subject:"Re\: \[AFMUG\] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS"

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-12 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

i actually upgraded most of ours (well, cyber land) a few nights ago...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jerry Head 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

  I just looked at mine, embarrassingly old at 6.1

  On 5/12/2016 12:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

It was not there in 6.19.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

I want to say earlier than that but I don't have anything older either.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

  I think that was added in 6.25 or so? The oldest I have on the network is 
6.27 and it's there. 

  On 5/12/2016 9:29 AM, Jerry Head wrote:

The Torch on my CCR does not look like that, no DSCP option at all.

On 5/11/2016 11:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

  Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch 

  and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks.

  You should see something like in the attached picture...

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

--

From: "Andreas Wiatowski" mailto:andr...@silowireless.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t 
seem to see anything in the interface.  I’m going to try a packet capture and 
view in Wireshark.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

__

Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

Email  andr...@silowireless.com

19 Sage Court

Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

Andreas,

Yes,  here is the logic

PBX should mark packets correctly  (RTP packets as well as SIP 
signaling... for packets going towards to the CPE).

Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to 
the PBX)

Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic 
flows well.

Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic 
flow then you have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic flows with 
priority.

Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS  marks and allocate priority 
accordingly... (check with your radio mfg / firmware version, config etc).

BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the 
MT, it is real time :)

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net

  From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

  Faisal,

  So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of 
layer2 or layer3?

  Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.

  Cheers,

  __

  Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

  Silo Wireless Inc.

  Email  andr...@silowireless.com

  19 Sage Court

  Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

  Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

  Hi Andreas,

  in our network, we handle this as follows:-

  1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP 
tags correctly.

  2) we make sure th

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-12 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

upgrade to 6.35.2 unless you have a specific reason ... 

The old version may be the cause of other issues too. 

Regards 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:11:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

> I just looked at mine, embarrassingly old at 6.1

> On 5/12/2016 12:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

>> It was not there in 6.19.
>> From: Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:50 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS
>> I want to say earlier than that but I don't have anything older either.
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, George Skorup < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote:

>>> I think that was added in 6.25 or so? The oldest I have on the network is 
>>> 6.27
>>> and it's there.

>>> On 5/12/2016 9:29 AM, Jerry Head wrote:

>>>> The Torch on my CCR does not look like that, no DSCP option at all.

>>>> On 5/11/2016 11:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

>>>>> Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch
>>>>> and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks.
>>>>> You should see something like in the attached picture...
>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>>>> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" mailto:andr...@silowireless.com
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

>>>>>> I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t seem to 
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> anything in the interface. I’m going to try a packet capture and view in
>>>>>> Wireshark.

>>>>>> Thanks for your input.

>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>> __

>>>>>> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

>>>>>> Silo Wireless Inc.

>>>>>> Email andr...@silowireless.com

>>>>>> 19 Sage Court

>>>>>> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

>>>>>> Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600 |Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free
>>>>>> +1.866.727.4138

>>>>>> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

>>>>>> Andreas,

>>>>>> Yes, here is the logic

>>>>>> PBX should mark packets correctly (RTP packets as well as SIP 
>>>>>> signaling... for
>>>>>> packets going towards to the CPE).

>>>>>> Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to the PBX)

>>>>>> Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic flows 
>>>>>> well.

>>>>>> Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic flow 
>>>>>> then you
>>>>>> have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic flows with priority.

>>>>>> Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS marks and allocate priority 
>>>>>> accordingly...
>>>>>> (check with your radio mfg / firmware version, config etc).

>>>>>> BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the MT, it 
>>>>>> is real
>>>>>> time :)

>>>>>> Regards

>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" < andr...@silowireless.com >
>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-12 Thread Jerry Head


I just looked at mine, embarrassingly old at 6.1

On 5/12/2016 12:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

It was not there in 6.19.
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:50 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS
I want to say earlier than that but I don't have anything older either.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com 
<mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:


I think that was added in 6.25 or so? The oldest I have on the
network is 6.27 and it's there.


On 5/12/2016 9:29 AM, Jerry Head wrote:

The Torch on my CCR does not look like that, no DSCP option at
all.

On 5/11/2016 11:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch
and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks.
You should see something like in the attached picture...
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


*From: *"Andreas Wiatowski" mailto:andr...@silowireless.com
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s…
can’t seem to see anything in the interface.  I’m going to
try a packet capture and view in Wireshark.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

__

Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

Email andr...@silowireless.com <mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>

19 Sage Court

Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600
<tel:%2B1.519.449.5656%C2%A0%20Extension-600>|Fax
+1.519.449.5536 <tel:%2B1.519.449.5536> |Toll Free
+1.866.727.4138 <tel:%2B1.866.727.4138>

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Faisal Imtiaz
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

Andreas,

Yes,  here is the logic

PBX should mark packets correctly  (RTP packets as well as
SIP signaling... for packets going towards to the CPE).

Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets
going to the PBX)

Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so
traffic flows well.

Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic
flow then you have to make sure that dscp/qos marked
traffic flows with priority.

Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS  marks and allocate
priority accordingly... (check with your radio mfg /
firmware version, config etc).

BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH
on the MT, it is real time :)

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>



*From: *"Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com
<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
    *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

Faisal,

So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless
of layer2 or layer3?

Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.

Cheers,

__

Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

Email andr...@silowireless.com
<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>

19 Sage Court

Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

Tel +1.519.449.5656 <tel:%2B1.519.449.5656>
Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536
<tel:%2B1.519.449.5536> |Toll Free +1.866.727.4138
<tel:%2B1.866.727.4138>

*From:*Af [mailto:

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-12 Thread Ken Hohhof

It was not there in 6.19.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

I want to say earlier than that but I don't have anything older either.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

  I think that was added in 6.25 or so? The oldest I have on the network is 
6.27 and it's there. 

  On 5/12/2016 9:29 AM, Jerry Head wrote:

The Torch on my CCR does not look like that, no DSCP option at all.

On 5/11/2016 11:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

  Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch 

  and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks.

  You should see something like in the attached picture...

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

--

From: "Andreas Wiatowski" mailto:andr...@silowireless.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t seem to 
see anything in the interface.  I’m going to try a packet capture and view in 
Wireshark.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

__

Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

Email  andr...@silowireless.com

19 Sage Court

Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

Andreas,

Yes,  here is the logic

PBX should mark packets correctly  (RTP packets as well as SIP 
signaling... for packets going towards to the CPE).

Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to the 
PBX)

Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic flows 
well.

Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic flow 
then you have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic flows with priority.

Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS  marks and allocate priority 
accordingly... (check with your radio mfg / firmware version, config etc).

BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the MT, 
it is real time :)

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

  From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

  Faisal,

  So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of layer2 or 
layer3?

  Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.

  Cheers,

  __

  Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

  Silo Wireless Inc.

  Email  andr...@silowireless.com

  19 Sage Court

  Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

  Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

  Hi Andreas,

  in our network, we handle this as follows:-

  1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP 
tags correctly.

  2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with DSCP 
tags correctly.

  3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware that 
respects the DSCP Tags, and provides them with appropriate priority

  4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we have 
to, the only thing we do on the customer router (Dmarc) is to  make sure that 
the dscp tags are correct.

  And this works very well for us.

  Regards. 

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-12 Thread Josh Luthman

I want to say earlier than that but I don't have anything older either.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> I think that was added in 6.25 or so? The oldest I have on the network is
> 6.27 and it's there.
>
>
> On 5/12/2016 9:29 AM, Jerry Head wrote:
>
> The Torch on my CCR does not look like that, no DSCP option at all.
>
> On 5/11/2016 11:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>
> Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch
>
> and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks.
>
> You should see something like in the attached picture...
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: <supp...@snappytelecom.net>
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
> <andr...@silowireless.com> <andr...@silowireless.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS
>
> I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t seem to
> see anything in the interface.  I’m going to try a packet capture and view
> in Wireshark.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> __
>
> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> Email  <andr...@silowireless.com>andr...@silowireless.com
>
> 19 Sage Court
>
> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
>
> Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free
> +1.866.727.4138
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [ <af-boun...@afmug.com>mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS
>
>
>
> Andreas,
>
>
>
> Yes,  here is the logic
>
>
>
> PBX should mark packets correctly  (RTP packets as well as SIP
> signaling... for packets going towards to the CPE).
>
> Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to the PBX)
>
>
>
> Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic flows
> well.
>
> Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic flow then
> you have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic flows with priority.
>
>
>
> Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS  marks and allocate priority
> accordingly... (check with your radio mfg / firmware version, config etc).
>
>
>
> BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the MT, it
> is real time :)
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: <supp...@snappytelecom.net>
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS
>
> Faisal,
>
>
>
> So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of layer2 or
> layer3?
>
>
>
> Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> __________
>
> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> Email  <andr...@silowireless.com>andr...@silowireless.com
>
> 19 Sage Court
>
> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
>
> Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free
> +1.866.727.4138
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [ <af-boun...@afmug.com>mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS
>
>
>
> Hi Andreas,
>
>
>
> in our network, we handle this as follows:-
>
>
>
> 1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP tags
> correctly.
>
> 2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with DSCP tags
> correctly.
>
> 3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware that
> respects the DSCP Tags, and provides them with appropriate priority
>
> 4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we have to,
> the on

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-12 Thread George Skorup

I think that was added in 6.25 or so? The oldest I have on the network 
is 6.27 and it's there.


On 5/12/2016 9:29 AM, Jerry Head wrote:

The Torch on my CCR does not look like that, no DSCP option at all.

On 5/11/2016 11:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch

and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks.

You should see something like in the attached picture...


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net



*From: *"Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t
seem to see anything in the interface.  I’m going to try a packet
capture and view in Wireshark.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

__

Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

Email andr...@silowireless.com

19 Sage Court

Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free
+1.866.727.4138

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

Andreas,

Yes,  here is the logic

PBX should mark packets correctly  (RTP packets as well as SIP
signaling... for packets going towards to the CPE).

Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to
the PBX)

Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic
flows well.

Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic
flow then you have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic
flows with priority.

Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS  marks and allocate priority
accordingly... (check with your radio mfg / firmware version,
config etc).

BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the
MT, it is real time :)

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>supp...@snappytelecom.net



*From: *"Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com
<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

Faisal,

So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of
layer2 or layer3?

Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.

Cheers,

__

Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

Email andr...@silowireless.com

19 Sage Court

Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll
Free +1.866.727.4138

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal
Imtiaz
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

Hi Andreas,

in our network, we handle this as follows:-

1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the
DSCP tags correctly.

2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets
with DSCP tags correctly.

3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware
that respects the DSCP Tags, and provides them with
appropriate priority

4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if
we have to, the only thing we do on the customer router
(Dmarc) is to  make sure that the dscp tags are correct.

And this works very well for us.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>



*From: *"Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com
<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:39:36 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-12 Thread Jerry Head


The Torch on my CCR does not look like that, no DSCP option at all.

On 5/11/2016 11:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch

and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks.

You should see something like in the attached picture...


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net



*From: *"Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t
seem to see anything in the interface.  I’m going to try a packet
capture and view in Wireshark.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

__

Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

Email andr...@silowireless.com

19 Sage Court

Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free
+1.866.727.4138

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

Andreas,

Yes,  here is the logic

PBX should mark packets correctly  (RTP packets as well as SIP
signaling... for packets going towards to the CPE).

Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to
the PBX)

Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic
flows well.

Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic
flow then you have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic
flows with priority.

Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS  marks and allocate priority
accordingly... (check with your radio mfg / firmware version,
config etc).

BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the
MT, it is real time :)

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>



*From: *"Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com
<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

Faisal,

So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of
layer2 or layer3?

Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.

Cheers,

__

Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

Email andr...@silowireless.com <mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>

19 Sage Court

Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll
Free +1.866.727.4138

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal
Imtiaz
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

Hi Andreas,

in our network, we handle this as follows:-

1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the
DSCP tags correctly.

2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets
with DSCP tags correctly.

3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware
that respects the DSCP Tags, and provides them with
appropriate priority

4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we
have to, the only thing we do on the customer router (Dmarc)
is to  make sure that the dscp tags are correct.

And this works very well for us.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>



*From: *"Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com
<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:39:36 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

Hello All!

We hav

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch 

and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks. 

You should see something like in the attached picture... 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

> I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t seem to see
> anything in the interface. I’m going to try a packet capture and view in
> Wireshark.

> Thanks for your input.

> Cheers,

> __

> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

> Silo Wireless Inc.

> Email andr...@silowireless.com

> 19 Sage Court

> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

> Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
> +1.866.727.4138

> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

> Andreas,

> Yes, here is the logic

> PBX should mark packets correctly (RTP packets as well as SIP signaling... for
> packets going towards to the CPE).

> Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to the PBX)

> Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic flows well.

> Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic flow then you
> have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic flows with priority.

> Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS marks and allocate priority accordingly...
> (check with your radio mfg / firmware version, config etc).

> BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the MT, it is 
> real
> time :)

> Regards

> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" < andr...@silowireless.com >
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS
>> Faisal,

>> So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of layer2 or layer3?

>> Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.

>> Cheers,

>> __

>> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

>> Silo Wireless Inc.

>> Email andr...@silowireless.com

>> 19 Sage Court

>> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

>> Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
>> +1.866.727.4138

>> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

>> Hi Andreas,

>> in our network, we handle this as follows:-

>> 1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP tags
>> correctly.

>> 2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with DSCP tags
>> correctly.

>> 3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware that respects 
>> the
>> DSCP Tags, and provides them with appropriate priority

>> 4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we have to, the 
>> only
>> thing we do on the customer router (Dmarc) is to make sure that the dscp tags
>> are correct.

>> And this works very well for us.

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" < andr...@silowireless.com >
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:39:36 AM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS
>>> Hello All!

>>> We have about 90 sites primarily with CCR’s of various flavours. We have 
>>> yet to
>>> implement any type of QOS for our VOIP..but we are starting to feel some
>>> quality pain with a couple of our “ON NET” PBX/SIP products.

>>> I have been reading about using mangle rules to mark connections and then
>>> packets, then setting up a QUEUE tree in MT where the packet marks are
>>> prioritized. We are fully routed with no layer 2 / bridging. I’m wondering 
>>> if I
>>> can accomplish the same thing by just identifying the IP of my Multi-Tenant 
>>> PB

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-11 Thread Andreas Wiatowski

I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t seem to see 
anything in the interface.  I’m going to try a packet capture and view in 
Wireshark.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,
__
Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
Email  andr...@silowireless.com
19 Sage Court
Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

Andreas,

Yes,  here is the logic

PBX should mark packets correctly  (RTP packets as well as SIP signaling... for 
packets going towards to the CPE).
Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to the PBX)

Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic flows well.
Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic flow then you 
have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic flows with priority.

Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS  marks and allocate priority accordingly... 
(check with your radio mfg / firmware version, config etc).

BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the MT, it is 
real time :)

Regards


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Andreas Wiatowski" 
<andr...@silowireless.com<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS
Faisal,

So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of layer2 or layer3?

Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.

Cheers,
__
Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
Email  andr...@silowireless.com<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>
19 Sage Court
Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

Hi Andreas,

in our network, we handle this as follows:-

1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP tags 
correctly.
2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with DSCP tags 
correctly.
3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware that respects the 
DSCP Tags, and provides them with appropriate priority
4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we have to, the 
only thing we do on the customer router (Dmarc) is to  make sure that the dscp 
tags are correct.

And this works very well for us.


Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Andreas Wiatowski" 
<andr...@silowireless.com<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:39:36 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS
Hello All!

We have about 90 sites primarily with CCR’s of various flavours.  We have yet 
to implement any type of QOS for our VOIP..but we are starting to feel some 
quality pain with a couple of our “ON NET” PBX/SIP products.

I have been reading about using mangle rules to mark connections and then 
packets, then setting up a QUEUE tree in MT where the packet marks are 
prioritized.  We are fully routed with no layer 2 / bridging.  I’m wondering if 
I can accomplish the same thing by just identifying the IP of my Multi-Tenant 
PBX box and any traffic moving to and from…and prioritizing it as 1.  Secondly, 
do I have to do this on every single router on my network?

OR Is it a better practice to IDENTIFY DCSP or TOS, mark and prioritize that 
instead.  Just looking for the best way to unify this across my network.

Anyone have examples?  Many of the examples I have seen really relate to SOHO 
type situations…. We are talking much larger here.  Most of my transport is 
200Mbps to 10Gbps between sites.

Cheers,



Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
519-449-5656 x-600

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

Andreas, 

Yes, here is the logic 

PBX should mark packets correctly (RTP packets as well as SIP signaling... for 
packets going towards to the CPE). 
Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to the PBX) 

Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic flows well. 
Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic flow then you 
have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic flows with priority. 

Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS marks and allocate priority accordingly... 
(check with your radio mfg / firmware version, config etc). 

BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the MT, it is 
real time :) 

Regards 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

> Faisal,

> So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of layer2 or layer3?

> Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.

> Cheers,

> __

> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

> Silo Wireless Inc.

> Email andr...@silowireless.com

> 19 Sage Court

> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

> Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
> +1.866.727.4138

> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

> Hi Andreas,

> in our network, we handle this as follows:-

> 1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP tags
> correctly.

> 2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with DSCP tags
> correctly.

> 3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware that respects 
> the
> DSCP Tags, and provides them with appropriate priority

> 4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we have to, the 
> only
> thing we do on the customer router (Dmarc) is to make sure that the dscp tags
> are correct.

> And this works very well for us.

> Regards.

> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" < andr...@silowireless.com >
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:39:36 AM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS
>> Hello All!

>> We have about 90 sites primarily with CCR’s of various flavours. We have yet 
>> to
>> implement any type of QOS for our VOIP..but we are starting to feel some
>> quality pain with a couple of our “ON NET” PBX/SIP products.

>> I have been reading about using mangle rules to mark connections and then
>> packets, then setting up a QUEUE tree in MT where the packet marks are
>> prioritized. We are fully routed with no layer 2 / bridging. I’m wondering 
>> if I
>> can accomplish the same thing by just identifying the IP of my Multi-Tenant 
>> PBX
>> box and any traffic moving to and from…and prioritizing it as 1. Secondly, 
>> do I
>> have to do this on every single router on my network?

>> OR Is it a better practice to IDENTIFY DCSP or TOS, mark and prioritize that
>> instead. Just looking for the best way to unify this across my network.

>> Anyone have examples? Many of the examples I have seen really relate to SOHO
>> type situations…. We are talking much larger here. Most of my transport is
>> 200Mbps to 10Gbps between sites.

>> Cheers,

>> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

>> Silo Wireless Inc.

>> 519-449-5656 x-600

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-11 Thread Andreas Wiatowski

Faisal,

So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of layer2 or layer3?

Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.

Cheers,
__
Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
Email  andr...@silowireless.com
19 Sage Court
Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

Hi Andreas,

in our network, we handle this as follows:-

1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP tags 
correctly.
2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with DSCP tags 
correctly.
3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware that respects the 
DSCP Tags, and provides them with appropriate priority
4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we have to, the 
only thing we do on the customer router (Dmarc) is to  make sure that the dscp 
tags are correct.

And this works very well for us.


Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Andreas Wiatowski" 
<andr...@silowireless.com<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:39:36 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS
Hello All!

We have about 90 sites primarily with CCR’s of various flavours.  We have yet 
to implement any type of QOS for our VOIP..but we are starting to feel some 
quality pain with a couple of our “ON NET” PBX/SIP products.

I have been reading about using mangle rules to mark connections and then 
packets, then setting up a QUEUE tree in MT where the packet marks are 
prioritized.  We are fully routed with no layer 2 / bridging.  I’m wondering if 
I can accomplish the same thing by just identifying the IP of my Multi-Tenant 
PBX box and any traffic moving to and from…and prioritizing it as 1.  Secondly, 
do I have to do this on every single router on my network?

OR Is it a better practice to IDENTIFY DCSP or TOS, mark and prioritize that 
instead.  Just looking for the best way to unify this across my network.

Anyone have examples?  Many of the examples I have seen really relate to SOHO 
type situations…. We are talking much larger here.  Most of my transport is 
200Mbps to 10Gbps between sites.

Cheers,


Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
519-449-5656 x-600

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

Hi Andreas, 

in our network, we handle this as follows:- 

1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP tags 
correctly. 
2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with DSCP tags 
correctly. 
3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware that respects the 
DSCP Tags, and provides them with appropriate priority 
4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we have to, the 
only thing we do on the customer router (Dmarc) is to make sure that the dscp 
tags are correct. 

And this works very well for us. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:39:36 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

> Hello All!

> We have about 90 sites primarily with CCR’s of various flavours. We have yet 
> to
> implement any type of QOS for our VOIP..but we are starting to feel some
> quality pain with a couple of our “ON NET” PBX/SIP products.

> I have been reading about using mangle rules to mark connections and then
> packets, then setting up a QUEUE tree in MT where the packet marks are
> prioritized. We are fully routed with no layer 2 / bridging. I’m wondering if 
> I
> can accomplish the same thing by just identifying the IP of my Multi-Tenant 
> PBX
> box and any traffic moving to and from…and prioritizing it as 1. Secondly, do 
> I
> have to do this on every single router on my network?

> OR Is it a better practice to IDENTIFY DCSP or TOS, mark and prioritize that
> instead. Just looking for the best way to unify this across my network.

> Anyone have examples? Many of the examples I have seen really relate to SOHO
> type situations…. We are talking much larger here. Most of my transport is
> 200Mbps to 10Gbps between sites.

> Cheers,

> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
> Silo Wireless Inc.
> 519-449-5656 x-600

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