
according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.



Gino Villarini


President
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Chuck McCown]

1.  As previously discussed, the 10 commandments is the basis for most western 
legal doctrine.  I don’t think it is out of place in a venue where laws are 
made or adjudicated any more than a statue of Salk is appropriate at the NIH 
building.  

2.  If you are going to allow displays religious or otherwise, you gotta let 
everyone do it space permitting.
3.  Ditto.  If it turns into a circus, either stop doing invocations or limit 
them to 30 seconds.  

From: Zach Underwood 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

The Satan church would rather see more separation of church and state but since 
they can't remove the "Good New clubs" they set up their own clubs in hopes 
that school staff/parents would freak out and remove all clubs with a religious 
bent(like Boys Scouts "Good New clubs") 


There are people in the atheist community that call the Church of Satan trolls 
or  dinner theater atheist. 
Some examples of the Church of Satan.
1. saying if the 10 commandments was not removed from the Oklahoma that they 
was going to build a nine-foot statue of Baphomet right next to it.
2. placing displays next to nativity scene on gov't lands.
3. giving invocations at meetings where there have been christian invocations 
in the past.



On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Like to see if they attract any members.  

  Seems like there are two kinds of ‘Mericans

  1)The constitution says guvmnt is not sposed to interfere with churches 
and religions.  (Founded on religious freedom)
  or
  2)The constitution infers that Churches and religion are supposed to 
steer clear of all things public and politic.  

  I am of the former ilk.  
  Not too many inbetweeners on this issue in my opinion.  

  From: Zach Underwood 
  Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:36 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

  They only opened the club since the school has a club ran by the "Good News 
club"

  On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

So this is really a Trump club?

From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:32 AM
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  From the news:
   Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house 
Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.

  The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students 
to think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around 
them, according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.






  -- 

  Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) 
  My website

  advance-networking.com





-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) 
My website

advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Ken Hohhof]

Well, 2b is churches can be as political as they want, but not with tax exempt 
status.  (true of all non profits, religious or not)

 

And actually churches not being political means not directly supporting 
candidates or parties, they can (and do) take positions on government policies 
without jeopardizing their status as nonprofits.

 

Some congregations may want their church to be political, some may not.

 

Having once lived in Latin America, I observed (and I think much of the world 
is this way), that institutions like the church, the military, and universities 
are expected to have a role in the political process.  Universities typically 
represent the left, military the right.  I am not Catholic, but welcome input 
from the Pope, but consider it just that, input from someone with some moral 
authority.  Same with the Dali Lama, hey, I’ll listen.  All this can get 
carried away, like when you get Ayatollahs starting wars and issuing fatwas.  
And that takes us back to … The Great Satan.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

 

Like to see if they attract any members.  

 

Seems like there are two kinds of ‘Mericans

 

1)The constitution says guvmnt is not sposed to interfere with churches and 
religions.  (Founded on religious freedom)

or

2)The constitution infers that Churches and religion are supposed to steer 
clear of all things public and politic.  

 

I am of the former ilk.  

Not too many inbetweeners on this issue in my opinion.  

 

From: Zach Underwood 

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:36 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

 

They only opened the club since the school has a club ran by the "Good News 
club"

 

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

So this is really a Trump club?

 

From: Eric Kuhnke 

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:32 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan

 

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

>From the news:

 Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house Wednesday 
at Vista Elementary School.

The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students to 
think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around them, 
according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.

 





 

-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) 

My website <http://zachunderwood.me> 

advance-networking.com <http://advance-networking.com> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Zach Underwood]

The Satan church would rather see more separation of church and state but
since they can't remove the "Good New clubs" they set up their own clubs in
hopes that school staff/parents would freak out and remove all clubs with
a religious bent(like Boys Scouts "Good New clubs")

There are people in the atheist community that call the Church of Satan
trolls or  dinner theater atheist.
Some examples of the Church of Satan.
1. saying if the 10 commandments was not removed from the Oklahoma that
they was going to build a  nine-foot statue of Baphomet right next to it.
2. placing displays next to nativity scene on gov't lands.
3. giving invocations at meetings where there have been
christian invocations in the past.


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Like to see if they attract any members.
>
> Seems like there are two kinds of ‘Mericans
>
> 1)The constitution says guvmnt is not sposed to interfere with
> churches and religions.  (Founded on religious freedom)
> or
> 2)The constitution infers that Churches and religion are supposed to
> steer clear of all things public and politic.
>
> I am of the former ilk.
> Not too many inbetweeners on this issue in my opinion.
>
> *From:* Zach Underwood
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:36 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> They only opened the club since the school has a club ran by the "Good
> News club"
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> So this is really a Trump club?
>>
>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:32 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From the news:
>>>
>>>  Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house
>>> Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.
>>>
>>> The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students
>>> to think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around
>>> them, according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
> advance-networking.com
>



-- 
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Bill Prince]

Both of those are too simple for my taste, but I prefer #1 to #2 given 
only those two choices.


One of the interesting angles is people creating churches/religions for 
no reason other than tax avoidance. So the definition of a "church" or 
"religion" needs to be tightened up.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/12/2017 9:42 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Like to see if they attract any members.
Seems like there are two kinds of ‘Mericans
1)The constitution says guvmnt is not sposed to interfere with 
churches and religions.  (Founded on religious freedom)

or
2)The constitution infers that Churches and religion are supposed 
to steer clear of all things public and politic.

I am of the former ilk.
Not too many inbetweeners on this issue in my opinion.
*From:* Zach Underwood
*Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:36 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
They only opened the club since the school has a club ran by the "Good 
News club"

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

So this is really a Trump club?
*From:* Eric Kuhnke
*Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:32 AM
    *To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan>
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

From the news:

Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open
house Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.

The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12,
encourages students to think critically and have a scientific
understanding of the world around them, according to Chalice
Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.



--
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
advance-networking.com <http://advance-networking.com>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Chuck McCown]

Like to see if they attract any members.  

Seems like there are two kinds of ‘Mericans

1)The constitution says guvmnt is not sposed to interfere with churches and 
religions.  (Founded on religious freedom)
or
2)The constitution infers that Churches and religion are supposed to steer 
clear of all things public and politic.  

I am of the former ilk.  
Not too many inbetweeners on this issue in my opinion.  

From: Zach Underwood 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

They only opened the club since the school has a club ran by the "Good News 
club"

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  So this is really a Trump club?

  From: Eric Kuhnke 
  Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:32 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan


  On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

From the news:
 Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house 
Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.

The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students to 
think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around them, 
according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.






-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) 
My website

advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Zach Underwood]

They only opened the club since the school has a club ran by the "Good News
club"

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> So this is really a Trump club?
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:32 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> From the news:
>>
>>  Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house
>> Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.
>>
>> The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students
>> to think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around
>> them, according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.
>>
>
>



-- 
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Chuck McCown]

I wonder if Brad Pitt is their Pope.

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:34 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

Faustian

On Jan 12, 2017 10:32 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  So this is really a Trump club?

  From: Eric Kuhnke 
  Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:32 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan


  On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

From the news:
 Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house 
Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.

The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students to 
think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around them, 
according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Jaime Solorza]

Faustian

On Jan 12, 2017 10:32 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

So this is really a Trump club?

*From:* Eric Kuhnke
*Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:32 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> From the news:
>
>  Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house
> Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.
>
> The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students
> to think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around
> them, according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Chuck McCown]

All Hail Santa Santana
From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:31 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

Yikes

On Jan 12, 2017 10:29 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  From the news:
   Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house Wednesday 
at Vista Elementary School.

  The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students to 
think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around them, 
according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Chuck McCown]

So this is really a Trump club?

From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  From the news:
   Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house Wednesday 
at Vista Elementary School.

  The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students to 
think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around them, 
according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Eric Kuhnke]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> From the news:
>
>  Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house
> Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.
>
> The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students
> to think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around
> them, according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Jaime Solorza]

Yikes

On Jan 12, 2017 10:29 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> From the news:
>
>  Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house
> Wednesday at Vista Elementary School.
>
> The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students
> to think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around
> them, according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.
>

[AFMUG] OT Whadya mean Utah is not diverse

[Chuck McCown]

>From the news:
 Utah’s first After School Satan Club kicked off with an open house Wednesday 
at Vista Elementary School.

The club, for children between the ages of 5 and 12, encourages students to 
think critically and have a scientific understanding of the world around them, 
according to Chalice Blythe, Utah chapter head for The Satanic Temple.